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New York Giants 1st Round Pick: OT Ereck Flowers (Miami)

Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/30/2015 9:05 pm
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RE: No one is ever satisfied  
chris r : 4/30/2015 9:13 pm : link
In comment 12260080 UConn4523 said:
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"Ughh could have picked up a 3rd and still gotten him at 14...". People suck.


Why does that statement mean people suck? He seems like an over draft and a lot of analysts are calling him that.

Pugh is tossing something across the room right now  
illmatic : 4/30/2015 9:13 pm : link
Since Flowers probably plays RT and Pugh moves inside. lol
RE: Our new RT  
B in ALB : 4/30/2015 9:13 pm : link
In comment 12260045 jeff57 said:
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Pugh to guard.


Yeah his pass pro is less than ideal even on the ball side but let's go ahead and pencil him in to replace Pugh. Brilliant analysis.
Get DL in round 2  
Emil : 4/30/2015 9:13 pm : link
and this draft will have already gone a long way to addressing two major areas of need.
Team lives or dies with Eli, glad he will have little more protection  
steve in ky : 4/30/2015 9:13 pm : link
Doing so improves the entire offense
He's only 3 years removed from high school  
Canton : 4/30/2015 9:13 pm : link
He has loads of upside. We are setting up our offensive line for the next 8-10 years with Flowers, Pugh, and Richburg.

I love the pick
Its not a reach pick  
Rflairr : 4/30/2015 9:13 pm : link
The beat writers have been saying for weeks they were high on him
2 questions  
dep026 : 4/30/2015 9:13 pm : link
1. Did Eli call him?
2. Did Mara leave for the Derby yet?
Draft fell exactly the way we didn't want  
Chris L. : 4/30/2015 9:13 pm : link
White and Beasley right before our pick
I think our running game is better from Week 1...  
Dunedin81 : 4/30/2015 9:14 pm : link
There were sexier picks out there, but I think he's a safe player with upside.
RE: RE: Gonna have a nice revisit to this thread when he's starting week 1  
GMenLTS : 4/30/2015 9:14 pm : link
In comment 12260092 chris r said:
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Will you also revisit it if in three years he's a middling guard?


aren't you happy you get to move pugh inside to guard now?
He will start this year  
NYG07 : 4/30/2015 9:14 pm : link
Whether it is at guard or right tackle. Look for DE and S in the next two rounds
RE: Props to Jon C. once again!  
Mason : 4/30/2015 9:14 pm : link
In comment 12260100 yatqb said:
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He called it.


He was calling Peat.
Gurley to Rams.  
RDJR : 4/30/2015 9:14 pm : link
One pick too late.
Pugh/Richburg/Flowers  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 4/30/2015 9:14 pm : link
no one can ever say that Reese doesn't care about the OL again.
Who would you have chosen  
EricJ : 4/30/2015 9:14 pm : link
instead of Flowers?
All the 'trade down' people ask yourselves this  
jcn56 : 4/30/2015 9:14 pm : link
Would you be willing to give up a 2nd or 3rd rounder in this draft to move up a few spots with the guys that are left on the board? I wouldn't want the Giants to do it, maybe there just weren't any takers given the sparsity of blue chip prospects in this one.
RE: RE: Props to Jon C. once again!  
Emil : 4/30/2015 9:15 pm : link
In comment 12260129 Mason said:
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He called it.



He was calling Peat.


He was until last week. Said it would be Flowers. JonC is consistent homerun hitter around here.
When teams rate players do they focus on ...  
Boy Cord : 4/30/2015 9:15 pm : link
... what they can do today or where they will peak?
RE: So now the OL  
T-Bone : 4/30/2015 9:15 pm : link
In comment 12260077 endwerc said:
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is made up of two 1st round picks, two second round picks, and a high-priced FA. No more fucking excuses.


Nice post.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/30/2015 9:15 pm : link
Art Stapleton ‏@art_stapleton 2m2 minutes ago

Jerry Reese on Ereck Flowers : "We think it's all upside with him. Young. Powerful. Tough. He's got a nasty streak."
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RE: All the 'trade down' people ask yourselves this  
bigbluescot : 4/30/2015 9:15 pm : link
In comment 12260138 jcn56 said:
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Would you be willing to give up a 2nd or 3rd rounder in this draft to move up a few spots with the guys that are left on the board? I wouldn't want the Giants to do it, maybe there just weren't any takers given the sparsity of blue chip prospects in this one.


The only possible trade I could see was with the Saints but only if Beasley was on the board. He wasn't.
RE: RE: No one is ever satisfied  
UConn4523 : 4/30/2015 9:15 pm : link
In comment 12260108 chris r said:
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In comment 12260080 UConn4523 said:


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"Ughh could have picked up a 3rd and still gotten him at 14...". People suck.



Why does that statement mean people suck? He seems like an over draft and a lot of analysts are calling him that.


Because the trade down comments are nauseating. It's so tiresome to read on every thread. Is as if the Giants had 7 different offers and chose not to just to make fans upset. ID love to trade down, pick up and extra pick, and still get my guy, but it's not madden.
Gurley should have been the pick  
Carl in CT : 4/30/2015 9:15 pm : link
We will regret this pick for awhile.
Glad it wasn't Gurley, even though he could be fantastic, the next AP.  
yatqb : 4/30/2015 9:16 pm : link
Too much of a risk. Got a young OT who can play LT down the line -- perhaps a Jason Peters in the making.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/30/2015 9:16 pm : link
Art Stapleton ‏@art_stapleton 3m3 minutes ago

Jerry Reese: "Highest guy on our board ... obviously he's a gigantic human being." #NYG
high risk high reward  
Mike in NY : 4/30/2015 9:16 pm : link
has potential to be next Erik Williams
Gurley  
blapre74 : 4/30/2015 9:16 pm : link
to the Rams at #10. The damn Giants couldn't get an Offensive lineman in round 2. I would not be surprised if Gurley is a great runner in this league. damn!
RE: All the 'trade down' people ask yourselves this  
GMenLTS : 4/30/2015 9:16 pm : link
In comment 12260138 jcn56 said:
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Would you be willing to give up a 2nd or 3rd rounder in this draft to move up a few spots with the guys that are left on the board? I wouldn't want the Giants to do it, maybe there just weren't any takers given the sparsity of blue chip prospects in this one.


This fact eludes many a people. Every year.

Osi Osi  
ColHowPepper : 4/30/2015 9:16 pm : link
he doesn't look very quick or nimble playing off the moves of the DE/DT. Obviously, he's a big man, and looks better suited to the running game than PP. Have you seen a lot of film on him
like the pick.  
Amtoft : 4/30/2015 9:16 pm : link
Day 1 starter at RT... kid is a beast and helps fix one of our biggest needs. Hopefully the same people that arent happy with this pick werent happy with OBJ
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/30/2015 9:16 pm : link
Dan Graziano ‏@DanGrazianoESPN 2m2 minutes ago

Jerry Reese mentions Flowers long arms, combine bench press numbers, says he just turned 21, can play either tackle.
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RE: Top 10 you need an impact player  
Mr. Nickels : 4/30/2015 9:16 pm : link
In comment 12260103 Carl in CT said:
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Not sure we got one.


At least we got one last year at 12.
RE: Glad it wasn't Gurley, even though he could be fantastic, the next AP.  
RDJR : 4/30/2015 9:17 pm : link
In comment 12260150 yatqb said:
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Too much of a risk. Got a young OT who can play LT down the line -- perhaps a Jason Peters in the making.


And Flowers isn't a risk?
RE: Its not a reach pick  
UberAlias : 4/30/2015 9:17 pm : link
In comment 12260119 Rflairr said:
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The beat writers have been saying for weeks they were high on him
. Yes but did you ever see any mocks with him going in the too 10 to anyone besides us? No. Because he's not a top 10 talent. He's just the top linemen on their board.
Great...  
M.S. : 4/30/2015 9:17 pm : link
...pick!!!
Haha, thhe mocks said its bad value  
UConn4523 : 4/30/2015 9:18 pm : link
must be true!
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/30/2015 9:18 pm : link
Art Stapleton ‏@art_stapleton 3s4 seconds ago

Jerry Reese says this was the scouting report from Miami coaches on Ereck Flowers: "This guy don't take any crap from anybody.
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This makes a lot of sense  
Headhunter : 4/30/2015 9:18 pm : link
wanted Gurley but maybe I won't have to hear how Eli can not throw from his back. Coughlin calls him an aircraft carrier , strongest guy in the draft, tough guy, quiet guy. You don't draft a guy at 9 not to be a factor
hoping for Davis or brown  
Mike B from JC : 4/30/2015 9:18 pm : link
Or the jones, s from Connecticut. In rd2
RE: ...  
RDJR : 4/30/2015 9:18 pm : link
In comment 12260173 Eric from BBI said:
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Art Stapleton ‏@art_stapleton 3s4 seconds ago

Jerry Reese says this was the scouting report from Miami coaches on Ereck Flowers: "This guy don't take any crap from anybody.
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So what?
was a need pick  
TommyWiseau : 4/30/2015 9:18 pm : link
Basically we pick need in first round and have been doing that for yeara. Wilson, Phillips, OBJ and now Flowers
I think Shaw was pissed  
Rflairr : 4/30/2015 9:18 pm : link
Peat didnt go to the Giants.
Flowers  
Marty866b : 4/30/2015 9:18 pm : link
Very good pick. We needed an offensive lineman. it was ALWAYS going to be either Scherff,Peat or Flowers. Scherff was gone and the Giants went with THEIR next rated o-lineman. Flowers is very young,huge,strong,and plays nasty. He kept Seatrel Henderson,who started as a rookie for the Bills this past season,on the right side because he couldn't beat out Flowers on the left.Beasley and Shelton were bad fits.
Last year, you had posters who thought that you could get another  
Mason : 4/30/2015 9:19 pm : link
receiver as good as Beckham in the 2nd round.

Many of the same posters claiming bad value with Flowers. They are silent on the subject now.
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Micko : 4/30/2015 9:19 pm : link
More offensive lineman please!!! Yes!
RE: Two things convince me that this is a great pick:  
gidiefor : Mod : 4/30/2015 9:19 pm : link
In comment 12260099 Crispino said:
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Mel Kiper and Rich Houston don't like it.
He's gonna be a stud.


LoL ^^^^ This!!!

My thoughts exactly
RE: Haha, thhe mocks said its bad value  
UberAlias : 4/30/2015 9:19 pm : link
In comment 12260172 UConn4523 said:
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must be true!
. Just saying what the consensus is.
Coughlin is happy  
Headhunter : 4/30/2015 9:19 pm : link
camper. Thinks he balances the line
Flowers makes sense  
Matt in SGS : 4/30/2015 9:19 pm : link
the Giants pretty much telegraphed that they were going to go OL this year. If Flowers is green, but talented, remember that the Giants have a history of taking guys high, who aren't quite ready to settle in their main position, and slot them in at guard and let them learn on the field until they can shift over. They did it with Westburg last year, Brian Williams years ago, and Jumbo Elliott and Eric Moore both played at guard before they shifted out.

Flowers can get playing time at guard in the place for where they had John Jerry and you upgrade the talent immediately. And let's face it, I'm not sure the Giants are completely sold on Beatty, who has regressed since he got his extension. Flowers could figure at left tackle in Beatty's place within a year.
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