Flowers makes the OL deeper and probably better from Day 1. Collins could start from Day 1, with the personnel on the roster I think he very likely will. And Odi makes the DE rotation deeper and if Moore can come on could be part of a very good DE tandem in a year or two.
RE: just saying the guy is a major risk..I would have taken tank johnson Â
Sherff had problems with his knee and a broken leg, and a hamstring at the combine. the more I think about it, the more I'm happy they took Flowers, and not Sherff. not that they had the chance.
In comment 12264793 Rich Houston-NYG-WR-1971 said:
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and everyone here would have been very happy with that one. Plus drafting x2o means giants are not happy with our current pass rusher from texas a&m.
What? Tank Johnson?
And no it doesn't. DaMonster is still very much in the plan. This adds competition and remember, JPP is just signed for this year, as is Ayers and Selvie. You could have DaMonster over the LT and Odighizuwa over the RT as the starting DEs in two years.
dude - what is jerry reese smoking the past 2 years? Â
lmfao. btw Duke johnson was just taken. by the fucking browns. roflmao. get it? the mistake by the lake. poor Browns hey they have to put up with Miami Hurricane fan :)
How he lasted past the middle of the 2nd round is beyond me.
We don't have a fourth round pick due to the Landon Collins trade but in the 5th round I'm hoping we get a quality LB. Someone that can play special teams but has potential to be a starter due to smarts, hard work and good instincts more-so than measurables. Those guys can be found in the 5th round at times.
problem with the pick. Great pick. If he's healthy. But there's a reason why he slid all the way to #74, since many teams probably had a first or at least a second round grade on him. Is it because most teams had a question about his hip? Are the Giants in the minority on that issue?
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Ehhhh, anyone want to tell him he's going to play in NJ? :P
every game that Owa played at UCLA. He was a four-star recruit and had a nice but not great career at UCLA. He hurt a hip and missed an entire season but played really well as a senior. He played left defensive end and always had two defenders against him. He did not have amazing sack numbers but is extremely quick and strong. I think a good third round pick and can probably be taught better pass rush skills.
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problem with the pick. Great pick. If he's healthy. But there's a reason why he slid all the way to #74, since many teams probably had a first or at least a second round grade on him. Is it because most teams had a question about his hip? Are the Giants in the minority on that issue?
Great pick and yes. Injury concerns is the only reason for his fall. But great value in the 3rd. I actually thought he went in the 2nd but I guess they were just showing Kiper's best available board with him on it.
like many here would have been happy to get him @40 and even @33 if the Giants thought he wasn't going to make it to them. Even more ecstatic that they still got him and in between picked up LC. Are you kidding me?
Of course, the fourth round is going to suck now, but if we strike gold with our first three (as I truly believe we have) I can live without the 4th and 7th.
Great, great draft, imo. Sorry to the guys who are just bummed, because you're starting this year out the wrong way. No reason every fan shouldn't be coming out of the draft pumped about their team.
Personally I really have to criticize this pick. Â
Has had surgery on his hip twice and missed the entire 2013 season.
If injuries ruin his career, will we say that Reese was "unlucky" to have another high pick lost to injury or that he didn't learn his lesson from all the other prospects lost to injury?
The good stuff: Ranked 52 and 54 overall by Gil Brandt and Mayock. Projected 2nd round by both.
Harsh criticism of his pass rushing skills, but some think he will be better in the pros.
In comment 12264793 Rich Houston-NYG-WR-1971 said:
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and everyone here would have been very happy with that one. Plus drafting x2o means giants are not happy with our current pass rusher from texas a&m.
Or it fits into the theme of never having enough pass rushers, you know since they took Tuck in 2005 with Strahan and Osi on the team...orrrr insurance against losing JPP.
Yes 11 inch hands. He's a monster. Steal of the draft. After listening to KWALL, Sy & JonC I watched everything I could find. Would have taken him at 9 assuming he was healthy.
RE: Personally I really have to criticize this pick. Â
Has had surgery on his hip twice and missed the entire 2013 season.
If injuries ruin his career, will we say that Reese was "unlucky" to have another high pick lost to injury or that he didn't learn his lesson from all the other prospects lost to injury?
The good stuff: Ranked 52 and 54 overall by Gil Brandt and Mayock. Projected 2nd round by both.
Harsh criticism of his pass rushing skills, but some think he will be better in the pros.
A better pro than collegiate? - ( New Window )
Well obviously if he can't stay healthy, it's a shame, but what lesson is there to be learned? You can draft healthy players (we have) and lost them to career ending injuries. Todd Gurley has a torn ACL and carried a first-round grade. Sam Bradford has a bad shoulder and still went top five.
If it's going to happen, it's going to happen.
And, players with injury histories have also gone on to have full NFL careers. Some of them were Giants.
I definitely think Spags had a lot of say in this one.
But I think it's going to work out well.
You know, every time I think you cant get dumber, you just obliterate my expectations.
The last thing y'all should be listening to are posts by Rich and the shitburger Canes fan.
O2.
What? Tank Johnson?
And no it doesn't. DaMonster is still very much in the plan. This adds competition and remember, JPP is just signed for this year, as is Ayers and Selvie. You could have DaMonster over the LT and Odighizuwa over the RT as the starting DEs in two years.
Shit the Browns fleeced us on Duke Johnson....fxck
Maybe it works out, maybe it doesn't, the Giants need pass rushers regardless of happiness or unhappiness with a current pass rusher.
We don't have a fourth round pick due to the Landon Collins trade but in the 5th round I'm hoping we get a quality LB. Someone that can play special teams but has potential to be a starter due to smarts, hard work and good instincts more-so than measurables. Those guys can be found in the 5th round at times.
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Yeah just like when they drafted Tuck it mean they werent happy with Strahan Osi and Kiwi...
And when the drafted JPP they werent happy with Tuck, Osi and Kiwi....
SLOW LONG EYE ROLL....
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Ehhhh, anyone want to tell him he's going to play in NJ? :P
You forget Ayers age and injury last season. Insurance plus Moore hasn't proven he can be a factor against the run.
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Fair enough O2.
Just remember you play games in NJ.
Great pick and yes. Injury concerns is the only reason for his fall. But great value in the 3rd. I actually thought he went in the 2nd but I guess they were just showing Kiper's best available board with him on it.
Of course, the fourth round is going to suck now, but if we strike gold with our first three (as I truly believe we have) I can live without the 4th and 7th.
Great, great draft, imo. Sorry to the guys who are just bummed, because you're starting this year out the wrong way. No reason every fan shouldn't be coming out of the draft pumped about their team.
If injuries ruin his career, will we say that Reese was "unlucky" to have another high pick lost to injury or that he didn't learn his lesson from all the other prospects lost to injury?
The good stuff: Ranked 52 and 54 overall by Gil Brandt and Mayock. Projected 2nd round by both.
Harsh criticism of his pass rushing skills, but some think he will be better in the pros.
A better pro than collegiate? - ( New Window )
Or it fits into the theme of never having enough pass rushers, you know since they took Tuck in 2005 with Strahan and Osi on the team...orrrr insurance against losing JPP.
Bleacher Report on X2O - ( New Window )
If injuries ruin his career, will we say that Reese was "unlucky" to have another high pick lost to injury or that he didn't learn his lesson from all the other prospects lost to injury?
The good stuff: Ranked 52 and 54 overall by Gil Brandt and Mayock. Projected 2nd round by both.
Harsh criticism of his pass rushing skills, but some think he will be better in the pros.
A better pro than collegiate? - ( New Window )
Well obviously if he can't stay healthy, it's a shame, but what lesson is there to be learned? You can draft healthy players (we have) and lost them to career ending injuries. Todd Gurley has a torn ACL and carried a first-round grade. Sam Bradford has a bad shoulder and still went top five.
If it's going to happen, it's going to happen.
And, players with injury histories have also gone on to have full NFL careers. Some of them were Giants.
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Then Odi in round 3.
You have to believe in your scouts. We will see how it plays out on the field over the next few years, sure. But right now this is a killer draft.
Promise?
he has the name like Kiwanuka and Umenyiora
and he has a gap in his front teeth like Strahan...
YES !!!!