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Snoring aids/devices

GameFaceRadio : 4/28/2015 12:30 am
Or, actually, anti-snoring aids/devices.

So much crap on the Internet that it is hard to decipher what is legit and what is not.

Does anyone have any recommendations as to what has worked for them that has EFFECTIVELY (Sheppy) stopped their snoring?

I see mouthpieces that looked like the ones we wore in high school football back in the 80's. You know, boil and bite. Those look scammish to me.

I saw one thing that looked like a Spandex Speedo that you wear on your head for $114.00 for two. $79.99 for one. WTF, man.

I have an appointment to see a doctor as it may be sleep apnea. I have a thick neck for someone my size and weight. Almost 19" for someone 5'11", 215 lbs. My friend has SA and has to wear this crazy, Bane-like contraption that looks awful to wear, but I hear it helps.

Any assistance here would be appreciated as sleep is at a premium for me right now. I've read a hundred articles that say interrupted sleep is far more injurious than most people think.


Gracias.
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outeiroj : 4/28/2015 12:34 am : link
I would wait til after your sleep study. I was diagnosed with obstructive sleep apnea and getting a cpap machine has been the best thing that has ever happened to me. They have different mask setups depending on wether your a mouth breather or not. Since I am not my mask is strictly a nasal mask. It isn't uncomfortable at all and has probably added years to my life.

On that note I would also like to add that other than something along the lines of a deviated septum most snoring is actually obstructive sleep apnea and if you have it, and isn't treated your 5 times more likely to develop a heart condition
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GameFaceRadio : 4/28/2015 12:43 am : link
In comment 12252843 outeiroj said:
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I would wait til after your sleep study. I was diagnosed with obstructive sleep apnea and getting a cpap machine has been the best thing that has ever happened to me. They have different mask setups depending on wether your a mouth breather or not. Since I am not my mask is strictly a nasal mask. It isn't uncomfortable at all and has probably added years to my life.

On that note I would also like to add that other than something along the lines of a deviated septum most snoring is actually obstructive sleep apnea and if you have it, and isn't treated your 5 times more likely to develop a heart condition


Exactly what I've been reading. Not too mention weight gain and irritability. Do you sleep on your back or side and how does the mask/hose set up move with you? Is it free standing or attached to the bed? Curious.
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GameFaceRadio : 4/28/2015 12:44 am : link
In comment 12252843 outeiroj said:
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I would wait til after your sleep study. I was diagnosed with obstructive sleep apnea and getting a cpap machine has been the best thing that has ever happened to me. They have different mask setups depending on wether your a mouth breather or not. Since I am not my mask is strictly a nasal mask. It isn't uncomfortable at all and has probably added years to my life.

On that note I would also like to add that other than something along the lines of a deviated septum most snoring is actually obstructive sleep apnea and if you have it, and isn't treated your 5 times more likely to develop a heart condition


And I'm definitely a mouthbreather. Ask some of the posters here. (smirk)
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outeiroj : 4/28/2015 12:59 am : link
In comment 12252846 GameFaceRadio said:
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In comment 12252843 outeiroj said:


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I would wait til after your sleep study. I was diagnosed with obstructive sleep apnea and getting a cpap machine has been the best thing that has ever happened to me. They have different mask setups depending on wether your a mouth breather or not. Since I am not my mask is strictly a nasal mask. It isn't uncomfortable at all and has probably added years to my life.

On that note I would also like to add that other than something along the lines of a deviated septum most snoring is actually obstructive sleep apnea and if you have it, and isn't treated your 5 times more likely to develop a heart condition



Exactly what I've been reading. Not too mention weight gain and irritability. Do you sleep on your back or side and how does the mask/hose set up move with you? Is it free standing or attached to the bed? Curious.


I sleep on my side, sometimes my left, sometimes my right, and i do toss around however the machine sits on my nightstand and it comes with a 6ft hose. Also on the actual mask setup the hose has a swivel on it. So when I lay down I put the hose above my head on my pillow and it never gets tangled... Also one thing I absolutely love, is I have a machine with a built in humidifier so sleepless nights due to congestion no
Longer exists and I wake up every morning with a ton more energy than before
Do have a brand name you can share?  
GameFaceRadio : 4/28/2015 1:06 am : link
That sounds really promising. My friend has the humidifier also and he loves it. Winter time, especially, as the air is considerably drier with the heat on.

Thanks again for posting.
This is what i use for my snoring/sleep apnea  
Jints in Carolina : 4/28/2015 1:17 am : link
I breathe through my nose and mouth apparently over the course of the night.

http://www.resmed.com/us/en/consumer/products/masks/mirage-quattro.html

http://www.cpap.com/productpage/resmed-s9-autoset-cpap-machine.html

I got these after my sleep study.
also worth noting.....  
Jints in Carolina : 4/28/2015 1:19 am : link
it is a life saver.
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GameFaceRadio : 4/28/2015 1:30 am : link
In comment 12252856 Jints in Carolina said:
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it is a life saver.


Gracias. The reviews on the second device you listed really gave good insight. Did it take a while to get used to or did you fall into REM 4 sleep immediately?

I use a complex but effective solution.  
manh george : 4/28/2015 1:47 am : link
It's expensive, but a lot less trouble than a c-pap for a lot of people.

I wear a custom made mouth appliance. The newest ones are three-d printed out of a hard but flexible material. The problem, other than original cost, is that I need botox injections about 3 times a year to keep my masseter muscles from getting overgrown and causing me to grind and spasm. People with less powerful bites don't need the botox, which is also expensive.


And, the appliance only works with mild to moderate apnea.

Nevertheless, for people like myself who would hate the c-pap machine, they work very well, and are much smaller than old-school appliances.

Dental appliances are catching on well as an alternative for apnea.

This is the one I have. Note how small it is.

Linked is a study....  
manh george : 4/28/2015 1:52 am : link
comparing the two strategies. Bottom line: for mild to moderate apnea, the big questions are cost and comfort. In severe cases, c-pap is the only choice.
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Jints in Carolina : 4/28/2015 1:53 am : link
In comment 12252860 GameFaceRadio said:
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In comment 12252856 Jints in Carolina said:


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it is a life saver.



Gracias. The reviews on the second device you listed really gave good insight. Did it take a while to get used to or did you fall into REM 4 sleep immediately?


took a week or so to get used to it. Now I will not sleep without it.
RE: I use a complex but effective solution.  
GameFaceRadio : 4/28/2015 1:56 am : link
In comment 12252865 manh george said:
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It's expensive, but a lot less trouble than a c-pap for a lot of people.

I wear a custom made mouth appliance. The newest ones are three-d printed out of a hard but flexible material. The problem, other than original cost, is that I need botox injections about 3 times a year to keep my masseter muscles from getting overgrown and causing me to grind and spasm. People with less powerful bites don't need the botox, which is also expensive.


And, the appliance only works with mild to moderate apnea.

Nevertheless, for people like myself who would hate the c-pap machine, they work very well, and are much smaller than old-school appliances.

Dental appliances are catching on well as an alternative for apnea.

This is the one I have. Note how small it is.



Wow! Botox? Shit.

I'm a grinder according to my dentist. Did you get this from your dentist? Do they have to fit you and how long did it take? Is it covered by insurance?

Not being funny here, but is there a drool factor? Not that I would care too much if it actually worked for me. Just curious, again.
Yes, my TMJ/Apnea dentist uses Botox.  
manh george : 4/28/2015 2:03 am : link
I'm a world class grinder. My current dentist at the TMJ/Apnea place says that I have one of the two strongest bites he has ever seen, and the practice includes professional athletes. So, Botox is needed.

Before moving on to Botox, though, you might want to consider a TENS device. That worked for me for a while.

Article on using Botox for TMJ linked.
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No drool.  
manh george : 4/28/2015 2:03 am : link
The injections are very targeted.
RE: I use a complex but effective solution.  
BMac : 4/28/2015 7:40 am : link
In comment 12252865 manh george said:
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It's expensive, but a lot less trouble than a c-pap for a lot of people.

I wear a custom made mouth appliance. The newest ones are three-d printed out of a hard but flexible material. The problem, other than original cost, is that I need botox injections about 3 times a year to keep my masseter muscles from getting overgrown and causing me to grind and spasm. People with less powerful bites don't need the botox, which is also expensive.


And, the appliance only works with mild to moderate apnea.

Nevertheless, for people like myself who would hate the c-pap machine, they work very well, and are much smaller than old-school appliances.

Dental appliances are catching on well as an alternative for apnea.

This is the one I have. Note how small it is.



Mahn, this is the one I use. Note how stylish it is.

My wife has the CPAP machine,  
Montreal Man : 4/28/2015 7:41 am : link
which she is sometimes too lazy to put on. But it's like night and day. After the nights of not wearing it, she wakes up feeling groggy from lack of good sleep.

The mornings after she wears it, she always feels (and is) well rested.

Get the sleep study and take it from there. But the CPAP is a godsend. I had to sleep in another room some nights because her apnea was so noisy it was keeping me from falling asleep
I use a nasal  
I Love Clams Casino : 4/28/2015 8:02 am : link
dilater....a nose insert.....I had borderline sleep apnea diagnosed from my study.....they gave me the machine anyway.....to me it was barely worth the trouble.......with the insert, I am astonished how much better my breathing instantly becomes. The better airflow through my nose negates the need for me to mouth breath. It's mildly uncomfortable, but soooo cheap...Any drug store should have them....no downside....give it a go
Only thing that works  
jeff57 : 4/28/2015 8:48 am : link
if you do have sleep apnea, is the mask.
A few points Game Face  
jjgmrg901 : 4/28/2015 9:07 am : link
I used to have a snoring problem (actually still do)

My first venture was to be checked for sleep apnea which the tests showed I had. Of course I later found out that the place I went was owned by the doctor who suggested I get tested. So please investigate where you are being tested and make sure it's not owned by your doctor.
If you can afford it and your medical covers it, have a second opinion done to confirm your situation. My original doctor went ape after I suggested it.(reason for my wanting second opinion was a co-worker had same problem and a very minor surgery to cutting of his uvula ended his snoring problem)
Finally what actually worked for me best was the purchase of an adjustible bed. By lifting my head up about a 1/2 foot my snoring has been alleviated. When my wife and I travel and don't have the adjustible bed she wears ear plugs.
The adjustable beds are not cheap but are one of the best investments we have ever made. BTW my wife snores also and the slight adjustments help her.

Finally I could not wear one of the CPAP masks because I have a beard but some my friends also swear by it.
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GameFaceRadio : 4/28/2015 9:42 am : link
In comment 12252927 BMac said:
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In comment 12252865 manh george said:


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It's expensive, but a lot less trouble than a c-pap for a lot of people.

I wear a custom made mouth appliance. The newest ones are three-d printed out of a hard but flexible material. The problem, other than original cost, is that I need botox injections about 3 times a year to keep my masseter muscles from getting overgrown and causing me to grind and spasm. People with less powerful bites don't need the botox, which is also expensive.


And, the appliance only works with mild to moderate apnea.

Nevertheless, for people like myself who would hate the c-pap machine, they work very well, and are much smaller than old-school appliances.

Dental appliances are catching on well as an alternative for apnea.

This is the one I have. Note how small it is.





Mahn, this is the one I use. Note how stylish it is.



Does it laugh, too?
RE: A few points Game Face  
GameFaceRadio : 4/28/2015 9:43 am : link
In comment 12253018 jjgmrg901 said:
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I used to have a snoring problem (actually still do)

My first venture was to be checked for sleep apnea which the tests showed I had. Of course I later found out that the place I went was owned by the doctor who suggested I get tested. So please investigate where you are being tested and make sure it's not owned by your doctor.
If you can afford it and your medical covers it, have a second opinion done to confirm your situation. My original doctor went ape after I suggested it.(reason for my wanting second opinion was a co-worker had same problem and a very minor surgery to cutting of his uvula ended his snoring problem)
Finally what actually worked for me best was the purchase of an adjustible bed. By lifting my head up about a 1/2 foot my snoring has been alleviated. When my wife and I travel and don't have the adjustible bed she wears ear plugs.
The adjustable beds are not cheap but are one of the best investments we have ever made. BTW my wife snores also and the slight adjustments help her.

Finally I could not wear one of the CPAP masks because I have a beard but some my friends also swear by it.


Thanks for the heads up! That is some real bullshit by that doctor. I'd break his balls with the State for a good long time on that one. Shady shit, my friend.

Thanks to all that posted. I'll let you know how it goes.
football comment forums not the best place for medical advice. the  
plato : 4/28/2015 11:28 am : link
best example here is the comment about the simple surgery of removing the uvula, which may help snoring some time but fails, as repeatedly demonstrated to deal with the underlying problem of sleep apnea.Its not like kids with huge tonsils an adenoids.

many sleep physicians have their own labs,that's no reason to be suspicious. however second opinion always worthwhile. be sure physicians is board certified in sleep disorder, a sub specialty board. at least you'll know she has been trained and can pass the test every 7 years.

sleep apnea is a very serious problem. frequently but not always it reflects the obesity problem in america, especially in people with a certain configuration of pahrynx.(back of throat) Sleep apnea is a serious cause of day time sleepfulness (dangerous), hypertension, heart failure,sexual dysfunction, and its link with obesity is a cycle where on begets the other. sleep apnea produces obesity and obesity roiduces sleep apnea.Obesity and central weight deposition should/must be controlled.
I was diagnosed  
SwirlingEddie : 4/28/2015 11:41 am : link
with severe obstructive sleep disorder last year with 66 events per hour, or more than one disruption (hypopneas and apneas) per minute! I started on CPAP in December and haven't looked back.

I sleep so much better, feel better while awake and my wife is happier too. I was skeptical at first but as I did more research and learned how many others really are benefiting from the treatment I became a user and now advocate.

Have yourself examined by a good doctor to see what your own situation is. Good luck!
By the way...  
manh george : 4/28/2015 1:09 pm : link
for people who have Apnea combined with a TMJ problem, C-Pap may not work, and may make the TMJ problem worse, because they do not solve the problems with mandibular misallignment, and may contribute to it. That was my situation.

So please ignore the comments that C-Pap is the "only" solution. They are factually incorrect.
Yeah, I'm just gauging others experiences...  
GameFaceRadio : 4/28/2015 1:26 pm : link
Not like I'm gonna let Sheppy take a knife to my uvula.

I wanted to see what people felt worked for them.

CPap seems to be the overwhelming favorite, provided I am diagnosed that way.

My wife is West Indian. I don't want to get stabbed in my sleep.

My snoring is legendary. When my bros and I go away, it's a contest to see who can go to sleep first. Last one to go to sleep aint gettin any sleep.
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