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Modus Operandi : 5/3/2015 4:10 pm
Fwiw: I had dinner with a family member of one of the players and was told Zucs has a fractured skull and they fear he may not play again.

Not sure how true, but disappointing.
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BrettNYG10 : 5/3/2015 4:14 pm : link
I heard this yesterday morning, but didn't believe it since I didn't believe this 'source' would be exposed to the info. He said Zucc was told he'd only re-gain 80% of his motor skills and that he's in awful shape.

The last guy I know of to have a fractured skull was Blake Geoffrion, and he had to retire.
And thanks for passing along.  
BrettNYG10 : 5/3/2015 4:14 pm : link
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BrettNYG10 : 5/3/2015 4:17 pm : link
Also, I don't get the comments by AV after that game that Zucc was 'alright' and the comment from McDonagh the following Monday that it isn't too serious.

Makes no sense.
Fuckin kick in the pants..  
Modus Operandi : 5/3/2015 4:18 pm : link
And scary, in terms of his own health.
Agreed.  
BrettNYG10 : 5/3/2015 4:28 pm : link
I have a hard time seeing them win a Cup without him with MSL providing nothing right now.

Zucc had a concussion back in 2011 (I believe) with the Connecticut Whale, but only missed a few days.

Feel terrible for him.
wow, feel terrible for him -  
Del Shofner : 5/3/2015 4:29 pm : link
on such a freak play too.
That's horrible  
Jay in Toronto : 5/3/2015 4:32 pm : link
makes you wonder how good those helmets are :(
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Deej : 5/3/2015 4:32 pm : link
In comment 12268584 BrettNYG10 said:
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Also, I don't get the comments by AV after that game that Zucc was 'alright' and the comment from McDonagh the following Monday that it isn't too serious.

Makes no sense.


And Buch resigning for a season in the KHL because of the Rangers NHL level depth. If this was true, we'd need to replace one or two (MSL) NHL level scoring line wings.
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BrettNYG10 : 5/3/2015 4:36 pm : link
In comment 12268617 Deej said:
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Also, I don't get the comments by AV after that game that Zucc was 'alright' and the comment from McDonagh the following Monday that it isn't too serious.

Makes no sense.



And Buch resigning for a season in the KHL because of the Rangers NHL level depth. If this was true, we'd need to replace one or two (MSL) NHL level scoring line wings.


Do you have any thoughts on Tambellini and his ability to be a top nine winger?

I don't follow the prospects as much as I used to, but he's apparently done really well this year.
If this news is true  
Ash_3 : 5/3/2015 4:36 pm : link
it makes the Yandle trade a double gut punch since a) Yandle hasn't been the offensive force we thought we'd be getting and b) Duclair was traded and he could have been a potential (imperfect) substitute.
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Ash_3 : 5/3/2015 4:36 pm : link
In comment 12268627 BrettNYG10 said:
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Also, I don't get the comments by AV after that game that Zucc was 'alright' and the comment from McDonagh the following Monday that it isn't too serious.

Makes no sense.



And Buch resigning for a season in the KHL because of the Rangers NHL level depth. If this was true, we'd need to replace one or two (MSL) NHL level scoring line wings.



Do you have any thoughts on Tambellini and his ability to be a top nine winger?

I don't follow the prospects as much as I used to, but he's apparently done really well this year.


Anak's the man to ask.
Rangers called up Bourque  
Jay in Toronto : 5/3/2015 4:38 pm : link
interesting not Kristo who is a RW (vs Bourque who is a LW)
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Anakim : 5/3/2015 4:42 pm : link
In comment 12268633 Ash_3 said:
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Also, I don't get the comments by AV after that game that Zucc was 'alright' and the comment from McDonagh the following Monday that it isn't too serious.

Makes no sense.



And Buch resigning for a season in the KHL because of the Rangers NHL level depth. If this was true, we'd need to replace one or two (MSL) NHL level scoring line wings.



Do you have any thoughts on Tambellini and his ability to be a top nine winger?

I don't follow the prospects as much as I used to, but he's apparently done really well this year.



Anak's the man to ask.


Tambo's absolutely tearing it up in the playoffs
MAB posted something a few days ago  
Run with 81 : 5/3/2015 4:43 pm : link
maybe it was testerdays game thread,,,? Anyhoo, he said he wasat game and heard it was bad news for Zucc, worse than a concussion. I feared the worst with this ass soon as it happened... fractured skull doesn't surprise me 1 bit!! I feel for Zucc & the whole Org... We're jst under this black cloud with career ending inuries (or deaths) Goal scorers can't score, heart beat of team is done for season...(hopefully he will still have a normal life)

We just seem to have to persevere thru more than most!!!
I refuse to believe this  
djm : 5/3/2015 4:43 pm : link
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Awful  
bxgiants4 : 5/3/2015 4:44 pm : link
News
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Ash_3 : 5/3/2015 4:44 pm : link
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Also, I don't get the comments by AV after that game that Zucc was 'alright' and the comment from McDonagh the following Monday that it isn't too serious.

Makes no sense.



And Buch resigning for a season in the KHL because of the Rangers NHL level depth. If this was true, we'd need to replace one or two (MSL) NHL level scoring line wings.



Do you have any thoughts on Tambellini and his ability to be a top nine winger?

I don't follow the prospects as much as I used to, but he's apparently done really well this year.



Anak's the man to ask.



Tambo's absolutely tearing it up in the playoffs


I was being glib.
Seems a little strong to think  
section125 : 5/3/2015 4:45 pm : link
that a guy that wasn't hospitalized is going to lose 20% of his motor skills. I can believe the fractured skull. Still if he had brain swelling that bad, he'd have been in the hospital.

Being out for the season would be likely.
Tambellini  
Deej : 5/3/2015 4:45 pm : link
Overage 6'3 guy. I havent seen him or any great writeup of his development this year, but even if I had it would be hard to tell if he's just bigger, older, stronger than the competition or if he turned a corner. I wouldnt expect him to play in NY at all next year, but who knows -- Slats isnt shy about rushing prospects with little AHL experience.

What I have read indicates that he still isnt a power forward type -- more in the mold of a lesser Rick Nash who doesnt throw his size around with hits and establishing position down low.
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BrettNYG10 : 5/3/2015 4:46 pm : link
People on HF who claim sources (some of whom have posted correct info before) are hinting at the same thing. Mods over there delete anything not from a verified source because they suck, though.
Thanks, Deej.  
BrettNYG10 : 5/3/2015 4:46 pm : link
Really wish Buch came over.
RE: Seems a little strong to think  
BrettNYG10 : 5/3/2015 4:48 pm : link
In comment 12268647 section125 said:
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that a guy that wasn't hospitalized is going to lose 20% of his motor skills. I can believe the fractured skull. Still if he had brain swelling that bad, he'd have been in the hospital.

Being out for the season would be likely.


He was in the hospital. Brooks said he was in for at least one night.

I have a hard time buying the motor skills thing too - it just seems too soon to know (and like I said, I don't think the guy I heard that line from is someone in the know).
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Run with 81 : 5/3/2015 4:49 pm : link
Shouldn't be typing laying down... or at least proof-read B4 submitting. Sorry bout all the typos!
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Anakim : 5/3/2015 4:49 pm : link
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Also, I don't get the comments by AV after that game that Zucc was 'alright' and the comment from McDonagh the following Monday that it isn't too serious.

Makes no sense.



And Buch resigning for a season in the KHL because of the Rangers NHL level depth. If this was true, we'd need to replace one or two (MSL) NHL level scoring line wings.



Do you have any thoughts on Tambellini and his ability to be a top nine winger?

I don't follow the prospects as much as I used to, but he's apparently done really well this year.



Anak's the man to ask.



Tambo's absolutely tearing it up in the playoffs



I was being glib.


I know. You only post on this board to bust my balls. You're kind of like a more selective MiamiHurricanesFan
RE: Seems a little strong to think  
RodneyHamp : 5/3/2015 4:50 pm : link
In comment 12268647 section125 said:
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that a guy that wasn't hospitalized is going to lose 20% of his motor skills. I can believe the fractured skull. Still if he had brain swelling that bad, he'd have been in the hospital.

Being out for the season would be likely.


I remember reading on snyrangersblog that he spent a night at the hospital.
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Ash_3 : 5/3/2015 4:50 pm : link
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Also, I don't get the comments by AV after that game that Zucc was 'alright' and the comment from McDonagh the following Monday that it isn't too serious.

Makes no sense.



And Buch resigning for a season in the KHL because of the Rangers NHL level depth. If this was true, we'd need to replace one or two (MSL) NHL level scoring line wings.



Do you have any thoughts on Tambellini and his ability to be a top nine winger?

I don't follow the prospects as much as I used to, but he's apparently done really well this year.



Anak's the man to ask.



Tambo's absolutely tearing it up in the playoffs



I was being glib.



I know. You only post on this board to bust my balls. You're kind of like a more selective MiamiHurricanesFan


Yep, that's precisely the right analogy.
Zucc also hasn't opened my snapchats in like a fucking week.  
BrettNYG10 : 5/3/2015 4:52 pm : link
He used to always open them within a day.
RE: RE: Seems a little strong to think  
section125 : 5/3/2015 4:52 pm : link
In comment 12268654 BrettNYG10 said:
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that a guy that wasn't hospitalized is going to lose 20% of his motor skills. I can believe the fractured skull. Still if he had brain swelling that bad, he'd have been in the hospital.

Being out for the season would be likely.



He was in the hospital. Brooks said he was in for at least one night.

I have a hard time buying the motor skills thing too - it just seems too soon to know (and like I said, I don't think the guy I heard that line from is someone in the know).


One night is observation - anybody that gets smacked that hard in the head is should spend the night in the hospital.
Just hope he gets better and is not left with concussion symptoms for an extended period.

LGR.
RE: Seems a little strong to think  
Kyle in NY : 5/3/2015 4:53 pm : link
In comment 12268647 section125 said:
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that a guy that wasn't hospitalized is going to lose 20% of his motor skills. I can believe the fractured skull. Still if he had brain swelling that bad, he'd have been in the hospital.

Being out for the season would be likely.


I'm hoping this is the case. Seems believable that this is the injury and his season is over. But hopefully the motor skill part is off and his career isn't over.
The unopened snapchat  
Ash_3 : 5/3/2015 4:53 pm : link
is a digital ringworm; it insinuates itself in your life, and grows with each passing moment.
It's fucking killing me.  
BrettNYG10 : 5/3/2015 4:57 pm : link
If you only knew the pictures I had to send to get him to stay here...
Obviously I hope this isn't true, and he can continue his career.  
Mad Mike : 5/3/2015 4:58 pm : link
But if it really is a situation where not only his career, but his life-long health is in jeopardy, that's just awful. Best wishes to him in being able to get back to, at the very least, good health and a normal life.
Yikes  
Fish : 5/3/2015 5:12 pm : link
How did it happen. Didn't see it.
This would be a horrible rumor if it turns out to be false ...  
baadbill : 5/3/2015 5:20 pm : link
but I pray that it is. Fuck hockey. All I want to hear is that he will live a long and healthy life.
RE: Yikes  
Deej : 5/3/2015 5:24 pm : link
In comment 12268684 Fish said:
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How did it happen. Didn't see it.


Video at link.
Link - ( New Window )
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ColHowPepper : 5/3/2015 5:38 pm : link
In comment 12268584 BrettNYG10 said:
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Also, I don't get the comments by AV after that game that Zucc was 'alright' and the comment from McDonagh the following Monday that it isn't too serious.
Makes no sense.


Hockey players, tradition bound (lose a couple of teeth taking a puck in the chops, stitched up, return next period), old fashioned suck it up and return to the ice: the comments of AV and McDonough, I fear, may be the bravado, the refuse-to-acknowledge-the worst warrior types of Canada and the north--we're going to muster through regardless, a type of noble obliviousness to the worst...

just horrible news if true. Last year, MSL's mom, this year, Zuccs, Blueshirts don't need any more of these
If true  
timintey : 5/3/2015 5:39 pm : link
this is awful. Hope he has a full recovery. Don't care for the Rangers but I really like the way he plays...
Ugh. Terrible.  
arcarsenal : 5/3/2015 5:52 pm : link
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Apparently someone spoke to one of Zucc's close friends  
NYerInMA : 5/3/2015 6:08 pm : link
Who said that he's just got a concussion and has to avoid lights, TVs, etc. so he's very bored. FWIW, it just sounds like a concussion that's a wait and see injury, not a skull fracture/brain damage situation.
To be fair, though..  
arcarsenal : 5/3/2015 6:08 pm : link
We heard similar stuff about Hank while he was out. "Career might be over.. might be at high risk for strokes, etc"

A lot of it turned out to be bogus.
Well, I said they would never rule out  
Giants2012 : 5/3/2015 6:09 pm : link
a player for a series for just a concussion.
RE: To be fair, though..  
BrettNYG10 : 5/3/2015 6:12 pm : link
In comment 12268746 arcarsenal said:
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We heard similar stuff about Hank while he was out. "Career might be over.. might be at high risk for strokes, etc"

A lot of it turned out to be bogus.


The stroke thing came from Lundqvist himself. The career might be over stuff came from fans worrying - there was never a source, and the beat reporters said there was no career risk the day he was diagnosed.
What is the source for this news though?  
arcarsenal : 5/3/2015 6:17 pm : link
Friend of players family? Anonymous on HF boards?

The overall point is that tons of misinformation gets thrown around. I'm glad the info was shared but I can't take 2nd/3rd hand stuff as fact until it comes from a more reliable source.
That's true (RE: misinformation)  
BrettNYG10 : 5/3/2015 6:19 pm : link
But this is different than the Lundqvist situation where it was strictly fans speculating about the severity of the injury rather than people claiming information.
Here's the link I found  
NYerInMA : 5/3/2015 6:20 pm : link
about speaking with Zucc's friend.
MYSTERY AROUND SEVERITY OF MATS ZUCCARELLO INJURY LEADING TO WILD SPECULATION - ( New Window )
Based on the link above..  
arcarsenal : 5/3/2015 6:23 pm : link
...I'd say there's plenty of speculation with no concrete info behind it being passed around.
RE: Based on the link above..  
BrettNYG10 : 5/3/2015 6:29 pm : link
In comment 12268764 arcarsenal said:
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...I'd say there's plenty of speculation with no concrete info behind it being passed around.


Not really speculation when someone is claiming information from a source. Speculating is what we're with that information.

You're welcome for today's lesson.

Also, the player quoted in the link is wrong because Zucc did suffer a concussion before.
We're doing*  
BrettNYG10 : 5/3/2015 6:45 pm : link
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arcarsenal : 5/3/2015 6:49 pm : link
The "sources" are all unverified and anonymous, thus.. speculation by fans and other outlets because no one knows if any of it is true or not.

First and foremost, I hope Zuccs gets healthy ASAP  
jgambrosio : 5/3/2015 6:57 pm : link
for his own good, not just the Rangers.

I can't fathom though if he really had a fractured skull that the Rangers wouldn't just come out and say he's out for the year. I did see that fulltilt link yesterday, but it's all speculation.
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