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Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/2/2015 11:43 am
Like a bye week.
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Nothing to see here.  
PEEJ : 5/2/2015 11:46 am : link
Go about your business
Fall Bennett and Jarrett. Fall!  
Anakim : 5/2/2015 11:47 am : link
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free safety ?  
hutch33 : 5/2/2015 11:51 am : link
chances we add one in 5 ? maybe trade up in 4 ?
Some  
AcidTest : 5/2/2015 11:51 am : link
thoughts:

(1) Some players everyone thought would be drafted, won't be drafted at all. In the last few years that included Kevin Reddick and Alvin Bailey.

(2) A lot of players will be drafted that even the knowledgeable fans on BBI will never have even heard of before.

(3) Players with injury and character concerns will start to come off the board. Think Collins goes now in the fourth.

Would like to see a trade down to get extra picks to compete with the back part of this roster, which is so lacking at so many positions. Curious to see if the Giants, who are now the team of "team captains," will take a chance on a player like Josh Shaw, who they did meet, or David Irving, whose workout they attended. Would like a DT, Davison or Walton, and a WR, maybe the Coxson from Stony Brook, who the Giants liked. They also apparently liked Glowinski, who would be a great pickup, but he'll probably be gone by the fifth.

This is an important day. Let's get some players Jerry.
If there is a player they are targeting  
Emil : 5/2/2015 11:52 am : link
you think they'd consider packaging a 7th and a 5th to jump into the 4th?

Not saying they should, but there is a lot of great value left, and do they need to come out of this draft with 6 rookies or 5 that can contribute.

I also think there are going to be quite a few UDRFAs that have a shot at making teams.
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/2/2015 11:55 am : link
Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter 3m3 minutes ago

LSU's La'el Collins, back in Baton Rouge to meet with police and undergo a paternity test Monday, is likely to be picked today, per sources.
TE today  
Paulie Walnuts : 5/2/2015 12:02 pm : link
Ben Koyak or the kid from Maryland
I guess i'm feeling a tad provincial this morning  
I Love Clams Casino : 5/2/2015 12:04 pm : link
But I am really starting to get sick of the NFL and NFLN for patting themselves on the back for holding the draft in Chicago as if the same thing could never be done in NY.
Their 5th and 7th  
BillT : 5/2/2015 12:05 pm : link
would move them to end of the 4th. Their 5th and 6th to the lower middle of the 4th.
And the Giants draft Joel Bussert with their fourth round pick  
Anakim : 5/2/2015 12:05 pm : link
A bit old, but he looks swift!
sorry TE I am thinking about is Boyle from Delaware  
Paulie Walnuts : 5/2/2015 12:05 pm : link
6'6 270
That was really nice  
Essex : 5/2/2015 12:06 pm : link
To give that guy credit on national TV like that, I hate goodell, but that was very touching to reward a longtime employee.
that would be quite the exciting pick  
santacruzom : 5/2/2015 12:06 pm : link
as it would prove you can make a pick even without having a pick.
RE: ...  
Essex : 5/2/2015 12:07 pm : link
In comment 12265710 Eric from BBI said:
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Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter 3m3 minutes ago

LSU's La'el Collins, back in Baton Rouge to meet with police and undergo a paternity test Monday, is likely to be picked today, per sources.


I would take him or TJ clemmings in a hearbeart. To get a first round grade on a guy now is insane and worth the risks both bring
Blackson over Gabe Wright?  
Anakim : 5/2/2015 12:10 pm : link
Really?
I know I am biased  
Paulie Walnuts : 5/2/2015 12:10 pm : link
but the Draft should be in Radio City

you have to KNOW Jerrah wants this draft to be held in Jerry world

that will make me vomit, buts its going to happen
I am focusing on this guy for the Giants  
Paulie Walnuts : 5/2/2015 12:11 pm : link
6. Nick Boyle, 6-4, 268, Delaware

Bio: Four-year starter and team captain who caught 37 passes for 304 yards (8.2 average) and four touchdowns in 12 games in 2014. Turned 22 this year. 33 3/8-inch arms. 10 3/8-inch hands. 5.04 40-yard dash. 20 bench reps. 30.5-inch vertical. 112-inch broad jump. 4.23 20-yard shuttle.

Evaluation: Not much tape available of him online but during the Senior Bowl, he stood out as a big, strong kid who likes contact, as he finished his runs that week with gusto. Experienced, productive player who is not quick out of his breaks or twitchy; might need to be schemed open in the passing game but is a try-hard guy with solid hands. Level of competition is a concern but has the look of an inline tight end in the NFL; has enough bulk to do it.

Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/sports/nfl/article19840536.html#storylink=cpy
RE: ...  
DonQuixote : 5/2/2015 12:15 pm : link
In comment 12265710 Eric from BBI said:
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Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter 3m3 minutes ago

LSU's La'el Collins, back in Baton Rouge to meet with police and undergo a paternity test Monday, is likely to be picked today, per sources.


A paternity test? Interesting use of words. This tells me they are interested in determining the parentage but are not seeking a forensic link to a crime scene. A small distinction, but if I were a cop, I would not use the term paternity test unless my only interest in Collins' DNA was with respect to the child.

A horrible tragedy and you can only hope it sorts out in a way that sounds like justice for the family.
Flowers  
AcidTest : 5/2/2015 12:15 pm : link
to the Patriots. Like him a lot.
Wow, so they are announcing picks each team cities  
Mason : 5/2/2015 12:18 pm : link
kinda cool.

Until you get to the point of announcing them from someone room on skype. You know it's coming.
Wow. Bryce Petty to the Jets.  
Anakim : 5/2/2015 12:20 pm : link
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The  
AcidTest : 5/2/2015 12:22 pm : link
Jets are already trying to replace Geno.

Petty looks a little like a younger version of Diehl.
Good pick. I like James Sample a lot  
Anakim : 5/2/2015 12:25 pm : link
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Petty is good. Jets may have their future QB  
Mason : 5/2/2015 12:25 pm : link
They need to rebuild their OL but they are on their way to taking over the AFC East.
Nice pick of Jamison Crowder by the Deadskins  
Anakim : 5/2/2015 12:27 pm : link
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Skins Are Having  
pa_giant_fan : 5/2/2015 12:29 pm : link
A nice draft so far.
And there goes Justin Hardy to the Falcons  
Anakim : 5/2/2015 12:32 pm : link
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is collins viewed as a guard  
Tuckrule : 5/2/2015 12:32 pm : link
or tackle in the NFL
Damn  
Bluesbreaker : 5/2/2015 12:33 pm : link
Titans used our #4 to take Fowler FB Alabama
I liked him in the run game friggen battering ram
There  
AcidTest : 5/2/2015 12:35 pm : link
goes Clemmings to the Vikings. Redshirt year for him.
Some prominent prospects available at #108 (aka the cost of Collins):  
Big Blue Blogger : 5/2/2015 12:35 pm : link
TJ Clemmings OT Pittsburgh
Grady Jarrett DT Clemson
Michael Bennett DT Ohio State
Rashad Greene WR Florida State
Jay Ajayi RB Boise State
Josh Shaw CB Southern California
Adrian Amos FS Penn State
Tre McBride WR William & Mary
Zadarius Smith DE Kentucky
Tre Jackson OG Florida State
Doran Grant CB Ohio State
Cody Prewitt FS Mississippi
Buck Allen RB Southern California
Kwon Alexander OLB LSU
Titans  
Jon in NYC : 5/2/2015 12:36 pm : link
use their extra pick on a fullback.

lol.
Loving the tons of commercials  
Jints in Carolina : 5/2/2015 12:40 pm : link
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New England Gets  
pa_giant_fan : 5/2/2015 12:41 pm : link
G Tre Jackson, The rich get richer
FUCK YOU, LIONS!  
Anakim : 5/2/2015 12:45 pm : link
NFL Draft Diamonds ‏@DraftDiamonds 17s18 seconds ago
Lions gave the Eagles a third round pick in 2016 for their 4th rounder this year, WOW PLUS 1 for KElly
who could we have had with that pick  
SHO'NUFF : 5/2/2015 12:46 pm : link
had we kept it?
Doesn't  
AcidTest : 5/2/2015 12:47 pm : link
Kouandjio have knee problems?

Douglas was a guy I think the Giants visited.
Skins rebuilding that OL  
bradshaw44 : 5/2/2015 12:47 pm : link
The skins under Scotty are going to be a much different team in the next couple of years.
this draft format hopping  
nyynyg : 5/2/2015 1:02 pm : link
from one venue to another spending more time signaling to the person when they can say the pick has reached rock bottom.

sure they are making a ton of money though at each venue with these venue parties and certainly are with the esplanade format in Chicago.
damn josh shaw off the board  
ADeP7 : 5/2/2015 1:03 pm : link
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I wanted Blake Bell  
Mr. Nickels : 5/2/2015 1:03 pm : link
hope we can still get Boyle O Leary or Koyack
There goes Josh Shaw  
PetesHereNow : 5/2/2015 1:04 pm : link
Where's my FS board?
The Rams draft ANOTHER low-graded tackle.  
Big Blue Blogger : 5/2/2015 1:04 pm : link
I guess it could work.
going to see a number of players  
nyynyg : 5/2/2015 1:05 pm : link
we may want go off the board, an entire round is a long time.
Would  
AcidTest : 5/2/2015 1:06 pm : link
have been surprised if Shaw fell to us.
Kurtis Drummond is still out there I believe  
Stupendamatic : 5/2/2015 1:08 pm : link
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I want laken Tomlinson  
Rich Houston-NYG-WR-1971 : 5/2/2015 1:08 pm : link
He is really good
Drummond, Amos, or Eskridge if we're looking safety  
PetesHereNow : 5/2/2015 1:09 pm : link
which I hope we are.
RE: I want laken Tomlinson  
AcidTest : 5/2/2015 1:09 pm : link
In comment 12265925 Rich Houston-NYG-WR-1971 said:
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He is really good


Are you taunting us?
Shaw wasn't falling to us  
Big Rick in FL : 5/2/2015 1:10 pm : link
I know Holliman can't tackle, but you can teach tackling. You can't teach 14 INTs in a season.

Also wouldn't mind Ifo Oregon CB, Grady Jarrett or Michael Bennett in the 5th. Ifo was a 1st team all American that is falling because of injuries.
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