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NFT: Natsat Mets Game 4

ZGiants98 : 5/3/2015 1:12 pm
Mets

Curtis Granderson, RF

Juan Lagares, CF

Lucas Duda, 1B

Michael Cuddyer, LF

Daniel Murphy, 3B

Kevin Plawecki, C

Ruben Tejada, SS

Dilson Herrera, 2B

Dillon Gee, RHP

Nationals

Denard Span, CF

Yunel Escobar, 3B

Jayson Werth, LF

Bryce Harper, RF

Ryan Zimmerman, 1B

Ian Desmond, SS

Danny Espinosa, 2B

Jose Lobaton, C

Doug Fister, RHP
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Duda is due for a HR  
steve in ky : 5/3/2015 3:02 pm : link
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Almost (grin)  
steve in ky : 5/3/2015 3:02 pm : link
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...  
92_Ms : 5/3/2015 3:04 pm : link
Amazing performance from Torres
Wow  
Rflairr : 5/3/2015 3:04 pm : link
After that pitching from Torres. That's how they respond?
the Mets couldn't let us enjoy that win streak for long  
chris r : 5/3/2015 3:05 pm : link
without reminding us that they're the mets.
The hitting is flat out cold right now  
steve in ky : 5/3/2015 3:07 pm : link
Kevin Long is maybe not quite the genius he was being made out to be the first month of the season.

They need DW and TDA back asap. Too many holes in this lineup that negatively effects it as a whole.
brian Sabean of the Giants (GM) is personally scouting  
spike : 5/3/2015 3:09 pm : link
Niese,Gee and Murphy, so I foresee some of them will get traded soon.
I would hate to lose Murphy at this point  
steve in ky : 5/3/2015 3:11 pm : link
I honestly don't know if they can afford to lose his bat.
OK lets see if they have enough pride to not get shut out two games  
steve in ky : 5/3/2015 3:13 pm : link
in a row against a division rival.
The Nats have great pitching  
spike : 5/3/2015 3:16 pm : link
throwing 1's and 2's at you every night
Got to pinch hit for Tejada here  
steve in ky : 5/3/2015 3:17 pm : link
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please PH tejada  
spike : 5/3/2015 3:17 pm : link
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RE: The Nats have great pitching  
PhiPsi125 : 5/3/2015 3:20 pm : link
In comment 12268510 spike said:
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throwing 1's and 2's at you every night


Yeah well, everyone else has been seeming to hit them fine.
This makes no sense  
steve in ky : 5/3/2015 3:20 pm : link
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we have no bench or what?  
spike : 5/3/2015 3:23 pm : link
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RE: we have no bench or what?  
steve in ky : 5/3/2015 3:24 pm : link
In comment 12268521 spike said:
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I don't know what Collins is saving it for if not that situation?
I'm admittedly cranky watching  
LoudenSwain : 5/3/2015 3:26 pm : link
Right now, but for fucks sake do I really have to watch Ruben fucking tejada in the big spot. Fuck.
LoudenSwain  
Earl the goat : 5/3/2015 3:28 pm : link
Cooch and Shoot agree with you. Throw in Mr tanneman and Carly
Mets cant buy a run at this point  
Giants4246 : 5/3/2015 3:39 pm : link
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Nats doing everything to give this one to the Mets  
steve in ky : 5/3/2015 3:46 pm : link
Will they take advantage
Man is this frustrating to watch  
steve in ky : 5/3/2015 3:53 pm : link
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Murph walks  
pjcas18 : 5/3/2015 3:58 pm : link
plawecki sacrifice, wilmer PH walk off HR
So now he'll bat for tejada  
LoudenSwain : 5/3/2015 4:02 pm : link
Need a moment here.
Man this team needs wright back in  
LoudenSwain : 5/3/2015 4:06 pm : link
The worst way
Pathetic  
Rflairr : 5/3/2015 4:07 pm : link
To let a team continue to own you like this at home
This is deflating  
Headhunter : 5/3/2015 4:07 pm : link
I'm going to try to forget this as quickly as I can and move on
well that 11 game streak  
chris r : 5/3/2015 4:10 pm : link
seems like a long time ago.

And what's with Dilson, he hasn't really hit at all at the big league level in his two chances.
Just need the team to hang on here....  
LoudenSwain : 5/3/2015 4:11 pm : link
Wright may not have a ton of time to get it going. What are they going to do about thor mats and second base? Really an interesting set of circumstances. If we weren't in the middle of a prospective tailspin, I might be enjoying it more.
Just can't get negative when you go into a slump  
Headhunter : 5/3/2015 4:15 pm : link
just have to ride it out until it turns around. There are moves that can be made and should be made and I think Alderson does something on the off day tomorrow to try to shake them out of it
hard to blame  
pjcas18 : 5/3/2015 4:18 pm : link
any picthers, when you give up two runs COMBINED in the Gee and Niese starts, you have to at least plan on one win, but should really get two.

Mets scored 6 runs in the 4 game series.

that's not a playoff team, need to get the bats going.
11 game win streak followed up by  
PhiPsi125 : 5/3/2015 4:23 pm : link
going 3 and 7. Lol, only the mets.

Still waiting to see what the real Mets are like. Wright isnt fixing the offense all on his own.
Duda had a horrid at bat  
Ralph.C : 5/3/2015 4:24 pm : link
with second and third.

Yes, we need the wounded back in action. However, we need a young, power-hitting outfielder.

There must be a team that has a fourth guy who is young and up and coming -- like a Kevin Mitchell on the '86 Mets -- that we can pry away with some of our pitching.
When you have 8 hitters and you lose  
Headhunter : 5/3/2015 4:25 pm : link
1/4 of them, and they are arguably your 2 best, it's bound to catch up to you. They have to regroup. It feels like we are in last place going nowhere, but the reality is we are in first place. Washington got back Spahn, Werth and they got kick started.
RE: 11 game win streak followed up by  
CGiants07 : 5/3/2015 4:26 pm : link
In comment 12268592 PhiPsi125 said:
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going 3 and 7. Lol, only the mets.

Still waiting to see what the real Mets are like. Wright isnt fixing the offense all on his own.


16-10 on may 3 we would of taken when the season started. Were ok should have better week this week with Phillies and orioles
Just think  
Rflairr : 5/3/2015 4:27 pm : link
How bad the run output was without Werth playing that ball wrong
Peaks and valleys  
Headhunter : 5/3/2015 4:29 pm : link
There are a lot of good pieces in the pitching and outside of Lagares nobody is hitting. They will start hitting
I don't know the Washington got kickstarted  
pjcas18 : 5/3/2015 4:34 pm : link
they scored 2 runs the past three games. Not exactly murderers row.

you just don't expect back to back shutouts.
Yes they will (start hitting) but this is especially bad  
steve in ky : 5/3/2015 4:35 pm : link
They said that this was the first time the team has lost back to back 1-0 games to the same team since 1973. I have steadily watched the Mets during that span and they have fielded some horrid teams during that span. I find that stat remarkable.

I just hope that the lack of offense doesn't start to hurt the pitching where the pitchers feel they need to be perfect and don't stay within themselves.
You take your beat downs and move on  
Headhunter : 5/3/2015 4:41 pm : link
ranting and raving changes what exactly? I'm as frustrated as anyone here, but that and $2.75 gets me on the NYC subway. I have a lot to look forward to this summer with this team
RE: RE: 11 game win streak followed up by  
PhiPsi125 : 5/3/2015 4:46 pm : link
In comment 12268601 CGiants07 said:
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In comment 12268592 PhiPsi125 said:


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going 3 and 7. Lol, only the mets.

Still waiting to see what the real Mets are like. Wright isnt fixing the offense all on his own.



16-10 on may 3 we would of taken when the season started. Were ok should have better week this week with Phillies and orioles


I mean, it's fun to look at things in a vacuum but it doesn't really work that way. Yes, I'm happy where we are at this point in time. It doesn't mean that I have to be happy with what I've seen over the past 10 games or where things are trending. Where's the power? The Mets are 3 HRs away from the bottom spot in the NL. The Wash starters weren't exactly tearing in up and we still couldn't hit them. Facing the Phillies and Orioles isn't going to change that.

There's no way you can say that DW and TdA would have continued their hot starts through today. It's not that easy. Nobody else did. It's these stretches where your manager makes his money...and we're stuck with Collins. I know there are some that disagree with me, but sitting Flores in favor of Tejada for two straight games before an off day is fucking moronic. Especially when your offense is cold and already down two big players. Tejada is worse offensively AND defensively. Big mistake. Tejada needs to be off this team because he will hang over Flores' head every time he makes an error or has a bad game. It's not effective and extremely poor management.
There is 46 million dollars worth of contracts this year  
Earl the goat : 5/3/2015 4:56 pm : link
That are not producing. Granderson. Cuddyer. Wright. Anderson needs to find a bat thru a trade ( Murphy. Gee Niese) to supplement their offense
I'm not worried about Wright, he'll be fine.  
PhiPsi125 : 5/3/2015 5:02 pm : link
We've been through Cuddyer over and over again. I'll be happy if we get his career averages...and even that's lofty. Throw his CO numbers out the window. Just forget those years happened because that's not Cuddyer.

Granderson is, well, Granderson. I don't ever expect anything from him and I'm never disappointed. He's awful.
Phi. Not to sidetrack  
Earl the goat : 5/3/2015 5:05 pm : link
But are you still ok with the Melo signing. Especially coming off this injury
And I'm not trying to start a debate
RE: Phi. Not to sidetrack  
PhiPsi125 : 5/3/2015 5:30 pm : link
In comment 12268683 Earl the goat said:
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But are you still ok with the Melo signing. Especially coming off this injury
And I'm not trying to start a debate


Well, it wouldn't be fair for me to change my mind now. I was okay with it because I was looking at the next 3 to 4 years. This past season doesn't change that for me.

We certainly weren't going to sign anyone better than Melo, and that's why I wanted him signed. Plus, had things gone differently, we weren't in a place to make any noise this year anyway. This season, while it sucked, went as well as it could given our draft positioning. Ask me again midway through next season. Hopefully Melo's injury doesn't take too much away from him, but thats always a fear at his age.
But if you are asking me if I would feel the same  
PhiPsi125 : 5/3/2015 5:40 pm : link
had I known about the injury...then no, I would most likely not been an advocate about resigning him.

However, maybe it's a blessing in disguise with the draft. I mean, maybe we can have our Robinson/Duncan moment, lol.
We all knew the Mets weren't as good as their record a week or so ago.  
arcarsenal : 5/3/2015 5:48 pm : link
Things are evening out. It's baseball. Most of us had them pegged as an 85-87ish win team and that's probably exactly what they are.
Surprised to read last year's record  
Headhunter : 5/3/2015 6:35 pm : link
at this point was 15-11
Murphy is no 5th place hitter either  
CGiants07 : 5/3/2015 6:45 pm : link
I saw all I needed today with him. gets to 2-0 vs middle of the pack righty and weak ground out to 1st.

Washingtons rotation is probably one of the best 2 or 3 in baseball. Lets see how they do this week vs Baltimore and philly.

Hopefully Wright will be back by the weekend as we need him. Ideally the lineup when wright comes back is :

Granderson
Lagares
Wright
Duda
Cuddyer
Murphy
Catcher(plaw or tda)
Flores
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as you cant move lagares back to 7th the way hes hitting
RE: well that 11 game streak  
CGiants07 : 5/3/2015 6:46 pm : link
In comment 12268574 chris r said:
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seems like a long time ago.

And what's with Dilson, he hasn't really hit at all at the big league level in his two chances.


nationals sp have something to do with it this series
RE: RE: well that 11 game streak  
PhiPsi125 : 5/3/2015 7:10 pm : link
In comment 12268791 CGiants07 said:
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In comment 12268574 chris r said:


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seems like a long time ago.

And what's with Dilson, he hasn't really hit at all at the big league level in his two chances.



nationals sp have something to do with it this series


With the exception of Scherzer (which ironically is the one game we won) the Nats pitchers were, and have been, quite hittable. We got our hits, we just couldn't capitalize. Not even a sac fly. Herrera was red hot in AAA. Would of been nice to carry that up here but you cant expect it.

We had many chances to take this game today. Many.

Hoping we snap out of it on Tuesday.
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