I know this is a "future" pick. He needs work on his technique and blah blah blah. But the thing I like most about this pick is he can/should challenge for a G spot right now. The interior line needs more help than outside right now. 2 340lb lineman help out a lot. The fact that both have experience at T is a bonus. If Flowers can't beat Jerry this year it isn't the end of the world. But I hope they take the same approach they did with Richburg(and I know injuries were involved)in regard to Flowers.
Please don't move Pugh inside. I constantly hear people say he would be better there, but nothing about his game tells me that's his best fit in our offense. If anything, I think he is the best player on our roster to play LT should we cut Beatty in the future. We need big, aggressive guys with a mean streak to flank our undersized and still very green Center. Flowers may be our LT for the future. Or RT. But in 2015, we need a Guard. And he fits the bill.
This is what I hope they don't do. If Pugh is going to start the season at left guard, I'd rather he was playing there all through camp. And not just for his sake, but for the sake of Beatty and Richburg, too. Let Flowers begin camp behind Newhouse at right tackle.
I see Flowers playing OT on special teams; I see Flowers on 3rd and short, but I don't think he starts this year over Pugh. He plays if injuries hit and lets face it they often do.
Beatty-Schwartz-Richburg-Jerry-Pugh will likely be our opening day starters.
I do love our future potential with B. Jones & E. Flowers though. I think both of them will learn this year and blossom by next year.
This kid is a born ORT. Bet on it. Pugh is more suited to OG, he has excellent movement in space to pull and trap.
Even though the Giants have believed it, despite all proof to the contrary, most OL are not that interchangeable.
You stick Flowers at RT, simplify by not having to learn 500 positions, and stick the short-armed guy who is not all that powerful, but can move, at LG.
And the key point is that they be good at their starting positions, versatility is not all that important for the starters.
I see him probably doing enough to be placed at guard to get used to the NFL game in his 1dt season while he works on his technique.
An educated guess is that Pugh is the future LOT and Flowers is a nice replay of Kareem McKensie at ROT.
The only answer, move Pugh to LG.
I agree, you don't draft somebody #9 over-all, to sit him and treat him as a "developmental" player. Maybe in the NFL of 20 years ago, but not today.
Whether or not he is a LT is up in the air, but his ceiling is huge.
There's nothing not to like about this pick.
This is correct. Pugh who was more polished coming out only played ROT because of injuries. I fully expect it to take at least 1 year at guard before Flowers is NFL ready to move up to tackle. Remember, very highly rated future tackles like Robert Gallery never did become a tackle. He remained a good guard. If Flowers makes a smooth transition to tackle (either side) by year 2-3, he will be a good pick, IMO. The guy is a mauler in the run game and I expect even at guard his 1st year, he will help our run game a bunch.
I agree here. I think Pugh can move, but isn't a power guy which is what you want more out of an LT. But for this thread, I would be happy to see:
Beatty - Schwartz - Richburg - Flowers - Pugh.
It's possible that you swap Schwartz and Flowers (good arguments for both) but then you have two guys out of position. Now we still lack some legit depth, but if we can get lucky with one guy that can play G or RT good enough that gives us some flexibility if we go down a guy.
Is it better to have Jerry at LG and Pugh at Rt
Or
Pugh at LG and Flowers at Rt seems be what would be favored
This offers power running right and pulling options with Pugh and Richburg we haven't had inside in a while.
Unless he clearly bombs early, that is the plan..