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NFT: Mets Minors - Thor Dominates

pjcas18 : 5/3/2015 9:25 am
AAA
Thor: 7I, 4H, 0ER, 2BB, 10k's
Reynolds 1 for 3, 2 BB's

AA
Cessa: 5I, 7H, 1ER, 0BB, 5k's
Cecchini 2 for 3

A+
Conforto 3 for 5 RBI
Rosario 2 for 4
Urena 3 for 4 2 RBI
McNeil 3 for 5 2 RBI

A
becerra
any info on Thor's velocity  
CMicks3110 : 5/3/2015 10:49 am : link
they said his last start he was up to 99.
Also, another general mets related thought  
CMicks3110 : 5/3/2015 10:50 am : link
If it comes time to move on from Wilmer Flores at SS. What do we do with him? Put him on the bench as a utility type player, trade him?
The blurb I read just spoke generally  
pjcas18 : 5/3/2015 10:52 am : link
and said he used a 97 mph fast ball and that's all I read...I'll see if I can find the link
RE: Also, another general mets related thought  
steve in ky : 5/3/2015 10:53 am : link
In comment 12268114 CMicks3110 said:
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If it comes time to move on from Wilmer Flores at SS. What do we do with him? Put him on the bench as a utility type player, trade him?


I think if they determine that you trade him at that point.
Honestly, they need to get Matz and Thor to the big leagues  
Eric on Li : 5/3/2015 10:59 am : link
at this point it's getting a little comical. If Gee doesn't pitch well today I wouldn't waste another start with him, even if they can't find a taker. Put him in the BP and keep him around as an insurance policy in the event they get a rash of injuries.
The Mets have won  
steve in ky : 5/3/2015 11:08 am : link
three of the four games Gee has started with the wins all coming in the last three. The last two starts he went at least seven innings and gave up two and one earned runs respectively. I think they said on one of the telecast he leads the league amongst all pitchers in most current consecutive starts to go at least five inning. Gee hasn't been a problem to this point.
Matz's last 2 starts  
Headhunter : 5/3/2015 11:10 am : link
Thor's last 2 starts

You tell me, what more could you possibly expect? They are as close to ready as any ML pitchers I can think of. Keeping them down there are wasting Major League pitches on Minor Leaguersinstead if on Major Leaguers

My suggestion, the Mets have built a cushion to keep them relevant in case they bring up both and they stumble a bit, you get bold and make room for both.The fan base will tolerate growing pains. The future is now.
RE: The Mets have won  
Eric on Li : 5/3/2015 11:17 am : link
In comment 12268150 steve in ky said:
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three of the four games Gee has started with the wins all coming in the last three. The last two starts he went at least seven innings and gave up two and one earned runs respectively. I think they said on one of the telecast he leads the league amongst all pitchers in most current consecutive starts to go at least five inning. Gee hasn't been a problem to this point.


It's not about Gee's performance anymore. It's about the fact that these 2 guys have JdG level potential and there is just nothing left for them to prove in AAA. Their performances this year at AAA have been better than Harvey's were (never pitched in Vegas) or JdG last year. Throwing high 90's with breaking pitches that should be better once they get out of Vegas.
Relevant stats for reference  
Eric on Li : 5/3/2015 11:19 am : link
JdG 2014 in Vegas - 38 IP / 2.58 ERA / 29K / 1.2 WHIP
Thor 2015 - 21 IP / 1.84 ERA / 31K / 1.0 WHIP
Matz 2015 - 29 IP / 1.66 ERA / 26K / 1.0 WHIP
Sorry your comments seem to imply is was about his performance  
steve in ky : 5/3/2015 11:24 am : link
{quote]If Gee doesn't pitch well today I wouldn't waste another start with him[/quote]

Now if it isn't about Gee's performance then really the question is which is the best way to proceed. Put Gee in the BP which could negatively lower his trade value or try and trade him first in order to make roster space.

Personally I think Niese is the one they should try and move. I trust Gee more at this point.
Have to laugh "the future is now"  
Bob in Newburgh : 5/3/2015 5:42 pm : link
"Granderson / Cuddyear" Some future

Corner ofs - stink defensively
Corner ofs - cannot hit 250
Corner ofs - love to leave men on base
Corner ofs - no power/no speed

Praying for warm weather, although that may not be the problem here,
RE: Have to laugh  
Jim in Fairfax : 5/3/2015 5:53 pm : link
In comment 12268713 Bob in Newburgh said:
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"Granderson / Cuddyear" Some future

Corner ofs - love to leave men on base


Stats with men on base:

Cuddyer:
Avg: .268
OPS: .827

Granderson:
Avg: .381
OPS: .947

Have to laugh..  
arcarsenal : 5/3/2015 6:13 pm : link
...when people just blatantly make shit up.
RE: Sorry your comments seem to imply is was about his performance  
Eric on Li : 5/3/2015 6:32 pm : link
In comment 12268175 steve in ky said:
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{quote]If Gee doesn't pitch well today I wouldn't waste another start with him


Now if it isn't about Gee's performance then really the question is which is the best way to proceed. Put Gee in the BP which could negatively lower his trade value or try and trade him first in order to make roster space.

Personally I think Niese is the one they should try and move. I trust Gee more at this point. [/quote]

It's part of both, obviously it's hard to take out a guy who is going 6+ every fifth day and holding the opposition to 1 or 0 runs. If he does that enough times trading him for something good won't be an issue. But as soon as there's an opportunity to remove him I'd call up Thor.
Eric  
Headhunter : 5/3/2015 6:53 pm : link
I'd call up Matz first
if they keep dominating at triple a sandy  
CGiants07 : 5/3/2015 6:58 pm : link
will move niese or gee until then there stuck
You can not under any circumstance  
Headhunter : 5/3/2015 7:12 pm : link
keep Major League ready pitchers firing bullets in the Minor Leagues. If you believe that a pitcher has only x amount of pitches in his arm over a career, every pitch you throw in AAA could be thrown against say the Cubs. Alderson can not let young talent waste away, he has to do something and buying time is not one of them
we are seeing the best of Niese and Gee right now  
PhiPsi125 : 5/3/2015 7:17 pm : link
and I hope we can move them before they revert back to who they really are. They have been walking a tightrope every game. I have loved their results but its not sustainable and they are going to start getting pounded. Too bad we are wasting their good performances. As good as they both are pitching, I'd easily replace them with Matz/Thor in an instant.
If you don't replace them  
Headhunter : 5/3/2015 7:29 pm : link
you have to trade Matz and Thor. You can't have them pitching for Las Vegas. Sandy Alderson has to break the log jam and he has to do it soon. If every outing going forward Thor and Matz pitch lights out, other teams will know Alderson has no leverage, he has to create openings for the young guys. Niese and Gee are pitching well, move them now for something before you box yourself in Alderson and have to give them away for 10 cents on the dollar
Okay - I will bow to your expertise  
Bob in Newburgh : 5/4/2015 9:57 am : link
Cuddyear and Granderson are great corner OFs that are the envy of the League.

Yes, I made a mistake on a point. Strange how you harped on that point, rather than the point of the post.
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