Did Army miscalculate support for Jade Helm 15?

In comment 12275441 GiantFilthy said:

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Quote: Anytime some controversial thread about our government pops up... RC02XX : 10:26 am : link : reply I always expect brownstone to show up. But I just noticed that his handle doesn't exist anymore. Did he asked to have his account deleted? Have you not been reading what our government is doing? Sure. His handle just got....... "deleted." More like his entire existence.

And so it begins.

Now, if Jade Helm takes place, and they don't take over anything, the conspiracy theorists will claim that their warning to the country prevented the takeover.

these guys come back




And don't all you wing-nuts who did take part in the drills come crying to us who did and thus were prepared for this scenario

In comment 12275451 manh george said:

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Now, if Jade Helm takes place, and they don't take over anything, the conspiracy theorists will claim that their warning to the country prevented the takeover.

Actually, in five years it will just be added to a content free list of items in a name check. The mere mentioning of Jade Helm will be considered sufficient to make the point.

In comment 12275324 RC02XX said:

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I Actually, I think it's sexier to be on the Dark Side. Would you like to be led by that biatch Luke Skywalker and his goody-goody rebels? Or the ultimate tyrants, the Emperor and Darth Vader?

Hmmm good point Ronnie. Darth Vader is badass.

''I'm hurt.
CT Charlie : 5/6/2015 11:46 pm : link : reply

The Feds don't consider Connecticut important enough to invade.''

I would suggest that the prevalence of bad drivers in New Jersey is a threat to our National Security. With the exception on North Bergen, of course, all New Jersians holding drivers liscenses should be rounded up, by Special Ops, if necessary, and forced to undergo a 3 year driver training program/etiquette and cooking camp. Additionally, New Jersians should not be allowed to drive within New York or Boston City Limits, even after their 're-education.'

Also- big hair, overly large Chrysler sedans, Uggs Footwear and screaming too loud during youth sports events- banned.

Red(white & blue)Dawn. "Avenge me"!

so, a corridor would have to be cordoned off, allowing those from the honorable state of New York access to the game. Ronnie, get on that- stat.

And Ronnie, you owe us a Kimche thread, yo.

In comment 12275467 idiotsavant said:

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I would suggest that the prevalence of bad drivers in New Jersey is a threat to our National Security. With the exception on North Bergen, of course, all New Jersians holding drivers liscenses should be rounded up, by Special Ops, if necessary, and forced to undergo a 3 year driver training program/etiquette and cooking camp. Additionally, New Jersians should not be allowed to drive within New York or Boston City Limits, even after their 're-education.'

If Jersey drivers are a threat to national security, the mere possibility of driving in Boston should cause an immediate declaration of DefCom 4.

In comment 12275478 idiotsavant said:

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so, a corridor would have to be cordoned off, allowing those from the honorable state of New York access to the game. Ronnie, get on that- stat. And Ronnie, you owe us a Kimche thread, yo.

That's f'cking racist, yo. And it's spelled kimchi or kimchee.

In comment 12275467 idiotsavant said:

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''I'm hurt. CT Charlie : 5/6/2015 11:46 pm : link : reply The Feds don't consider Connecticut important enough to invade.'' I would suggest that the prevalence of bad drivers in New Jersey is a threat to our National Security. With the exception on North Bergen, of course, all New Jersians holding drivers liscenses should be rounded up, by Special Ops, if necessary, and forced to undergo a 3 year driver training program/etiquette and cooking camp. Additionally, New Jersians should not be allowed to drive within New York or Boston City Limits, even after their 're-education.' Also- big hair, overly large Chrysler sedans, Uggs Footwear and screaming too loud during youth sports events- banned.

OMFG, man! Are you insane?

Even after three years of intensive training can you imagine the chaos that would ensue should they be forced to actually turn left at an intersection?

fuggin hungry, yo.

related to GWG's expectations from this thread. Bad call, Ghost

In comment 12275520 idiotsavant said:

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Now I gotta get me a pair o' them pants!

That brief shot of the woman shaking her head with her palm on her face pretty much sums this all up.

The govts own exercise maps have given some people cause for concern.The fact they labeled the conservative states as hostile and the liberal states as friendly, and how friendly or hostile each state is based on how liberal or conservative they are IRL is certainly a coincidence, I'm sure.

The military generally trains for the type of operations and in the type of environment they expect to operate in. The argument is made that were they training for an overseas deployment, they would use someplace Like Ft Irwin, where they simulate entire foreign cities.It's not likely training for overseas deployments would involve FEMA, state and local law enforcement.Say whatever you like but if you think this is an exercise simulating anything other than a deployment of these forces and these agencies on US soil you're jerking yourselves off.Pump away.

So this training seems like overkill.

In comment 12275920 Great White Ghost said:

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The govts own exercise maps have given some people cause for concern.The fact they labeled the conservative states as hostile and the liberal states as friendly, and how friendly or hostile each state is based on how liberal or conservative they are IRL is certainly a coincidence, I'm sure. The military generally trains for the type of operations and in the type of environment they expect to operate in. The argument is made that were they training for an overseas deployment, they would use someplace Like Ft Irwin, where they simulate entire foreign cities.It's not likely training for overseas deployments would involve FEMA, state and local law enforcement.Say whatever you like but if you think this is an exercise simulating anything other than a deployment of these forces and these agencies on US soil you're jerking yourselves off.Pump away.

Just based on that map, your first paragraph is wrong. AZ is solidly Republican while NM is relatively split, but trends Democratic recently. Also, you must have just ignored the insurgent pocket in southern CA. Nice try though.

As an aside, this might be one of the dumbest "controversies" to get headlines in the non-crazy people media in a long time.

In comment 12275920 Great White Ghost said:

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The govts own exercise maps have given some people cause for concern.The fact they labeled the conservative states as hostile and the liberal states as friendly, and how friendly or hostile each state is based on how liberal or conservative they are IRL is certainly a coincidence, I'm sure. The military generally trains for the type of operations and in the type of environment they expect to operate in. The argument is made that were they training for an overseas deployment, they would use someplace Like Ft Irwin, where they simulate entire foreign cities.It's not likely training for overseas deployments would involve FEMA, state and local law enforcement.Say whatever you like but if you think this is an exercise simulating anything other than a deployment of these forces and these agencies on US soil you're jerking yourselves off.Pump away.

Bahahaha!

Just think about how stupid what you're suggesting is.

Do you really think that a bunch of 18-25yr old soldiers and marines willingly "take over" red states, just because...well, becuase Obama! I mean, we all know that infantry in the armed forces have always been historically liberal hippie types...

That's just so horribly stupid. Can you provide me with your credentials as far as knowing where oversea deployment training "should" be taking place? Obviously you know much more about how it should be done than command does.

Fucking idiot.

Anyone else find it odd that we haven't heard from him since the Texas Mohammed incident?

Hmmmmm....

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Thanks for posting!

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The military generally trains for the type of operations and in the type of environment they expect to operate in. The argument is made that were they training for an overseas deployment, they would use someplace Like Ft Irwin, where they simulate entire foreign cities.

I wonder if there's any area overseas that we're currently having 'issues' with that resembles the SW United states climate?

Naahhh, must be planning a takeover.

It's so obvious. The military is preparing for an alien invasion and needed the perfect stand in.

a guy, who thinks that he knows what's going on because of his irrelevant and outdated experience along with a shitty ability to google.

We sort of turned this thread into an entertaining joke thread to spare you the fact that we're laughing at you and your conspiracy mindset, but alas, you want to actually get laughed at.

Nothing that is going on with this upcoming exercise has anything to do with martial law, no matter if the map says an area is a "red" state. The ability to separate the make belief exercise scenario material from the legitimate real life material (i.e. smoking gun map that you think you found) separates the sophomoric thinkers from critical thinkers. Guess which group you fall into.

But I have to thank you for the entertainment today. So thanks, brah.

That map has to be a real map issued by the government for this excersize! Why else would Google have it? It's authentic man!

the military has always used certain colors to denote enemies, friendlies, etc. This is elementary military symbology/color scheme that even a brand new E1-E2 would know. It's unfortunate that idiots are reading into the coincidence of the military color scheme being similar to that of our political parties. But even an idiot with an ounce of common sense (or at least people without an agenda or ax to grind with the current administration) would be able to tell the difference.

According to Vox (and they describe is concisely and well):

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It sounds like a Magic: The Gathering card or a Dungeons & Dragons artifact, but Jade Helm 15 is what the Defense Department calls a realistic military training (RMT) exercise. According to the Pentagon, American special operations forces will do some make-believe counterinsurgency in the Southwestern United States. The scenario planning includes this slide, which, if you are reading it very literally and completely out of context, could be construed as an effort to label the conservative states of Utah and Texas as hostile territory primed for a military takeover. Related to some of the conspiracy theorizing is that hostile territory is colored in red and friendly territory is in blue. In military exercises it's convention to label the hostile force the red team; this convention, by coincidence, lines up with the post-2000 convention of labeling Republican-held states as red and Democratic-held ones as blue, and that's helped fan the flames of paranoia about President Obama trying to occupy Texas. Even Chuck Norris is worried.

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for friendly forces (Blue Force Tracker for example)

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I'm dumb. and slow.

In comment 12276090 Jon said:

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for friendly forces (Blue Force Tracker for example)

Well...he was an 0352 back in the 80's, so we know he isn't too bright. Well, definitely brighter than other 03's, but that doesn't say much.

In comment 12276055 RC02XX said:

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a guy, who thinks that he knows what's going on because of his irrelevant and outdated experience along with a shitty ability to google. We sort of turned this thread into an entertaining joke thread to spare you the fact that we're laughing at you and your conspiracy mindset, but alas, you want to actually get laughed at. Nothing that is going on with this upcoming exercise has anything to do with martial law, no matter if the map says an area is a "red" state. The ability to separate the make belief exercise scenario material from the legitimate real life material (i.e. smoking gun map that you think you found) separates the sophomoric thinkers from critical thinkers. Guess which group you fall into. But I have to thank you for the entertainment today. So thanks, brah.

I mentioned martial law? really. As far as your opinion your an imbecile, and a liar, so I aint worried about it.You put words in my mouth, then respond. If you're the resident authority, believe me, I'm not worried about what the children think, least of all you, who I have no respect for whatsoever.
I put a post up, made 1 or 2 points, none of which even drew an intelligent response, and instead got shitloads of comments on what wasn't said, what you thought might be implied.I still find it telling that what WAS said drew nothing. Half a day and you morons have NOTHING. You're plain and simply full of shit, like most of the imbeciles on this thread.You respond to that which wasn't said, and don't respond to what is said.You can have jon rim your asshole all day for all I care, but I think you're an idiot.

In comment 12276111 Great White Ghost said:

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In comment 12276055 RC02XX said: Quote: a guy, who thinks that he knows what's going on because of his irrelevant and outdated experience along with a shitty ability to google. We sort of turned this thread into an entertaining joke thread to spare you the fact that we're laughing at you and your conspiracy mindset, but alas, you want to actually get laughed at. Nothing that is going on with this upcoming exercise has anything to do with martial law, no matter if the map says an area is a "red" state. The ability to separate the make belief exercise scenario material from the legitimate real life material (i.e. smoking gun map that you think you found) separates the sophomoric thinkers from critical thinkers. Guess which group you fall into. But I have to thank you for the entertainment today. So thanks, brah. I mentioned martial law? really. As far as your opinion your an imbecile, and a liar, so I aint worried about it.You put words in my mouth, then respond. If you're the resident authority, believe me, I'm not worried about what the children think, least of all you, who I have no respect for whatsoever. I put a post up, made 1 or 2 points, none of which even drew an intelligent response, and instead got shitloads of comments on what wasn't said, what you thought might be implied.I still find it telling that what WAS said drew nothing. Half a day and you morons have NOTHING. You're plain and simply full of shit, like most of the imbeciles on this thread.You respond to that which wasn't said, and don't respond to what is said.You can have jon rim your asshole all day for all I care, but I think you're an idiot.

You see, right there is another reason we should be worried about these excersizes. First, they come for the guns, and before you know it, you're not even allowed to rim your buddies asshole anymore!

For this, we must fight!

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In comment 12276111 Great White Ghost said:

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In comment 12276055 RC02XX said: Quote: a guy, who thinks that he knows what's going on because of his irrelevant and outdated experience along with a shitty ability to google. We sort of turned this thread into an entertaining joke thread to spare you the fact that we're laughing at you and your conspiracy mindset, but alas, you want to actually get laughed at. Nothing that is going on with this upcoming exercise has anything to do with martial law, no matter if the map says an area is a "red" state. The ability to separate the make belief exercise scenario material from the legitimate real life material (i.e. smoking gun map that you think you found) separates the sophomoric thinkers from critical thinkers. Guess which group you fall into. But I have to thank you for the entertainment today. So thanks, brah. I mentioned martial law? really. As far as your opinion your an imbecile, and a liar, so I aint worried about it.You put words in my mouth, then respond. If you're the resident authority, believe me, I'm not worried about what the children think, least of all you, who I have no respect for whatsoever. I put a post up, made 1 or 2 points, none of which even drew an intelligent response, and instead got shitloads of comments on what wasn't said, what you thought might be implied.I still find it telling that what WAS said drew nothing. Half a day and you morons have NOTHING. You're plain and simply full of shit, like most of the imbeciles on this thread.You respond to that which wasn't said, and don't respond to what is said.You can have jon rim your asshole all day for all I care, but I think you're an idiot.

So what exactly was the purpose of starting this thread? What was the purpose of only linking a video of irate Texans and claiming that the media wasn't tracking this? When what was the purpose of stating:

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The military generally trains for the type of operations and in the type of environment they expect to operate in. The argument is made that were they training for an overseas deployment, they would use someplace Like Ft Irwin, where they simulate entire foreign cities.It's not likely training for overseas deployments would involve FEMA, state and local law enforcement.Say whatever you like but if you think this is an exercise simulating anything other than a deployment of these forces and these agencies on US soil you're jerking yourselves off.Pump away.

Which is your own post purporting to this exercise being simulating deployment on US soil.

I am actually glad that you don't respect me because if you did, I would have to off myself for having some jackass actually agree with me.

Go away, man. Almost everyone (minus pinyin) sees you as a freaking joke on BBI and a racist at that from your posting history. Or stay and continue to be the butt of jokes.

Maybe some place fancy...Olive Garden perhaps?

for a grown adult, you argue like a 10 year old. If you don't get your way and are confronted with the truth, you lose your cool and throw a tantrum. When 99% of the people responding to your OP are laughing at you, you should look in the mirror to see the imbecile instead of calling everyone else that. But hey, continue with your logic. It's served you very well in all discussions you've been involved in.

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Maybe some place fancy...Olive Garden perhaps?

Only if you bring Brett.

In comment 12276172 RC02XX said:

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In comment 12276167 Jon said: Quote: Maybe some place fancy...Olive Garden perhaps? Only if you bring Brett.

I can't speak for him, but he should be around shortly. Brett performs a search for his name every 15 minutes. But more than likely, he's down.

In comment 12276208 Jon said:

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In comment 12276172 RC02XX said: Quote: In comment 12276167 Jon said: Quote: Maybe some place fancy...Olive Garden perhaps? Only if you bring Brett. I can't speak for him, but he should be around shortly. Brett performs a search for his name every 15 minutes. But more than likely, he's down.

Awesome. We'll show those fascist government that they may take our lives, but they will never take our right to rim our friends!!!

In comment 12275042 pinyin said:

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How soon we forget that 911 was also a just a drill. disgruntled deranged armed vets this can't be real..

I know Great White Power is the bigger target, but why this piece of crap still gets to post is a good question.

This thread is so great. First he poses as a sane person, posting Glen Beck style "questions".

Then, when challenged, he cites the Posse Comitatus Act (incorrectly, in that Posse Comitatus forbids usage of federal armed forces as law enforcement in a domestic capacity, while Jade Helm is a training exercise, not a law enforcement operation).

And then he links the map and makes outlandish, specious arguments based on color coding and claims that he is clued in while everyone else is crazy for not seeing things his way.

Perfect Alex Jones-style bullshit.

The best part? When this shit comes and goes without incident (and I guarantee you it will), these assholes will never own up to having been completely nuts. They never do. They make crazy predictions about FEMA camps and martial law and Obama seizing and refusing to relinquish power, and when it never happens, they never admit that they were wrong.

Great White, stop watching whatever you're watching, and stop reading whatever you're reading, because it's making you a laughing stock. You're a numbskull and clearly don't have the wherewithal to differentiate between paranoid bullshit and reality. So, for the good of your sanity, confine yourself to mainstream network news programs for the foreseeable future.

She looks to be more than 15


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Delete this crap!

In comment 12275985 Cam in MO said:

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In comment 12275920 Great White Ghost said: Quote: The govts own exercise maps have given some people cause for concern.The fact they labeled the conservative states as hostile and the liberal states as friendly, and how friendly or hostile each state is based on how liberal or conservative they are IRL is certainly a coincidence, I'm sure. The military generally trains for the type of operations and in the type of environment they expect to operate in. The argument is made that were they training for an overseas deployment, they would use someplace Like Ft Irwin, where they simulate entire foreign cities.It's not likely training for overseas deployments would involve FEMA, state and local law enforcement.Say whatever you like but if you think this is an exercise simulating anything other than a deployment of these forces and these agencies on US soil you're jerking yourselves off.Pump away. Bahahaha! Just think about how stupid what you're suggesting is. Do you really think that a bunch of 18-25yr old soldiers and marines willingly "take over" red states, just because...well, becuase Obama! I mean, we all know that infantry in the armed forces have always been historically liberal hippie types... That's just so horribly stupid. Can you provide me with your credentials as far as knowing where oversea deployment training "should" be taking place? Obviously you know much more about how it should be done than command does. Fucking idiot.

That's my take on the whole idea that we need to be armed in the event that our kids (soldiers) are told to take over the United States and we have to battle them (our kids). huh?

In comment 12276526 manh george said:

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She's pretty cute...unlike this exercise that is just a rehearsal for our own subjugation!

In comment 12276167 Jon said:

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Maybe some place fancy...Olive Garden perhaps?

So now you're pretending he has to talk pretty to you first?

In comment 12276171 RC02XX said:

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for a grown adult, you argue like a 10 year old. If you don't get your way and are confronted with the truth, you lose your cool and throw a tantrum. When 99% of the people responding to your OP are laughing at you, you should look in the mirror to see the imbecile instead of calling everyone else that. But hey, continue with your logic. It's served you very well in all discussions you've been involved in.

Fuck you. Your a foul mouthed hypocrite and an asshole, and you start off with your insults in every thread.Every one. Your just a lying sack of shit.How about you fuck off instead, PLC pogue. I'm not going anywhere.