Can't believe it's here folks. It's almost surreal. Maybe a few years later but still. PfP immortality on the line tonight. As is Mayweather and his undefeated record. I really hope it lives up to the hype. Rarely do events like this satisfy the masses.
In rooting for Manny.
HBO is running a pre fight special at 8p.
I don't really understand the background of what makes this match so huge, I guess.
12? 1230?
2.) If Marciano's record is to be broken I'd rather it not be Mayweather whom does it
2.) If Marciano's record is to be broken I'd rather it not be Mayweather whom does it
Mayweather's not a heavyweight so even if Floyd breaks it, it gets an asterisk and Marciano still has the record IMO.
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1.) Mayweather an epic douche
2.) If Marciano's record is to be broken I'd rather it not be Mayweather whom does it
Mayweather's not a heavyweight so even if Floyd breaks it, it gets an asterisk and Marciano still has the record IMO.
I completely agree but good luck telling that to Mayweather
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Yeah he's going to be a top 10 P4P guy at some point.
Time warner is the worst no problem on FIOS
I don't know about that. He no mas'd when SRL boxed and moved.
Lol. No mas
chris. I don't think "Boxing" had much to do with why Duran said no mas.
chris. I don't think "Boxing" had much to do with why Duran said no mas.
He said he had stomach issues, right? Was that generally accepted to be true or an excuse in the aftermath?
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Ah, perfect. Thanks, Jon!
What time is this starting?
What time is this starting?
Around midnight. They need to do their little entrances
Better be worth $99.99
Better be worth $99.99
LOl, if you spend that much you hope it is a good one. I can't justify it myself. I'll wait for the reply and just follow the round by round updates as they are released.
Cinco de Mayo.
Floyd always fights on this weekend because he knows a lot of Mexicans love boxing and will buy his fights.
As much as I want to see Pacqiuao beat the crap out of Mayweather, I just don't see it happening. Floyd is too quick, too skilled defensively, and too good on the counter. Unless Pac knocks him out, Mayweather will dominate the majority of the rounds on points.
And what the hell is the Burger King doing standing behind Mayweather?
Not to mention the Mexicans don't exactly go all out for Cinco de Mayo.
I'm going to try Yahoo sports. They are going to have updates after each round I believe.
From Durans perspective the fight was rigged by King. Leonard judges and reps and large ring. Leonard do not remotely actually box him in the early rounds...he showboated and ran ( imho...and just imho, I always thought Leonard was a necessary creation of a dying sport (temporariy revived by Tysons rise) and slick and over rated...just good enough).
Duran could not do anything with a guy who refuses to engage (and it was not defensive boxing...it was staying the hell away...the ring was too large to corner him and the ropes too loose to the Duran camp) and won by slaps flurries at the last 30 seconds of rounds.
Now was what Leonard did legal and within the rules and perhaps even clever? Absolutely. Was it the way a championship fighter fights? Now in Durans world view. TO him it was chickenshit and rigged by an American entertainer.
No mas was not cowardly. No mas was stupid. but in Durans head ...No Mas was "fuck you I aint playing your game no more"
imho. Awful for Duran. But not a beating or anything SRL should be proud of. Later he fought Duran at Durans alcoholic later years
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Come on PacMan! Nail him hard round 3 and get Mayweather thinking.
everyone.
No way, Manny definitely won 4 and probably won 6 but didn't win rounds 3 or 5 at all
The kentucky derby had more action than this nonsense. BORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINNNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG.
Very disappointing.
I don't think its going to be that comfortable. Maybe a few points.
Winning either 10 or 9 rounds out of 12.
Maybe they can make it the first card of the match to get it over with.
Can't see Floyd giving Manny another fight plus this fight was pretty dull and the buyrates won't be as high
It's just his fighting style is completely terrible to watch no aggression and completely safe
Well by his own admission his goal is to make money, so that's what he's responsible for.
His greatest achievement in the sport is being as rich as he is with as boring a style as he has.
Too dim.
When insulting intelligence, best to get this right.
Is it a prestige thing among the rich an famous to be seen at these events? I don't get it. That fight put me to sleep...I don't care how good the man his, he's boring as hell.
Is it a prestige thing among the rich an famous to be seen at these events? I don't get it. That fight put me to sleep...I don't care how good the man his, he's boring as hell.
People pay to see him lose because he's such an unlikeable guy.
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why do people pay to watch it then?
Is it a prestige thing among the rich an famous to be seen at these events? I don't get it. That fight put me to sleep...I don't care how good the man his, he's boring as hell.
People pay to see him lose because he's such an unlikeable guy.
As he said he enjoys playing the villain because it pays well.
I think Mayweather's defense is insane. But this is why I can't really get into boxing. I don't think defense, no matter how amazing, should be enough. I still think you need to independently do work offensively and land some good power shots and threaten offensively. But that's not how the sport of boxing works. This felt like a game that ended 0-0.
But as much as I hate Floyd, focusing specifically on his defense makes your jaw drop. He seems to have the defensive reflexes of a cat. To be that quick and alert at 38 years old is nuts. It's a testament to how well he's done over the years at not getting hit and worn down.
Aggression should be rated higher in the scoring if they want boxing to hold interest again as a sport in the mainstream. Here's your champion and pound for pound best, and he spends the vast majority of the fight backing up. Given that this was the "fight of the century" (obviously, it's a young century) it doesn't exactly encourage more people to tune in to another one. No wonder younger folks are flocking to watch MMA.
Man, do I miss watching Tyson in his early Cus D. days, when he'd come in and just beat the shit out of opponents. Then Cus died and he lost his compass (and his mind). But his early fights were fun to watch, even when short.
Pac was tentative but at least tried to throw the ball some on a good D, but wanted to avoid the big mistake and couldn't string together enough plays for a scoring drive.
In the end, FM basically won by getting good field position on a bad punt that put him in position to get a 3rd quarter FG that he held on to win.
A boxing clinic. I can't wait to get that gif of a humbled Mike Tyson just in awe of Floyd.
Somewhere, Dana White is smiling
Exactly. Sadly I was hoping this fight would drum up my interest in boxing game, but it turned out just like I thought. Actually it turned out worse than I thought! I am not a Mayweather fan nor Manny fan, but I was hoping to see a decent fight. That was a waste! Now what? IF they have a rematch, who would really want to see it. What was worse for me was listening to the coverage leading up to the main event. It seemed like everyone was trying to hype up boxing and throwing the gaudy numbers out there about how much money this fight was making. As if that was a true indicator of the real interest in the sport. It was like they were begging and pleading with us to be interested in boxing again. I found myself wishing it would turn it to a UFC match so we could get some action; and I don't like UFC at all.
Well as an accountant and a boxing purist I enjoyed it. :)
If it was a heavyweight fight then I would expect type of fight. With guys standing in the middle of the ring laying lumber on each other.
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Floyd is not half the fighter Sugar Ray Robinson was.
A boxing clinic. I can't wait to get that gif of a humbled Mike Tyson just in awe of Floyd.
Tyson didn't say anything about Floyd the boxer. He said he's a coward of a man as evidenced by the fact that he can't go anywhere without five 400 lb men with him and the fact that he beats up women.
Tyson is right.
Floyd fights are not for everybody.
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Floyd is not half the fighter Sugar Ray Robinson was.
A boxing clinic. I can't wait to get that gif of a humbled Mike Tyson just in awe of Floyd.
Tyson didn't say anything about Floyd the boxer. He said he's a coward of a man as evidenced by the fact that he can't go anywhere without five 400 lb men with him and the fact that he beats up women.
Tyson is right.
I don't like Floyd antics but as a boxer I think he is one of the best of his generation.
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Floyd is not half the fighter Sugar Ray Robinson was.
A boxing clinic. I can't wait to get that gif of a humbled Mike Tyson just in awe of Floyd.
Tyson didn't say anything about Floyd the boxer. He said he's a coward of a man as evidenced by the fact that he can't go anywhere without five 400 lb men with him and the fact that he beats up women.
Tyson is right.
I don't like Floyd antics but as a boxer I think he is one of the best of his generation.
He is. My point is that Tyson didn't question that.
Pac was tentative but at least tried to throw the ball some on a good D, but wanted to avoid the big mistake and couldn't string together enough plays for a scoring drive.
In the end, FM basically won by getting good field position on a bad punt that put him in position to get a 3rd quarter FG that he held on to win.
Great analogy pretty accurate
True.
He ducked a lot of guys.
Floyd didn't know Margarito was loading his gloves so its still a duck. Mosley was not in his prime. Paul Williams was not a bum at all and was all wrong for Floyd stylistically. Had the reach advantage, reasonable fast hands and threw a ton of punches.
Chick basketball is more entertaining than Floyd Mayweather boxing matches
Do you know that its not true?
In any case, it was his movement that was the problem.
How is that boxing and why is there no penalty? I can understand the constant moving and timing Mayweather uses and how someone who really understands the sport of boxing could admire that, but boy is it boring The clutching though, that is bullshit.
Overall it would be difficult to think of another major
sporting event that was as boring to watch as the Fight of the Century last night. If I was not watching that match in the presence of other people I think I would have fallen asleep.
i agree a GGG fight would be pretty cool- just not sure that happens. Not a great fight for boxing, and this doesnt deserve a rematch- Cotto deserves one more then Manny.
i agree a GGG fight would be pretty cool- just not sure that happens. Not a great fight for boxing, and this doesnt deserve a rematch- Cotto deserves one more then Manny.
Unfortunately I agree, I don't think Floyd will fight him. Very little incentive other than pride and cementing his legacy. Golovkin would be a pretty big underdog but he stands the best chance of beating Mayweather.
Agreed. EVERYONE was talking about this fight. I never hear people talk about boxing anymore but I heard random women who aren't even into sports talking about it, wanting to watch it, lots of people going to fight parties for it. And then you get to watch that dud of a match after all that hype and the lol worthy "fight of the century" talk? Wow. This was boxing's chance to really garner interest from casual viewers again and both fighters blew it. I have to imagine a bunch of the casuals who wanted to see this won't tune in for a rematch... or any other boxing matches anytime soon.
I don't know if there will be a rematch. Honestly, I really hope there is one. Because after all the backlash from viewers who said how boring and lame this was, I have to imagine both guys will come out swinging to prove a point. Floyd did his usual defensive stuff which is always boring to watch unless you're a boxing purist, and the vast majority aren't. And Manny looked like he just didn't want to risk getting knocked out with the whole world watching. Looked like he was thrilled to go to a decision and lose like that. But yeah, if there's another fight, I think they both actually do something. So I hope it happens.
I also think little incentive for Manny to really go for it when he was making 100m--- the money was absurd for these guys- and i think that played a factor- do you think guys are tapping gloves so nicely when they are fighting for their financial lives.... too much money to really go all out- guaranteed 100m and like 180m or whatever for floyd.
I dont want to see a remach because listening to the manny whine about floyd ... when he is actually fighting how he fight... is just annoying.
Bingo. Manny was actually scared of Floyd's counter punches and was content to wait for Floyd to go into the corner and then advance.
Also, Manny talking about he thought he won the fight shows me he is in a state of denial about his decline.
Agree people were dying for someone to bring it to Mayweather but its simply not true that he hasn't faced it before. Miguel Cotto went at him for 12 rounds and even busted Floyd's nose,that was a battle.
The best fight for fans is easily Mayweather/Golovkin. He'll press him like Cotto and he's a bigger puncher.
It was boring because that's what Floyd does. He doesn't get hit, and he doesn't bring the power because of his weak hands. But I was absolutely in awe while watching him avoid any threat of a Manny flurry.
Maybe a younger more aggressive Manny might've made this a fight. But Manny fought scared and/or old. He needed to win with volume and by coming in and throwing from all different angles. He didn't do that at all. The fact that Manny thought he won was embarrassing, sore loser type stuff.
Mayweather is an asshole. But I also respect the type of boxer he is. He's just so damn smart, quick, and skilled. Overall that was definitely a disappointing fight from an action standpoint, but I blame that more on Manny's side. Manny was the guy who needed to get the action going.
I want no part of a rematch. The fight wasn't exciting and Floyd is clearly the superior boxer.
I'm Manny's biggest fan and I think it's safe to say he at this point in his career is FAR from what he used to be in terms of attacking. The sequence in which he had Floyd on the ropes and inadvertently pulled back (2nd or 3rd round maybe?) was the complete opposite of the Manny most people knew and loved. The knockout against Marquez changed everything... he could take a punch, but he was never going to be that all-out crazy attacker again.
It's easy for me to say because I'm not getting punched in the face, but I wanted to see Manny go out on his shield. As far as him saying he thought he won, boxers say that a lot. JCC said that 2 weeks ago and he quit in the middle of the fight.
I had the fight 116-112 Floyd.
(Lennox Lewis taught the boxing world how to box a smaller man - bully him when he does come inside and keep him at bay with jabs outside).
Floyd was scared to death of him (you could see it in his eyes all night long) because he knew Oscar had a big punch and was fast enough to catch him if he ran.
Instead, Oscar didn't press the issue and Mayweather did enough counter punching and dodging to win on points.
Floyd might still win convincingly 5 years ago, but I think we would see something remotely resembling top-level Pacquiao. Yesterday wasn't that.