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This Todd Gurley stuff is not going away...

nyjuggernaut2 : 4/30/2015 1:06 pm
So I've been part of BBI for years now (old handle was nyjuggeranut before the BBI hacking incident). I normally don't start too many threads, moreso just chime in here and there but enjoy everything about the site and wanted to share some info.

Shortly after the 2009 draft Jerry Reese visited the church I attend. I started a post on his visit where he made several comments, one of which had to do with the Giants being extremely high on Darius Heyward-Bey. Well, I got talking to the person at my church yesterday who has connections with the Giants and set-up not only Jerry Reese's meeting, but Coach Spags visit as well a year prior to that. He told me how certain people within the organization are "ga-ga" (his words) over Todd Gurley. I asked him if Jerry Reese is one of them, and he said he wasn't sure where Reese stands but the people he knows are high on Gurley and have some influence on the draft selection. I then asked if Gurley is there at #9 and Schreff is too would the pick be Gurley? He responded by saying that if these guys had the final say then it would be Gurley hands down.

He then went on to talk about the philosophy of the organization when drafting in the 1st round and how they look for the best player, even if at times it goes against more crucial need (like OL is this year), and how he wouldn't be shocked if we heard Gurley's name being called when the Giants pick tonight.

Anyway, just wanted to pass along this little bit of info as I know Gurley's name was mentioned on here recently.

Here's hoping whomever we draft has a lengthy, impactful career with Big Blue!
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Thank you  
Headhunter : 4/30/2015 1:08 pm : link
for that
I just  
Old Dirty Beckham : 4/30/2015 1:08 pm : link
cant see them taking that risk with the 9th pick.
Thanks for the contribution.  
SwirlingEddie : 4/30/2015 1:09 pm : link
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Giants trade #9 pick to Cleveland for #12 pick, 3rd and 6th round  
SGMen : 4/30/2015 1:11 pm : link
Giants take Gurley and Miami calls and offers their #1 and #3 for him.

We take OT Peat at #14, DE Preston at #40 and 3 players in round 3 to bring in youth to fix this mess on the lines and defense.

Just hope we get lucky today. I know the trades won't happen - but maybe at least Cleveland will get edgy and offer #12, 3rd round and maybe a safety we can start for our #9! Gotta dream!!!
If his knee checks out...  
Strip-Sack : 4/30/2015 1:11 pm : link
then I could see him being the pick as some people have him as the top player in this draft or top 5, at least. If they truly go BPA and rate him in that area, he absolutely could be the pick...again, assuming the knee checks out.
The playmaker over the guard  
Stupendamatic : 4/30/2015 1:11 pm : link
Sounds like Reese.
Thank you  
UberAlias : 4/30/2015 1:12 pm : link
It should not be a big surprise. Special players are hard to find and not easy to pass up. There are some who see Gurley as that type of player.
interesting  
Matt in SGS : 4/30/2015 1:12 pm : link
thanks for posting.
if gurley  
sshin05 : 4/30/2015 1:13 pm : link
is the BPA, i think u gotta go with that.
I better start watching Gurley videos  
blueblood : 4/30/2015 1:14 pm : link
just in case..
thx for the info  
blapre74 : 4/30/2015 1:15 pm : link
wow reese is a religious man? he better say his prayers that this draft is a success, or he's getting fired. lol. I wanted Gurley in the worst way, until Sy (and other draft gurus) pointed out, this draft is loaded with good to very good backs available in subsequent rounds, some even better than Gurley. btw, I believe the only one who can veto Reese's pick is john mara. This stuff is so exciting, I just hope they use #9 to pick a great player.
Thanks for posting...  
bradshaw44 : 4/30/2015 1:15 pm : link
If they make that pick and his knee goes out year one, and the Giants miss the playoffs, that will be the end of the TC/Reese era. IMO of course.
Thanks jugs!  
Chris in Philly : 4/30/2015 1:16 pm : link
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Clearly Gurley is the BPA  
Headhunter : 4/30/2015 1:17 pm : link
of this draft, better than Williams or anyone else you might choose. The question is does Reese put the future of the franchise in front of his desire to keep his job? Gurley would be a game changer, Scherff & Flowers would be great gets that everyone would be happy with
RE: I better start watching Gurley videos  
njm : 4/30/2015 1:18 pm : link
In comment 12258278 blueblood said:
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just in case..


Actually, you better be reading his medical records.
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arcarsenal : 4/30/2015 1:19 pm : link
Gurley is really, really good. I don't know how his knee is or if he'll get back to 100% but if he does, it's very tempting. He and OBJ would give us 2 of the best skill players in the league.
RE: thx for the info  
Matt in SGS : 4/30/2015 1:19 pm : link
In comment 12258279 blapre74 said:
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wow reese is a religious man? he better say his prayers that this draft is a success, or he's getting fired. lol. I wanted Gurley in the worst way, until Sy (and other draft gurus) pointed out, this draft is loaded with good to very good backs available in subsequent rounds, some even better than Gurley. btw, I believe the only one who can veto Reese's pick is john mara. This stuff is so exciting, I just hope they use #9 to pick a great player.


If John Mara keeps the system the same way that is father did, then Reese is the final say. He might go to Mara for input, and Mara might give it, but ultimately since George Young led the restructuring of the organization, it's the GM's job to make that final call. There have been several instances over the years with both Young and Accorsi that they gave their input to Wellington, and he didn't agree but he also got out of the way and let them do their job.
Well, if the Giants float a Gurley rumor out there I'm betting  
Giants2012 : 4/30/2015 1:19 pm : link
Danny Boy takes him at #5.
apparently, Skins picking Scherff is getting louder  
JonC : 4/30/2015 1:20 pm : link
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Thanks  
AcidTest : 4/30/2015 1:21 pm : link
for the information.

I would be really disappointed if we took Gurley. He's a great player, but it's too much of a risk to take a player who tore his ACL less than a year ago at #9. Mara has also said we have to win now. Taking Gurley is inconsistent with that statement.
I decided to watch some Gurley videos a few days ago  
armstead98 : 4/30/2015 1:21 pm : link
When this rumor first broke I thought, what's all the hype about? Why an injured Gurley over Gordon? Then I watched his college highlights and was blown away. He reminds me of AP in ways that no player has in a long time. The dude is on another level. He runs people over but then he runs away from DBs, he's got it all.

I wouldn't be shocked if the Giants pick him. RB has been undervalued a bit lately, IMO, and the Giants don't shun 1st round talents (see: Wilson, David).

Everything still tells me OL is the pick. Scherff, Flowers or Peat in that order, but if we see a "surprise" tonight I'd be thrilled with Gurley.
good post nyjuggernaut22. I really do not want a RB at #9.  
Victor in CT : 4/30/2015 1:21 pm : link
Especially one coming off ACL surgery.
Several reports out there that Gurley's knee is fine  
Lionhart28 : 4/30/2015 1:22 pm : link
fwiw
Every report I've read is that Gurley  
Headhunter : 4/30/2015 1:22 pm : link
will be playing in week 1
Thanks for that info  
mrvax : 4/30/2015 1:23 pm : link
I wouldn't be too surprised but wonder what that means for Wlliams. I mean he was great in college at rushing and he will improve as the line does, IMO.

It will be a wasted pick IMO if they select Gurley. However, if Gurley is almost as good as Peterson, it will be avery good pick indeed. Eli + Beckham + Gurley = lots of fun!
Wonder if Reese . . . .  
TC : 4/30/2015 1:23 pm : link
has proclaimed him the JPP of RB's yet?
Armstead  
Lionhart28 : 4/30/2015 1:24 pm : link
I took him at 19 for Cleveland in the BBI mock draft. Here were some of my comments:

"I have him listed as a top 3 overall talent in this draft class if his knee checks out. Rare blend of strength and explosivness. Great size and power but can break the long run. He's the best RB I've seen come out of college since Adrian Peterson. Great receiver out of the backfield, a true workhorse, 3-down back. In 2014, 61.9% of his yardage was after contact, rarely fumbles."
i think the giants have a very high performance grade on gurley  
hitdog42 : 4/30/2015 1:24 pm : link
and a very low health grade- which means we wont take him.
Matt  
blapre74 : 4/30/2015 1:25 pm : link
Pardon my ignorance, and I defer, you are correct, but the post did say others in the Giants' organization are ga ga over Gurley. Just a little too much excitement for one day. :)
RE: Giants trade #9 pick to Cleveland for #12 pick, 3rd and 6th round  
Fish : 4/30/2015 1:25 pm : link
In comment 12258267 SGMen said:
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Giants take Gurley and Miami calls and offers their #1 and #3 for him.

We take OT Peat at #14, DE Preston at #40 and 3 players in round 3 to bring in youth to fix this mess on the lines and defense.

Just hope we get lucky today. I know the trades won't happen - but maybe at least Cleveland will get edgy and offer #12, 3rd round and maybe a safety we can start for our #9! Gotta dream!!!


I like it
Gurley was on Mike and Mike this morning  
nygiants16 : 4/30/2015 1:25 pm : link
Polian was on as well and asked him a few questions that he would ask if he was still a gm and he siad Gurley's answers were right on the money, the answers told him how Gurley studies film and understands what opposing teams are trying to do to stop him and how to adjust...

very interesting, Gurley came off very intelligent and a student of the game..

Gurley also said that the goal is to be ready for preseason, there is no talk of taking the year off, he siad he plans to be ready to go for training camp..
Gosh I hope your source is correct.  
RDJR : 4/30/2015 1:25 pm : link
Thanks for the information.
Gurley is doing...  
Chris in Philly : 4/30/2015 1:26 pm : link
a Reddit AMA right now. Someone ask him!
Would Eli + Beckham + Gurley  
mrvax : 4/30/2015 1:27 pm : link
be better than Aikman + Irvin + Smith? The Giants never had a stellar triplet thing going. 2 of 3 at best.
even if Gurey is PUPd  
UConn4523 : 4/30/2015 1:27 pm : link
which I don't see, but lets say it is. We would still have a fresh stable for the first 1/3 of the season or so. I'd be fine with Gurley even though I want a WR. We just need a playmaker period.
That would be a bold move  
bceagle05 : 4/30/2015 1:27 pm : link
and I'd love it. You win with great players.
Thanks for posting this.  
Mr. Bungle : 4/30/2015 1:28 pm : link
I have not held the opinion that Gurley at #9 makes sense for the Giants. But if it happens, well, the Giants know way more about this stuff than I do.
What would you do as a defense with  
mrvax : 4/30/2015 1:29 pm : link
Gurley, Vareen & Beckham onfield? Throw in Randle or a half-assed Cruz and just think what could happen.
RE: Would Eli + Beckham + Gurley  
arcarsenal : 4/30/2015 1:29 pm : link
In comment 12258333 mrvax said:
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be better than Aikman + Irvin + Smith? The Giants never had a stellar triplet thing going. 2 of 3 at best.


Probably not because those Cowboy teams had outstanding OL's and we don't.
Gurley + an OL at #40.  
drkenneth : 4/30/2015 1:30 pm : link
I wouldn't complain.
RE: Would Eli + Beckham + Gurley  
Victor in CT : 4/30/2015 1:31 pm : link
In comment 12258333 mrvax said:
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be better than Aikman + Irvin + Smith? The Giants never had a stellar triplet thing going. 2 of 3 at best.


Do the Giants have the best OL of the decade like that Dallas team did? I don't see NFL Films making a feature show about this OL anytime soon.
RE: RE: Would Eli + Beckham + Gurley  
mrvax : 4/30/2015 1:31 pm : link
In comment 12258344 arcarsenal said:
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Probably not because those Cowboy teams had outstanding OL's and we don't.


One can always pretend.
If they think he's the best guy then they should pick him  
BeerFridge : 4/30/2015 1:32 pm : link
They can get a guard in the second round like Laken Tomlinson or even later.

I'm #TeamScherff and pretty much always have been but I'm also for swinging for the fences if you think it's the right move.
I don't think with those weapons  
Headhunter : 4/30/2015 1:32 pm : link
you need a great Oline. If you can get a Guard like the kid out of Duke or the kid out of Arkansas in the 2nd round, you would have a decent line with arguably 2 of the best weapons in the NFL, not a bad way to go IMO
RE: What would you do as a defense with  
njm : 4/30/2015 1:36 pm : link
In comment 12258342 mrvax said:
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Gurley, Vareen & Beckham onfield?


Sack Eli
I said it last night & I've been saying it for days  
Big Rick in FL : 4/30/2015 1:37 pm : link
I have a gut feeling we will surprise most & take Gurley if he is there. Teams would have to respect our run game which they haven't done in years. Eli woild get his less often & it would open things up for Odell, Cruz, Randle, D. Harris, M. Harris, Donnell & Vereen.

He is the Odell Beckham of this draft IMO. A guy that has a legit shot to be the best player at his position in the entire NFL. You can't say that about any other player in this draft.
There is going to be a 2nd round OL  
nygiants16 : 4/30/2015 1:38 pm : link
where the Giants pick that can step in and play guard...

I think sometimes people forget it is a 7 round draft...

Gurley may end up being the best player in this draft, if Giants feel his knee checks out then it is hard to argue..

Question then becomes do they get rid of Jennings?
RE: RE: What would you do as a defense with  
BigBlueShock : 4/30/2015 1:39 pm : link
In comment 12258361 njm said:
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In comment 12258342 mrvax said:


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Gurley, Vareen & Beckham onfield?



Sack Eli

Overblown.
RE: Gurley + an OL at #40.  
Coach Mason : 4/30/2015 1:40 pm : link
In comment 12258347 drkenneth said:
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I wouldn't complain.


Take Gurley and then take Tomlinson (a pretty close second t0 Scherff IMO at OG) at 40.
I'm fine with this +  
Chris684 : 4/30/2015 1:40 pm : link
Laken Tomlinson or Tre Jackson in the 2nd round.
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