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Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/1/2015 6:10 pm
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Wouldn't mind the S Collins  
Big Blue '56 : 5/1/2015 6:12 pm : link
here
....  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/1/2015 6:13 pm : link
Looking at Odi, Preston Smith, Eddie Goldman, Carl Davis, Ja'len Collins, Landon Collins.
Goldman, please  
SHO'NUFF : 5/1/2015 6:18 pm : link
but Gregory is intriguing, given the value. Collins would be nice, but I have faith in Berhe.
Gregory  
Andy in Boston : 5/1/2015 6:19 pm : link
is by far the best player available.

A risk....but to get him in the 2nd is in sane.
RE: ....  
Emil : 5/1/2015 6:20 pm : link
In comment 12263410 Eric from BBI said:
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Looking at Odi, Preston Smith, Eddie Goldman, Carl Davis, Ja'len Collins, Landon Collins.


Eric, out of those listed, do you think any of them slip to round 3. Perhaps Davis or Smith? I'm of the opinion that the Giants don't really need 8 draft picks this year and if the chance to move up (either in the 2nd or 3rd) presents itself, they should take it.
Emil  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/1/2015 6:24 pm : link
I'm not a "draft expert"...just a draftnik...you're guess is as good as mine. I wouldn't think any of them would be their in round 3.
O-Line again in the 2nd  
Jimmy Googs : 5/1/2015 6:25 pm : link
and one more time before the last round.
I'd be very happy with  
Ira : 5/1/2015 6:26 pm : link
Erik Kendricks, Landon Collins, Jalen Collins or Randy Gregory.
Collins would be  
Mike B from JC : 5/1/2015 6:27 pm : link
The immediate starter at ss.he is great against the run and has the talent to get better against the pass.It is also a huge need, bigger than dt or de.We already have alot of guys on the dline.Moore,ayers,jpp,eliis,bromley,wynn.Don't want a guy, who's going to sit and not play much. Collins, provides immediate help at a position of need.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/1/2015 6:29 pm : link
Combine the fact that the Giants were terrible up front stopping the run combined with Coughlin's comments yesterday, and I think we are looking at a DL. (and rightfully so...the value should be there too)
RE: ...  
Andy in Boston : 5/1/2015 6:32 pm : link
In comment 12263460 Eric from BBI said:
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Combine the fact that the Giants were terrible up front stopping the run combined with Coughlin's comments yesterday, and I think we are looking at a DL. (and rightfully so...the value should be there too)


agreed....Goldman , Davis , Phillips make a lot of sense.

Preston Smith is a good run stopping DE>...same with Mario Edwards....Za'Darious Smith.
Berhe is essentially the same guy as Collins  
SHO'NUFF : 5/1/2015 6:33 pm : link
We don't have the big body to plug up the middle with Hankins...Bromley is not that guy.
As mentioned previous, Randy Gregory  
Coach Mason : 5/1/2015 6:34 pm : link

Is PURE Value at this point. The caliber of player now outweighs the risk. You are talking about getting perhaps the best pure pass-rusher in this draft at 40.

Will his seemingly genuinely remorseful comments be enough to sway the Giants?

I hope so.
and Kuhn isn't even a consideration,  
SHO'NUFF : 5/1/2015 6:35 pm : link
at this point
Guys that seem to be system fits IMO  
Coach Mason : 5/1/2015 6:35 pm : link

DE Randy Gregory (depending on Giants personal background check could be lower on list)
DE Owamagbe Odighizuwa
DE/DT Preston Smith
DT Carl Davis (load at Senior Bowl)
ILB Benardrick McKinney
CB Ronald Darby
S Erik Rowe
S Quentin Rollins
WR Devin Smith
DE/DT Henry Anderson
WR Chris Conley
WR Jalean Strong
RB Tevin Coleman (David Wilson part II)
give me any of  
ADeP7 : 5/1/2015 6:36 pm : link
Landon collins
Randy gregory
Kendricks
Perryman
Carl davis
Jalen collins
Eddie goldman
Mad Maxx!  
Emlen'sGremlins : 5/1/2015 6:36 pm : link
Time For This Offense To Further Evolve With A Complete TE.
fuck, I forgot about Ellis  
SHO'NUFF : 5/1/2015 6:36 pm : link
ok...let's get Gregory.
i dont see how washington passes on gregory  
ADeP7 : 5/1/2015 6:38 pm : link
And it will piss me off if he lands there
Ali Marpet  
Koldegaard : 5/1/2015 6:38 pm : link
or Kendricks
An attempt to trade up for collins  
hitdog42 : 5/1/2015 6:39 pm : link
Abdullah- fsu dt and Kansas state wr.

I think bbi is much more excited about odi then the Giants- and no Gregory
your probably  
Mike B from JC : 5/1/2015 6:41 pm : link
Right eric, but there is quite a logjam on the dline.It would be hard to get playing time.they are pretty much devoid at safety, no experience and all lower rd. Picks.If they don't take a quality safety early, they won't get a good one.
I think  
Bluesbreaker : 5/1/2015 6:42 pm : link
Eric Rowe is a better fit than Collins but
I would Prefer Goldman or Davis DT to go
along side of Hankins . In round 4 I would
go right back to the Defense with a LB .
If none of them are there in round 2 then
Kenricks would be the guy at #40.
RE: ....  
AcidTest : 5/1/2015 6:43 pm : link
In comment 12263410 Eric from BBI said:
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Looking at Odi, Preston Smith, Eddie Goldman, Carl Davis, Ja'len Collins, Landon Collins.


I think they want to take Collins, but he'll be gone. Raanan was saying Pitt was trying to move up. Wonder if they're targeting Collins since Polamalu is retired. Hitdog also said the Giants might trade up. I hope not. There is plenty of talent left. Let the draft come to us. If anything, trade down. But if they stay put and Collins is gone then I think it will be Goldman or Davis, in that order.
I think  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/1/2015 6:43 pm : link
the Giants would take Jalen Collins before Landon Collins.
With Damontre Moore on the  
Reb8thVA : 5/1/2015 6:44 pm : link
Roster isn't drafting Gregory like drafting the same player.
Mike B from JC  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/1/2015 6:44 pm : link
Football is still won up front.
Guys, don't forget that quiet free agent signing that took  
SHO'NUFF : 5/1/2015 6:46 pm : link
place awhile ago at Giants headquarters: Kenrick Ellis, 6'4", 346 lbs. I mean, we can always use another big body in Goldman, but it's not so much a priority in my mind. If Gregory is there, grab him. Maybe even consider Dorial Green-Beckham.
Based on the fact that they were very interested  
Jon in NYC : 5/1/2015 6:50 pm : link
In Shelton, I think Goldman is the guy if he's available.
Ellis is both  
Jon in NYC : 5/1/2015 6:51 pm : link
Unproven and on a rookie deal. He's far from a sure thing and a long term solution.
I'd be giddy  
Joey in VA : 5/1/2015 6:53 pm : link
With Collins, Odi, Goldman, Rowe and at this point yes even Gregory.

With out history of 2nd round surprises and success, I'm almost thinking it's someone who no one is mentioning. Hankins, Strahan, Osi, Randle, Richburg, Linval Joseph, all guys who have or are panning out and ones no one really had on the radar.
A good young defender please  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 5/1/2015 6:53 pm : link
I'm not going to freak out if it's an offensive player, but I'd really prefer we go D in this round. I think our options are going to be stronger on D than O anyway.

Odi, Carl Davis, and Gregory. Those are the 3 I'd really like. But there are a handful of other defenders in the mix that I'd be cool with as well.

Maxx Williams and Devin Smith. I like both of those guys as offensive weapons in the NFL. I think Maxx will surprise people at the next level who overlooked him because of his lack of elite athleticism, and I think Smith is the type of burner who has serious potential if he learns all the subtleties of becoming a professional receiver. Still... I'd have a hard time taking either of them over one of the D prospects.
Jordan Phillips  
Joey in VA : 5/1/2015 6:55 pm : link
Is intriguing at 6-6 too, he's a very Giant like pick.
OSU  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/1/2015 6:57 pm : link
also has a pretty good DT.
I'll go with Jalen Strong  
Headhunter : 5/1/2015 6:57 pm : link
out of ASU. He looked like to my eye as good as WR as I saw last season
I wonder  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/1/2015 6:59 pm : link
if Eli Harold would fit our scheme. He's a good player.
Definitely Defense  
Rjanyg : 5/1/2015 7:00 pm : link
Prefer front 7 but we need some safety help. Not sure Landon Collins is any better than Berhe. Odi or Goldman. Kendrick's or Perryman would be nice.
RE: I think  
AcidTest : 5/1/2015 7:00 pm : link
In comment 12263496 Eric from BBI said:
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the Giants would take Jalen Collins before Landon Collins.


I hope you're right, but I thought hotdog said Collins was one of the players at the top of their list for this round.
I'm really excited for tonight. We could land two more guys who  
yatqb : 5/1/2015 7:00 pm : link
are eventual starters for us. Let's get two of S, MLB and DT, please.
Gregory would be a remote thrower pick  
A1022 : 5/1/2015 7:01 pm : link
to me. He is NOT a 4-3 DE. His body is maxed out, he doesn't fit our scheme, and he has huge red flags to boot. He can be a very good player in certain schemes, just not ours. Plus I believe another space-eater up front would help out both our DE's and LB's.
Gregory  
Mr. Nickels : 5/1/2015 7:02 pm : link
or Collins

Value!
RE: Ellis is both  
Mr. Bungle : 5/1/2015 7:02 pm : link
In comment 12263510 Jon in NYC said:
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Unproven and on a rookie deal. He's far from a sure thing and a long term solution.

How is Ellis
a) unproven
b) on a rookie deal?
RE: I wonder  
AcidTest : 5/1/2015 7:02 pm : link
In comment 12263533 Eric from BBI said:
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if Eli Harold would fit our scheme. He's a good player.


Very good player. Can bend the arc. But might be best suited for OLB in a 3-4. Not saying he can't be an every down DE, but it's not a given. Even so, he'd be a very good pass rushing DE.
Trade up  
hitdog42 : 5/1/2015 7:02 pm : link
And Collins looks very likely
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/1/2015 7:02 pm : link
I would worry if Trumaine McBride is our best option at nickel corner or a starter if Prince or DRC get hurt again.
hitdog42  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/1/2015 7:03 pm : link
which Collins? There are three of them.
I think  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/1/2015 7:03 pm : link
CB is a bigger need on this team than many realize.
Yes I know eric  
Mike B from JC : 5/1/2015 7:03 pm : link
I am not disagreeing with you, it's just that,they have to stop the pass to.
B as I've said elsewhere unless  
Jay in Toronto : 5/1/2015 7:03 pm : link
Someone really high on their Round 1 casks (like a wr) you have to think they have to give Spags some weapons
Landon  
hitdog42 : 5/1/2015 7:04 pm : link
Eric
Let's see....
RE: Trade up  
Mike in NY : 5/1/2015 7:05 pm : link
In comment 12263546 hitdog42 said:
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And Collins looks very likely


My concern is that we have so many needs to lose picks in a trade unless we trade down later
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/1/2015 7:05 pm : link
Ian Rapoport ‏@RapSheet 46s46 seconds ago

I hear the #Giants are making a huge move to trade up with the #Titans for the No. 33 pick. Being the most aggressive.
98 retweets 31 favorites
TRADE  
Mr. Nickels : 5/1/2015 7:05 pm : link
UP!!
Giants are on the clock!  
Canton : 5/1/2015 7:05 pm : link
Hahaha
Giants are on the clock...  
mikeygiants : 5/1/2015 7:05 pm : link
say what?
Wow!  
yatqb : 5/1/2015 7:05 pm : link
.
Giants are on the clock  
Saos1n : 5/1/2015 7:05 pm : link
Wow
Giants traded up  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 5/1/2015 7:05 pm : link
Wow!
Giants trade!  
Jints in Carolina : 5/1/2015 7:05 pm : link
.
holy cow  
Bake54 : 5/1/2015 7:06 pm : link
they pulled off a trade..on the clock
LANDON  
Jim Burt64 : 5/1/2015 7:06 pm : link
ur up!
Trade  
Joeguido : 5/1/2015 7:06 pm : link
.
Oh wow  
illmatic : 5/1/2015 7:06 pm : link
Here we go. They want someone bad.
whoa  
chopperhatch : 5/1/2015 7:06 pm : link
Ill be happy with Collins here.
So who do  
rebel yell : 5/1/2015 7:06 pm : link
they want so bad?
Hurry!  
Canton : 5/1/2015 7:06 pm : link
Who do they covet!
As posted this morning  
hitdog42 : 5/1/2015 7:06 pm : link
Your welcome
Holy shit!!!!  
Simms11 : 5/1/2015 7:07 pm : link
JR going for it!!!
here we go!!!  
micky : 5/1/2015 7:07 pm : link
.
gAVE UP  
Mr. Nickels : 5/1/2015 7:07 pm : link
A 4 AND 7.

Trade down in rd 3 a bit to get the 4 back
Hate  
AcidTest : 5/1/2015 7:07 pm : link
the idea of trading up.
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/1/2015 7:07 pm : link
Around The NFL ‏@AroundTheNFL 24s24 seconds ago

Tennessee trades pick No. 33 to the New York Giants for the 40th, 108th and 245th picks.
Has to be Collins right?  
RDJR : 5/1/2015 7:07 pm : link
?
Gotta be Landon Collins.  
yatqb : 5/1/2015 7:07 pm : link
.
Please be Kendricks  
sjnyfan : 5/1/2015 7:07 pm : link
.
WOW hitdog nice  
Coach Mason : 5/1/2015 7:07 pm : link
So this is Landon....
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/1/2015 7:08 pm : link
NYG Gets:
#33 overall (2nd round)

TEN Gets:
#40 overall (2nd round)
#108 overall (4th round)
#245 overall (7th round)
Has to be Collins  
Canton : 5/1/2015 7:08 pm : link
Best safety in draft
Has  
Mr. Nickels : 5/1/2015 7:08 pm : link
to be Landon Collins
Im gonna call Landon Collins  
Sy'56 : 5/1/2015 7:08 pm : link
Or Odi.
Collins.  
j_rud : 5/1/2015 7:08 pm : link
Please. Don't overthink this. Perfect intersection of need and value. Don't get cute.
fuck  
SHO'NUFF : 5/1/2015 7:08 pm : link
this is dumb
Collins?  
Simms11 : 5/1/2015 7:08 pm : link
.
It's  
Jay in Toronto : 5/1/2015 7:08 pm : link
Shockey ! Shocking
Collins.  
arcarsenal : 5/1/2015 7:08 pm : link
Take him
Holy Shit  
The 12th Man : 5/1/2015 7:08 pm : link
who is it going to be?
Well  
AcidTest : 5/1/2015 7:08 pm : link
at least the price wasn't that high. I agree we should trade back in the third to get the fourth back. I was afraid we had to give up our third.
im just  
Mr. Nickels : 5/1/2015 7:08 pm : link
glad we still have our pick in rd 3 so the night isnt over already
That seems like a lot  
rebel yell : 5/1/2015 7:09 pm : link
to give up. Must have really wanted whoever......
I'm not thrilled with this move, as there are some fine players at 108  
yatqb : 5/1/2015 7:09 pm : link
.
giving up a 4th...  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 5/1/2015 7:09 pm : link
not sure how I feel about that. We better nail this pick.
So we essentially gave up a 4th  
Simms11 : 5/1/2015 7:09 pm : link
and the extra 7th. Not too bad.
So much for fixing the DLine  
Rjanyg : 5/1/2015 7:09 pm : link
But we need safety help
Gotta be Landon Collins  
Anakim : 5/1/2015 7:09 pm : link
Which would be fantastic value here
Good trade  
BillT : 5/1/2015 7:09 pm : link
Still have our 3rd
Feel like it's going to be Gregory, though.  
arcarsenal : 5/1/2015 7:10 pm : link
.
2nd + 4th + 7th  
Steve in South Jersey : 5/1/2015 7:10 pm : link
for this pick
love this trade  
The 12th Man : 5/1/2015 7:10 pm : link
give up a 4th to me to either get Gregory or Collins it has to be. Maybe another Beckham.
Nice!  
micky : 5/1/2015 7:10 pm : link
.
Landon  
Coach Mason : 5/1/2015 7:11 pm : link
or Gregory
Landon Colin's  
Zebra3 : 5/1/2015 7:11 pm : link
It is
And so it is!  
Canton : 5/1/2015 7:11 pm : link
Collins! Rolles replacement!
as long as it isn't for Duke lol  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 5/1/2015 7:11 pm : link
.
YES  
Mr. Nickels : 5/1/2015 7:11 pm : link
!!
Woo  
illmatic : 5/1/2015 7:11 pm : link
We got Collins. Hell yeah.
Awesome  
Joey in VA : 5/1/2015 7:11 pm : link
I love it
Got their safty, yes!!!!  
Simms11 : 5/1/2015 7:11 pm : link
.
Awesome!  
Dave in Buffalo : 5/1/2015 7:11 pm : link
!
Not crazy about this  
SomeFan : 5/1/2015 7:11 pm : link
move. We got a stiff safety in a passing league and gave up picks for it.
Booooooo!  
sjnyfan : 5/1/2015 7:11 pm : link
!
Excellent  
BillT : 5/1/2015 7:11 pm : link
Strong move
Collins!  
arcarsenal : 5/1/2015 7:11 pm : link
Awesome
But but but...  
mikeygiants : 5/1/2015 7:11 pm : link
I love it.
That is a smart  
rebel yell : 5/1/2015 7:12 pm : link
and solid pick. I like it.
That a boy Jerry!  
RDJR : 5/1/2015 7:12 pm : link
What a different feeling from last night.
Landon Collins  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 5/1/2015 7:12 pm : link
good pick. We needed safety help bad. This kid has similarities to Rolle.
Not liking this move. He's a strong safety  
bigbluescot : 5/1/2015 7:12 pm : link
that's a hell of a lot to give up for a strong safety.
nice move to get this guy  
micky : 5/1/2015 7:12 pm : link
some say he doesn't fit the system..I don't believe it..talented S
Didn't  
AcidTest : 5/1/2015 7:12 pm : link
want him, and certainly don't want him for three picks.
Awesome!!  
ZogZerg : 5/1/2015 7:12 pm : link
Great move Jerry!!
I hate giving up a 4th rounder, but the first pick of day 2  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 5/1/2015 7:12 pm : link
is a REALLY valuable pick.


Giants clearly viewed Collins as a 1st round talent.
Interesting  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 5/1/2015 7:12 pm : link
People were talking about him top 15 so hard to argue with.
He'll fit nicely into  
Stufftherun : 5/1/2015 7:12 pm : link
the # 26 jersey ...
He wasn't going to be there at 40  
Duke : 5/1/2015 7:13 pm : link
We just got better on defense. ..maybe for the next 10 years
I think Spags will utilize him good  
micky : 5/1/2015 7:13 pm : link
.
This perception that Collins is bad in coverage is crazy  
ODBeast : 5/1/2015 7:13 pm : link
He is not elite in pass coverage but he is decent and his tackling and leadership r top notch great pick
Spags wanted someone  
rebel yell : 5/1/2015 7:13 pm : link
to lay the lumber in the box. That's what we need!
nice nice pick  
Bake54 : 5/1/2015 7:13 pm : link
excited about this one....
JERRY You Da man  
Jim Burt64 : 5/1/2015 7:13 pm : link
YOU DA MAN
Best safety  
Mr. Nickels : 5/1/2015 7:14 pm : link
in the draft heavy hitter. I really hope he can be our FS rather than box safety only.

He was mocked to us at 9 as recently as a couple months ago
Not  
AcidTest : 5/1/2015 7:14 pm : link
good enough in pass coverage to justify that kind of move. Wouldn't trust him in the seam against the TEs in this division.
Great pick and a former safety  
Simms11 : 5/1/2015 7:14 pm : link
Making the call of the selection, how ironic is that.
Just  
chopperhatch : 5/1/2015 7:14 pm : link
Replaced Antrel.

And doesnt Spags not differentiate btwn safeties?


Great pick. Filling holes AND adding talent.
Wow!  
Ira : 5/1/2015 7:14 pm : link
A very un-Giant move, but a great one.
RE: Didn't  
Mr. Nickels : 5/1/2015 7:15 pm : link
In comment 12263640 AcidTest said:
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want him, and certainly don't want him for three picks.


The last pick isnt worth much we can regain a pick or 2 by trading down
Love it's, especially keeping their 3rd.  
j_rud : 5/1/2015 7:15 pm : link
Good value, even with the trade, and addresses arguably the biggest need on the team.
He will help our run D too.....  
Simms11 : 5/1/2015 7:15 pm : link
Will he play FS or SS though?
RE: Not  
arcarsenal : 5/1/2015 7:15 pm : link
In comment 12263663 AcidTest said:
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good enough in pass coverage to justify that kind of move. Wouldn't trust him in the seam against the TEs in this division.


He's a SS and he's outstanding in the box. We still need to find our FS but that doesn't mean SS wasn't a huge need. Rolle isn't here anymore. This is how we're replacing him. It's a very good pick.
probably worth a 4 and a 7  
bluepepper : 5/1/2015 7:15 pm : link
to get a guy who not long ago some thought we'd take at 9.
RE: Not  
Emil : 5/1/2015 7:15 pm : link
In comment 12263663 AcidTest said:
Quote:
good enough in pass coverage to justify that kind of move. Wouldn't trust him in the seam against the TEs in this division.


He actually handles TEs pretty well. Would not single him up on a WR though.
OMG  
blapre74 : 5/1/2015 7:15 pm : link
I love this pick! that means the Giants had two firsts, in effect. Mel Kiper came in his pants. Kiper said he thought Collins was top 16. OMG, a damn good move kudos to Jerry Reese.
If The Giants Like Him Enough...  
Jim in Tampa : 5/1/2015 7:15 pm : link
To make this aggressive move and give up 3 picks...then I like him too!
Well You have to say...  
Bluesbreaker : 5/1/2015 7:15 pm : link
This is Great Value and Need I thought they were
looking for free safety . I thought Rowe would be that .
So Far Great Draft !
that's who I wanted  
Mike B from JC : 5/1/2015 7:16 pm : link
He will be another trel.great at run support. 228 lbs and can run.
RE: Just  
Mr. Nickels : 5/1/2015 7:16 pm : link
In comment 12263671 chopperhatch said:
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Replaced Antrel.

And doesnt Spags not differentiate btwn safeties?


Great pick. Filling holes AND adding talent.


Right. That is the best part. Cooper Taylor is more talented than Behre and more experienced so hopefully we start with Collins and Taylor (sounds like our 80s defenses haha).

Either way we have some good young safeties now.

Passing downs he becomes a nickel LB  
Jay in Toronto : 5/1/2015 7:16 pm : link
Mayock stresses he has more range he's given credit for.

I wonder who would have taken him before our 8th pick
Two thumpers....  
Emlen'sGremlins : 5/1/2015 7:16 pm : link
....In The First Two Rounds. Getting Back.To Smash Mouth Football!!
RE: Didn't  
chopperhatch : 5/1/2015 7:17 pm : link
In comment 12263640 AcidTest said:
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want him, and certainly don't want him for three picks.


Duh...we swapped the first one.

Giving up a 4th to take a first round talent....take the slam dunk. Collins is safe as hell
Great move, considering Giants' recent 4th round picks.  
Reese's Pieces : 5/1/2015 7:18 pm : link
Andre Williams, Ryan Nassib, Adrian Robinson, Brandon Mosley, James Brewer, and Phillip Dillard.

Two players drafted who really look like they will stick.
And we didnt give up 3 picks  
dep026 : 5/1/2015 7:18 pm : link
we gave up 2. We moved up 7 spots and gave up a 4th. And with the history of our 4th round picks lately, this isnt a bad thing.
Jay, it sounds like  
JohnF : 5/1/2015 7:18 pm : link
Someone was working on trading up to get him..probably not as high as Tenn. This is a guy the Giants targeted, so they had to pay...but I'll bet it's worth it!
This is akin to a first round pick  
SomeFan : 5/1/2015 7:18 pm : link
based on the trade up.
RE: If The Giants Like Him Enough...  
chopperhatch : 5/1/2015 7:18 pm : link
In comment 12263688 Jim in Tampa said:
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To make this aggressive move and give up 3 picks...then I like him too!


Saying we gave up three picks is such hyperbole. Just stop!

We swapped and gave up a 4th and a 7th.
Trent Dilfer has our back.  
section125 : 5/1/2015 7:19 pm : link
Loved Ereck Flowers last night.

Loves Landon Collins tonight.
If we pick Bevis & Butthead next  
Jim Burt64 : 5/1/2015 7:19 pm : link
This Draft with Flowers & Collins... U just ejaculated
GreaT Move  
pa_giant_fan : 5/1/2015 7:20 pm : link
Spags loves the safety blitz, and he will be used as a dime lb. Spags will use him in a variety of ways. Great pick of value and need.
RE: If The Giants Like Him Enough...  
Simms11 : 5/1/2015 7:21 pm : link
In comment 12263688 Jim in Tampa said:
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To make this aggressive move and give up 3 picks...then I like him too!


Only 2 picks as they swap slots in the 2nd. Additionally, the 7th will probably be the one we got from the Broncos and so in my mind we gave up a 4th and got ourselves another guy who many considered a top 10 talent!
Wow we now have very physicals safeties  
PatersonPlank : 5/1/2015 7:25 pm : link
..
RE: Passing downs he becomes a nickel LB  
Emil : 5/1/2015 7:26 pm : link
In comment 12263696 Jay in Toronto said:
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Mayock stresses he has more range he's given credit for.

I wonder who would have taken him before our 8th pick


The skins needed a safety.
Plus now I can watch the Yanks/Sawx  
section125 : 5/1/2015 7:27 pm : link
until later.
Let's see who falls to us at 74  
Anakim : 5/1/2015 7:28 pm : link
Obviously way too early to say who I want, but I'm looking at the Free Safeties and Kwon Alexander
Sorry Deadskins Fans....  
LeftHook : 5/1/2015 7:28 pm : link

Payback....
I wonder if the team that wanted to trade up  
JohnF : 5/1/2015 7:29 pm : link
were the Steelers? They just lost Troy Polamalu...and here's an article on PFT about them possibly moving up Report: Steelers looking to move up in second round. Collins would have been an attractive target for them.
The  
AcidTest : 5/1/2015 7:31 pm : link
problem isn't the picks, although I would prefer to keep them to create competition. The problem is that we'll miss out on OO, Davis, Goldman, Smith, etc., all of whom can help us up front. None of those players will be available in the third. We desperately need help on the DL. We couldn't stop the run at all last year. His range is decent, but he gets lost in space way too much. His coverage instincts are lacking, especially ten yards past the LOS. I wouldn't pass on those players for someone like Collins.
Jets are having a good draft  
SomeFan : 5/1/2015 7:33 pm : link
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JR. with an aggressive move to get another  
Simms11 : 5/1/2015 7:34 pm : link
1st round talent in the 2nd. I'm really impressed and I really like both picks so far. I always am optimistic with the picks, however, I feel very strongly about these picks. Great job so far... We need to continue to hit home runs though.
Very nice pick  
Rflairr : 5/1/2015 7:34 pm : link
by the Jets
I posted the potential scoop in the wrong thread  
JonC : 5/1/2015 7:34 pm : link
apparently!
RE: The  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 5/1/2015 7:37 pm : link
In comment 12263815 AcidTest said:
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problem isn't the picks, although I would prefer to keep them to create competition. The problem is that we'll miss out on OO, Davis, Goldman, Smith, etc., all of whom can help us up front. None of those players will be available in the third. We desperately need help on the DL. We couldn't stop the run at all last year. His range is decent, but he gets lost in space way too much. His coverage instincts are lacking, especially ten yards past the LOS. I wouldn't pass on those players for someone like Collins.


I disagree in the sense that their inability to stop the run had as much to do (if not more) with the LBs and safeties as the line. The Giants were a good run defense in 2013 and the main place they stood out was on the second level with Hill and Rolle.
Jalen Strong  
Rflairr : 5/1/2015 7:38 pm : link
might fall to the third round
LOL  
illmatic : 5/1/2015 7:41 pm : link
BBI's favorite goes to the Skins. Meltdown incoming.
There  
AcidTest : 5/1/2015 7:41 pm : link
goes Smith to Washington.
.  
Headhunter : 5/1/2015 7:42 pm : link
NFLDraftScout.com's Rob Rang and Dane Brugler: "Better working downhill when he can attack the action, but has shown improvement in pass coverage, learning from past mistakes and improving his awareness in the deep half of the field. Fluid in space and displays cornerback traits with his footwork, hips and transitional quickness to line up in man or zone coverage. At his best reading and reacting in the run game, attacking downhill like a physical missile with the technique and power to finish stops without hesitation."
There goes Preston  
jeff57 : 5/1/2015 7:42 pm : link
Good pick for Washington
Well...  
Emil : 5/1/2015 7:42 pm : link
I was a big fan of Preston Smith, ok with the Giants not getting him, but not ok with the Redskins getting him. Looking forward to the Flowers vs Smith battles. Flowers is bigger.
So Washington got BBI's two favorites, Scherff and Smith.  
yatqb : 5/1/2015 7:42 pm : link
Pretty funny.
That makes me even more glad  
illmatic : 5/1/2015 7:43 pm : link
that they traded up for Collins. Since Smith wouldn't have been there at 40.
Is it posible  
Emil : 5/1/2015 7:43 pm : link
That Odi could last to the 3rd because of the hip? I hear he is not on the Giants radar though.
Im thinking Bears Go  
Saos1n : 5/1/2015 7:43 pm : link
TJ Clemmings here
Good pick by Chicago  
Emil : 5/1/2015 7:44 pm : link
Well done
Got the Goldman pick right  
jeff57 : 5/1/2015 7:44 pm : link
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Nice pick by the Bears  
illmatic : 5/1/2015 7:45 pm : link
I have to say, a lot of teams are drafting really well so far this year. Which seems weird to me. Usually there are some head scratchers by now.
So Giants may have been able to get Odi  
jeff57 : 5/1/2015 7:45 pm : link
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RE: So Giants may have been able to get Odi  
Emil : 5/1/2015 7:46 pm : link
In comment 12263900 jeff57 said:
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Odi's hip must be a concern for a lot of teams. He is the most complete 4-3 DE in this draft. Has to be the hips. He could be there in the 3rd.
Nice pickup by Washington..  
prdave73 : 5/1/2015 7:46 pm : link
Damn.. they are quietly having a good draft.
Goldman  
AcidTest : 5/1/2015 7:47 pm : link
to Chicago. Davis should come off the board very quickly now.
Haha, nice. I had Eddie Goldman slotted to the Bears.  
Anakim : 5/1/2015 7:47 pm : link
Perfect fit. I also had Kevin White to the Bears in the BBI mock.
we could've had D.G-B or Gregory  
SHO'NUFF : 5/1/2015 7:48 pm : link
at this spot...oh well...happy with Collins.
Is that it for  
Bake54 : 5/1/2015 7:48 pm : link
all the Smith players?
RE: Odi  
JonC : 5/1/2015 7:49 pm : link
There's talk he's better suited to 3-4, lack of instincts and range.
RE: we could've had D.G-B or Gregory  
Emil : 5/1/2015 7:49 pm : link
In comment 12263913 SHO'NUFF said:
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at this spot...oh well...happy with Collins.


I think Gregory is a great player, but I don't know where the Giants would play him.
drop Odi drop  
Capt. Don : 5/1/2015 7:49 pm : link
...
Carolina trades up with Rams  
jeff57 : 5/1/2015 7:50 pm : link
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RE: RE: Odi  
Emil : 5/1/2015 7:51 pm : link
In comment 12263916 JonC said:
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There's talk he's better suited to 3-4, lack of instincts and range.


Really? Well I need to go back and reassess my ability to evaluate DEs.

I thought Odi looked great in a three point stance and converted speed to power well. He reminded me of Osi. As always, what do I know.

Thanks JonC, really appreciated your contributions leading up to and throughout the draft.
DGB goes to,Titans  
jeff57 : 5/1/2015 7:51 pm : link
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RE: DGB goes to,Titans  
Anakim : 5/1/2015 7:51 pm : link
In comment 12263929 jeff57 said:
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The true definition of high risk, high reward
DGB  
AcidTest : 5/1/2015 7:52 pm : link
goes to Tennessee. Gregory still out there.
Emil  
JonC : 5/1/2015 7:52 pm : link
Me too, Odi looks a lot like a rookie Tuck to my eye. He's a bit mechanical, but showed ability to play inside and out on the edge.
Bad pick by the Titans  
sjnyfan : 5/1/2015 7:52 pm : link
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DGB with the Giants traded pick  
Steve in South Jersey : 5/1/2015 7:52 pm : link
at 40
No way I would pick  
Rflairr : 5/1/2015 7:53 pm : link
him over Jalen Strong
Math Alert  
Jim in Tampa : 5/1/2015 7:53 pm : link
Even though we got a pick back...yes we actually did give up three picks...a 2nd, 4th and 7th. Not even sure why this is an issue since we all agree that the net loss is two picks.

Love the trade and the pick.
RE: Emil  
Emil : 5/1/2015 7:53 pm : link
In comment 12263934 JonC said:
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Me too, Odi looks a lot like a rookie Tuck to my eye. He's a bit mechanical, but showed ability to play inside and out on the edge.


Do you know what the Giants think of him?
Looking back at past drafts, I came across the 1986 draft  
Reese's Pieces : 5/1/2015 7:54 pm : link
when the Giants had four 2nd round draft choices and five out of the first 53 picks.

They whiffed on the last #2, Greg Lasker at safety, knocked a bloop single with first round pick Eric Dorsey, a four year starter at defensive end. In between they picked Mark Collins, an underrated corner who was an eleven year starter, Pepper Johnson, a ten year starter at linebacker, and Erik Howard, a ten year Giant who came up big in the 2nd Super Bowl season.

First six picks all defense. That's how to turn a defense around, although this is a different era and re-signing three high draft picks after their rookie contracts were up would probably not be possible.
Panthers  
Mr. Nickels : 5/1/2015 7:55 pm : link
should go Jalen Strong here youd think

Then maxx williams is likely to go to either falcons browns or saints
Carolina will probably go Fisher or Clemmings  
jeff57 : 5/1/2015 7:56 pm : link
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RE: RE: Emil  
JonC : 5/1/2015 7:57 pm : link
In comment 12263943 Emil said:
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In comment 12263934 JonC said:


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Me too, Odi looks a lot like a rookie Tuck to my eye. He's a bit mechanical, but showed ability to play inside and out on the edge.



Do you know what the Giants think of him?


Only what I posted at 749. Shite draft for 4-3 DEs. Preston Smith also apparently better suited to 3-4, although the Redskins announced him as a LB!
Now that makes  
Emil : 5/1/2015 7:58 pm : link
very little sense to me. But they now have to huge WRs.
WTF  
Rflairr : 5/1/2015 7:58 pm : link
Futchess over Jalen Strong?
Looking back at how hard it has been for the Giants to use  
Reese's Pieces : 5/1/2015 7:58 pm : link
their middle round picks on good players, give away a fourth to get a player they really believe in.
Bad pick  
jeff57 : 5/1/2015 7:59 pm : link
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Panthers  
Mr. Nickels : 5/1/2015 7:59 pm : link
not very good drafters.

They mustve felt scared by Browns and Saints
Carolina  
AcidTest : 5/1/2015 7:59 pm : link
takes Funchess. Surprised they didn't take Strong.
Trade way up there...  
illmatic : 5/1/2015 7:59 pm : link
for Funchess? There's a surprising pick.
Jalen  
Rflairr : 5/1/2015 7:59 pm : link
injury must be an issue?
Andy  
Mike in NY : 5/1/2015 8:00 pm : link
Has left Halifax and invaded the Panthers draft room
RE: Jalen  
jeff57 : 5/1/2015 8:00 pm : link
In comment 12263981 Rflairr said:
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injury must be an issue?


Off the field stuff
RE: RE: RE: Emil  
Emil : 5/1/2015 8:01 pm : link
In comment 12263963 JonC said:
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In comment 12263943 Emil said:


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In comment 12263934 JonC said:


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Me too, Odi looks a lot like a rookie Tuck to my eye. He's a bit mechanical, but showed ability to play inside and out on the edge.



Do you know what the Giants think of him?



Only what I posted at 749. Shite draft for 4-3 DEs. Preston Smith also apparently better suited to 3-4, although the Redskins announced him as a LB!


Interesting, looks to be the case. Could also explain why the Giants brought in Selvie. Nothing to write home about at 4-3 DE this year. Amazing how this is becoming a hard position to fill. Nothing but tweeners and 3-4 DEs.

Given all that, I bet it is DT in round 3.
Michael Bennett  
Marty866b : 5/1/2015 8:01 pm : link
I'd love to see this guy as our pick in the 3rd round. He's a poor man's Aaron Donald. very disruptive and if anyone has watched a lot of OSU football,you have to love the way this guy plays. He reminds me of a young Cullen Jenkins.
RE: Michael Bennett  
Emil : 5/1/2015 8:02 pm : link
In comment 12263989 Marty866b said:
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I'd love to see this guy as our pick in the 3rd round. He's a poor man's Aaron Donald. very disruptive and if anyone has watched a lot of OSU football,you have to love the way this guy plays. He reminds me of a young Cullen Jenkins.


I really like him too
good value  
Emil : 5/1/2015 8:03 pm : link
for Atlanta
That's  
AcidTest : 5/1/2015 8:04 pm : link
the Collins we should have considered.
man!  
Emil : 5/1/2015 8:06 pm : link
how many LBs does Houston need
The number of commercials is unreal  
jeff57 : 5/1/2015 8:10 pm : link
Making up for last night
looking forward to adding some speed in the back seven or  
RAIN : 5/1/2015 8:13 pm : link
or size inside the next round.
what about  
Koldegaard : 5/1/2015 8:15 pm : link
Paul Dawson from Tcu in the 3rd.
There goes Kendricks  
sjnyfan : 5/1/2015 8:16 pm : link
That was who I wanted
RE: There goes Kendricks  
stillpoe : 5/1/2015 8:22 pm : link
In comment 12264035 sjnyfan said:
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That was who I wanted


I love Kendricks' game and would've loved him for us, but I don't think he fits our LB profile. It's too bad, we could use guys like him.
Who Philly trade up for?  
Rflairr : 5/1/2015 8:23 pm : link
LEt me guess? Fisher from Oregon? lol
Good pick by Eagles  
jeff57 : 5/1/2015 8:24 pm : link
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RE: Looking back at past drafts, I came across the 1986 draft  
ColHowPepper : 5/1/2015 8:24 pm : link
In comment 12263948 Reese's Pieces said:
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when the Giants had four 2nd round draft choices and five out of the first 53 picks.

In between they picked Mark Collins, an underrated corner who was an eleven year starter, Pepper Johnson, a ten year starter at linebacker, and Erik Howard, a ten year Giant who came up big in the 2nd Super Bowl season.

First six picks all defense. That's how to turn a defense around, although this is a different era and re-signing three high draft picks after their rookie contracts were up would probably not be possible.


COL HOW PEPPER COL HOW PEPPER
Chip loves those Pac-12 players  
Emil : 5/1/2015 8:26 pm : link
9 out of 17 draft picks during Kelly's time at Philly.
Rowe had quite the combine  
mikeygiants : 5/1/2015 8:27 pm : link
. Nice pick by Philly.
Nice 2 picks  
Bake54 : 5/1/2015 8:27 pm : link
by the Eagles
They are saying Gregory missed team interviews  
montanagiant : 5/1/2015 8:28 pm : link
Has a history of missing meetings and immaturity
RE: They are saying Gregory missed team interviews  
Emil : 5/1/2015 8:30 pm : link
In comment 12264077 montanagiant said:
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Has a history of missing meetings and immaturity


Well, he would have to fork over his entire rookie salary in fines if he was a Giants. Coughlin's rules would put him in the poor house.
im so sick of people booing Goodell...  
Capt. Don : 5/1/2015 8:31 pm : link
every time he approches the podium. Not bc I love Goodell; its just getting old.
RE: im so sick of people booing Goodell...  
jeff57 : 5/1/2015 8:32 pm : link
In comment 12264083 Capt. Don said:
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every time he approches the podium. Not bc I love Goodell; its just getting old.


Boo
RE: im so sick of people booing Goodell...  
eli4life : 5/1/2015 8:33 pm : link
In comment 12264083 Capt. Don said:
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every time he approches the podium. Not bc I love Goodell; its just getting old.

They should play Seth Rollins music when he comes out
RE: RE: They are saying Gregory missed team interviews  
Fred in Atlanta : 5/1/2015 8:34 pm : link
In comment 12264080 Emil said:
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In comment 12264077 montanagiant said:


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Has a history of missing meetings and immaturity



Well, he would have to fork over his entire rookie salary in fines if he was a Giants. Coughlin's rules would put him in the poor house.


Or he learns quickly to be on time.
Holy shit, Mitch Morse, C Missouri chosen by KC  
montanagiant : 5/1/2015 8:38 pm : link
Looks like he is 38 years old
Great  
AcidTest : 5/1/2015 8:39 pm : link
standing ovation for Kelly. Looks great.
RE: Great  
montanagiant : 5/1/2015 8:39 pm : link
In comment 12264113 AcidTest said:
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standing ovation for Kelly. Looks great.

He truly does
very nice moment  
Capt. Don : 5/1/2015 8:39 pm : link
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RE: im so sick of people booing Goodell...  
santacruzom : 5/1/2015 8:40 pm : link
In comment 12264083 Capt. Don said:
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every time he approches the podium. Not bc I love Goodell; its just getting old.


I'd be all for it but I have a hard time shaking the feeling that a good many of the folks are booing him for silly reasons.
Nice to see the love for Jim Kelly  
Gary from The East End : Admin : 5/1/2015 8:41 pm : link
...
Quentin Rollins maybe in rd 3?  
AcesUp : 5/1/2015 8:41 pm : link
Can play corner or safety. Can potentially be that centerfielder, or if one of our roster holdovers blossom, creates competition and depth at corner.
I'd be very happy with Rollins in 3  
sjnyfan : 5/1/2015 8:43 pm : link
if he lasts.
The fun thing about watching  
Reb8thVA : 5/1/2015 8:43 pm : link
This draft is that we fans base our knowledge of what is a value pick and what isn't on the multitude of mock drafts that circulate before the draft and then the draft happens blowing all those ideas about value out of the water. That Morse pick was case in point.
RE: The fun thing about watching  
Mike in NY : 5/1/2015 8:45 pm : link
In comment 12264130 Reb8thVA said:
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This draft is that we fans base our knowledge of what is a value pick and what isn't on the multitude of mock drafts that circulate before the draft and then the draft happens blowing all those ideas about value out of the water. That Morse pick was case in point.


I got him in Round 5 of BBI Mock Draft
Getting near the point that it might make sense...  
Dan in the Springs : 5/1/2015 8:45 pm : link
to trade up and grab Odi, no?

Wonder why he's slipping so much? Perhaps there is still some medical risk?

There is a serious run on defensive players right now - he can't be expected to last another 10 picks, can he?
RE: Quentin Rollins maybe in rd 3?  
Capt. Don : 5/1/2015 8:46 pm : link
In comment 12264122 AcesUp said:
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Can play corner or safety. Can potentially be that centerfielder, or if one of our roster holdovers blossom, creates competition and depth at corner.


Good call. Im hoping Odi somehow falls.
It's becoming a little more transparent  
AcesUp : 5/1/2015 8:47 pm : link
Morse's name was consistently being brought up as a late riser recently, think it took some time for the consensus to catch up with the idea that the NFL viewed him as a high end c prospect and not a backup tackle prospect.
Players  
AcidTest : 5/1/2015 8:47 pm : link
I'm still surprised are on the board:

Carl Davis.
Max Williams.
Eli Harold.
OO.
Strong.
RE: Getting near the point that it might make sense...  
blueblood : 5/1/2015 8:48 pm : link
In comment 12264137 Dan in the Springs said:
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to trade up and grab Odi, no?

Wonder why he's slipping so much? Perhaps there is still some medical risk?

There is a serious run on defensive players right now - he can't be expected to last another 10 picks, can he?


Maybe he isnt the player everyone is all gaga about..
Abdullah  
hitdog42 : 5/1/2015 8:49 pm : link
If he's there
As per this mrng
RE: Abdullah  
yatqb : 5/1/2015 8:51 pm : link
In comment 12264147 hitdog42 said:
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If he's there
As per this mrng


Wow, that would be a surprise to me, but you've clearly got inside info.
blueblood...  
Dan in the Springs : 5/1/2015 8:52 pm : link
this is probably true.

I always think guys like him get underrated by draft time because they aren't as likely to get sacks in college like the 'tweener speed edge rushers. Yet I think his game translates very well to the NFL and he can be counted on to win his battles enough up front to be a long time starter/contributor to a defensive front seven.

Justin Tuck's sack totals never really stood out - yet we know the kind of player/playmaker he was. Odi strikes me as the same kind of guy.

I must admit I'm just a desk jockey here so what do I know.
Abdullah?  
Marty866b : 5/1/2015 8:53 pm : link
I say no chance. We just signed Vereen.I think we go DL or WR.
RE: Abdullah  
AcidTest : 5/1/2015 8:53 pm : link
In comment 12264147 hitdog42 said:
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If he's there
As per this mrng


Hope not. No love for the defensive line? Going to be a long year. They must be really counting on Ellis and the unproven Bromley to form a nice complement to Hankins. Moore and Ayers are hurt. Wynn is untested. Selvie really a journeyman. JPP came on last year, but he's one player.
Well  
AcidTest : 5/1/2015 8:54 pm : link
it's all moot. He's gone now.
RE: Abdullah  
Mike in NY : 5/1/2015 8:54 pm : link
In comment 12264147 hitdog42 said:
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If he's there
As per this mrng


Guess that means Lockett
Abdullah was just picked  
ZogZerg : 5/1/2015 8:54 pm : link
by Detroit
Surprised  
Rflairr : 5/1/2015 8:55 pm : link
Weldon and AA went before Duke
Should go DL next  
micky : 5/1/2015 8:55 pm : link
pick.
Maxx  
AcidTest : 5/1/2015 8:58 pm : link
Williams to the Ravens.
Maxx Williams  
Mike in NY : 5/1/2015 8:58 pm : link
Taken
Steelers  
Koldegaard : 5/1/2015 8:59 pm : link
Could have Bud Dupree and Randy Gregory. Ouch
Maxx Williams to the Ravens  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 5/1/2015 9:00 pm : link
LOVE this pick. The guy he really reminded me of was Todd Heap.
Odi  
RAIN : 5/1/2015 9:02 pm : link
may be there. He's fairly raw albeit with significant upside. I'm rooting for Carl Davis or Quentin Rollins to be there in the third.

Kikaha to the Saints could be a steal too  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 5/1/2015 9:04 pm : link
that team desperately needed defensive help and Kikaha was simply put a playmaker in college. He's got questions about his game in terms of where he fits, but nothing is stopping this guy from getting to the QB.
RE: Maxx Williams to the Ravens  
Mark from Jersey : 5/1/2015 9:04 pm : link
In comment 12264183 Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy said:
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LOVE this pick. The guy he really reminded me of was Todd Heap.
I agree said Todd heap jr after the pick
I bet Dallas takes Gregory  
Jints in Carolina : 5/1/2015 9:07 pm : link
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Golson is a great pick by the Steelers  
sjnyfan : 5/1/2015 9:07 pm : link
One of the best CBs in the class. His size is what hurt his stock but he has tremendous ball skills and plays the run as well.
Havenstein  
Jay in Toronto : 5/1/2015 9:08 pm : link
Is a surprise and that is from a Badger fan.
I think Dallas takes Odi or  
Rick in Dallas : 5/1/2015 9:08 pm : link
tevin Coleman
Wild to see all these RTs going in the 2nd.  
yatqb : 5/1/2015 9:08 pm : link
Havenstein in the 2nd is a surprise to me, and I like him.
I'm looking at a few players for the Giants in the third  
Anakim : 5/1/2015 9:08 pm : link
In no particular order:

S Quinten Rollins of Miami of Ohio
S Adrian Amos of Penn State
DT Carl Davis of Iowa would be another fantastic value
RB Jay Ajayi of Boise State
RB Tevin Coleman of Indiana
DE Owa Odighizuwa of UCLA
WR Jaelen Strong of Arizona State
DT Michael Bennett of Ohio State
WLB Paul Dawson of TCU


And of course, my guy, WLB Kwon Alexander of LSU. And sure, Randy Gregory.
Hitdog  
Coach Mason : 5/1/2015 9:08 pm : link
In comment 12264147 hitdog42 said:
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If he's there
As per this mrng


You mentioned Lockett too, anyone else?
RE: I bet Dallas takes Gregory  
Anakim : 5/1/2015 9:10 pm : link
In comment 12264200 Jints in Carolina said:
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It does seem very Jerruh-like
RE: I'm looking at a few players for the Giants in the third  
Jay in Toronto : 5/1/2015 9:11 pm : link
In comment 12264206 Anakim said:
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In no particular order:

S Quinten Rollins of Miami of Ohio
S Adrian Amos of Penn State
DT Carl Davis of Iowa would be another fantastic value
RB Jay Ajayi of Boise State
RB Tevin Coleman of Indiana
DE Owa Odighizuwa of UCLA
WR Jaelen Strong of Arizona State
DT Michael Bennett of Ohio State
WLB Paul Dawson of TCU


And of course, my guy, WLB Kwon Alexander of LSU. And sure, Randy Gregory.


Odi, strong, Bennett please
If Odi is still out there  
AcesUp : 5/1/2015 9:12 pm : link
The injury concerns may be a bigger issue than most initially thought.
God  
AcidTest : 5/1/2015 9:12 pm : link
bless you Rick Upchurch. Best wishes.
Jesus, TJ Clemmings is falling  
Anakim : 5/1/2015 9:12 pm : link
Remember he was Mike Mayock's #1 OT coming into the Senior Bowl
I would like  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 5/1/2015 9:13 pm : link
Tyler Locket or Marpet in the third.
What are the odds  
illmatic : 5/1/2015 9:13 pm : link
the Cowboys take Gregory here? lol
RE: RE: I'm looking at a few players for the Giants in the third  
AcidTest : 5/1/2015 9:14 pm : link
In comment 12264213 Jay in Toronto said:
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In comment 12264206 Anakim said:


Quote:


In no particular order:

S Quinten Rollins of Miami of Ohio
S Adrian Amos of Penn State
DT Carl Davis of Iowa would be another fantastic value
RB Jay Ajayi of Boise State
RB Tevin Coleman of Indiana
DE Owa Odighizuwa of UCLA
WR Jaelen Strong of Arizona State
DT Michael Bennett of Ohio State
WLB Paul Dawson of TCU


And of course, my guy, WLB Kwon Alexander of LSU. And sure, Randy Gregory.



Odi, strong, Bennett please


Davis must be slipping because of his bad interviews. Teams may see him as unmotivated. OO must be slipping because teams are leery of his hip.
Carl Davis has the biggest value IMO  
Mason : 5/1/2015 9:14 pm : link
but his interviews were so outrageous. I wonder if the Giants fill out there trenches with him.
Boom. Nailed it.  
illmatic : 5/1/2015 9:14 pm : link
Such a Cowboys style pick. lmao
There  
AcidTest : 5/1/2015 9:14 pm : link
goes Gregory. Very Jerry like.
We called it  
Anakim : 5/1/2015 9:15 pm : link
If that's not a Jerry Jones pick... Honestly, Jerry Jones is so incredibly predictable.
Dallas  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 5/1/2015 9:15 pm : link
Wife beaters and tokers
Players still out there  
Coach Mason : 5/1/2015 9:15 pm : link
S Quinten Rollins
S Adrian Amos Penn State
DT Carl Davis
RB Jay Ajayi Boise State
RB Tevin Coleman Indiana
RB David Johnson
DE Owa Odighizuwa UCLA
WR Jaelen Strong Arizona State
DE/DT Henry Anderson
WR Tyler Lockett
WR Curtis Conley

of fucking course  
ADeP7 : 5/1/2015 9:15 pm : link
Anyboy but the cowboys man
Cowboys take Gregory  
jeff57 : 5/1/2015 9:15 pm : link
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not surprising  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 5/1/2015 9:15 pm : link
I hope KWALL, Marty, and all the others who ripped Gregory end up being correct.
Cowboys don't disappoint  
Mason : 5/1/2015 9:15 pm : link
LOL
Jerry Jones is such a schmuck  
Anakim : 5/1/2015 9:16 pm : link
The guy rued taking Zack Martin over Johnny Manziel
Shit  
MT in Vegas : 5/1/2015 9:16 pm : link
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RE: Boom. Nailed it.  
AcidTest : 5/1/2015 9:16 pm : link
In comment 12264230 illmatic said:
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Such a Cowboys style pick. lmao


Full credit to you. Well done.
I still want to see that Dez Bryant video  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 5/1/2015 9:16 pm : link
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Boys  
Jay in Toronto : 5/1/2015 9:16 pm : link
Will Hill reflux. Should have picked Coleman.
100% certainty  
UberAlias : 5/1/2015 9:17 pm : link
This was going to happen.
If they weren't kinda set at OL, you know they would have traded  
Mason : 5/1/2015 9:17 pm : link
up for Collins. Investigations be damn.
IMO ItS a bad move for Dallas but would have been a good move for us  
Bill L : 5/1/2015 9:17 pm : link
I just like our environment and support system soooo much better
Sorry  
Jay in Toronto : 5/1/2015 9:17 pm : link
Redux
RE: Jesus, TJ Clemmings is falling  
AcidTest : 5/1/2015 9:17 pm : link
In comment 12264218 Anakim said:
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Remember he was Mike Mayock's #1 OT coming into the Senior Bowl


Clemmings has only been an OL for two years, and has a stress fracture in his foot. Sambrillo went before him. Teams are shying away from players with injuries. Wonder if OO is in the same category.
RE: I still want to see that Dez Bryant video  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 5/1/2015 9:18 pm : link
In comment 12264250 Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy said:
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It's in Jerruh's home office safe.
Dez and Randy  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 5/1/2015 9:18 pm : link
made for each other
shit  
chris r : 5/1/2015 9:18 pm : link
I like Gregory.
Fuuuucccck!!!!  
geelabee : 5/1/2015 9:18 pm : link
This pisses me off more then any pick in the draft....mark my words the Cow Pokes just drafted Demarcus Ware again...wish the Giants found a way to move up again...too bad..
Woman beater and pot head bookends.  
Mark from Jersey : 5/1/2015 9:18 pm : link
Stay classy Dallas.
Can you imagine this kid in Dallas  
Rick in Dallas : 5/1/2015 9:19 pm : link
Gregory will need a huge support system like they had for Dez.
RE: I bet Dallas takes Gregory  
Jints in Carolina : 5/1/2015 9:19 pm : link
In comment 12264200 Jints in Carolina said:
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yeah....i nailed it
Am I the only one  
Koldegaard : 5/1/2015 9:19 pm : link
Wanting Paul Dawson with the 3rd round pick.
Randy Gregory, Dez Bryant, Rolondo McClain and Greg Hardy  
Anakim : 5/1/2015 9:19 pm : link
America's Team, my ass
RE: Fuuuucccck!!!!  
Jints in Carolina : 5/1/2015 9:19 pm : link
In comment 12264266 geelabee said:
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This pisses me off more then any pick in the draft....mark my words the Cow Pokes just drafted Demarcus Ware again...wish the Giants found a way to move up again...too bad..


are you fucking kidding me? He is a suspension waiting to happen.
RE: Am I the only one  
Anakim : 5/1/2015 9:20 pm : link
In comment 12264273 Koldegaard said:
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Wanting Paul Dawson with the 3rd round pick.


I'd dig it. Playing wise, he's worth it, but he had an absolutely terrible Combine
we are going to find out how good ereck flowers is now  
nms24 : 5/1/2015 9:20 pm : link
this is such a deal for the cowboys
I don't usually root for  
rebel yell : 5/1/2015 9:21 pm : link
players to fail, but I want to see Gregory fail badly.
RE: Randy Gregory, Dez Bryant, Rolondo McClain and Greg Hardy  
ADeP7 : 5/1/2015 9:22 pm : link
In comment 12264274 Anakim said:
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America's Team, my ass




Josh brent?
That was predictable  
Marty866b : 5/1/2015 9:22 pm : link
Who didn't see that one coming? I say good. Put another knucklehead in their locker room. Did they draft him as a defensive end? I'll be surprised if Gregory is in the NFL in three years. Time will tell.
Randy Gregory looks like...  
Seventh Spiel : 5/1/2015 9:23 pm : link
Samuel L. Jackson's older brother.
That locker room  
Giants31 : 5/1/2015 9:24 pm : link
Is a ticking time bomb. And Dez is on the franchise tag? Yea, that will work out well. Guys like Gregory - with their character issues - kill a team.
RE: Woman beater and pot head bookends.  
SethFromAstoria : 5/1/2015 9:24 pm : link
In comment 12264267 Mark from Jersey said:
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Stay classy Dallas.


There really are people who lump these ttwothings together. Amazing

Nancy Reagan would be thrilled
There goes BBI's boy, Ali Marpet  
Anakim : 5/1/2015 9:24 pm : link
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there goes Marpet  
Mr. Nickels : 5/1/2015 9:24 pm : link
with a trade up
So can we pull out that Nebraska Miami game  
Mason : 5/1/2015 9:25 pm : link
where Flowers abused Gregory?
who thinks we trade down in the third?  
RAIN : 5/1/2015 9:25 pm : link
10 to 1 odds.
Awesome!  
Jim in Tampa : 5/1/2015 9:26 pm : link
No more Ali Marpet threads.
I told  
geemanfan : 5/1/2015 9:26 pm : link
My buddy who is a Cowboys fan that I would bet him Gregory will be the pick in round 2.
I was just thinking about...  
Dan in the Springs : 5/1/2015 9:27 pm : link
how we might get to see Flowers vs. Gregory redux. Hoping to see us run right behind Flowers at Gregory. Something tells me Andre wants the ball going in his direction too.
RE: who thinks we trade down in the third?  
Mr. Nickels : 5/1/2015 9:27 pm : link
In comment 12264316 RAIN said:
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10 to 1 odds.


I hope we do to recoup that 4th or at least add a 5th back
"The 62nd pick in the 2000 NFL Draft..."  
illmatic : 5/1/2015 9:27 pm : link
I love the players announcing picks. They should do it every round. Comedy ensues.
Oh no Marpet.  
Mason : 5/1/2015 9:27 pm : link
He was the inspiration player we were looking to get.
TB is having a good draft  
sjnyfan : 5/1/2015 9:28 pm : link
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Co-sign what Seth said  
AcesUp : 5/1/2015 9:30 pm : link
Gregory's character concerns are with his football character...he may be a head case medicating depression/anxiety with weed. Nowhere near hardy and Bryant. Keep in mind...Winston, accused of rape, has "good football character"
And the Seahawks get another defensive stud  
sjnyfan : 5/1/2015 9:30 pm : link
but they'll have to manage the red flags
Did ESPN stop showing them announce picks  
UberAlias : 5/1/2015 9:30 pm : link
After Dallas?
yes, espn stopped after Dallas  
markky : 5/1/2015 9:31 pm : link
why bother. all Dallas all the time.
There are a lot of quality players  
Boatie Warrant : 5/1/2015 9:34 pm : link
left........I hope Davis or Strong fall to us.
Eli Harold.. c'mon and make it to us!  
RAIN : 5/1/2015 9:34 pm : link
or someone else.
Strong or Johnson!  
Andy in Halifax : 5/1/2015 9:34 pm : link
Either would be great.
gotta think dl or wr here  
CGiants07 : 5/1/2015 9:35 pm : link
..
Some names  
Mr. Nickels : 5/1/2015 9:38 pm : link
WR Jalen Strong
DE Eli Harold
DE Owamagbe Odizaghwa
DT Carl Davis
DT Michael Benett
DE Danielle Hunter
RB Tevin Coleman


I think strong harold or Odi is best value
Tevin Coleman still on the board  
RAIN : 5/1/2015 9:42 pm : link
Jay Ajayi still on the board
Carl Davis still on the board
Eli Harold on the board
Paul Dawson .. you get it.

20/32 on defense last round.

Big run on DB's.
RE: IMO ItS a bad move for Dallas but would have been a good move for us  
SHO'NUFF : 5/1/2015 9:52 pm : link
In comment 12264257 Bill L said:
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I just like our environment and support system soooo much better


yeah, that worked out great for Will Hill.
RE: Co-sign what Seth said  
Mason : 5/1/2015 9:52 pm : link
In comment 12264343 AcesUp said:
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Gregory's character concerns are with his football character...he may be a head case medicating depression/anxiety with weed. Nowhere near hardy and Bryant. Keep in mind...Winston, accused of rape, has "good football character"


Winston was accused, Gregory was caught by police. Also now reports that he was late to interviews.
So Far So Good IMO .....  
Bluesbreaker : 5/1/2015 9:59 pm : link
Davis or Harold lastly gamble on Odi ...
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