Kind of a weird exchange...he was asked about Geremy Davis...started to sound like he was going to say that Davis was insurance for Cruz...stopped himself and said he thought Cruz would be 100 percent.
Kind of a weird exchange...he was asked about Geremy Davis...started to sound like he was going to say that Davis was insurance for Cruz...stopped himself and said he thought Cruz would be 100 percent.
yeah....almost as if Cruz made major strides over the last few weeks. A few weeks ago Reese seemed much more cautions. Regardless, I'm siked...and as you say, fingers crossed.
guy has excellent measurables. 4.49 at his pro day top combine bench press (23) for any WR, 4.18 shuttle and 6.86 3 cone, 36 vert, 10.5' b jump. Excellent college production (165 for 2,292) and 6'3" 216. Thought he was a PS guy but he could surprise.
He doesn't really separate at the collegiate level...Coughlin even admitted that. Curious pick.
Obviously something about him he was predicted 6/7. But he's got measurables like the 2nd, 3rd, 4th round guys. Maybe a little coaching can help. Some route running technique? Who knows.
Tyree wasn't a very accomplished WR in college and was drafted mainly as a special team ace. And developed over a number of yrs in the NFL be an average WR.
He was able to separate when needed from the games I noticed. But his QB and the OL was so poor in college he didn't run a lot of deep routes and the anticipation in the passing offense was almost non-existent so by the time he received the pass he had a DB on him.
I think he can improve as a route runner and be a very solid NFL WR Â
Watch a couple game tapes on Draft Breakdown. He clearly does not separate very well. But, he does seem to have great hands, and his size allows him to post up/ On tape, he plays like a tight end over the middle. I could see him playing in the slot on a matchup basis.
And who knows. Maybe they can teach him how to get separation.
He doesn't really separate at the collegiate level...Coughlin even admitted that. Curious pick.
Right now I think the assumption has to be that he may well have trouble separating. But he can still box out defenders with his size and strength, like Nicks. He has excellent hands. He also had bad QB at UConn, which may have affected his ability to separate.
I just think the QB play so poor that it may appear that way. From the clips, I've seen the ball was rarely on time or well thrown. But in the Michigan game which you linked in another thread he catches a deep pass in the end zone on a well thrown ball and lunges for a TD displaying some speed. I think he has decent speed. A 4.48 on his pro day certainly says he has at least that.
comments to mean he's not going to consistently separate like an OBJ or Cruz with deep speed or quicks. That's not his calling card. Doesn't mean he's devoid of any quicks or speed and can't separate at all.
Coughlin was essentially stating what I deemed to be obvious. That Davis is a bigger, physical WR and more of a possession WR than any of the other WRs on the current roster. His job will be to make the tough, contested catches and use his length. We currently don't have a WR like that on the roster outside of Washington who barely played last he.
Our starters are obviously OBJ, Randle and Cruz in the slot (if healthy).
You figure D. Harris backs up Cruz as the slot guy over Parker.
I believe C. Washington and M. Harris make the team as well. They played well for raw, young guys in a new offense. I see a bright future for both of them. That makes for 7 wideouts and we won't carry that money.
The rookie is PS material this year UNLESS injuries hit or something.
Yeah I see OBJ, Cruz, Randle, D. Harris, and Soup Â
as locks. So the question is if the Giants carry 6 or 7 WRs this yr and how much has Washington improved. I think Davis can bump Washington off the roster.
Unless Soup isnt the same player we saw last preseason who caught Â
Our starters are obviously OBJ, Randle and Cruz in the slot (if healthy).
You figure D. Harris backs up Cruz as the slot guy over Parker.
I believe C. Washington and M. Harris make the team as well. They played well for raw, young guys in a new offense. I see a bright future for both of them. That makes for 7 wideouts and we won't carry that money.
The rookie is PS material this year UNLESS injuries hit or something.
Are you saying that Harris will knock Parker off the roster?
Parker is the quintessential "Coughlin guy." Tough, hard-working, fiery, special teams player. Does all the little things. He is Coughlin's David Tyree right now, only he's a better wideout. Seems like he has earned Coughlins trust and that usually ends up saving a few guys from getting cut over youngsters with a higher ceiling and less experience (Corey Washington, the Harris's, etc).
won't "take the top off" the defense. But he still has value as a big possession receiver. He also plays ST. I think this is about pushing Washington, and in case Randle leaves next year.
It is obvious where they want to use Davis the most Â
Our starters are obviously OBJ, Randle and Cruz in the slot (if healthy).
You figure D. Harris backs up Cruz as the slot guy over Parker.
I believe C. Washington and M. Harris make the team as well. They played well for raw, young guys in a new offense. I see a bright future for both of them. That makes for 7 wideouts and we won't carry that money.
The rookie is PS material this year UNLESS injuries hit or something.
Are you saying that Harris will knock Parker off the roster?
Parker is the quintessential "Coughlin guy." Tough, hard-working, fiery, special teams player. Does all the little things. He is Coughlin's David Tyree right now, only he's a better wideout. Seems like he has earned Coughlins trust and that usually ends up saving a few guys from getting cut over youngsters with a higher ceiling and less experience (Corey Washington, the Harris's, etc).
Harris is the good version of Parker. He's better than Parker at everything.
I was referring to guys like Washington, Marcus Harris, Ogletree, Talley, Harper, etc. Dwayne Harris is obviously not going anywhere. He makes more than Beckham.
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He doesn't really separate at the collegiate level...Coughlin even admitted that. Curious pick.
Right now I think the assumption has to be that he may well have trouble separating. But he can still box out defenders with his size and strength, like Nicks. He has excellent hands. He also had bad QB at UConn, which may have affected his ability to separate''
for short box-out type routes where the wr gets grabbed quickly; those do have a use.
you kind of want to free Randle up from those duties so he can run free and take advantage of having Odell.
So, you have the free agent WR and the 6th rounder, both can play specials and both can probably to the box-out and take a beating stuff.
Randle. Harris the free agent and the kid Geremy, all players that should be able to block as well, for Vereen and whomever.
Our starters are obviously OBJ, Randle and Cruz in the slot (if healthy).
You figure D. Harris backs up Cruz as the slot guy over Parker.
I believe C. Washington and M. Harris make the team as well. They played well for raw, young guys in a new offense. I see a bright future for both of them. That makes for 7 wideouts and we won't carry that money.
The rookie is PS material this year UNLESS injuries hit or something.
Are you saying that Harris will knock Parker off the roster?
Parker is the quintessential "Coughlin guy." Tough, hard-working, fiery, special teams player. Does all the little things. He is Coughlin's David Tyree right now, only he's a better wideout. Seems like he has earned Coughlins trust and that usually ends up saving a few guys from getting cut over youngsters with a higher ceiling and less experience (Corey Washington, the Harris's, etc).
Harris is the good version of Parker. He's better than Parker at everything.
When did Harris get to be such a star. He's a 26 year old Arena League refugee never was. Parker is no great shakes and he has caught 75 passes in the NFL which is 75 more than Harris has caught.
BBI develops the strangest attachments to certain players.
Aren't you?
Kind of a weird exchange...he was asked about Geremy Davis...started to sound like he was going to say that Davis was insurance for Cruz...stopped himself and said he thought Cruz would be 100 percent.
super excited.
Kind of a weird exchange...he was asked about Geremy Davis...started to sound like he was going to say that Davis was insurance for Cruz...stopped himself and said he thought Cruz would be 100 percent.
yeah....almost as if Cruz made major strides over the last few weeks. A few weeks ago Reese seemed much more cautions. Regardless, I'm siked...and as you say, fingers crossed.
Fingers crossed on Victor.
Obviously something about him he was predicted 6/7. But he's got measurables like the 2nd, 3rd, 4th round guys. Maybe a little coaching can help. Some route running technique? Who knows.
He was able to separate when needed from the games I noticed. But his QB and the OL was so poor in college he didn't run a lot of deep routes and the anticipation in the passing offense was almost non-existent so by the time he received the pass he had a DB on him.
This is very different Eric than saying that Davis can't separate. Just that he may not separate like the other WRs on the roster.
To me, Coughlin is politely saying he has trouble separating. Look at him on tape...almost every throw to him the DB is right on top of him.
And who knows. Maybe they can teach him how to get separation.
Right now I think the assumption has to be that he may well have trouble separating. But he can still box out defenders with his size and strength, like Nicks. He has excellent hands. He also had bad QB at UConn, which may have affected his ability to separate.
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Coughlin was essentially stating what I deemed to be obvious. That Davis is a bigger, physical WR and more of a possession WR than any of the other WRs on the current roster. His job will be to make the tough, contested catches and use his length. We currently don't have a WR like that on the roster outside of Washington who barely played last he.
You figure D. Harris backs up Cruz as the slot guy over Parker.
I believe C. Washington and M. Harris make the team as well. They played well for raw, young guys in a new offense. I see a bright future for both of them. That makes for 7 wideouts and we won't carry that money.
The rookie is PS material this year UNLESS injuries hit or something.
You figure D. Harris backs up Cruz as the slot guy over Parker.
I believe C. Washington and M. Harris make the team as well. They played well for raw, young guys in a new offense. I see a bright future for both of them. That makes for 7 wideouts and we won't carry that money.
The rookie is PS material this year UNLESS injuries hit or something.
Are you saying that Harris will knock Parker off the roster?
Parker is the quintessential "Coughlin guy." Tough, hard-working, fiery, special teams player. Does all the little things. He is Coughlin's David Tyree right now, only he's a better wideout. Seems like he has earned Coughlins trust and that usually ends up saving a few guys from getting cut over youngsters with a higher ceiling and less experience (Corey Washington, the Harris's, etc).
Fade left, red zone on 3. Break!
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Our starters are obviously OBJ, Randle and Cruz in the slot (if healthy).
You figure D. Harris backs up Cruz as the slot guy over Parker.
I believe C. Washington and M. Harris make the team as well. They played well for raw, young guys in a new offense. I see a bright future for both of them. That makes for 7 wideouts and we won't carry that money.
The rookie is PS material this year UNLESS injuries hit or something.
Are you saying that Harris will knock Parker off the roster?
Parker is the quintessential "Coughlin guy." Tough, hard-working, fiery, special teams player. Does all the little things. He is Coughlin's David Tyree right now, only he's a better wideout. Seems like he has earned Coughlins trust and that usually ends up saving a few guys from getting cut over youngsters with a higher ceiling and less experience (Corey Washington, the Harris's, etc).
Harris is the good version of Parker. He's better than Parker at everything.
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In comment 12270802 Eric from BBI said:
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He doesn't really separate at the collegiate level...Coughlin even admitted that. Curious pick.
Right now I think the assumption has to be that he may well have trouble separating. But he can still box out defenders with his size and strength, like Nicks. He has excellent hands. He also had bad QB at UConn, which may have affected his ability to separate''
for short box-out type routes where the wr gets grabbed quickly; those do have a use.
you kind of want to free Randle up from those duties so he can run free and take advantage of having Odell.
So, you have the free agent WR and the 6th rounder, both can play specials and both can probably to the box-out and take a beating stuff.
Randle. Harris the free agent and the kid Geremy, all players that should be able to block as well, for Vereen and whomever.
that's not a bad thing. lets see who from last years roster break out this year.
overall, I am sticking with a:
B grade
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In comment 12271417 SGMen said:
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Our starters are obviously OBJ, Randle and Cruz in the slot (if healthy).
You figure D. Harris backs up Cruz as the slot guy over Parker.
I believe C. Washington and M. Harris make the team as well. They played well for raw, young guys in a new offense. I see a bright future for both of them. That makes for 7 wideouts and we won't carry that money.
The rookie is PS material this year UNLESS injuries hit or something.
Are you saying that Harris will knock Parker off the roster?
Parker is the quintessential "Coughlin guy." Tough, hard-working, fiery, special teams player. Does all the little things. He is Coughlin's David Tyree right now, only he's a better wideout. Seems like he has earned Coughlins trust and that usually ends up saving a few guys from getting cut over youngsters with a higher ceiling and less experience (Corey Washington, the Harris's, etc).
Harris is the good version of Parker. He's better than Parker at everything.
BBI develops the strangest attachments to certain players.