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NFT: Mets v Yankees Rubber Match in the Rubber Room that is BBI

Headhunter : 4/26/2015 4:19 pm
Both Nats and Braves lost. It's early, but the Nats can dig themselves into a hole they will be spending all summer digging out of. Can really put it to them next weekend with 4 games at Citi Field
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JFC..  
arcarsenal : 4/26/2015 9:46 pm : link
This is ridiculous.
Mets D has been atrocious tonight  
Stu11 : 4/26/2015 9:46 pm : link
not helping Niese out who's struggling enough. Ouch another one...
Boy the Mets fielding  
section125 : 4/26/2015 9:46 pm : link
is making the Yankees fielding look good.
The Murphy - Flores defensive tandem is really a killer at times  
steve in ky : 4/26/2015 9:47 pm : link
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sloppy sloppy game  
ZGiants98 : 4/26/2015 9:47 pm : link
wtf. Wow.
cant wait for all the Flores haters to come out of  
PhiPsi125 : 4/26/2015 9:47 pm : link
hiding again. You know they will.
RE: I can't believe Murphy this year  
spike : 4/26/2015 9:47 pm : link
In comment 12250547 ZGiants98 said:
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He's been prone to the brain cramps. I just can't believe how many and how often this year.

Two groundball outs and we have runners at the corners with no outs. Ugh.


Murphy needs to sit for a few more games. Heck, we should've DH'ed him.
Pitch around Tiex to  
section125 : 4/26/2015 9:48 pm : link
get to Beltran. Sad.
need a DP  
spike : 4/26/2015 9:48 pm : link
from Beltran
RE: Pitch around Tiex to  
spike : 4/26/2015 9:49 pm : link
In comment 12250559 section125 said:
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get to Beltran. Sad.


Tex is on fire. There is no reason not to pitch around him
I don't know that even a  
Stufftherun : 4/26/2015 9:49 pm : link
good pitching staff can survive an entire season of this garbage infield play. Murph has never been good at anything but hitting and this slow start has to make you wonder if they've waited too long to move him.

The early returns on Flores are not good, just don't think he's cut out to play short. No range and his arm from deep in the hole just isn't strong enough.
Right on queue  
section125 : 4/26/2015 9:49 pm : link
Beltran immediately hits into a DP. What a hole he leaves batting #5.
RE: I can't believe Murphy this year  
steve in ky : 4/26/2015 9:49 pm : link
In comment 12250547 ZGiants98 said:
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He's been prone to the brain cramps. I just can't believe how many and how often this year.

Two groundball outs and we have runners at the corners with no outs. Ugh.


He has regressed this season to this point. While he was never stellar he at least was OK in the filed last season. He needs to get his head together quickly.
RE: cant wait for all the Flores haters to come out of  
Eric on Li : 4/26/2015 9:49 pm : link
In comment 12250555 PhiPsi125 said:
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hiding again. You know they will.


I don't think so - his errors are a lot less egregious than Murphy's. That was another situation where it looked like he (Flores) just got a little awkward with his footwork, likely because he needs reps. He's hitting and showing good range, just making young guy mistakes. Murphy's errors are the bigger issue.
why is Beltran  
spike : 4/26/2015 9:50 pm : link
batting 5th ?
RE: I don't know that even a  
ZGiants98 : 4/26/2015 9:50 pm : link
In comment 12250563 Stufftherun said:
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good pitching staff can survive an entire season of this garbage infield play. Murph has never been good at anything but hitting and this slow start has to make you wonder if they've waited too long to move him.

The early returns on Flores are not good, just don't think he's cut out to play short. No range and his arm from deep in the hole just isn't strong enough.


Flores has probably on of the strongest arms in baseball period.
Again Flores has plenty arm...  
Four Aces : 4/26/2015 9:50 pm : link
what are you watching?
Murphy's trade value  
spike : 4/26/2015 9:50 pm : link
is falling like a comet
at what point is Beltran sat down  
B in ALB : 4/26/2015 9:50 pm : link
in favor of a single-A player? Or beer league soft ball player?

And he's under contract thru next season. Awesome.
Beltran is so awesome  
terz22 : 4/26/2015 9:51 pm : link
Ughh
RE: RE: cant wait for all the Flores haters to come out of  
ZGiants98 : 4/26/2015 9:51 pm : link
In comment 12250566 Eric on Li said:
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hiding again. You know they will.



I don't think so - his errors are a lot less egregious than Murphy's. That was another situation where it looked like he (Flores) just got a little awkward with his footwork, likely because he needs reps. He's hitting and showing good range, just making young guy mistakes. Murphy's errors are the bigger issue.


Yup.
Yankees  
spike : 4/26/2015 9:51 pm : link
should've swapped Beltran for Josh Hamilton :)
RE: The Murphy - Flores defensive tandem is really a killer at times  
PhiPsi125 : 4/26/2015 9:51 pm : link
In comment 12250553 steve in ky said:
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The can win with one of them in the field, but that one can't be Murphy. At least the Flores error didnt cost them a run. And Flores should have just tossed it to Murphy. He probably thought he was closer to the bag than he actually was.
Clearly a footwork issue and was off balance when he made the throw  
Four Aces : 4/26/2015 9:52 pm : link
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well  
spike : 4/26/2015 9:52 pm : link
Murphy seems to be coming around with the bat this week.

2 for 2 tonight.
RE: RE: I don't know that even a  
Stufftherun : 4/26/2015 9:53 pm : link
In comment 12250568 ZGiants98 said:
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good pitching staff can survive an entire season of this garbage infield play. Murph has never been good at anything but hitting and this slow start has to make you wonder if they've waited too long to move him.

The early returns on Flores are not good, just don't think he's cut out to play short. No range and his arm from deep in the hole just isn't strong enough.



Flores has probably on of the strongest arms in baseball period.


I haven't read his scouting report but based on his play I'm not sure I can be convinced of that especially when he's backed into the hole.
Adam Wainwright  
spike : 4/26/2015 9:53 pm : link
might be out for the season with Achilles injury.

Big news for the NL teams.
To be honest...  
arcarsenal : 4/26/2015 9:54 pm : link
Tejada should have played tonight. Murphy or Flores could have DH'd. Niese is a GB pitcher.. we all know this. Muno didn't need to be in the lineup.
RE: at what point is Beltran sat down  
section125 : 4/26/2015 9:54 pm : link
In comment 12250572 B in ALB said:
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in favor of a single-A player? Or beer league soft ball player?

And he's under contract thru next season. Awesome.


Bad contract from the get go. But they are stuck so I'd bat him 7th to see if he can turn it around. But it seems to have no clue.
RE: Murphy's trade value  
Eric on Li : 4/26/2015 9:54 pm : link
In comment 12250571 spike said:
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is falling like a comet


Yeah, I definitely understand why they didn't want to dump his bat for nothing, but having him at 2nd compounds the pressure on Flores. The move I was most disappointed they didn't make was some form of Murphy+ for Zobrist. That would have added a leadoff hitter, a plus second baseman, and backup plan at SS all in 1 move. Though it might have cost Montero or Ynoa. I can't remember what Toby had as the comparable trade for the Mets system.
Arm strength is not really an issue with Flores  
steve in ky : 4/26/2015 9:54 pm : link
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RE: RE: RE: I don't know that even a  
PhiPsi125 : 4/26/2015 9:55 pm : link
In comment 12250580 Stufftherun said:
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In comment 12250563 Stufftherun said:


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good pitching staff can survive an entire season of this garbage infield play. Murph has never been good at anything but hitting and this slow start has to make you wonder if they've waited too long to move him.

The early returns on Flores are not good, just don't think he's cut out to play short. No range and his arm from deep in the hole just isn't strong enough.



Flores has probably on of the strongest arms in baseball period.



I haven't read his scouting report but based on his play I'm not sure I can be convinced of that especially when he's backed into the hole.


Did you not see that throw into the stands? His arm is wicked strong.
But that's my point if you watch his play then you would see he has  
Four Aces : 4/26/2015 9:55 pm : link
a very strong arm, and make all the throws.
RE: Adam Wainwright  
section125 : 4/26/2015 9:55 pm : link
In comment 12250581 spike said:
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might be out for the season with Achilles injury.

Big news for the NL teams.


And Scherzer jammed his thumb batting...
The Mets are loaded at 2nd.  
ZGiants98 : 4/26/2015 9:57 pm : link
Murphy will either pull his head out of his ass or he won't. We have the best record in baseball and Herrera approaching .400 in AAA. Thank god we didn't trade away talent for a 2ndbaseman.

With Wheeler out, Syndergaard struggling, Montero looking weird, Mazzoni gone, we don't have nearly the starting depth we thought we had early in the season.
RE: RE: Adam Wainwright  
PhiPsi125 : 4/26/2015 9:57 pm : link
In comment 12250589 section125 said:
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might be out for the season with Achilles injury.

Big news for the NL teams.



And Scherzer jammed his thumb batting...


How the hell does that happen?
RE: RE: RE: RE: I don't know that even a  
Stufftherun : 4/26/2015 9:59 pm : link
In comment 12250587 PhiPsi125 said:
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In comment 12250568 ZGiants98 said:


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In comment 12250563 Stufftherun said:


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good pitching staff can survive an entire season of this garbage infield play. Murph has never been good at anything but hitting and this slow start has to make you wonder if they've waited too long to move him.

The early returns on Flores are not good, just don't think he's cut out to play short. No range and his arm from deep in the hole just isn't strong enough.



Flores has probably on of the strongest arms in baseball period.



I haven't read his scouting report but based on his play I'm not sure I can be convinced of that especially when he's backed into the hole.



Did you not see that throw into the stands? His arm is wicked strong.


I stand corrected, he has plenty of arm strength to reach the 3rd row behind 1st.
why the fuck did Murphy not slide????  
PhiPsi125 : 4/26/2015 9:59 pm : link
????
Wow.  
arcarsenal : 4/26/2015 9:59 pm : link
The Mets are the dumbest fucking team in baseball.
come on  
spike : 4/26/2015 10:00 pm : link
Campbell..

Mets just don't have it tonight. smh
LOLMets  
Kurtt : 4/26/2015 10:00 pm : link
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Mets are playing like a minor league team tonight  
steve in ky : 4/26/2015 10:00 pm : link
how hard is it to know how many outs there are when on base?
oooof  
B in ALB : 4/26/2015 10:00 pm : link
That was terrible.

But we'll take it!
Wow Campbell really?!?  
Four Aces : 4/26/2015 10:01 pm : link
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LOL.  
ZGiants98 : 4/26/2015 10:01 pm : link
I have never seen anything like this. WTF is going on in this game.
What the hell have  
Stufftherun : 4/26/2015 10:01 pm : link
the Yankees pumped into the water supply on the visitors side?!
Holy crap  
BigBlueShock : 4/26/2015 10:01 pm : link
ive never seen anything quite like this.
RE: cant wait for all the Flores haters to come out of  
chris r : 4/26/2015 10:01 pm : link
In comment 12250555 PhiPsi125 said:
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hiding again. You know they will.


Are you his mom?
if I'm TC  
spike : 4/26/2015 10:02 pm : link
it's time to bench a few people to send a message right now.

Put in Tejada at 2nd and Muno to 3B. Mayberry can go DH
what the hell is wrong with this team tonight?  
PhiPsi125 : 4/26/2015 10:02 pm : link
Murphy doesnt slide on a double play ball where he is probably safe and Campbell thinks there are two outs on a fly ball when there is only one.

Yeesh
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