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Drew Boylhart says Gurley to the Giants

Big Rick in FL : 4/26/2015 8:51 pm
He said he's been hearing about it for a little bit over a month now & McShay has an account with them. Says they are friends so they talk often. He said when he found out he told McShay. He said after that McShay started making calls to scouts he knows & people in the front office. McShay was told the same thing by people in the Giants organization & people inside many other organizations.

Boylhart also said he doesn't like Gurley there even if he never got hurt. Sees him as a bigger version of CJ Spiller.

I'm sure a lot of people won't believe it. Some of it is on my Twitter account where anybody can see it & the more detailed stuff he sent me through direct messages. So take it with a grain of salt, but don't be surprised come 7:15 if Todd Gurley is a New York Football Giant.

Yes I know it's kind of a luxury pick, but if he never got hurt he could have easily went 3 to the Jags. Yes I know we need a Guard, but the draft isn't only 1 round. We can get a good Guard that could come in & start right away in the 2nd & 3rd. Just look at our SB teams & the Pats this past year. They had a 1st rounder at LT. Two Undrafted players at Guard, a 4th rounder at Center & a 2nd rounder at RT. I know it's a need just doesn't have to be addressed top 10. We have 3 very high picks on the Oline already + a free agent who was a stud in 2013 and got a good contract. Richburg playing his natural position & Schwartz back is going to help the line tremendously.
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I just don't believe  
LawrenceTaylor56 : 4/26/2015 8:54 pm : link
the Giants are going RB with the 9th pick with so many other needs. Especially a running back who is coming off an ACL injury.
One thing  
MookGiants : 4/26/2015 8:54 pm : link
I can't get out of my mind with Gurley is that Nick Chubb, a freshman, stepped in for him and they didn't miss a beat. The system there doesn't get nearly enough credit.
I would be surprised  
jeff57 : 4/26/2015 8:58 pm : link
But he could be a special back.
Giants have a 3 RB rotation now  
mattlawson : 4/26/2015 9:02 pm : link
Why in the World would they take one at 9. And I don't think you can just look at what another team is comprised on the offensive line and think we're just fine. The run blocking has got to get better or we'll suck ass.
that would make very little sense to me  
GiantNatty : 4/26/2015 9:04 pm : link
for too many reasons to list right now. that would be a major headscratcher...
Before the injury....  
damdevs : 4/26/2015 9:05 pm : link
Gurley was hands down the best player in college. The guy was on a different planet almost like AP was in college.

Now I'm not sure I buy it, but if both WRs ( Cooper and White) are gone along with Beasley(and they don't like the other DE/LBers) I wouldn't put it past Reese and Co to pull that trigger.

They can go OL in round 2 or 3, it's plenty deep enough.
im in the more in more this gurley to nyg  
CGiants07 : 4/26/2015 9:08 pm : link
is smokescreen trying to get a player they want to fall like Beasley or sherff
I could see it if he wasn't hurt.  
section125 : 4/26/2015 9:08 pm : link
But can they afford to have a guy sit for half a season? Are they going to start with Cruz and Gurley on PUP?

I like the player and I wouldn't "throw the remote" but I would scratch my head.
lol wtf  
ANGPASS : 4/26/2015 9:09 pm : link
i mean, it actually doesn't surprise me anymore because the giants always take someone we never expect anyway. we started hearing about this last year with OBJ. One thing that makes sense is that Mcshay wouldn't randomly put Gurley to the giants unless he hears from people inside that they really like him. Giants do go BPA, and if that is true, it makes sense because he is a top talent in the draft. his injury puts him back.
RE: One thing  
damdevs : 4/26/2015 9:11 pm : link
In comment 12250432 MookGiants said:
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I can't get out of my mind with Gurley is that Nick Chubb, a freshman, stepped in for him and they didn't miss a beat. The system there doesn't get nearly enough credit.
Mook....Chubb is a wrecking ball and he was highly recruited coming out. They've got a freshman that is really good to. Lit it up at the Spring game.

While I think Mark Richt is a good guy, especially in college football and does it the right way, is there a coach in college who does less with the talent he's got?
RE: im in the more in more this gurley to nyg  
damdevs : 4/26/2015 9:13 pm : link
In comment 12250456 CGiants07 said:
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is smokescreen trying to get a player they want to fall like Beasley or sherff
Could be...maybe to get the Falcons to bite. They need a RB like nobodies business.
I  
AcidTest : 4/26/2015 9:17 pm : link
guess if this is right, Boylhart and McShay will look very smart. If it's wrong, they'll just be pundits who incorrectly claimed they knew who a team was going to pick.

I don't want Gurley at nine. He torn his ACL less than a year ago, and has never played football since it happened. I get that we go BPA, but that does not include a RB who tore his ACL less than a year ago.
It Would Be Risky  
Jim in Tampa : 4/26/2015 9:18 pm : link
But I'd rather the Giants gambled on greatness rather than reach for Flowers, who many have coming off the board somewhere between 20-24.
The mission in the top 10  
Enoch : 4/26/2015 9:18 pm : link
isn't to fill a hole. It's to find a star. (If you can do both, great.)

That said, I'm not all that confident in the ROI on a star running back in the modern NFL.
I think the smoke is getting thick  
BillT : 4/26/2015 9:19 pm : link
!
Gurley  
JesseS : 4/26/2015 9:19 pm : link
Is that good.
If it happens  
Carl in CT : 4/26/2015 9:20 pm : link
He better be AP! Or JR should be fired on the spot! No excuses!
Reese drafts on value  
Big Rick in FL : 4/26/2015 9:20 pm : link
Yes the injury sucks, but an ACL isn't a serious injury like it used to be. These guys are coming back quicker then ever after a torn ACL. Thomas Davis has torn his ACL 3 times and he is still a damn good player. A guy like Gurley can make the Oline look a lot better. We essentially upgraded 2 positions this year without signing a starting caliber player.

The value is certainly there. He could have easily went 3 if he never got hurt. Talent wise he is either 1A or 1B with Leonard Williams.

Yes we have 3 RBs on the roster, but are any of them irreplaceable? Nope. Jennings could be gone next year or even traded for a late round pick provided we draft Gurley. Williams averaged a terrible 3.3 YPC & really didn't look good last year. Vereen is decent running the ball, but we signed him to be a pass catcher out of the backfield or line up in the slot when we go 5 wide. Not a single one of those players should stop us from getting a guy who has potential to be Adrian Peterson. Jennings is decent at a lot of things but there isn't really one thing he is good at. Williams is a short yardage guy & Vereen is the receiver. Gurley does everything very good. He's a better short yardage back then Williams & I don't think right now he's a better receiver then Vereen, but he has potential to be just as good.

I am open to OT, DE & WR. Gurley on this team and we could have the best offense in the league.

Eli, Gurley, Williams, Vereen, Odell, Cruz, Randle, D. Harris, M. Harris, Donnell, Fells, Beatty, Schwartz, Richburg, Pugh & a guy like Tyler Sambrailo in the 3rd is very scary offense.
Behind this current offensive line...  
M.S. : 4/26/2015 9:20 pm : link
...Gurley sucks.
Running Backs don't win Championships...  
M.S. : 4/26/2015 9:23 pm : link
...unless they're running behind championship level offensive lines.
Boylhart is seldom...  
BMac : 4/26/2015 9:24 pm : link
...close to being accurate with either his team needs/draft picks or his player evaluations. The best way to bet is against him. In all but a very few instances, you'll win your bet.
No way that happens  
ZogZerg : 4/26/2015 9:26 pm : link
too much risk in that pick.
There is truth here...  
Sy'56 : 4/26/2015 9:28 pm : link
.
Not Buying it  
ZogZerg : 4/26/2015 9:31 pm : link
Sure, things could have been said, but that doesn't mean that are the intentions.
I agree there is definitely some truth there  
blueblood : 4/26/2015 9:33 pm : link
and its VERY possible the Giants are putting that info out there to get teams interested in Gurley to possibly trade up...
RE: Running Backs don't win Championships...  
Dunedin81 : 4/26/2015 9:35 pm : link
In comment 12250491 M.S. said:
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...unless they're running behind championship level offensive lines.


Offensive lines look a lot better when they have QBs with quick releases and running backs whose presence in the huddle doesn't announce "run" or "pass" to the defense. They're probably one guy and good health away from being a solid line, but I think Gurley could run behind this OL.
Which RB will be inactive each week, waiting for an injury?  
Ivan15 : 4/26/2015 9:37 pm : link
Jennings was pretty productive when he wasn't hurt. Williams will be a lot better this year.

There are 2 other roster RBs worth a look who also will be waiting for someone to get hurt.
I've been pretty successful  
Bill in UT : 4/26/2015 9:38 pm : link
at not worrying about who the Giants might pick
This  
AcidTest : 4/26/2015 9:40 pm : link
would be Reese again swinging for the fences, with "high ceiling" "low floor" players. That is exactly what put the roster in its current state, along with drafting players with high character risks. You don't draft Gurley for the same reason you don't draft Gregory. Too much risk, especially at #9, and for a team with so many needs.

Medical science has drastically improved the ability of players in all sports to return from a torn ACL. But there are no guarantees, and it would only take the slightest diminution in ability for him to be nothing more than an ordinary RB in the NFL. He also tore it less than a year ago, and hasn't played football since the injury.

Gurley less than a year removed from a torn ACL behind this OL is a formula for success? People wrongly criticize Williams. Sure he needs to be more patient, and do a better job seeing lanes. But he was a rookie running behind a bad OL.

Mara should intervene and tell Jerry no.
Gurley at #9 and  
section125 : 4/26/2015 9:40 pm : link
Tomlinson or Cann or at #40?
Besides the 2 QBs, if these players are taken  
Watson : 4/26/2015 9:41 pm : link

Williams/Cooper/Fowler/
White/Beasley/Scherff/

Who?

Parker/Shelton/Gregory/Ray/Flowers/Waynes/Peat/Landon Collins
I think you could make a case why the Giants would not pick any of these players at 9. Gurley may not be all that rediculous.
I hope it doesn't play out in a way that makes Gurley the he'st option  
j_rud : 4/26/2015 9:43 pm : link
I just don't like taking RBs that early in general. Time and time again it's been proven that if there's one position that regularly yields gems late it's RBs. Even if Gurley didn't have the injury history I wouldn't be a fan of a RB that early. An OL like Flowers or Scherff (as much I'm keeping my fingers crossed that a wideout falls) would do more to fix the rum game than Gurley. It's not that I think the Giants have a stable of stars at the RB position but they've got a solid, capable group with a diverse set of skills (Vereen's pass catching/blocking, Jennings all around skills, Williams power), I feel the best way to upgrade the running game is to upgrade the OL.
I want a fat guy!  
K-Gun? Pop-Gun : 4/26/2015 9:50 pm : link
Power wins football games.

No, that wasn't my old handle.
They won't take gurley  
Ten Ton Hammer : 4/26/2015 9:51 pm : link
And frankly, I'm shocked this is even a report considering how little sense it makes whatsoever.
melvin gordon  
hutch33 : 4/26/2015 9:55 pm : link
looks better and will be the better pro
Hey, Gurley could get back to the line of scrimmage  
PatersonPlank : 4/26/2015 9:58 pm : link
rather than losing 2 yards per carry. Thats an upgrade.
You know what they say this time of year  
blueblood : 4/26/2015 10:02 pm : link
believe half of what you see and NONE of what you hear..
Why is this hard to believe?  
Shecky : 4/26/2015 10:06 pm : link
It is well known Reese LOVED Spiller coming out. And to hear the Giants like Gurley, and then described as a "bigger Spiller". Sounds like someone clearly said something they shouldn't have said.
This  
Jon in NYC : 4/26/2015 10:08 pm : link
screams of smokescreen.
Fortune favors the bold  
bceagle05 : 4/26/2015 10:13 pm : link
but it's hard to fathom this pick. I know, I know - BPA - but we have a lot invested at RB already.
Can't argue about the guys talent  
nyjuggernaut2 : 4/26/2015 10:14 pm : link
I wouldn't mind having a RB with that type of game-breaking speed.
Gurley Highlights - ( New Window )
The Giants also  
Matt in SGS : 4/26/2015 10:14 pm : link
"wanted' Manzeil because they wanted to goad the Cowboys into a bad trade last year. I wonder if this is something similar where Dallas wants him (they could use a RB) and the Giants want to see if they can make Jerruh do something stupid.
Born in 1994.  
bceagle05 : 4/26/2015 10:14 pm : link
Damn I'm feeling old.
why is this hard to believe?  
GiantsFan84 : 4/26/2015 10:15 pm : link
I like Jennings but he isn't young, isn't cheap, and is injury prone.

Vereen is your third down change of pace back.

Williams was unspectacular and may not be more than a #2 back.

Gurley can be a star.

And the OL can be fixed in Rd 2.
RE: This  
blueblood : 4/26/2015 10:16 pm : link
In comment 12250626 Jon in NYC said:
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screams of smokescreen.


Give that man a cigar
RE: why is this hard to believe?  
Ten Ton Hammer : 4/26/2015 10:20 pm : link
In comment 12250640 GiantsFan84 said:
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I like Jennings but he isn't young, isn't cheap, and is injury prone.

Vereen is your third down change of pace back.

Williams was unspectacular and may not be more than a #2 back.

Gurley can be a star.

And the OL can be fixed in Rd 2.


Or you could fix the OL, and make your own RB like they've done multiple times and won Super Bowls with.

This is the same franchise that made Brandon Jacobs and Derrick ward into 1200 and 1500 yard rushers.
fairly certain they will  
bc4life : 4/26/2015 10:25 pm : link
take a rb in this draft - wouldn't bet on it being in the 1st round.
doesn't make sense  
Mike in NY : 4/26/2015 10:26 pm : link
To sign Vereen if you were seriously considering Gurley
sure it does  
bc4life : 4/26/2015 10:27 pm : link
first you can't guarantee you'll get Gurley.

second, Vereen is a 3rd down back.

Tiki was the last back the Giants had that opposing defenses had to game plan for.
on a side note  
bc4life : 4/26/2015 10:28 pm : link
people assessing Williams' ceiling after his rookie year are really jumping the gun, IMO.
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