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Perfect Storm for Scherff

Coach G : 4/26/2015 1:53 pm
The way this draft sets up for me, in picks #9 and #40, one of them has to be a starting Offensive Lineman.

Below is a link to ALL New York Giants Draft Picks since 1936, on one scroll.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/nyg/draft.htm

The only linemen we have selected in the first two rounds since Chris Snee 2nd rd, 2004 are: Wichburg (2nd, 2014, Pugh (1st, 2013), & Beatty (2nd, 2009). In that same time since Snee we have selected: Guy Whimper (4th, 2006), Adam Koets (6th, 2007), Mitch Petrus (5th, 2010), James Brewer 4th, 2011), Brandon Mosley (4th) & Matt McCants (6th) 2012, and Eric Hermann (7th 2013). I call that “zero for 7”. past the 2nd rd.

Our weakness up the middle at LB & Safety is well documented. Our need for a JPP bookend to help this weakness in coverage, I agree with. But I have more faith in Ayers, Selvie, or Moore, stepping up with pressure, then I do in John Jerry or Dallas Reynolds this year against, Suh, Wilkerson, & Dareus, when we face the Dolphins, Jets, and Bills.

Coach Mason, had a great post a couple weeks back, on the virtues of Cooper, White, or Parker, joining our arsenal of receivers. Kiper (knock him if you want) has moved Perriman (UCF), into his top 10, along with the others, and Schreff is now #7.

Eric added a article about Cruz’s return could be our best acquisition, including quotes from doctors, of the odds against full recovery. I love Victor, I’m a Yankee, who married a beautiful woman from Venezuela. She couldn’t make me Salsa,…But Victor could, many a Sunday. I want to be wrong, but I fear a redux of our Steve Smith, of a few years ago, going from 100 plus catches to out of the league in 2 years, due to a leg injury. I fear our depth at WR, without him. I have lost faith in wRongway Reuben. I would have no problem with a WR at 9, but then we lose BPA at 40. IMO, we would be down to BPA OL at 40.

We all remember the Tyree Catch. But how often it is forgotten that on 4th, and 2 feet, Brandon, with arms wrapped around his ankles fell forward 2.5 feet, right up Snee’s ass, to keep the drive alive. We were so dismal at capitalizing on 3rd and 4th and short last year, we stopped trying.

9 is high for a probable guard, but, if Reese doesn’t love the WR sitting there, Give me the surest Offensive lineman, whether he is a Guard or not.

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He may be the pick  
K-Gun? Pop-Gun : 4/26/2015 1:59 pm : link
But not because they are playing the AFC East this year.

That would be incredibly shortsighted.
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Big Blue '56 : 4/26/2015 2:02 pm : link
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Coach Mason, had a great post a couple weeks back, on the virtues of Cooper, White, or Parker, joining our arsenal of receivers



Talking to yourself, Joe? :)

Why not just stick with one handle and own it?
Good post  
TampaGiant : 4/26/2015 2:29 pm : link
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Excellent post! Great information!  
John K : 4/26/2015 2:43 pm : link
I'm hoping for Scherff at #9 for all the reasons you outlined.
If Scherff is available  
Salty Meats : 4/26/2015 3:14 pm : link
At 9 and Reese passes on him he should be fired on the spot! I've had enough of this guys stupidity and lack of basic football knowledge. Your proto-typical empty suit.
RE: If Scherff is available  
Klaatu : 4/26/2015 3:52 pm : link
In comment 12250024 Salty Meats said:
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At 9 and Reese passes on him he should be fired on the spot! I've had enough of this guys stupidity and lack of basic football knowledge. Your proto-typical empty suit.


Here...have some cheese with your whine.

Good post  
TMS : 4/26/2015 4:18 pm : link
whoever you used to be and who gives a sh/t anyway. Keep them coming.
RE: .  
yatqb : 4/26/2015 5:24 pm : link
In comment 12249981 Big Blue '56 said:
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Coach Mason, had a great post a couple weeks back, on the virtues of Cooper, White, or Parker, joining our arsenal of receivers





Talking to yourself, Joe? :)

Why not just stick with one handle and own it?


Bruce, it's remarkable.
RE: Good post  
Big Blue '56 : 4/26/2015 5:27 pm : link
In comment 12250124 TMS said:
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whoever you used to be and who gives a sh/t anyway. Keep them coming.


You're 100% correct, save for this..When you state that a poster (Coach Mason) had a great post awhile ago on this and that Coach Mason is indeed YOU (Coach G), that is not cool..
Coach Mason is innocent.  
Coach G : 4/26/2015 5:52 pm : link
Hey fellas, I'm a life long Giant fan and Draftnik, who has read BBI for years, and decided to post today.My name is Gary, not Joe. I have a lot of young men out there who still call me Coach G, from my former basketball coaching days. It is the first handle that came to me. Thanks for some of the complimentary remarks on my post, but my apologies to whoever this Coach Mason is, who got drawn into this accusation.
I can't  
dorgan : 4/26/2015 5:54 pm : link
figure out why everyone wants to be a coach.

It doesn't pay shit, the hours are long and a good share of the time is spent outside in inclement weather.

If I ever make up a false ID I want to be a retired orthopedic living out west. Or a jockey.

I'm torn between the two.
Coach/Coach  
Torrag : 4/26/2015 5:55 pm : link
you have issues...time to get the prescription refilled...
RE: I can't  
K-Gun? Pop-Gun : 4/26/2015 5:58 pm : link
In comment 12250238 dorgan said:
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figure out why everyone wants to be a coach.

It doesn't pay shit, the hours are long and a good share of the time is spent outside in inclement weather.

If I ever make up a false ID I want to be a retired orthopedic living out west. Or a jockey.

I'm torn between the two.


Amen! Try coaching in Canada, where outside of University ball, it's all volunteer. Oh, and you're guaranteed one snowy practice or game in October.
Hey, dorgan...you could be an alien, like me!  
Klaatu : 4/26/2015 5:59 pm : link
I think you'd make an excellent Bolian:

I don't see one offensive lineman  
mrvax : 4/26/2015 6:47 pm : link
in this draft who is clearly worth the 9th pick in the draft. If the Giants take one at 9, it will be a reach and a shame.
I believe they will pick him  
averagejoe : 4/26/2015 7:29 pm : link
only if they believe he can play RT. If they see him as a guard they should select BPA and get a guard in a later round.
RE: I don't see one offensive lineman  
Giants2012 : 4/26/2015 7:34 pm : link
In comment 12250296 mrvax said:
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in this draft who is clearly worth the 9th pick in the draft. If the Giants take one at 9, it will be a reach and a shame.


Besides a WR, they might not be too many in this draft worth the #9 pick. Neither QB is a given either so take what you can get. OL might still be better at #9 than other positions.
RE: I don't see one offensive lineman  
Jimmy Googs : 4/26/2015 7:46 pm : link
In comment 12250296 mrvax said:
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in this draft who is clearly worth the 9th pick in the draft. If the Giants take one at 9, it will be a reach and a shame.


That's bold. And by the way, I like your conviction. Very difficult to compare BPA when you start measuring up lineman versus less than blue-chip position players like WRs and CBs.

Reese has shown thus weakness in the past so let's see if it continues or if he finds the right OL this year.
Well I do trust Reese will  
mrvax : 4/26/2015 8:17 pm : link
make the right call. They seemed to have improved starting in 2013.
pick him  
Mr. Nickels : 4/27/2015 12:00 am : link
to start at LG and next year when Beatty leaves either kick him over to LT if he is capable or Pugh and find another guard
Scherf may take until year 3 to be a tackle  
SGMen : 4/27/2015 12:13 am : link
i see him as a solid OG as a rookie and stud OG by his second year. With camp work and practice he could replace Pugh when his contract is up.
Collins from LSU is a superior player...  
GameFaceRadio : 4/27/2015 2:45 am : link
....who played against superior talent.

Just an opinion. I was on the Scherff bandwagon for a moment but the more I watch him, the better Collins looks.
I think Scherf is the pick if he is there  
UberAlias : 4/27/2015 7:45 am : link
But I suspect he will go a coupole picks ahead to Chicago.
I like Collins a lot as well.  
Jimmy Googs : 4/27/2015 8:13 am : link
Scherff would be my vote but the team getting Collins will not be cheated.

Flowers looks to need a good bit of time to be NFL ready.
RE: I don't see one offensive lineman  
Joe in CT : 4/27/2015 10:28 am : link
In comment 12250296 mrvax said:
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in this draft who is clearly worth the 9th pick in the draft. If the Giants take one at 9, it will be a reach and a shame.


I feel the same way about the tweener DE/OLB edge rushers, most not worthy of 9 except for one which is most likely going top 5.
I see 3 OL who I think would be worth going at 9  
jeff57 : 4/27/2015 10:47 am : link
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RE: Well I do trust Reese will  
TMS : 4/27/2015 2:48 pm : link
In comment 12250365 mrvax said:
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make the right call. They seemed to have improved starting in 2013.
---------- Hope you are right about that. Agree the last two drafts have been better. Unfortunitely the damage has been done
Dorgan: They don't want to be coaches. They want to be you.  
Big Blue Blogger : 4/27/2015 3:08 pm : link
That is, a respected member of the community whose opinions are read, valued and cited.

I see the proliferation of "Coach X" handles puffing each other as a tribute to you - albeit a sad and slightly creepy one.
I coached park and rec basketball this year  
BeerFridge : 4/27/2015 3:20 pm : link
Does that count?
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