Someone was working on trading up to get him..probably not as high as Tenn. This is a guy the Giants targeted, so they had to pay...but I'll bet it's worth it!
To make this aggressive move and give up 3 picks...then I like him too!
Only 2 picks as they swap slots in the 2nd. Additionally, the 7th will probably be the one we got from the Broncos and so in my mind we gave up a 4th and got ourselves another guy who many considered a top 10 talent!
were the Steelers? They just lost Troy Polamalu...and here's an article on PFT about them possibly moving up Report: Steelers looking to move up in second round. Collins would have been an attractive target for them.
problem isn't the picks, although I would prefer to keep them to create competition. The problem is that we'll miss out on OO, Davis, Goldman, Smith, etc., all of whom can help us up front. None of those players will be available in the third. We desperately need help on the DL. We couldn't stop the run at all last year. His range is decent, but he gets lost in space way too much. His coverage instincts are lacking, especially ten yards past the LOS. I wouldn't pass on those players for someone like Collins.
1st round talent in the 2nd. I'm really impressed and I really like both picks so far. I always am optimistic with the picks, however, I feel very strongly about these picks. Great job so far... We need to continue to hit home runs though.
problem isn't the picks, although I would prefer to keep them to create competition. The problem is that we'll miss out on OO, Davis, Goldman, Smith, etc., all of whom can help us up front. None of those players will be available in the third. We desperately need help on the DL. We couldn't stop the run at all last year. His range is decent, but he gets lost in space way too much. His coverage instincts are lacking, especially ten yards past the LOS. I wouldn't pass on those players for someone like Collins.
I disagree in the sense that their inability to stop the run had as much to do (if not more) with the LBs and safeties as the line. The Giants were a good run defense in 2013 and the main place they stood out was on the second level with Hill and Rolle.
NFLDraftScout.com's Rob Rang and Dane Brugler: "Better working downhill when he can attack the action, but has shown improvement in pass coverage, learning from past mistakes and improving his awareness in the deep half of the field. Fluid in space and displays cornerback traits with his footwork, hips and transitional quickness to line up in man or zone coverage. At his best reading and reacting in the run game, attacking downhill like a physical missile with the technique and power to finish stops without hesitation."
I was a big fan of Preston Smith, ok with the Giants not getting him, but not ok with the Redskins getting him. Looking forward to the Flowers vs Smith battles. Flowers is bigger.
So Washington got BBI's two favorites, Scherff and Smith.
Saying we gave up three picks is such hyperbole. Just stop!
We swapped and gave up a 4th and a 7th.
Loves Landon Collins tonight.
Only 2 picks as they swap slots in the 2nd. Additionally, the 7th will probably be the one we got from the Broncos and so in my mind we gave up a 4th and got ourselves another guy who many considered a top 10 talent!
I wonder who would have taken him before our 8th pick
The skins needed a safety.
Payback....
I disagree in the sense that their inability to stop the run had as much to do (if not more) with the LBs and safeties as the line. The Giants were a good run defense in 2013 and the main place they stood out was on the second level with Hill and Rolle.
Odi's hip must be a concern for a lot of teams. He is the most complete 4-3 DE in this draft. Has to be the hips. He could be there in the 3rd.
I think Gregory is a great player, but I don't know where the Giants would play him.
Really? Well I need to go back and reassess my ability to evaluate DEs.
I thought Odi looked great in a three point stance and converted speed to power well. He reminded me of Osi. As always, what do I know.
Thanks JonC, really appreciated your contributions leading up to and throughout the draft.
The true definition of high risk, high reward