Throwing elbows and getting ejected from playoff games. Looked like he was changing his act for awhile in Cleveland but apparently still a loose cannon.
Cleveland would get burned for relying at all on him. I hope they win today so that any JR suspensions impact the Chicago series instead. Factor in the Love injury, and they may not survive Chicago.
we'll see, they have a lot of draft picks. I believe they only need one guy; a dominant big man. They give up too many offensive rebounds. They do have a lot of good young talent.
we'll see, they have a lot of draft picks. I believe they only need one guy; a dominant big man. They give up too many offensive rebounds. They do have a lot of good young talent.
They only need one guy to do what exactly? They definitely have a lot of draft picks, but what "dominant" big man do you think they need? If you mean Anthony Davis, then sure that makes them a lot closer to a contender. If you mean Deandre Jordan, then no, not close.
The C's overachieved because they were coached AMAZINGLY, but don't let that overshoot the talent they have. They have a good amount of role players on a good team, but I'm not sure by the time the C's are really good more then 2 or 3 players on the team currently are playing a big role.
guys, Smart and Thomas, and a guy like Anthony Davis, as you point out, and they are contenders. They have 8 first round picks in the next few years. One or two great players have to fall in their laps. :)
guys, Smart and Thomas, and a guy like Anthony Davis, as you point out, and they are contenders. They have 8 first round picks in the next few years. One or two great players have to fall in their laps. :)
First off, Anthony Davis is the best player in the NBA(or close to it). He isn't just falling into someones lap.
Second off, a basketball team has a lot more then "5 guys", so I'm not sure if I can take anything else you say seriously.
Third off, a "core" of Thomas, Smart and even AD is not a contender. Thats not even a better core then what the Pelicans have RIGHT now with AD.
I said someone like him. and only 5 guys can start. Of course, one team needs a bench. I agree with some of what you say, but the Celtics do have some good players who need time. I believe one or two players will make them playoff contenders. How many players made the Spurs instant contenders? When they got Tim Duncan they were instant contenders.
is going to be massively overrated soon. I think he is just a 6th man on a good team. Smart has potential, long ways to go. Turner is a journeyman, they have about 5 backup bigs, forced to start 2.
You put Cousins on that team, and they are 4-5 seed at best.
I said someone like him. and only 5 guys can start. Of course, one team needs a bench. I agree with some of what you say, but the Celtics do have some good players who need time. I believe one or two players will make them playoff contenders. How many players made the Spurs instant contenders? When they got Tim Duncan they were instant contenders.
Again, AD is the best player in the NBA. Where are they getting someone "like" him?
And how is the current Celtics team any better then the current Pelicans team really?
As far as your last comment, yeah its not like when TD came on board he was playing with an all star, hall of fame, top 30 player of all time Center in David Robinson who averaged 21.6/10.6 and 2.6 blocks a game or anything. Oh wait he did?
I think he's very good, not great. He has excellent quickness. They have to rotate their guards. You make viable points, but nba is watered down, and a Cousins and draft choices will make them really good, I believe. The coach is fantastic. You agree?
Then season 5 a ton of injuries with Robinson being the worst of it led to 20 Ws and the #1 pick. After that and the lockout season they've had 50 Ws every season since the 49 in 92-93 (Crazy how long they've been great even in the west. THAT is a dynasty). Dont forget Pop came aboard around then too. TD is one of the greatest and a huge part but there was a solid foundation well before him.
Cs seem to have solid coaching, but low talent in spite of good potential in Sully, Smart, Thomas. But they are only in it being in the E. Not even close to any SA team of the last 20+, not that too many teams are.
I think he's very good, not great. He has excellent quickness. They have to rotate their guards. You make viable points, but nba is watered down, and a Cousins and draft choices will make them really good, I believe. The coach is fantastic. You agree?
Coach is fantastic for sure. No, Cousins and some picks doesn't make them a contender, and you cant get Cousins without giving up a lot of those picks anyway.
Celtics were a 40 win team in the East, without Cousins.
Kings were a 29 team in the West, with Cousins.
Celtics were 28-24 against the East and 12-18 vs the West.
I think he's very good, not great. He has excellent quickness. They have to rotate their guards. You make viable points, but nba is watered down, and a Cousins and draft choices will make them really good, I believe. The coach is fantastic. You agree?
Also the NBA is anything but watered down right now.
trust me, with the NBA watered down as it is, Cousins would make a huge difference. Stats can't show how they play well as a team. The Celts were a 29 win team, when Bird came, they got to 60 wins. :)
trust me, with the NBA watered down as it is, Cousins would make a huge difference. Stats can't show how they play well as a team. The Celts were a 29 win team, when Bird came, they got to 60 wins. :)
That Celtics team had THREE other HALL OF FAMERS. And Larry Bird is a top 7 player of all time. Your analogies are horrible. If your point is that if the Celtics get an immediate all time great, top 10 player in NBA history the celtics would be a lot better then sure. Name me a team that isn't true for in the entire NBA.
I'm not sure where you are finding this player though. Do they grow on trees or in mid first round draft picks?
I'm thinking the NBA now as compared to the 60s and 70s. Celtics were about 8 deep. Havlichek was the 6th man on a team with two HOF guards on the bench. The Lakers were (arguably) the 2nd best team, and they had 3 great players, but couldn't beat Boston in the finals. If you want, go into the 80s and the Lakers had 4 or 5 all stars and the Sixers were very deep too. Lebron (I'm taking my talents to Miami) went to Miami, with Wade they won a few titles, but I wouldn' t say they were deep.
rather than make them contenders. Being in the east sure they could get 50 Ws. But can they beat Atl Cle Chi? And in the west even those 3 fight an uphill battle vs the west's top 4-6. Even though DC's close to being a perennial all star / top 5-10 level player. Sure they'll beat poor playoff teams but that's not contending.
Yeah I'm not sure I understand "watered down." Talent level of teams in contention is thru the roof.
I'm thinking the NBA now as compared to the 60s and 70s. Celtics were about 8 deep. Havlichek was the 6th man on a team with two HOF guards on the bench. The Lakers were (arguably) the 2nd best team, and they had 3 great players, but couldn't beat Boston in the finals. If you want, go into the 80s and the Lakers had 4 or 5 all stars and the Sixers were very deep too. Lebron (I'm taking my talents to Miami) went to Miami, with Wade they won a few titles, but I wouldn' t say they were deep.
There were 8 teams then. It's a pointless comparison.
60s: 8-14 teams, not all the best talent played
70s: Weak NBA due to ABA taking a lot of talent
80s: Great East, Pathetic West... Lakers had no challenge until the Finals
NBA Peaked late 80s/mid 90s imo
late90s: Game really got ugly, expansion watered things down
00s: Awful East, Dominant West... Shaq vs. Duncan/Pop vs. annual challengers
10s: Weak East, Dominant West... much smarter game than ever before, talent pool is deeper than ever
The 3pt line revolution has changed the game but I'm liking the young stars in the league, I think the NBA is smarter than ever and it shows in the way the teams play.
wow! you know your shit. I was a big fan of the Russell Celtics, then the Cowens/Hondo teams, then the Bird/Mchale/Parraish, but got away from it due to all the fake flopping. Smarter/ perhaps, but the 3 pt shot and lack of willing defenders has changed the game. I admire guys like Tim Duncan, Smart, and Davis. Maybe I'll get interested again due to the Celtics youth/hustle.
Not even close. Celtics are multiple players away.
They only need one guy to do what exactly? They definitely have a lot of draft picks, but what "dominant" big man do you think they need? If you mean Anthony Davis, then sure that makes them a lot closer to a contender. If you mean Deandre Jordan, then no, not close.
The C's overachieved because they were coached AMAZINGLY, but don't let that overshoot the talent they have. They have a good amount of role players on a good team, but I'm not sure by the time the C's are really good more then 2 or 3 players on the team currently are playing a big role.
First off, Anthony Davis is the best player in the NBA(or close to it). He isn't just falling into someones lap.
Second off, a basketball team has a lot more then "5 guys", so I'm not sure if I can take anything else you say seriously.
Third off, a "core" of Thomas, Smart and even AD is not a contender. Thats not even a better core then what the Pelicans have RIGHT now with AD.
You put Cousins on that team, and they are 4-5 seed at best.
Again, AD is the best player in the NBA. Where are they getting someone "like" him?
And how is the current Celtics team any better then the current Pelicans team really?
As far as your last comment, yeah its not like when TD came on board he was playing with an all star, hall of fame, top 30 player of all time Center in David Robinson who averaged 21.6/10.6 and 2.6 blocks a game or anything. Oh wait he did?
Cs seem to have solid coaching, but low talent in spite of good potential in Sully, Smart, Thomas. But they are only in it being in the E. Not even close to any SA team of the last 20+, not that too many teams are.
Coach is fantastic for sure. No, Cousins and some picks doesn't make them a contender, and you cant get Cousins without giving up a lot of those picks anyway.
Celtics were a 40 win team in the East, without Cousins.
Kings were a 29 team in the West, with Cousins.
Celtics were 28-24 against the East and 12-18 vs the West.
Celtics need a lot more then just one guy.
Also the NBA is anything but watered down right now.
That Celtics team had THREE other HALL OF FAMERS. And Larry Bird is a top 7 player of all time. Your analogies are horrible. If your point is that if the Celtics get an immediate all time great, top 10 player in NBA history the celtics would be a lot better then sure. Name me a team that isn't true for in the entire NBA.
I'm not sure where you are finding this player though. Do they grow on trees or in mid first round draft picks?
And again, the NBA is not close to watered down.
Yeah I'm not sure I understand "watered down." Talent level of teams in contention is thru the roof.
There were 8 teams then. It's a pointless comparison.
70s: Weak NBA due to ABA taking a lot of talent
80s: Great East, Pathetic West... Lakers had no challenge until the Finals
NBA Peaked late 80s/mid 90s imo
late90s: Game really got ugly, expansion watered things down
00s: Awful East, Dominant West... Shaq vs. Duncan/Pop vs. annual challengers
10s: Weak East, Dominant West... much smarter game than ever before, talent pool is deeper than ever
The 3pt line revolution has changed the game but I'm liking the young stars in the league, I think the NBA is smarter than ever and it shows in the way the teams play.