He said he's been hearing about it for a little bit over a month now & McShay has an account with them. Says they are friends so they talk often. He said when he found out he told McShay. He said after that McShay started making calls to scouts he knows & people in the front office. McShay was told the same thing by people in the Giants organization & people inside many other organizations.
Boylhart also said he doesn't like Gurley there even if he never got hurt. Sees him as a bigger version of CJ Spiller.
I'm sure a lot of people won't believe it. Some of it is on my Twitter account where anybody can see it & the more detailed stuff he sent me through direct messages. So take it with a grain of salt, but don't be surprised come 7:15 if Todd Gurley is a New York Football Giant.
Yes I know it's kind of a luxury pick, but if he never got hurt he could have easily went 3 to the Jags. Yes I know we need a Guard, but the draft isn't only 1 round. We can get a good Guard that could come in & start right away in the 2nd & 3rd. Just look at our SB teams & the Pats this past year. They had a 1st rounder at LT. Two Undrafted players at Guard, a 4th rounder at Center & a 2nd rounder at RT. I know it's a need just doesn't have to be addressed top 10. We have 3 very high picks on the Oline already + a free agent who was a stud in 2013 and got a good contract. Richburg playing his natural position & Schwartz back is going to help the line tremendously.
Just because the media and even some NFL "insiders" say it doesn't make it true. Good RBs help teams win games. Good RBs are in fact hard to find. We haven't had one here in years if we had one in 2012 we make the playoffs. IF we had one last year we win 8 games by accident.
What we are arguing is that you don't have to spend a top 10 pick on one to get a running game that helps you win.
You can create a good RB by having a good offensive line.
Show me all these currently elite high-drafted RBs and how they played pivotal roles in winning a championship. There's only one. Marshawn Lynch, who was decidedly unimpressive at best for the first 4 years of his career.
I think what makes it questionable for the Giants is that they've done a good job with finding non elite but very good guys later in drafts. But given that Jerry spent a first on David Wilson, I don't think it's fair to say that the organization agrees that first round picks on RBs are a bad idea.
On point. I just don't think Gurley is THE GUY this year, not relative to Gordon in the 1st or other backs that will be drafted in the later rounds this year.
Here are the previous Make the Case candidates
Missouri DE Shane Ray vs. Iowa OT Brandon Scherff
Nebraska DE Randy Gregory vs. Miami OT Ereck Flowers
Texas DT Malcom Brown vs. Washington DT Danny Shelton
Missouri DE Shane Ray vs. Stanford OT Andrus Peat
Safety Landon Collins vs. WR Amari Cooper
Iowa OT Brandon Scherff vs. Stanford OT Andrus Peat
Alabama WR Amari Cooper vs. West Virginia WR Kevin White
Nebraska DE Randy Gregory vs. Clemson DE Vic Beasley
Alabama WR Amari Cooper vs. Iowa OT Brandon Scherff
I found that interesting..
Not reading anything into it.. but there has been ZERO mention of a RB since they started doing these Make the Case things.. and all of a sudden a RB??
Does that mean I think they will take Gurley.. NO.. but I think they are baiting someone else to try and take him..
Im down to being OK with Cooper, Scherff, White, Flowers.. in that order..
I think its very possible one WR could be there.. everyone has a WR pegged to Chicago but their defense is HORRIBLE..
Just can't see Reese taking a running back coming off an ACL with the 9th pick.He likes to gamble,but that one might put him on the Turnpike with his thumb hanging out.
of Gurley on draft breakdown, that starts with footage vs South Carolina from 2014. That's what they call it actually I think it was a 2013 game...
After about 10 mins of tape review they mention Gurley's vision "isn't as good as Gordon's." After another 10 minutes, after comparing him to AP a few times, they admit he's not as fast as AP re long runs... Then they say he's not as powerful as AP...
Gurley IS NOT AS GOOD AS GORDON...
And in this video, the guys were trying to pump Gurley!
Well for one SY'56 thinks Gurley is better than Gordon, although the rating is close and the rating does include the injury dropping Gurley's rating.
I don't think I've seen a scouting report that has Gordon rated higher. Sy'56 RB Scouting Report - ( New Window )
Well someone already mentioned Mayock's last board, and a while ago Bucky Brooks did a detailed breakdown of Gordon vs Gurley, and concluded he liked Gordon better too, with very specific rationale.
But I am not quoting sources, I suggest people look at draft breakdown tape and analysis and decide for themselves!
With due respect to Sy'56, I strongly disagree about Gurley. And I think the media has an historical bias fir Georgia RBs, an against Wisconsin RBs.... Not to mention a BBI general bias too. Rodney Hampton vs Ron Dayne, anyone care to recall?
Alot of smoke screens right now. Interest in Gurley could be for leverage for trade down. Could be wrong on Scherff, but Giants board/rows will have Williams at top then Cooper (and maybe White). Peat, Flowers next.
Giants have size/arm length preferences and neither Collins nor Scherff fit their prototype like Peat and Flowers.
Love Erving and Smith too (and fit our size /build prototype fairly well) but dont see Giants taking them at 9.