IF Giants had Signed McCourty, Would the Draft Be Different?

with two virtual unknowns..I don't think the draft would have gone any differently

I think the first three picks would be identical. After that I really do believe that it would be different.

in advance since we are in dire straits at several positions.

this was the most needs-driven draft that I can remember.

so yes, it would have gone differently.

They would not have moved up in the 2nd round but would have hoped for Collins, but taken BPA; would have kept the 4th rounder.

In comment 12268151 Big Blue '56 said:

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with two virtual unknowns..I don't think the draft would have gone any differently

The one thing I think would've gone differently is we probably aren't so aggressive to trade up in round 2. I think they either sit at pick #40 or if Landon Collins slid maybe they move up a couple spots (opposed to all the way up) because they clearly love the kid - but Reese even said considering the safety situation that they felt the right move was to aggressively move up.

Now Collins next to McCourty would have been an awesome tandem when you look at their skillsets - and they are really, really high on Collins obviously, so I think he very well would've been the pick, but likely would've been a little less aggressive in trading up.

IMO they also probably either don't sign Josh Gordy, or only grab 1 safety in the draft (not two). Would've definitely changed our mindset at the position, but doesn't mean we necessarily come away with different players if somehow Collins was still there they take him.

In comment 12268187 Gmen4Life21 said:

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In comment 12268151 Big Blue '56 said: Quote: with two virtual unknowns..I don't think the draft would have gone any differently The one thing I think would've gone differently is we probably aren't so aggressive to trade up in round 2. I think they either sit at pick #40 or if Landon Collins slid maybe they move up a couple spots (opposed to all the way up) because they clearly love the kid - but Reese even said considering the safety situation that they felt the right move was to aggressively move up. Now Collins next to McCourty would have been an awesome tandem when you look at their skillsets - and they are really, really high on Collins obviously, so I think he very well would've been the pick, but likely would've been a little less aggressive in trading up. IMO they also probably either don't sign Josh Gordy, or only grab 1 safety in the draft (not two). Would've definitely changed our mindset at the position, but doesn't mean we necessarily come away with different players if somehow Collins was still there they take him.

Except there was a lot of talk that the Steelers were hot on the heels of Collins..A few other teams supposedly were as well..We couldn't take the chance imo

They said they had a couple of guys they wanted there. They would have gone in a different directions for sure.

We probably do not sign a bunch of FA LB's so we stand pat at 40 and take one of the available LB's

I'm looking at the next big need meets value in Maxx Williams. Give Eli his security blanket and a guy that would take pressure of the long game and running game. And a guy who grew up a Giants fan and likely wouldn't walk if he recv'd better offers at the end of his contract.

60 receptions 6 tds first year.

They still would have went hard after Collins.

of course the draft picks would have been different....and probably would have still had our #4, but Based on Reese's picks the third day, so what....

we didnt sign mccourty. That was waaaay too much $$$ for him. I see plenty of Pats football + He isnt that kind of player IMO

to say, but my gut says yeah, if they had McCourty they weren't trading a 4th round pick to move up and take Collins.

If he happened to fall to them in the 2nd they might have still taken him, but I don't see them trading up to do it.

"Or not since Reese and the FO continually hold onto the notion they only select BPA?"

Both Reese and Ross have said repeatedly that the Giants factor in need in addition to BPA when making their selection. Unless the next player available is all-world (e.g. Lawrence Taylor), need is a component, and rightly so IMO.

would be a big step forward defensively.

Landon Collins @31.

But I don't see them giving up a 4th to move up for Collins had McCourty signed. The need for a safety would not have been as great.

In comment 12269477 Beer Man said:

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But I don't see them giving up a 4th to move up for Collins had McCourty signed. The need for a safety would not have been as great.

agree