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Did Army miscalculate support for Jade Helm 15?

Great White Ghost : 5/6/2015 10:52 pm
The massive "Training excercise" to be conducted in 12 states,and involve special forces operators infiltraing local neighborhoods , including "Role players" as terrorists, disgruntled deranged armed vets, drug dealers, illegal aliens, "simulated" mass roundups and detentions scheduled between July 15th and Sept 15th to include special forces from all branches of the service, Marine corp, Army, State, local and federal law enforcement ,homeland security ,FEMA , FBI, CIA, DEA etc , seems to be losing support in the one sector of the Public they were sure would accept it, Texas. Increasingly local authorities are questioning whether they can opt out.It's just interesting the normal media outlets are silent.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2wdDZB0b7s& feature=youtu.be
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Is this an Alex Jones forum?  
K-Gun? Pop-Gun : 5/6/2015 10:59 pm : link
At the very least, it's political.
holy crap you are insane  
Dave in MD : 5/6/2015 11:02 pm : link
your name should be great white nut job
They definitely miscalculated in not securing Chuck Norris' support.  
Mad Mike : 5/6/2015 11:07 pm : link
He might singlehandedly roundhouse kick it out of action.
Yeah...somehow I think you missed this normal media outlet...  
RC02XX : 5/6/2015 11:10 pm : link
covering this exact story yesterday.

And if anyone thinks that the Pentagon is somehow practicing to take over Texas or subjugate American citizens, they really need to stop drinking so much conspiracy koolaid.

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Washington (CNN)Don't mess with Texas -- even if it's just an exercise.

Amid unfounded, Internet-fueled rumors that U.S. Special Operations Forces might be trying to take over parts of the southwest, Texas Gov. Greg Abbott ordered Texas State Guard forces under his control to keep an eye on the U.S. military during a large upcoming training exercise.

The exercise is called Jade Helm 15.

"It is important that Texans know their safety, constitutional rights, private property rights and civil liberties will not be infringed," Abbott said in an April 28 letter to Major Gen. Gerald "Jake" Betty, commander of the guard.

Abbott ordered the guard to "monitor" the eight week-long exercise which begins in July and ends in September, across seven states. In Texas, Utah and New Mexico most of the training will take place on private land. In Arizona, Florida, Louisiana and Mississippi, much of it will take place on military installations.

Some of the concerns are fueled by Internet posting of a map said to be made up for the exercise which shows Texas in bright red and lists it as "hostile" territory. The scenario for the exercise is that U.S. special operations forces travel to another continent which includes hostile nations and work with rebel underground freedom fighters there.

The question for many is do Americans need to have their civil liberties protected from involvement by the U.S. military. U.S. military officials tell CNN they welcome the state guard working with them to coordinate the exercise operations in Texas, but that one sentence in the governor's letter is without foundation.

Link - ( New Window )
training for the inevitable  
Giantsfan79 : 5/6/2015 11:14 pm : link
invasion of Iran.
I'm hurt.  
CT Charlie : 5/6/2015 11:46 pm : link
The Feds don't consider Connecticut important enough to invade.
#1 sign your state is fucked:  
Stu11 : 5/6/2015 11:57 pm : link
your governor takes his marching orders from Alex Jones...Congrats Texas!
Federalization of the Local and State Police  
pinyin : 5/7/2015 12:12 am : link
How soon we forget that 911 was also a just a drill.

disgruntled deranged armed vets

this can't be real..

I think the chemtrails have started to affect your brain, dude  
Gary from The East End : Admin : 5/7/2015 12:17 am : link
You probably need a better, tinfoil helmet.
Why do you  
Nick in LA : 5/7/2015 12:30 am : link
put so much in quotations? Are you saying you dont believe this is an exercise? If so...... There really is nothing else to say, you are too far gone.
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Nick in LA : 5/7/2015 12:32 am : link
I was reading this on Yahoo  
Mason : 5/7/2015 1:09 am : link
Even Rick Perry was like Come on guys this makes Texans look like wackos. #Extremepoliticsmeetfringesociety
Who wants to see me hit some dingers?  
Model4001 : 5/7/2015 1:12 am : link

"Yoink!"
RE: I think the chemtrails have started to affect your brain, dude  
Great White Ghost : 5/7/2015 3:58 am : link
In comment 12275047 Gary from The East End said:
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You probably need a better, tinfoil helmet.
Is there something in the post you dispute? I put up a video of an army coloenel, i gave a breif description of the context of the excericise. Not sure what you're disputing, that it's taking place, that it is of the scale represented, what, actually?I made you basically said I laid out a consrpiracy theory, or something, I'm not seeing it in the OP. There isn't anything in there the armed forces or FEMA or dept of justice haven't acknowledged already.That leaves the comment about there being opposition from local communities. So, there is none, and everyone supports it, or if you don't support it there is something wrong with you? What exactly are you saying, other than saying what I posted isn't credible? That's a lone isolated town hall meeting and all the other ones are different? Or that it's peculiar to Texas?

I mean, I can see how you think someone posting about it is nuts, because the Army and the Navy and the airforce and homeland security and special ops work with law enforcement at the state local and federal leverl all the time, right? I mean it's commonplace, no?12 state wide military exercise, never done before,violates Posse comitatus if nothing else, but hey, fuck the law, and you've got to be batshit insane to put up some info about something that's never been done in this country before, without comment. Cause it happens all the time.And I'm insane. not you.ok.
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Wuphat : 5/7/2015 5:45 am : link
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Wuphat : 5/7/2015 5:45 am : link
Crazy people don't know  
eli10 : 5/7/2015 7:28 am : link
their crazy.
They are coming to take our  
Headhunter : 5/7/2015 7:49 am : link
guns and ammo. I'm ready to die so your children can keep their AK-47
RE: RE: I think the chemtrails have started to affect your brain, dude  
RC02XX : 5/7/2015 7:56 am : link
In comment 12275079 Great White Ghost said:
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In comment 12275047 Gary from The East End said:


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You probably need a better, tinfoil helmet.

Is there something in the post you dispute? I put up a video of an army coloenel, i gave a breif description of the context of the excericise. Not sure what you're disputing, that it's taking place, that it is of the scale represented, what, actually?I made you basically said I laid out a consrpiracy theory, or something, I'm not seeing it in the OP. There isn't anything in there the armed forces or FEMA or dept of justice haven't acknowledged already.That leaves the comment about there being opposition from local communities. So, there is none, and everyone supports it, or if you don't support it there is something wrong with you? What exactly are you saying, other than saying what I posted isn't credible? That's a lone isolated town hall meeting and all the other ones are different? Or that it's peculiar to Texas?

I mean, I can see how you think someone posting about it is nuts, because the Army and the Navy and the airforce and homeland security and special ops work with law enforcement at the state local and federal leverl all the time, right? I mean it's commonplace, no?12 state wide military exercise, never done before,violates Posse comitatus if nothing else, but hey, fuck the law, and you've got to be batshit insane to put up some info about something that's never been done in this country before, without comment. Cause it happens all the time.And I'm insane. not you.ok.


You start a provocative thread that appears to be intended towards questioning the validity and legitimacy of a military exercise by posting a single video of townhall meeting opposed to the exercise and declaring that normal media hasn't covered this when there have actually been multiple mainstream media that covered the story and debunked your very notion (like the one I linked).

Sometimes newer exercises get developed in an attempt to meet emerging situations. No one in our military is trying to train to invade any of our towns, cities, or even states. And as terrorism remains a threat to this nation, more and more interagency/interorganization coordination need to be practiced to meet these threats. If they never coordinated like this, people would complain that our government sucks because they can't work together.

As evidenced by the reaction on this thread, people see right through your attempts at trying to start a controversy when there really isn't one. This is a muchadoaboutnothing story that only those, who want to look for conspiracies will find interesting.
The Bildberg Group  
Headhunter : 5/7/2015 8:00 am : link
approves GWG's message
Maybe it's Kismet...  
BMac : 5/7/2015 8:06 am : link
...but a link to a review of Orson Welles in the New Republic had the linked article listed in its sidebar.

WARNING: This is an article from an avowed left wing rag whose sole purpose is to distribute such lies and half truths in support of the government campaign to place the US of A under martial law and who have already entered into a conspiracy to sap and impurify all of our precious bodily fluids.

It's a conspiracy - ( New Window )
Since your argument is that this isn't being covered by the media...  
RC02XX : 5/7/2015 8:19 am : link
If you would have used your awesome googling skills, you would have found more legitimate sources than a single video of some irate Texans. Actually even a novice googler could have come up with these stories since they are pretty much the first results on google:

LA Times OpEd piece: http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-walker-jade-helm-conspiracies-20150507-story.html

New York Times piece: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/07/us/conspiracy-theories-over-jade-helm-get-some-traction-in-texas.html?_r=0

Washington Post piece: http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2015/03/31/why-the-new-special-operations-exercise-freaking-out-the-internet-is-no-big-deal/

Examiner piece: http://www.examiner.com/article/jade-helm-15-is-not-cover-for-martial-law

CBSNews piece: http://www.cbsnews.com/news/jade-helm-15-army-war-simulation-in-texas-sparks-fear-response-from-governor/

The Texas Tribune piece: http://www.texastribune.org/2015/05/04/abbott-defends-jade-helm-15-decision/

These are just few of the many mainstream media articles that debunk the Right Wing conspiracy theories regarding this exercise being a trial run at implementing martial law.
It's obvious that Obama is taking  
Cam in MO : 5/7/2015 9:00 am : link
over the rest of the country using "Order 88" (there used to be a site that had a .pdf copy of the secret order, but it's been taken down...much like his birth certificate). He will then abolish congress and declare himself emperor for life of these united states.

Think about it. The timing is perfect.





The whole operation sounds a bit like a video game...  
okiegiant : 5/7/2015 9:01 am : link
I expect this could be the concept for Battlefield 5!
And he's also been heavily investing in GMO's,  
Cam in MO : 5/7/2015 9:02 am : link
vaccines that cause autism, gluten, and of course death panels.

Just follow the money.


RE: It's obvious that Obama is taking  
RC02XX : 5/7/2015 9:05 am : link
In comment 12275229 Cam in MO said:
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over the rest of the country using "Order 88" (there used to be a site that had a .pdf copy of the secret order, but it's been taken down...much like his birth certificate). He will then abolish congress and declare himself emperor for life of these united states.

Think about it. The timing is perfect.


So which side are you on? The Dark Side with the Emperor (pun intended)? Or with the Rebel Alliance?

I like the whole be a rebel and fight the evil government concept...  
okiegiant : 5/7/2015 9:11 am : link
but the dark side has cookies, so...
I'm going Dark Side  
Stu11 : 5/7/2015 9:21 am : link
it's sexy to be on the rebel's side, but it's such a godamn uphill battle. I'm older now I realize it's better to play from ahead...
We can only hope  
kicker : 5/7/2015 9:41 am : link
that they limit internet access during this drill, GreatWhitePower.
'La'el Collins is Meeting with the Cowboys'  
sphinx : 5/7/2015 9:43 am : link
writes Eric from BBI. Is it possible Eric, along with Walmart, is tied into Jade Helm's obvious attempted takeover of Texas? Is Eric somehow tied in the general often referred to as 'Jerrah'? Is this whole Texas takeover thing an attempt to rid the state of the Houston Texans? Are Jerrah and Eric behind it all? Please note, the mainstream media hasn't covered this possibility at all ... and we all know what that means ... it has a ring of truth.



If the federal Gov't wanted to take over Texas  
scouser : 5/7/2015 9:43 am : link
all they need to do is give the order to all the troops that are already in Texas at bases like Fort Hood. It appears that the Governor of Texas is listening to the crazies. Louie Gohmert for President(?).
RE: I'm going Dark Side  
RC02XX : 5/7/2015 9:44 am : link
In comment 12275272 Stu11 said:
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it's sexy to be on the rebel's side, but it's such a godamn uphill battle. I'm older now I realize it's better to play from ahead...


Actually, I think it's sexier to be on the Dark Side. Would you like to be led by that biatch Luke Skywalker and his goody-goody rebels? Or the ultimate tyrants, the Emperor and Darth Vader?
Oooooo. And that's a special slice of stupid from  
kicker : 5/7/2015 9:44 am : link
pinyin.
#rekt  
GiantFilthy : 5/7/2015 9:56 am : link
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Since your argument is that this isn't being covered by the media...
RC02XX : 8:19 am : link : reply
Oh, no!  
Deej : 5/7/2015 10:00 am : link
Aliens, bio-duplication, nude conspiracies

Oh my God! Lyndon LaRouche was right!
He sure was.  
manh george : 5/7/2015 10:04 am : link
Far right.
I'll just leave this right here...  
RC02XX : 5/7/2015 10:06 am : link
If Obama takes over Texas,  
TheBigBlueOne : 5/7/2015 10:07 am : link
like, would the Cowboys go bye-bye?
No.  
manh george : 5/7/2015 10:09 am : link
They would change their name to the Dallas Kenyans, in honor of his birthplace.
And fuck! I completely forgot about the FEMA  
Cam in MO : 5/7/2015 10:09 am : link
death camps for those of us that will stand and fight!


Dey wont take are jerbs!


It is time...  
Chris in Philly : 5/7/2015 10:11 am : link
RE: He sure was.  
BMac : 5/7/2015 10:13 am : link
In comment 12275378 manh george said:
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Far right.


Far out, Manh!
Baaaa sheep  
Jon : 5/7/2015 10:15 am : link
Baaaaa!

It's all right there if you just open your eyes... Northwoods, black flag, bin laden, and now this...open your eyes sheeple!
RE: RE: It's obvious that Obama is taking  
Jon : 5/7/2015 10:16 am : link
In comment 12275242 RC02XX said:
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In comment 12275229 Cam in MO said:


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over the rest of the country using "Order 88" (there used to be a site that had a .pdf copy of the secret order, but it's been taken down...much like his birth certificate). He will then abolish congress and declare himself emperor for life of these united states.

Think about it. The timing is perfect.



So which side are you on? The Dark Side with the Emperor (pun intended)? Or with the Rebel Alliance?



That's racist.
RE: RE: RE: It's obvious that Obama is taking  
RC02XX : 5/7/2015 10:17 am : link
In comment 12275403 Jon said:
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So which side are you on? The Dark Side with the Emperor (pun intended)? Or with the Rebel Alliance?



That's racist.


I can't be racist. I'm a minority. We all know that being racist is exclusively a white people thing...duh!
Re  
LakeGeorgeGiant : 5/7/2015 10:22 am : link
Anytime some controversial thread about our government pops up...  
RC02XX : 5/7/2015 10:26 am : link
I always expect brownstone to show up. But I just noticed that his handle doesn't exist anymore. Did he asked to have his account deleted?
RE: Anytime some controversial thread about our government pops up...  
Chris in Philly : 5/7/2015 10:29 am : link
In comment 12275429 RC02XX said:
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I always expect brownstone to show up. But I just noticed that his handle doesn't exist anymore. Did he asked to have his account deleted?


If not, about 400 other people probably asked to have his account deleted...
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GiantFilthy : 5/7/2015 10:32 am : link
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Anytime some controversial thread about our government pops up...
RC02XX : 10:26 am : link : reply
I always expect brownstone to show up. But I just noticed that his handle doesn't exist anymore. Did he asked to have his account deleted?


Have you not been reading what our government is doing? Sure. His handle just got....... "deleted." More like his entire existence.
RE: RE: Anytime some controversial thread about our government pops up...  
RC02XX : 5/7/2015 10:33 am : link
In comment 12275439 Chris in Philly said:
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In comment 12275429 RC02XX said:


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I always expect brownstone to show up. But I just noticed that his handle doesn't exist anymore. Did he asked to have his account deleted?



If not, about 400 other people probably asked to have his account deleted...


Probably. But I was hoping that his mea culpa and assertion that he will do better were genuine. And maybe he left so that he can humble himself a bit...but, hey...I'm a glass is half full guy when it comes to people.
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