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Did Army miscalculate support for Jade Helm 15?

Great White Ghost : 5/6/2015 10:52 pm
The massive "Training excercise" to be conducted in 12 states,and involve special forces operators infiltraing local neighborhoods , including "Role players" as terrorists, disgruntled deranged armed vets, drug dealers, illegal aliens, "simulated" mass roundups and detentions scheduled between July 15th and Sept 15th to include special forces from all branches of the service, Marine corp, Army, State, local and federal law enforcement ,homeland security ,FEMA , FBI, CIA, DEA etc , seems to be losing support in the one sector of the Public they were sure would accept it, Texas. Increasingly local authorities are questioning whether they can opt out.It's just interesting the normal media outlets are silent.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2wdDZB0b7s& feature=youtu.be
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RE: RE: This is pitiful  
Wuphat : 5/8/2015 4:43 pm : link
In comment 12278085 BrettNYG10 said:
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In comment 12278066 Great White Ghost said:


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You have no pride, no dignity, no self respect. Stop embasrassing yourself already.You have no bottom.



Wow, a correct GWG post.

Never thought I'd see the day.


Ha!
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Klaatu : 5/8/2015 5:00 pm : link


Are you okay, Ronnie?

Oh, yes, boss. BBI no match for me.
Hmmmm...  
RC02XX : 5/8/2015 5:09 pm : link
RE: .....  
Jon : 5/8/2015 5:19 pm : link
In comment 12278111 Klaatu said:
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Are you okay, Ronnie?

Oh, yes, boss. BBI no match for me.


Which one is Ronnie?
RE: RE: .....  
RC02XX : 5/8/2015 5:27 pm : link
In comment 12278152 Jon said:
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Which one is Ronnie?


Hmmm...the one, who kicked everyone's asses?
RE: RE: .....  
Klaatu : 5/8/2015 5:27 pm : link
In comment 12278152 Jon said:
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In comment 12278111 Klaatu said:


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Are you okay, Ronnie?

Oh, yes, boss. BBI no match for me.



Which one is Ronnie?


The Puerto Rican guy, obviously.
Let's be serious here for a second...  
RC02XX : 5/8/2015 5:52 pm : link
This thread started out badly from the start. While GWG states that his intentions were to merely start a constructive discussion, most of us saw it as something completely different based not only on the badly worded OP, the linked video, and the thread starter's posting history. Unless 99% of us misread the intention of the thread, we can all agree that GWG's intentions were just as we saw it, no matter how much he tries to backtrack.

At certain point, we turned this thread into a joke thread since it's Friday and I'm sure many of us are bored at work (hey, I'm still at work, so I needed entertainment). However, instead of laughing at himself and at the others' posts (many were funny as hell), GWG focused on one guy, who has given him the most grief in several threads. I mentioned that I've sort of gotten into his head since almost all of his posts have been insults directed at me, and insults that aren't even all that creative.

While the most prudent thing would be to just delete this thread since he's the one, who created it, GWG chooses to leave it up and come back into it from time to time to throw out insults. I'm not sure what the point of leaving it up is since the thread obviously didn't go the way he envisioned it would go.

And I'm sure he will respond that he doesn't give a damn what others think about his views, threads, posts, and himself, but I would beg to differ since it's a natural tendency to want validation of one's views if the individual deemed it important enough to not only start a thread but also to spend time arguing against total strangers.

At certain point, the OP of this thread no longer really matters. All that matters for many of us is to use this thread as a source of entertainment at the expense of not only the thread starter but other posters on it as well.

It's almost the weekend, some just need to take a deep breath and just laugh at themselves. I know that I'm laughing at myself.
Thanks!  
Jon : 5/8/2015 5:54 pm : link
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However, instead of laughing at himself and at the others' posts (many were funny as hell)
I will say it's suprising to see the far left  
Great White Ghost : 5/8/2015 9:19 pm : link
give such widespread support for using armed forces for domestic law enforcement.That's one thing that was made clear in this thread.In the end though, I guess that's exactly what real bolsheviks do.Back in the day the left used to protest the armed forces being used for law enforcement.My how times have changed.
It's a fucking exercise.  
Wuphat : 5/8/2015 9:27 pm : link
It is not domestic law enforcement.

No amount of calling it otherwise changes that.
Dude you're absolutely right  
Jon : 5/8/2015 9:38 pm : link
This "excersise" is truly frightening. I can't believe they don't see it.
RE: Dude you're absolutely right  
Great White Ghost : 5/8/2015 9:55 pm : link
In comment 12278580 Jon said:
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This "excersise" is truly frightening. I can't believe they don't see it.
You're "truly frightened? Hysterical much?Or you are just a patholigical liar who like you r asshole buddies has to put words in peoples mouths and invent a dialaogue that doesnt exist to justify your supidity.
Tell me how you were just being sarcastic now, and then pretend your head is something besides an empty vessel.Momo.
RE: It's a fucking exercise.  
Great White Ghost : 5/8/2015 9:59 pm : link
In comment 12278541 Wuphat said:
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It is not domestic law enforcement.

No amount of calling it otherwise changes that.
And no amount of you saying it isn't changes the fact that the military has been advertising this from beggining to end as saying it's an excercise in concert with local law enforcement.In their press releases, and in their meetings with local officials .You're a liar.Lie more.
RE: RE: Dude you're absolutely right  
Jon : 5/8/2015 10:03 pm : link
In comment 12278616 Great White Ghost said:
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In comment 12278580 Jon said:


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This "excersise" is truly frightening. I can't believe they don't see it.

You're "truly frightened? Hysterical much?Or you are just a patholigical liar who like you r asshole buddies has to put words in peoples mouths and invent a dialaogue that doesnt exist to justify your supidity.
Tell me how you were just being sarcastic now, and then pretend your head is something besides an empty vessel.Momo.


Not without seeing the money first
Joint exercises between the military and local law enforcement  
Wuphat : 5/8/2015 10:19 pm : link
happens all the time. That doesn't make it domestic law enforcement as an action.

It's called an exercise for a reason--because it's not real world.

You really have no idea what you're talking about.
liar  
Jon : 5/8/2015 10:30 pm : link
I know one day, I'm gonna be an Old White Guy, too  
Wuphat : 5/8/2015 10:33 pm : link
I just hope I don't turn into a Scared Old White Guy.

How depressing that existence must be.
RE: I know one day, I'm gonna be an Old White Guy, too  
Jon : 5/8/2015 10:34 pm : link
In comment 12278698 Wuphat said:
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I just hope I don't turn into a Scared Old White Guy.

How depressing that existence must be.


Liar!
RE: I will say it's suprising to see the far left  
Stu11 : 5/8/2015 11:17 pm : link
In comment 12278517 Great White Ghost said:
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give such widespread support for using armed forces for domestic law enforcement.That's one thing that was made clear in this thread.In the end though, I guess that's exactly what real bolsheviks do.Back in the day the left used to protest the armed forces being used for law enforcement.My how times have changed.

See you guys pony'd up in the collection plate and we got our money's worth!
the best part of this thread is  
Berrylish : 5/9/2015 8:50 am : link
GWG using the word Momo... weaksauce.
I swear  
Headhunter : 5/9/2015 8:59 am : link
This is like the courtroom scene in "Inherit the Wind" it really was sad to see the William Jennings Bryant character played by Frederick March disintegrate on the stand under cross examination by the Clarance Darrow
character played by Spencer Tracy. At the end you had to feel bad for his lunacy being exposed and his supporters watching him get taken down. Except in this case Im enjoying the disintegration of someone here I can't stand knowing that 90 percent of you will never take him seriously again
RE: I will say it's suprising to see the far left  
Cam in MO : 5/9/2015 9:17 am : link
In comment 12278517 Great White Ghost said:
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give such widespread support for using armed forces for domestic law enforcement.That's one thing that was made clear in this thread.In the end though, I guess that's exactly what real bolsheviks do.Back in the day the left used to protest the armed forces being used for law enforcement.My how times have changed.



Bahahahahaha

hahahaha

ha ha ha

ha.

So all of the people that don't agree with the idiocy you're spewing on this thread are far left?


What a very scared and childish approach to take.



RE: I swear  
Chris in Philly : 5/9/2015 9:22 am : link
In comment 12278871 Headhunter said:
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This is like the courtroom scene in "Inherit the Wind" it really was sad to see the William Jennings Bryant character played by Frederick March disintegrate on the stand under cross examination by the Clarance Darrow
character played by Spencer Tracy. At the end you had to feel bad for his lunacy being exposed and his supporters watching him get taken down. Except in this case Im enjoying the disintegration of someone here I can't stand knowing that 90 percent of you will never take him seriously again


This man wishes to be a sponge!
I had no idea HH felt so strongly about Ronnie  
Wuphat : 5/9/2015 9:46 am : link
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RE: I had no idea HH felt so strongly about Ronnie  
RC02XX : 5/9/2015 10:16 am : link
In comment 12278905 Wuphat said:
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Well...I do bring out the best in people.
RE: I will say it's suprising to see the far left  
JOrthman : 5/9/2015 10:43 am : link
In comment 12278517 Great White Ghost said:
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give such widespread support for using armed forces for domestic law enforcement.That's one thing that was made clear in this thread.In the end though, I guess that's exactly what real bolsheviks do.Back in the day the left used to protest the armed forces being used for law enforcement.My how times have changed.


They are not enforcing law in the exercise.
Bolshevik's  
Headhunter : 5/9/2015 10:48 am : link
That takes me back to my days working for Julius and Ethel Rosenberg as an organizer
RE: RE: I will say it's suprising to see the far left  
RC02XX : 5/9/2015 12:38 pm : link
In comment 12278955 JOrthman said:
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In comment 12278517 Great White Ghost said:


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give such widespread support for using armed forces for domestic law enforcement.That's one thing that was made clear in this thread.In the end though, I guess that's exactly what real bolsheviks do.Back in the day the left used to protest the armed forces being used for law enforcement.My how times have changed.



They are not enforcing law in the exercise.


What do you know about anything? You're just part of this crummy military that's kowtowing to the libs. Now the military back in the 80s...they were the true heroes.
I liked the movie  
JohnF : 5/9/2015 1:21 pm : link
and in any case, Kirk Douglas is still around to save us!

Unlike many here,  
River Mike : 5/9/2015 2:26 pm : link
I'm at a loss for words. I have never been good at confronting these grand conspiracy .... people. When something is just so absurd that its hard to know where to begin with a rational rebuttal, my jaw drops and I just stare at them blankly.
RE: Unlike many here,  
Klaatu : 5/9/2015 2:45 pm : link
In comment 12279154 River Mike said:
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I'm at a loss for words. I have never been good at confronting these grand conspiracy .... people. When something is just so absurd that its hard to know where to begin with a rational rebuttal, my jaw drops and I just stare at them blankly.


You fool! That's what they're counting on!
We all know the YouTube comments section is where you'll find  
j_rud : 5/9/2015 5:07 pm : link
quite literally the most misinformed, uneducated, and poorest attempts at communication in the free world.

Having said that, Risky Whiskey is on a whole 'nother level...

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I say we surround Austin like the Serbs did to Saraejvo and siege and press with snipers and mortars until they give up all their niggers, faggots, liberals and hippies. We'll march them out of the ruins in a giant column. We can impale them on pikes on the outskirts of the city until they rot-off


Sad to see that there's still people who think this way at this point. I don't normally say stuff like this but I wouldn't mind smacking this clown dead centre on his forehead with the blunt end of my Cold Steel kukri. That oughta clear some of the cobwebs out. If it didn't split his skull, of course.
I'm sorry,  
j_rud : 5/9/2015 5:09 pm : link
I had every intention of masking the highly inoffensive words in that quote and just forgot. Apologies if I've offended anyone.
What pisses me off about all of this...  
manh george : 5/9/2015 5:43 pm : link
is that after Jade Help is over the conspiracists will take credit for prevent our troops from being used for an invasion.

Its like the guy looking for elephants on Broadway, who then concludes that the reason he didn't find any was because they realized that he was on alert for their appearance.

Two obvious questions for the conspiracists that I haven't seen asked, or at least not enough:

1)Do you really think that a bunch of high-level, high-quality American military men would take part in an invasion of an American state?

2)Do you have any idea how insulting it is, to the members of the American military that you usually claim are heroes, to consider that as even possible?

Fucking idiots.
Helm, not Help.  
manh george : 5/9/2015 5:44 pm : link
My fingers aren't working.
"Are there Bolsheviks plotting to use the military against us?"  
Headhunter : 5/9/2015 6:37 pm : link
[img]https://jamesperloff.files.wordpress.com/2014/04/inherit-the-wind.jpg[/img0
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Headhunter : 5/9/2015 6:37 pm : link
RE: I'm sorry,  
Klaatu : 5/9/2015 6:40 pm : link
In comment 12279271 j_rud said:
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I had every intention of masking the highly inoffensive words in that quote and just forgot. Apologies if I've offended anyone.




You have offended my family,

And you have offended the Shao-Lin Temple.
RE: RE: I'm sorry,  
Jon : 5/9/2015 6:56 pm : link
In comment 12279330 Klaatu said:
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In comment 12279271 j_rud said:


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I had every intention of masking the highly inoffensive words in that quote and just forgot. Apologies if I've offended anyone.





You have offended my family,

And you have offended the Shao-Lin Temple.


We're not supposed to post poster's pics here. You better have Eric remove that before Ronnie sees it.
Yeah...like I'm fraidy-scared of Eric or Ronnie.  
Klaatu : 5/9/2015 7:10 pm : link


I'll bury those cockroaches.
Oh yeah?  
Jon : 5/9/2015 7:16 pm : link
How about some of THIS!:



Does that do anything for you? huh?

Go ahead  
Jon : 5/9/2015 7:18 pm : link
Give Eric a reason...



RE: Oh yeah?  
Klaatu : 5/9/2015 7:23 pm : link
In comment 12279365 Jon said:
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How about some of THIS!:



Does that do anything for you? huh?


Nope. Not a thing.

But this does:

RE: RE: Oh yeah?  
Jon : 5/9/2015 7:25 pm : link
In comment 12279375 Klaatu said:
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In comment 12279365 Jon said:


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How about some of THIS!:



Does that do anything for you? huh?




Nope. Not a thing.

But this does:



Ahhhh! A Moped fan huh? I believe that is a 08 Vespa GTS, Fire Engine Red...Nice dude, nice.
If you noticed the moped, turn in your Man Card.  
Klaatu : 5/9/2015 7:29 pm : link
If you were able to identify the moped...naaahhh, too easy.
RE: If you noticed the moped, turn in your Man Card.  
Jon : 5/9/2015 7:32 pm : link
In comment 12279385 Klaatu said:
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If you were able to identify the moped...naaahhh, too easy.


It would have been a lot easier if the shot wasn't obscured by the bicyclist. Who the hell i taking the video anyway?
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Bill2 : 5/9/2015 7:35 pm : link
To actually discuss something like "what's maybe good and or maybe bad about this?"

WE know the military is our best available organization able to solve logistical problems and execute complex operations and respond rapidly. This is useful in earthquakes, tornadoes, floods, etc. As many foreign nations have learned in humanitarian crisis.

We know that government interagency communications and coordination is often a problem in many nations and was a big problem pre 9\11 and Katrina.

We know that exercises are expensive and this one is on our soil so that saves us a few as compared to what it could have cost.

History would tell us that totalitarian inclined elites masked as communist or as fascists lose track of the boundaries between the military and the police.

we might consider that all all all institutions under any form of government are at their loosest when they have had years of budget and upward mobility and now have to find missions to keep them.

The last times huge buildups were at there wind down phase...we had the inner commitment to balance and rule of law to do things like fire McArthur and try Calley. ( just glib toss off examples for I cannot think of good analogs right now).

For me this is much less of a concern than one more accidental or careless flashpoint death during the long hot summer. This nation was permanently changed by the summers of 1965 to 1968. Right now has a similar feel after the pace and accumulation of recent unconnected "accidents" and "mistakes". As the 1960s proved...polarization is very very expensive for us all.



RE: RE: I'm sorry,  
j_rud : 5/9/2015 7:44 pm : link
In comment 12279330 Klaatu said:
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In comment 12279271 j_rud said:


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I had every intention of masking the highly inoffensive words in that quote and just forgot. Apologies if I've offended anyone.





You have offended my family,

And you have offended the Shao-Lin Temple.



Boards...don't hit back
Man, you come right out of a comic book.  
Klaatu : 5/9/2015 7:49 pm : link
....
Easily his best movie overall  
j_rud : 5/9/2015 7:53 pm : link
Although I loved the Chuck Norris fight in Way of the Dragon or the Kareem fight in Game of Death. Those two looked ridiculous next to each other.
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