(1) Some players everyone thought would be drafted, won't be drafted at all. In the last few years that included Kevin Reddick and Alvin Bailey.
(2) A lot of players will be drafted that even the knowledgeable fans on BBI will never have even heard of before.
(3) Players with injury and character concerns will start to come off the board. Think Collins goes now in the fourth.
Would like to see a trade down to get extra picks to compete with the back part of this roster, which is so lacking at so many positions. Curious to see if the Giants, who are now the team of "team captains," will take a chance on a player like Josh Shaw, who they did meet, or David Irving, whose workout they attended. Would like a DT, Davison or Walton, and a WR, maybe the Coxson from Stony Brook, who the Giants liked. They also apparently liked Glowinski, who would be a great pickup, but he'll probably be gone by the fifth.
This is an important day. Let's get some players Jerry.
But I am really starting to get sick of the NFL and NFLN for patting themselves on the back for holding the draft in Chicago as if the same thing could never be done in NY.
Bio: Four-year starter and team captain who caught 37 passes for 304 yards (8.2 average) and four touchdowns in 12 games in 2014. Turned 22 this year. 33 3/8-inch arms. 10 3/8-inch hands. 5.04 40-yard dash. 20 bench reps. 30.5-inch vertical. 112-inch broad jump. 4.23 20-yard shuttle.
Evaluation: Not much tape available of him online but during the Senior Bowl, he stood out as a big, strong kid who likes contact, as he finished his runs that week with gusto. Experienced, productive player who is not quick out of his breaks or twitchy; might need to be schemed open in the passing game but is a try-hard guy with solid hands. Level of competition is a concern but has the look of an inline tight end in the NFL; has enough bulk to do it.
Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/sports/nfl/article19840536.html#storylink=cpy
LSU's La'el Collins, back in Baton Rouge to meet with police and undergo a paternity test Monday, is likely to be picked today, per sources.
A paternity test? Interesting use of words. This tells me they are interested in determining the parentage but are not seeking a forensic link to a crime scene. A small distinction, but if I were a cop, I would not use the term paternity test unless my only interest in Collins' DNA was with respect to the child.
A horrible tragedy and you can only hope it sorts out in a way that sounds like justice for the family.
TJ Clemmings OT Pittsburgh
Grady Jarrett DT Clemson
Michael Bennett DT Ohio State
Rashad Greene WR Florida State
Jay Ajayi RB Boise State
Josh Shaw CB Southern California
Adrian Amos FS Penn State
Tre McBride WR William & Mary
Zadarius Smith DE Kentucky
Tre Jackson OG Florida State
Doran Grant CB Ohio State
Cody Prewitt FS Mississippi
Buck Allen RB Southern California
Kwon Alexander OLB LSU
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Lions gave the Eagles a third round pick in 2016 for their 4th rounder this year, WOW PLUS 1 for KElly
In comment 12265954 Rich Houston-NYG-WR-1971 said:
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I am held to higher degree of scrutiny if I make a negative comments in comparison to someone else
Tomlinson was taken in the first round. That's why I thought you were just saying something to get attention. You seem to follow the draft pretty closely so I thought you were aware of that fact. I meant no offense.
I really hope not. Can we please not draft guys with major injuries who have no chance of playing this year? Does he even want to be drafted? ESPN just said he'll be paid $3M from an insurance policy if he isn't.
Dude looks like Kenny Phillips. What am I missing here?
I don't know anything about him but I hit up google and and saw they have his game against Boston College. Two minutes in and he gets beat deep for what should have been a touchdown. Next play he looks tentative stepping up supporting the run and ends up getting swallowed up by a blocker, giving up a long touchdown.
Giants have lead the league in injuries the last two years. So now we're going to draft a CB who tore his ACL less than six months ago? Great. I also read a story which said the damage was much more than a torn ACL.
I agree with someone above (sorry I'm too lazy to look up who)
I would grab La'el Collins. If we could convince him to still play that gives is another 1st rd graded guy (certainly no worse that 2nd round). He could step right in at guard for us.
I know Holliman can't tackle, but you can teach tackling.
If you can teach tackling, why hasn't he learned it after spending four years in a Division 1 football program? Tackling is about form and technique, but it's also about attitude and the will to do it. I'm not saying I wouldn't draft the guy, but I wouldn't draft him based on the assumption that I'm gonna turn him into a good tackler.
He's still out there now and if he's there when we pick in the 5th I'd take him. I think he's much better than a 5th round pick and would be an excellent red zone target. Michigan State always produces good receivers too (with the exception of Charles Rogers)
Obviously his willingness to tackle is something the Giants would learn in interviews. We really don't know if he has the willingness or not. Maybe will never be a great tackler, but even if you can get him to become a solid tackler the ball skills are insane. It's the 5th round. Every single player has flaws.
Jay Ayaji
Cameron Artis Payne
David Cobb
Karlos Williams
Would not mind RB depth in Rd 5!
Ayaji knee is bone on bone. Talent wise he's there in the top 5 in this year's class but read earlier he might go undrafted.
I think he's absolutely worth "a one contract only" pick he can be a real weapon in this league
(1) Some players everyone thought would be drafted, won't be drafted at all. In the last few years that included Kevin Reddick and Alvin Bailey.
(2) A lot of players will be drafted that even the knowledgeable fans on BBI will never have even heard of before.
(3) Players with injury and character concerns will start to come off the board. Think Collins goes now in the fourth.
Would like to see a trade down to get extra picks to compete with the back part of this roster, which is so lacking at so many positions. Curious to see if the Giants, who are now the team of "team captains," will take a chance on a player like Josh Shaw, who they did meet, or David Irving, whose workout they attended. Would like a DT, Davison or Walton, and a WR, maybe the Coxson from Stony Brook, who the Giants liked. They also apparently liked Glowinski, who would be a great pickup, but he'll probably be gone by the fifth.
This is an important day. Let's get some players Jerry.
Not saying they should, but there is a lot of great value left, and do they need to come out of this draft with 6 rookies or 5 that can contribute.
I also think there are going to be quite a few UDRFAs that have a shot at making teams.
LSU's La'el Collins, back in Baton Rouge to meet with police and undergo a paternity test Monday, is likely to be picked today, per sources.
LSU's La'el Collins, back in Baton Rouge to meet with police and undergo a paternity test Monday, is likely to be picked today, per sources.
I would take him or TJ clemmings in a hearbeart. To get a first round grade on a guy now is insane and worth the risks both bring
you have to KNOW Jerrah wants this draft to be held in Jerry world
that will make me vomit, buts its going to happen
Bio: Four-year starter and team captain who caught 37 passes for 304 yards (8.2 average) and four touchdowns in 12 games in 2014. Turned 22 this year. 33 3/8-inch arms. 10 3/8-inch hands. 5.04 40-yard dash. 20 bench reps. 30.5-inch vertical. 112-inch broad jump. 4.23 20-yard shuttle.
Evaluation: Not much tape available of him online but during the Senior Bowl, he stood out as a big, strong kid who likes contact, as he finished his runs that week with gusto. Experienced, productive player who is not quick out of his breaks or twitchy; might need to be schemed open in the passing game but is a try-hard guy with solid hands. Level of competition is a concern but has the look of an inline tight end in the NFL; has enough bulk to do it.
Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/sports/nfl/article19840536.html#storylink=cpy
LSU's La'el Collins, back in Baton Rouge to meet with police and undergo a paternity test Monday, is likely to be picked today, per sources.
A paternity test? Interesting use of words. This tells me they are interested in determining the parentage but are not seeking a forensic link to a crime scene. A small distinction, but if I were a cop, I would not use the term paternity test unless my only interest in Collins' DNA was with respect to the child.
A horrible tragedy and you can only hope it sorts out in a way that sounds like justice for the family.
Until you get to the point of announcing them from someone room on skype. You know it's coming.
Petty looks a little like a younger version of Diehl.
I liked him in the run game friggen battering ram
Grady Jarrett DT Clemson
Michael Bennett DT Ohio State
Rashad Greene WR Florida State
Jay Ajayi RB Boise State
Josh Shaw CB Southern California
Adrian Amos FS Penn State
Tre McBride WR William & Mary
Zadarius Smith DE Kentucky
Tre Jackson OG Florida State
Doran Grant CB Ohio State
Cody Prewitt FS Mississippi
Buck Allen RB Southern California
Kwon Alexander OLB LSU
lol.
Lions gave the Eagles a third round pick in 2016 for their 4th rounder this year, WOW PLUS 1 for KElly
Douglas was a guy I think the Giants visited.
sure they are making a ton of money though at each venue with these venue parties and certainly are with the esplanade format in Chicago.
Are you taunting us?
Also wouldn't mind Ifo Oregon CB, Grady Jarrett or Michael Bennett in the 5th. Ifo was a 1st team all American that is falling because of injuries.
Also wouldn't mind Ifo Oregon CB, Grady Jarrett or Michael Bennett in the 5th. Ifo was a 1st team all American that is falling because of injuries.
Don't want Holliman or Ifo for the reasons you cite. Would be fine with either of the other two.
It's not that, it's that the guy you've been touting was taken on Thursday night.
He went in the 1st round...
Tomlinson was taken in the first round. That's why I thought you were just saying something to get attention. You seem to follow the draft pretty closely so I thought you were aware of that fact. I meant no offense.
I really hope not. Can we please not draft guys with major injuries who have no chance of playing this year? Does he even want to be drafted? ESPN just said he'll be paid $3M from an insurance policy if he isn't.
I don't know anything about him but I hit up google and and saw they have his game against Boston College. Two minutes in and he gets beat deep for what should have been a touchdown. Next play he looks tentative stepping up supporting the run and ends up getting swallowed up by a blocker, giving up a long touchdown.
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Trade a 3rd in a better draft year for a 4th? To Philly?
Detroit doing what they can to NOT win a SB.
Shaw Bell Glowinski off the board this round
I think I would
Cameron Artis Payne
David Cobb
Karlos Williams
Would not mind RB depth in Rd 5!
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Cameron Artis Payne
David Cobb
Karlos Williams
Would not mind RB depth in Rd 5!
Ayaji knee is bone on bone. Talent wise he's there in the top 5 in this year's class but read earlier he might go undrafted.
I think he's absolutely worth "a one contract only" pick he can be a real weapon in this league