He said he's been hearing about it for a little bit over a month now & McShay has an account with them. Says they are friends so they talk often. He said when he found out he told McShay. He said after that McShay started making calls to scouts he knows & people in the front office. McShay was told the same thing by people in the Giants organization & people inside many other organizations.
Boylhart also said he doesn't like Gurley there even if he never got hurt. Sees him as a bigger version of CJ Spiller.
I'm sure a lot of people won't believe it. Some of it is on my Twitter account where anybody can see it & the more detailed stuff he sent me through direct messages. So take it with a grain of salt, but don't be surprised come 7:15 if Todd Gurley is a New York Football Giant.
Yes I know it's kind of a luxury pick, but if he never got hurt he could have easily went 3 to the Jags. Yes I know we need a Guard, but the draft isn't only 1 round. We can get a good Guard that could come in & start right away in the 2nd & 3rd. Just look at our SB teams & the Pats this past year. They had a 1st rounder at LT. Two Undrafted players at Guard, a 4th rounder at Center & a 2nd rounder at RT. I know it's a need just doesn't have to be addressed top 10. We have 3 very high picks on the Oline already + a free agent who was a stud in 2013 and got a good contract. Richburg playing his natural position & Schwartz back is going to help the line tremendously.
Nobody could stop it. Even after Tiki was gone. Teams certainly did try.
Jennings is 30 yrs and injury prone. Williams is a limited RB. And Vereen is a 3rd down back.
If Jennings gets hurt again, we're screwed again. We do not another complete back like Jennings. The Giants still have a void and need at RB.
And if Gurley is as good as they say he is, I would welcome the pick. He would be a difference-maker. I like Jennings but he's just a solid back not a home-run hitter like Gurley.
You cannot guarantee that Gurley will/would be there at #9 at the start of March when Vereen was signed.
Vereen has nothing to do with Gurley.. Gurley is potentially a bell cow. Vereen is not that..
Offensive lines make RBs, not the other way around
Based on the win or less mandate and some comments by Reese, I'd think they may be less likely to take a risk on a player, especially given some very good backs being available in subsequent rounds.
Offensive lines make RBs, not the other way around
Agree.
If the Giamts think Gurley is a star in waiting they're not going to pass on him because they gave a couple million to a 3rd down back in FA. Vereen isn't likely to even start IMO, he's set for 130-150 touches tops. If they think Gurley is a stud there's no way Vereen even enters their minds during the decision making process.
Vereen is your third down change of pace back.
Williams was unspectacular and may not be more than a #2 back.
Gurley can be a star.
And the OL can be fixed in Rd 2.
It's hard to believe because Melvin Gordon is clearly the superior RB. Not even considering the ACL...
I will hate it if Hurley is the pick, over Gordon.
No offense to you because I see you post here a lot, but that sounds just plain silly to me.
Matt, that was my initial reaction too.
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"wanted' Manzeil because they wanted to goad the Cowboys into a bad trade last year. I wonder if this is something similar where Dallas wants him (they could use a RB) and the Giants want to see if they can make Jerruh do something stupid.
Matt, that was my initial reaction too.
Chances are Gordon is available where the Cowboys pick. I doubt the Cowboys are worried by a rumor the Giants are looking at Gurley.
That said, if Gurley is in fact ranked very high on the Giant’s board, and is best player available, I can see them going for it. However, it also doesn’t seem likely to me that a seriously injured player would be ranked so high.
I am ready for surprises Thursday. Outside of NYG, it will be interesting to see whatever the Eagles have up their sleeve.
Boylhart has Gurley tagged as a 2nd round talent behind Zach Zenner.
Connect all the dots and you've got - WTF!?!?
Good RBs can make an OL look better just as a great OL can make a decent RB look better. If you have a defense that has to worry about a home run hitting RB and a game changing WR you create a lot of headaches. I think OL is deep enough to find a starter at 40, we did in 2004 with Snee in the 2nd we can do it here.
I'm a big fan of Flowers/Scherff/Collins but Gurley is a potential game changing player. I can honestly say after last year's home run the FO gets a pass, they can pick whoever and I'm confident it will be fine. The past two drafts have been much more productive, I'm hoping we make it three in a row.
considering how high our pick is, and the injury in the mix, it would be very hard to believe the giants would do this.
of course if he turns out to be adrian peterson 2.0 no one would complain
Shelton is tempting.
Vereen is your third down change of pace back.
Williams was unspectacular and may not be more than a #2 back.
Gurley can be a star.
And the OL can be fixed in Rd 2.
It's hard to believe because Melvin Gordon is clearly the superior RB. Not even considering the ACL...
I will hate it if Hurley is the pick, over Gordon.
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I like Jennings but he isn't young, isn't cheap, and is injury prone.
Vereen is your third down change of pace back.
Williams was unspectacular and may not be more than a #2 back.
Gurley can be a star.
And the OL can be fixed in Rd 2.
It's hard to believe because Melvin Gordon is clearly the superior RB. Not even considering the ACL...
I will hate it if Hurley is the pick, over Gordon.
But if it makes you feel any better:
"Multiple sources" tell the Miami Herald that the Dolphins "covet" Georgia RB Todd Gurley, and "would love" for Gurley to fall to them at No. 14.
No. 14 would be considered a "fall" for Gurley, who is now seen as a probable top-ten pick. Many NFL evaluators view Gurley as one of the best all-around players in an otherwise weak 2015 draft class. The Herald spoke to Miami Heat team physician Harlan Selesnick, who said the risk of an ACL re-tear is just two percent for pro athletes. "The success rate in terms of stability is really quite good," Selesnick stated. "You don’t see a lot of guys having a repeat ACL surgery. You can usually feel comfortable taking one of those players."
Exactly. Purse smoke screen. If one of the WRs isn't there, then the pick will most likely be OL.
After about 10 mins of tape review they mention Gurley's vision "isn't as good as Gordon's." After another 10 minutes, after comparing him to AP a few times, they admit he's not as fast as AP re long runs... Then they say he's not as powerful as AP...
Gurley IS NOT AS GOOD AS GORDON...
And in this video, the guys were trying to pump Gurley!
Eli, Gordon, Vereen, OBJ, Randle and Donnell.
HE-LLO!!!
Not drafting Gurley because we have Rashad Jennings and Andre Williams is like saying don't draft OBJ because we have Reuben Randle and Corey Washington
After about 10 mins of tape review they mention Gurley's vision "isn't as good as Gordon's." After another 10 minutes, after comparing him to AP a few times, they admit he's not as fast as AP re long runs... Then they say he's not as powerful as AP...
Gurley IS NOT AS GOOD AS GORDON...
And in this video, the guys were trying to pump Gurley!
Well for one SY'56 thinks Gurley is better than Gordon, although the rating is close and the rating does include the injury dropping Gurley's rating.
I don't think I've seen a scouting report that has Gordon rated higher.
Sy'56 RB Scouting Report - ( New Window )
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In comment 12250636 Matt in SGS said:
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"wanted' Manzeil because they wanted to goad the Cowboys into a bad trade last year. I wonder if this is something similar where Dallas wants him (they could use a RB) and the Giants want to see if they can make Jerruh do something stupid.
Matt, that was my initial reaction too.
Chances are Gordon is available where the Cowboys pick. I doubt the Cowboys are worried by a rumor the Giants are looking at Gurley.
Not unless the Cowboys think they will get either Gurley or Gordon when they pick as both will be there. If they think one will be off the board, they might panic trade up somewhere earlier and give up more than the value chart will show if they feel the other might be gone too.
Everybody wants to call McShay or Boylhart out that they don't bother reading. One of BBIs very own & most knowledgeable draft guy on this board posts this & nobody even replies?
Thrown.