The massive "Training excercise" to be conducted in 12 states,and involve special forces operators infiltraing local neighborhoods , including "Role players" as terrorists, disgruntled deranged armed vets, drug dealers, illegal aliens, "simulated" mass roundups and detentions scheduled between July 15th and Sept 15th to include special forces from all branches of the service, Marine corp, Army, State, local and federal law enforcement ,homeland security ,FEMA , FBI, CIA, DEA etc , seems to be losing support in the one sector of the Public they were sure would accept it, Texas. Increasingly local authorities are questioning whether they can opt out.It's just interesting the normal media outlets are silent.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2wdDZB0b7s& feature=youtu.be
And if anyone thinks that the Pentagon is somehow practicing to take over Texas or subjugate American citizens, they really need to stop drinking so much conspiracy koolaid.
Amid unfounded, Internet-fueled rumors that U.S. Special Operations Forces might be trying to take over parts of the southwest, Texas Gov. Greg Abbott ordered Texas State Guard forces under his control to keep an eye on the U.S. military during a large upcoming training exercise.
The exercise is called Jade Helm 15.
"It is important that Texans know their safety, constitutional rights, private property rights and civil liberties will not be infringed," Abbott said in an April 28 letter to Major Gen. Gerald "Jake" Betty, commander of the guard.
Abbott ordered the guard to "monitor" the eight week-long exercise which begins in July and ends in September, across seven states. In Texas, Utah and New Mexico most of the training will take place on private land. In Arizona, Florida, Louisiana and Mississippi, much of it will take place on military installations.
Some of the concerns are fueled by Internet posting of a map said to be made up for the exercise which shows Texas in bright red and lists it as "hostile" territory. The scenario for the exercise is that U.S. special operations forces travel to another continent which includes hostile nations and work with rebel underground freedom fighters there.
The question for many is do Americans need to have their civil liberties protected from involvement by the U.S. military. U.S. military officials tell CNN they welcome the state guard working with them to coordinate the exercise operations in Texas, but that one sentence in the governor's letter is without foundation.
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disgruntled deranged armed vets
this can't be real..
"Yoink!"
I mean, I can see how you think someone posting about it is nuts, because the Army and the Navy and the airforce and homeland security and special ops work with law enforcement at the state local and federal leverl all the time, right? I mean it's commonplace, no?12 state wide military exercise, never done before,violates Posse comitatus if nothing else, but hey, fuck the law, and you've got to be batshit insane to put up some info about something that's never been done in this country before, without comment. Cause it happens all the time.And I'm insane. not you.ok.
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You probably need a better, tinfoil helmet.
Is there something in the post you dispute? I put up a video of an army coloenel, i gave a breif description of the context of the excericise. Not sure what you're disputing, that it's taking place, that it is of the scale represented, what, actually?I made you basically said I laid out a consrpiracy theory, or something, I'm not seeing it in the OP. There isn't anything in there the armed forces or FEMA or dept of justice haven't acknowledged already.That leaves the comment about there being opposition from local communities. So, there is none, and everyone supports it, or if you don't support it there is something wrong with you? What exactly are you saying, other than saying what I posted isn't credible? That's a lone isolated town hall meeting and all the other ones are different? Or that it's peculiar to Texas?
I mean, I can see how you think someone posting about it is nuts, because the Army and the Navy and the airforce and homeland security and special ops work with law enforcement at the state local and federal leverl all the time, right? I mean it's commonplace, no?12 state wide military exercise, never done before,violates Posse comitatus if nothing else, but hey, fuck the law, and you've got to be batshit insane to put up some info about something that's never been done in this country before, without comment. Cause it happens all the time.And I'm insane. not you.ok.
You start a provocative thread that appears to be intended towards questioning the validity and legitimacy of a military exercise by posting a single video of townhall meeting opposed to the exercise and declaring that normal media hasn't covered this when there have actually been multiple mainstream media that covered the story and debunked your very notion (like the one I linked).
Sometimes newer exercises get developed in an attempt to meet emerging situations. No one in our military is trying to train to invade any of our towns, cities, or even states. And as terrorism remains a threat to this nation, more and more interagency/interorganization coordination need to be practiced to meet these threats. If they never coordinated like this, people would complain that our government sucks because they can't work together.
As evidenced by the reaction on this thread, people see right through your attempts at trying to start a controversy when there really isn't one. This is a muchadoaboutnothing story that only those, who want to look for conspiracies will find interesting.
WARNING: This is an article from an avowed left wing rag whose sole purpose is to distribute such lies and half truths in support of the government campaign to place the US of A under martial law and who have already entered into a conspiracy to sap and impurify all of our precious bodily fluids.
It's a conspiracy - ( New Window )
LA Times OpEd piece: http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-walker-jade-helm-conspiracies-20150507-story.html
New York Times piece: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/07/us/conspiracy-theories-over-jade-helm-get-some-traction-in-texas.html?_r=0
Washington Post piece: http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2015/03/31/why-the-new-special-operations-exercise-freaking-out-the-internet-is-no-big-deal/
Examiner piece: http://www.examiner.com/article/jade-helm-15-is-not-cover-for-martial-law
CBSNews piece: http://www.cbsnews.com/news/jade-helm-15-army-war-simulation-in-texas-sparks-fear-response-from-governor/
The Texas Tribune piece: http://www.texastribune.org/2015/05/04/abbott-defends-jade-helm-15-decision/
These are just few of the many mainstream media articles that debunk the Right Wing conspiracy theories regarding this exercise being a trial run at implementing martial law.
Think about it. The timing is perfect.
Just follow the money.
Think about it. The timing is perfect.
So which side are you on? The Dark Side with the Emperor (pun intended)? Or with the Rebel Alliance?
Actually, I think it's sexier to be on the Dark Side. Would you like to be led by that biatch Luke Skywalker and his goody-goody rebels? Or the ultimate tyrants, the Emperor and Darth Vader?
RC02XX : 8:19 am : link : reply
Oh my God! Lyndon LaRouche was right!
Dey wont take are jerbs!
Far out, Manh!
It's all right there if you just open your eyes... Northwoods, black flag, bin laden, and now this...open your eyes sheeple!
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over the rest of the country using "Order 88" (there used to be a site that had a .pdf copy of the secret order, but it's been taken down...much like his birth certificate). He will then abolish congress and declare himself emperor for life of these united states.
Think about it. The timing is perfect.
So which side are you on? The Dark Side with the Emperor (pun intended)? Or with the Rebel Alliance?
That's racist.
That's racist.
I can't be racist. I'm a minority. We all know that being racist is exclusively a white people thing...duh!
If not, about 400 other people probably asked to have his account deleted...
RC02XX : 10:26 am : link : reply
I always expect brownstone to show up. But I just noticed that his handle doesn't exist anymore. Did he asked to have his account deleted?
Have you not been reading what our government is doing? Sure. His handle just got....... "deleted." More like his entire existence.
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I always expect brownstone to show up. But I just noticed that his handle doesn't exist anymore. Did he asked to have his account deleted?
If not, about 400 other people probably asked to have his account deleted...
Probably. But I was hoping that his mea culpa and assertion that he will do better were genuine. And maybe he left so that he can humble himself a bit...but, hey...I'm a glass is half full guy when it comes to people.