about 25 minutes north of Baltimore city. I miss NJ, but been here for about 6 years and really like it.
With that said, my wife works at the University of Maryland Medical Center, and they just evacuated her campus and all the businesses around there because of a supposed gang fight.
They are saying that the Bloods, Crips, & Black Guerilla Family gangs are banding together to attached the cops.
president in all of this nonsense ? Has he even issued a statement ? Anyone see Darnell Docketts tweet yesterday about him hating cops .Surprised this is not a bigger story
nobody is in a rush to defend the police because it clearly looks like wrong was done here, but at the same time setting a city on fire and harassing innocent people isn't going to bring him back and it certainly isn't going to make life any easier for the people of his community.
president in all of this nonsense ? Has he even issued a statement ? Anyone see Darnell Docketts tweet yesterday about him hating cops .Surprised this is not a bigger story
president in all of this nonsense ? Has he even issued a statement ? Anyone see Darnell Docketts tweet yesterday about him hating cops .Surprised this is not a bigger story
Just looked at his Twitter F that guy, he supports criminals
You ask where is the President? Is it because you expect your President to issue a statement for every local disturbance( fair enough, if that is what you are asking) or is it because he is Black and the rioters are mostly Black?
I would think if peoples lives are in danger like they were the other night with what they are saying about gang members wanting to kill cops and more rioting i would expect the president to issue some kind of statement whether he is black ,white ,purple orange or blue .
and generally against rushes to judgment, but healthy young men tend not to suffer severe, ultimately fatal spinal injuries out of nowhere. There are serious grounds for concern. You can find rioting abhorrent without assuming that there couldn't possibly be legitimate reasons for people to be outraged.
and generally against rushes to judgment, but healthy young men tend not to suffer severe, ultimately fatal spinal injuries out of nowhere. There are serious grounds for concern. You can find rioting abhorrent without assuming that there couldn't possibly be legitimate reasons for people to be outraged.
We are definitely in the middle of a trend of seemingly awful police behavior.
that is young, disenfranchised and feeling specifically targeted by the police AND living in an era of hyper communication, bad things are going to happen.
and generally against rushes to judgment, but healthy young men tend not to suffer severe, ultimately fatal spinal injuries out of nowhere. There are serious grounds for concern. You can find rioting abhorrent without assuming that there couldn't possibly be legitimate reasons for people to be outraged.
We are definitely in the middle of a trend of seemingly awful police behavior.
Not stating that it is, but it MAY be saturation media, internet, social media, etc. attention. It may be that in the past, incidents like the cop shooting a guy in the back while he is running away from a traffic stop might have ended with the cop's report. But social media rightly made it a big story.
or it may be that as protesters argue that some of these things were happening all along and people just weren't believed. The energy was there after Ferguson, where after the initial reports it seemed misdirected, and now it is being channeled toward cases that most people agree are extremely troublesome. And as long as that energy could head in that direction without being accompanied by rioting and violence it could be a force for positive change, and perhaps it will still be.
caught on tape. I'm no bleeding heart, I believe the police do a job I wouldn't do and they are asked to make life and death decisions in a heartbeat. I also believe the communities that are lashing out feel they have been targeted and 99 percent of the time there is no video. It's a tough systematic problem
Southeast Baltimore. The protests and riots haven't been near my neighborhood but it's still very concerning. There is a very anti-police sentiment in the city right now. A disturbance just recently broke out near a local mall and now there are about 100 police officers in riot gear getting rocks thrown at them. It was reportedly started by a bunch of teenagers.
between citizens and LE for some time. "Stop snitching" started there, IIRC. The issue for a lot of people is going to be serious indications of gang involvement. Because given a choice between heavy-handed police and the Bloods and Crips even people who might otherwise be sympathetic are going to have a hard time taking the side of the protesters.
The "threat" from gangs sounds like BS. Criminal organizations generally try to lay low, not mobilize precisely when the spotlight is on their backyard. At the end of the day, they're profit-maximizing enterprises, not holy warriors.
Nothing is particularly different other than our awareness level. Media has learned how to make a story of it and all they need is material to run with everyday. Looking foward, Police will be left with no choice but to prove they did not use excessive force in anything they do, i.e. body cameras. It will take a lot of false claims by detainees until things are perceived as fair and balanced again.
Fairness is both relative and a pendulum.
Having said that, how did this guy end up with a broken neck?
not saying the police are right at all but i dont see any police
The "threat" from gangs sounds like BS. Criminal organizations generally try to lay low, not mobilize precisely when the spotlight is on their backyard. At the end of the day, they're profit-maximizing enterprises, not holy warriors.
If you are really targeting police, it would be smarter to keep it a secret...
The "threat" from gangs sounds like BS. Criminal organizations generally try to lay low, not mobilize precisely when the spotlight is on their backyard. At the end of the day, they're profit-maximizing enterprises, not holy warriors.
This was my reaction as well. That "fact sheet" or whatever it was that the BPD released was probably nothing more than a bit of propaganda to deflect whatever criticism is aimed their way in the aftermath of all this.
the other interesting thing in this is that....while certain people
The "threat" from gangs sounds like BS. Criminal organizations generally try to lay low, not mobilize precisely when the spotlight is on their backyard. At the end of the day, they're profit-maximizing enterprises, not holy warriors.
They're profit-maximizing enterprises run, especially at the local level, by people who are motivated by reputational concerns almost as much as they are about money. It's not Morgan-Stanley.
RE: not saying the police are right at all but i dont see any police
The "threat" from gangs sounds like BS. Criminal organizations generally try to lay low, not mobilize precisely when the spotlight is on their backyard. At the end of the day, they're profit-maximizing enterprises, not holy warriors.
They're profit-maximizing enterprises run, especially at the local level, by people who are motivated by reputational concerns almost as much as they are about money. It's not Morgan-Stanley.
I agree but open warfare on the cops when the nation is watching is probably pretty bad for business. They probably satisfy their reputational demands by beefing with rivals.
RE: RE: not saying the police are right at all but i dont see any police
beating me down. You know why? because im not getting into trouble.
What im mad at is local officials and career protestors not coming out and speaking to stop this violence
GMAN - But that's the point... in SOME instances people are either committing crimes where the punishment they're receiving doesn't fit the level of the crime committed (for example getting tasered and shot for a broken taillight) or not committing any crime at all (like, for instance, the 12 year old kid who was shot by police because he was playing with a toy guy in the park). I wouldn't call myself a 'cop hater' at all because I realize they have a very tough job to do... BUT I've had my own experiences with police brutality and it's a very helpless feeling that I don't think most would understand unless put in the same position.
All of that said, what's going on in B-more is sickening and many city officials, as well as the family of the deceased kid themselves, have come out and asked for the rioting to stop. But having videos come out that show police officers celebrating and 'fist pumping' each other after they'd just beat down a guy (after a traffic stop no less) doesn't help ease the frustration that many black folks are, and have been, feeling for decades now (see link).
The "threat" from gangs sounds like BS. Criminal organizations generally try to lay low, not mobilize precisely when the spotlight is on their backyard. At the end of the day, they're profit-maximizing enterprises, not holy warriors.
They're profit-maximizing enterprises run, especially at the local level, by people who are motivated by reputational concerns almost as much as they are about money. It's not Morgan-Stanley.
I agree but open warfare on the cops when the nation is watching is probably pretty bad for business. They probably satisfy their reputational demands by beefing with rivals.
Reputation is money for gangs, and it is all about the money.....
Amazing that while these riots were going on Saturday night
try to make this an entirely racial conflict, the Baltimore Police Department is around 50% black.
That part has been pretty ridiculous. The mayor, chief of police, and over half of the city council members are African American. It's not like you have the white "man" against the poor black community.
and it is pretty clear to me that the police today made sure the protests/light rioting/whatever you want to call it, stayed out of the downtown or Inner Harbor area.
Regardless of what Freddie Gray did or what his criminal record is, he did not deserve to be tossed in the back of a van with his hands cuffed behind his back, with no ability to protect himself, and be intentionally driven around in a reckless, violent manner in order to give him a "rough ride" that was intended to injure him. The fact that the reasons for his arrest are murky at best makes the incident that much more questionable, but that part of it really is immaterial.
forgot the link... Yeah guys! We sure kicked that guys ass didn't we?!!! - ( New Window )
That is B.S. they shouldarrest all of the the cops and put them in general pop.
Pretty sure at least one was charged with assault.
One cop (the one who punched him 16 times in the head during the arrest) was fired. One woman resigned (don't know if she was in the video or had something else to do with it) and the others haven't been punished at all. At least not yet anyway.
because David Simon was a reporter there....
With that said, my wife works at the University of Maryland Medical Center, and they just evacuated her campus and all the businesses around there because of a supposed gang fight.
They are saying that the Bloods, Crips, & Black Guerilla Family gangs are banding together to attached the cops.
Not good.
Thank god my wife is home already.
You are simply a treasure.
What did the tweet say?
Just looked at his Twitter F that guy, he supports criminals
All hell breaking loose at the moment.
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and generally against rushes to judgment, but healthy young men tend not to suffer severe, ultimately fatal spinal injuries out of nowhere. There are serious grounds for concern. You can find rioting abhorrent without assuming that there couldn't possibly be legitimate reasons for people to be outraged.
We are definitely in the middle of a trend of seemingly awful police behavior.
Not stating that it is, but it MAY be saturation media, internet, social media, etc. attention. It may be that in the past, incidents like the cop shooting a guy in the back while he is running away from a traffic stop might have ended with the cop's report. But social media rightly made it a big story.
Fairness is both relative and a pendulum.
Having said that, how did this guy end up with a broken neck?
What im mad at is local officials and career protestors not coming out and speaking to stop this violence
If you are really targeting police, it would be smarter to keep it a secret...
This was my reaction as well. That "fact sheet" or whatever it was that the BPD released was probably nothing more than a bit of propaganda to deflect whatever criticism is aimed their way in the aftermath of all this.
They're profit-maximizing enterprises run, especially at the local level, by people who are motivated by reputational concerns almost as much as they are about money. It's not Morgan-Stanley.
What im mad at is local officials and career protestors not coming out and speaking to stop this violence
Al Sharpton is on his way. Feel better now?
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The "threat" from gangs sounds like BS. Criminal organizations generally try to lay low, not mobilize precisely when the spotlight is on their backyard. At the end of the day, they're profit-maximizing enterprises, not holy warriors.
They're profit-maximizing enterprises run, especially at the local level, by people who are motivated by reputational concerns almost as much as they are about money. It's not Morgan-Stanley.
I agree but open warfare on the cops when the nation is watching is probably pretty bad for business. They probably satisfy their reputational demands by beefing with rivals.
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beating me down. You know why? because im not getting into trouble.
What im mad at is local officials and career protestors not coming out and speaking to stop this violence
Al Sharpton is on his way. Feel better now?
oh god...
What im mad at is local officials and career protestors not coming out and speaking to stop this violence
GMAN - But that's the point... in SOME instances people are either committing crimes where the punishment they're receiving doesn't fit the level of the crime committed (for example getting tasered and shot for a broken taillight) or not committing any crime at all (like, for instance, the 12 year old kid who was shot by police because he was playing with a toy guy in the park). I wouldn't call myself a 'cop hater' at all because I realize they have a very tough job to do... BUT I've had my own experiences with police brutality and it's a very helpless feeling that I don't think most would understand unless put in the same position.
All of that said, what's going on in B-more is sickening and many city officials, as well as the family of the deceased kid themselves, have come out and asked for the rioting to stop. But having videos come out that show police officers celebrating and 'fist pumping' each other after they'd just beat down a guy (after a traffic stop no less) doesn't help ease the frustration that many black folks are, and have been, feeling for decades now (see link).
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The "threat" from gangs sounds like BS. Criminal organizations generally try to lay low, not mobilize precisely when the spotlight is on their backyard. At the end of the day, they're profit-maximizing enterprises, not holy warriors.
They're profit-maximizing enterprises run, especially at the local level, by people who are motivated by reputational concerns almost as much as they are about money. It's not Morgan-Stanley.
I agree but open warfare on the cops when the nation is watching is probably pretty bad for business. They probably satisfy their reputational demands by beefing with rivals.
Reputation is money for gangs, and it is all about the money.....
Yeah guys! We sure kicked that guys ass didn't we?!!! - ( New Window )
That part has been pretty ridiculous. The mayor, chief of police, and over half of the city council members are African American. It's not like you have the white "man" against the poor black community.
BREAKING: Authorities say at least 7 officers have been injured in ongoing violent clash in Baltimore.
Baltimore Riots 2015 Compilation - ( New Window )
That is B.S. they shouldarrest all of the the cops and put them in general pop.
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forgot the link... Yeah guys! We sure kicked that guys ass didn't we?!!! - ( New Window )
That is B.S. they shouldarrest all of the the cops and put them in general pop.
Pretty sure at least one was charged with assault.
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forgot the link... Yeah guys! We sure kicked that guys ass didn't we?!!! - ( New Window )
That is B.S. they shouldarrest all of the the cops and put them in general pop.
Pretty sure at least one was charged with assault.
One cop (the one who punched him 16 times in the head during the arrest) was fired. One woman resigned (don't know if she was in the video or had something else to do with it) and the others haven't been punished at all. At least not yet anyway.