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George Zimmerman involved in Shooting

CMicks3110 : 5/11/2015 2:24 pm
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The shooting involved Zimmerman and another man and happened on Lake Mary Boulevard about 12:45 p.m., police said.

According to Bracknell, officers at the scene reported Zimmerman suffered a minor gunshot wound.

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RE: What is a PLC pogue, anyway??  
montanagiant : 5/12/2015 2:00 am : link
In comment 12282404 GameFaceRadio said:
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Sorry, not up on the military lingo?

You can go on line like GWG like this idiot did and get all the slang. It is a term meant to degrade support staff like cooks, paper pushers, etc.. Anyone who has actually served though understands they also serve an important function, its just the wanna-be's who think they don't.
I did, actually...  
GameFaceRadio : 5/12/2015 2:05 am : link
...and found fuckle. Which is why I asked.
It is a term meant to degrade support staff like cooks, paper pushers,  
GameFaceRadio : 5/12/2015 2:06 am : link
How the fuck are cooks not important?
Well, consider the source.  
Cam in MO : 5/12/2015 2:13 am : link
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Gay White Ghost  
Rob in CT/NYC : 5/12/2015 7:23 am : link
With the trifecta of disgusting traits:

1. Self-loathing gay basher
2. Conspiracy theorist
3. Racist

For his next trick, maybe he goes anti-Semitic?
RE: Gay White Ghost  
RC02XX : 5/12/2015 7:40 am : link
In comment 12282467 Rob in CT/NYC said:
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With the trifecta of disgusting traits:

1. Self-loathing gay basher
2. Conspiracy theorist
3. Racist

For his next trick, maybe he goes anti-Semitic?


I would also throw in an assault on the English language and proper logic to that list. But I'm sure Antisemitism will also be added to the list shortly.
?....  
Cam in MO : 5/12/2015 7:41 am : link


^ That's hot.  
Jon : 5/12/2015 7:43 am : link
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This biopic documentary explains the anger...  
RC02XX : 5/12/2015 8:09 am : link


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Deep in the Vietnamese jungles, he is known as the deadly White Ghost, a stealthy guerilla killer who continues to wage war against the Viet Cong, even though the war ended over a decade before. He is, in reality, Steve Shepard, a former U.S. Intelligence Officer with the Special Forces squad, a man listed MIA when his unit was slaughtered during an ambush. Since then, he has chosen to remain in the jungle. His only companion is his Vietnamese wife. This jungle actioner follows what happens when the U.S. military decides to try and bring him back to the U.S. Unfortunately, the former Green Beret officer chosen to lead the mission is Shepard's sworn enemy Walker, a man who seems more interested in bringing him back in a body bag. But will he succeed? This film went direct to video.

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RE: This biopic documentary explains the anger...  
Jon : 5/12/2015 8:13 am : link
In comment 12282496 RC02XX said:
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Deep in the Vietnamese jungles, he is known as the deadly White Ghost, a stealthy guerilla killer who continues to wage war against the Viet Cong, even though the war ended over a decade before. He is, in reality, Steve Shepard, a former U.S. Intelligence Officer with the Special Forces squad, a man listed MIA when his unit was slaughtered during an ambush. Since then, he has chosen to remain in the jungle. His only companion is his Vietnamese wife. This jungle actioner follows what happens when the U.S. military decides to try and bring him back to the U.S. Unfortunately, the former Green Beret officer chosen to lead the mission is Shepard's sworn enemy Walker, a man who seems more interested in bringing him back in a body bag. But will he succeed? This film went direct to video.

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You are GWG's Walker, Ronnie. But will you succeed?
Walker, Texas Ranger would totally succeed  
Greg from LI : 5/12/2015 8:38 am : link
Ronnie, I'm not so sure about
RE: Walker, Texas Ranger would totally succeed  
RC02XX : 5/12/2015 8:42 am : link
In comment 12282530 Greg from LI said:
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Ronnie, I'm not so sure about


F$@^ you, Greg!

Walker, Texas Ranger is currently busy defending Texas against the unconstitutional encroachment of the federal government, so it's up to me.
I'm not interested in talking about Zimmerman  
Bill2 : 5/12/2015 8:43 am : link
Some people and incidents are too far off central tendency to usefully use to discuss anything...imho.

But I am interested in asking...but wish the response kept private and not discussed.

GWG....for whatever reason and at this point top lost in time to be your fault or something anyone can overcome...can you take a day or so privately and ask yourself of this is worth it? It cannot be good for anyone to spend time in so much opposition. It's stress without a healthy payoff. It strikes me as unhealthy for you. I realize that opposition triggers stubborn opposition in all of us. But none of this or any one here is worth stress.

Secondly, there comes a time when the best inside any poster is lost and replaced by too much enjoyment at hammering the errant nail.

Don't misunderstand me....too many possible conversations wrecked by GWG and brownstones need to self stroke instead of discuss...but at some point none of us do well so far from our best. And we get into the practice of put down before give and take discussion that makes it hard for opposing and interesting view points to be submitted even if civilly done.

To slay the monster we become a new monster that wrecks what we originally objected to...decency and civic discourse.

No replies encouraged....just food for personal thought. I don't know what to do... but it sure seems like a lot of threads are going to be wrecked rehashing and re trying emotions long unanchored from original offense.

Just a thought
Bill2...  
RC02XX : 5/12/2015 8:53 am : link
Your post definitely makes me question my own part in these back-and-forths with GWG. For some strange reason, I just feel compelled to push his buttons, and that's most definitely not a recipe for good discussions in any thread.

So for that, I will refrain from interacting with GWG, no matter if I enjoy seeing him get all discombobulated.

Thank you, sir.
Back to the actual shooting  
Bake54 : 5/12/2015 8:57 am : link
Here's a photo of George's car. Bullet hole through the window and one through the lower part of the passenger door Notice how deeply tinted the windows are and the location of the bullet hole. Again this is the same vehicle Zimmerman has been driving since the Martin altercation. Plus Zimmerman had moved out of Florida and was visiting his mom when this happened.



I've attached the arrest record of this Apperson guy who reminds me of that Slingblade character.

Interesting how quickly Mark Nejame got on this case to represent Apperson. This is the same attorney that George Zimmerman first went to. Nejame declined but referred Zimmerman to Mark O'Meara whom he later hired. I guess Nejame and O'Meara are good friends.
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The defense of his conduct vis a vis Martin...  
Dunedin81 : 5/12/2015 9:03 am : link
never hinged on him being a model citizen, it was whether or not what he did was criminal in that place and time. And while certainly some trouble has probably found him as a result of what happened, and no doubt the experience of being one of the most hated men in America probably took a toll, one can acknowledge that he is very likely an asshole without having to admit a mistake in trying to interpret what happened with Trayvon Martin.
Ronnie  
Bill2 : 5/12/2015 9:07 am : link
Yeah its a weird phenomenon. I don't know the right way to handle these circles. Never did. It's like how do you discourage the discouraging without discouraging what we want to encourage?

Talk about bad English...re read that question three times and tell me we are not far off course.

Hopefully see you down the road my friend.
RE: RE: RE: RE: aaaaand.....again.....all this has fuck-all to do with the Martin  
Sonic Youth : 5/12/2015 9:09 am : link
In comment 12281629 therealmf said:
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In comment 12281460 Greg from LI said:


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shooting.


Greg seriously? Not understand why you are defending him, is he a friend or something? LOL

Do you not see that this guy historically inserts himself into situations that he shouldn't be in, over and over and over and over again? Doesn't raise a red flag to you? At all?



Inserts himself in situations.....where is that in the Florida criminal code? If you can find it for me, I'll give you a round of applause.



Check out Bernie Goetz. Similar situation IF GZ was trying to instigate a 'justified' shooting. Goetz was found innocent but he was tried for murder. If he had a past like GZ and it was introduced in court what would have happened?

Wasn't Bernie Goetz being mugged? That's not similar at all, unless you are one of those people that just sees a white man shooting a black teen and lumps it all together. Which makes you part of the problem. btw.
RE: Bill2...  
Cam in MO : 5/12/2015 9:15 am : link
In comment 12282552 RC02XX said:
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Your post definitely makes me question my own part in these back-and-forths with GWG. For some strange reason, I just feel compelled to push his buttons, and that's most definitely not a recipe for good discussions in any thread.

So for that, I will refrain from interacting with GWG, no matter if I enjoy seeing him get all discombobulated.

Thank you, sir.


Meh. Definitely intentional on my part. I'm happy enough with my own shortcomings. They taste like bacon.


This word combo is the kind of shit some of us live for on BBI.  
GiantFilthy : 5/12/2015 9:23 am : link
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Great White Ghost:
You wanna call me a bigot, go right ahead. Doesn't make me one. Fagots make me sick.


RE: RE: Bill2...  
RC02XX : 5/12/2015 9:24 am : link
In comment 12282585 Cam in MO said:
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Meh. Definitely intentional on my part. I'm happy enough with my own shortcomings. They taste like bacon.


Of course my actions were also intentional, but that doesn't mean that I'm not derailing threads with my snark directed towards him. I definitely recognize my shortcomings in that regard. And yes, anything that taste like bacon is a good thing.
Derailing threads is fantastically fun sometimes.  
Cam in MO : 5/12/2015 9:31 am : link
Nothing more powerful than controlling/influencing someone's emotions. Great ego boost in a weird way. Also tastes like bacon.


RE: Derailing threads is fantastically fun sometimes.  
RC02XX : 5/12/2015 9:33 am : link
In comment 12282615 Cam in MO said:
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Nothing more powerful than controlling/influencing someone's emotions. Great ego boost in a weird way. Also tastes like bacon.


Truth. But I will still refrain from here on out. But now I'm in the mood for some bacon. Thanks, ass!
I really don't see anyone else being the cause of that idiots angst  
montanagiant : 5/12/2015 9:35 am : link
Other then himself. You look at every discussion thread with different people. He comes on, makes a response and then flies off the handle when the problems or counter point is made regarding his response.

How is that anyone else's fault?
RE: I really don't see anyone else being the cause of that idiots angst  
Cam in MO : 5/12/2015 9:42 am : link
In comment 12282621 montanagiant said:
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Other then himself. You look at every discussion thread with different people. He comes on, makes a response and then flies off the handle when the problems or counter point is made regarding his response.

How is that anyone else's fault?


Pretty sure that was the point, no? A request for some self-reflection (probably not A-Rod style, but who knows? Might do him some good?).





montanagiant  
Bill2 : 5/12/2015 9:45 am : link
Its not. You know that and I know that. Blame was far from the point ( and you know better than to think that was my point....Did you give that response out of combative mode or thoughtful mode? That's what guys like this do to good posters....get them in bad cycles far from their best)

But its easy to do if you are willing to do so and easier if you have a screw loose and get some emotional payoff from it we do not understand.

You are working 20x harder than he is and getting nothing out of it.

He has no audience. He has no voice on here.

Meanwhile we let his presence wreck good threads.

I get the temptation....I fall into it all the time. I get that driving such posters away has a civic value to the site. However there are posters that are more than missing self awareness. At that point we have the sane engaging the insane (a response on a topic or at a time or in a situation or by a certain poster)....which by definition is insane. Why volunteer to be insane ( Repeating behavior proven useless and expecting a different response)?

imho. Again...I do the same things. I am not calling you out so lets lay down firearms on the subject

And the circus
Well when you put it that way Bill  
montanagiant : 5/12/2015 9:54 am : link
I see what you mean
imho  
Bill2 : 5/12/2015 9:54 am : link
I could be way off but often in life people who act in ways not conducive to less stress for themselves are afraid of something....usually being irrelevant.

I am not qualified to help the real reason for the posts...and for all I know am contributing to the self administration of toxic cortisol into a PTSD victim.

Repeated public counterproductive self abuse by a stranger is not the kind of video I want to see friends watching. Nor does the practice help us produce good videos on other subjects.
It would be nice  
MadPlaid : 5/12/2015 10:09 am : link
if everyone on BBI wrote as well as Bill2 does, imho. Then points being made would be clear and meanings obvious. Oh, well.

Just glad we have a Bill2 among us to lend a hand.
RE: It would be nice  
RC02XX : 5/12/2015 10:12 am : link
In comment 12282705 MadPlaid said:
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if everyone on BBI wrote as well as Bill2 does, imho. Then points being made would be clear and meanings obvious. Oh, well.

Just glad we have a Bill2 among us to lend a hand.


Hey! I think I write pretty clearly and make the meanings pretty obvious. As my students have repeated said about me in their end of course critique, I'm a master of breaking things down Barnie style to make it easily understood even for the slowest of people.
RE: RE: It would be nice  
Jon : 5/12/2015 10:20 am : link
In comment 12282714 RC02XX said:
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In comment 12282705 MadPlaid said:


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if everyone on BBI wrote as well as Bill2 does, imho. Then points being made would be clear and meanings obvious. Oh, well.

Just glad we have a Bill2 among us to lend a hand.



Hey! I think I write pretty clearly and make the meanings pretty obvious. As my students have repeated said about me in their end of course critique, I'm a master of breaking things down Barnie style to make it easily understood even for the slowest of people.


huh?
RE: RE: RE: It would be nice  
RC02XX : 5/12/2015 10:23 am : link
In comment 12282731 Jon said:
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huh?


Well...even I have my limits. I'm not a miracle worker.
RE: RE: RE: RE: It would be nice  
MadPlaid : 5/12/2015 10:24 am : link
In comment 12282739 RC02XX said:
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Well...even I have my limits. I'm not a miracle worker.


There, there.
RE: RE: It would be nice  
BMac : 5/12/2015 10:25 am : link
In comment 12282714 RC02XX said:
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In comment 12282705 MadPlaid said:


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if everyone on BBI wrote as well as Bill2 does, imho. Then points being made would be clear and meanings obvious. Oh, well.

Just glad we have a Bill2 among us to lend a hand.



Hey! I think I write pretty clearly and make the meanings pretty obvious. As my students have repeated said about me in their end of course critique, I'm a master of breaking things down Barnie style to make it easily understood even for the slowest of people.


Even for PLC Pogues?
RE: RE: RE: It would be nice  
RC02XX : 5/12/2015 10:31 am : link
In comment 12282752 BMac said:
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Even for PLC Pogues?


:(

I'm sorry that I don't want to post a picture of my diploma or my commissioning warrant from my alma matre. So yes, for a PLC pogue.
There's only one way to settle this  
Greg from LI : 5/12/2015 10:35 am : link
Ronnie, you need to scan and post your entire SRB. I want some answers! I want some proof!
RE: There's only one way to settle this  
MadPlaid : 5/12/2015 10:37 am : link
In comment 12282772 Greg from LI said:
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Ronnie, you need to scan and post your entire SRB. I want some answers! I want some proof!


You can't handle the Proof!
RE: There's only one way to settle this  
RC02XX : 5/12/2015 10:38 am : link
In comment 12282772 Greg from LI said:
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Ronnie, you need to scan and post your entire SRB. I want some answers! I want some proof!


Will you settle for a scanned copy of my DD-214? And can I black my SSN out or do you want that as well?
but if you redact your SSN, how can we check that you didn't forge it?  
Greg from LI : 5/12/2015 10:41 am : link
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RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: aaaaand.....again.....all this has fuck-all to do with the Martin  
therealmf : 5/12/2015 10:50 am : link
In comment 12282573 Sonic Youth said:
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In comment 12281577 Greg from LI said:


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shooting.


Greg seriously? Not understand why you are defending him, is he a friend or something? LOL

Do you not see that this guy historically inserts himself into situations that he shouldn't be in, over and over and over and over again? Doesn't raise a red flag to you? At all?



Inserts himself in situations.....where is that in the Florida criminal code? If you can find it for me, I'll give you a round of applause.



Check out Bernie Goetz. Similar situation IF GZ was trying to instigate a 'justified' shooting. Goetz was found innocent but he was tried for murder. If he had a past like GZ and it was introduced in court what would have happened?


Wasn't Bernie Goetz being mugged? That's not similar at all, unless you are one of those people that just sees a white man shooting a black teen and lumps it all together. Which makes you part of the problem. btw.


Bernie Goetz repeatedly rode the subway looking for an opportunity to 'defend himself'. Meaning that in a way he caused/looked for the confrontation that led to the shooting. In that way I thought it was on point. Also I think you completely missed the tone. The previous poster asked how it would be illegal to shoot someone in self defense. Goetz was on point in that regard. He was charged and tried.

If I was not clear, my fault. But by no means was I using Goetz to justify Zimmermin and I'm a bit resentful that you casually lumped me into that group and stopped just short of calling me a racist, btw
RE: RE: RE: RE: It would be nice  
BMac : 5/12/2015 10:52 am : link
In comment 12282766 RC02XX said:
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Even for PLC Pogues?



:(

I'm sorry that I don't want to post a picture of my diploma or my commissioning warrant from my alma matre. So yes, for a PLC pogue.


Frankly, I cannot imagine anyone, even GWG, making such an outlandish request and expecting you to publish personal info here. It's so very similar to all the hoo-ha by the Birthers that I cannot view it as coincidental.

I have my persona-non-grata preferences here, just like everyone else does. I generally, although not nearly enough, manage to just avoid any interaction with those posters. Maybe if GWG starts presenting less inflammatory subjects and somehow manages to play well with others it would make it worthwhile to engage with him.

Unfortunately, that's fairly obviously not why he posts here. When the discussion devolves into demanding tangible "proof" of someone's assertions, especially in your case where there already exists substantial corroborating evidence, I think it's the better part to just say Sayonara, sucker and let him howl at the moon all by his lonesome.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: It would be nice  
RC02XX : 5/12/2015 11:45 am : link
In comment 12282819 BMac said:
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Frankly, I cannot imagine anyone, even GWG, making such an outlandish request and expecting you to publish personal info here. It's so very similar to all the hoo-ha by the Birthers that I cannot view it as coincidental.

I have my persona-non-grata preferences here, just like everyone else does. I generally, although not nearly enough, manage to just avoid any interaction with those posters. Maybe if GWG starts presenting less inflammatory subjects and somehow manages to play well with others it would make it worthwhile to engage with him.

Unfortunately, that's fairly obviously not why he posts here. When the discussion devolves into demanding tangible "proof" of someone's assertions, especially in your case where there already exists substantial corroborating evidence, I think it's the better part to just say Sayonara, sucker and let him howl at the moon all by his lonesome.


Nicely stated. And that's why I'm taking the advice found in Bill2's post.
Bill2 is always wise  
Johnny5 : 5/12/2015 12:23 pm : link
Hi Bill!

We all have posters on here that get under our skin, and we all post things we shouldn't or wish we could take back.

Except for me. lol

I can't believe this thread is still going.
I think Bill makes some excellent points  
Rob in CT/NYC : 5/12/2015 1:22 pm : link
as is usually the case.

Here is my issue - GWG posted that awful, homophobic tirade that I reposted above. He was banned, and Eric, as is his right, let him back.

That means that it is now incumbent upon the rest of us to forget that he is a hate-filled piece of shit. Does GWG do ANYTHING to prove that he is any different than what he displayed in that post? Nope, same behavior, only slightly more circumspect, and he revels in it.

Sometimes a piece of shit needs to be reminded what decent people think of him.

Bake, your posts  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 5/12/2015 1:59 pm : link
on Matthew Apperson haven't gone unnoticed. This thread is all about GWG's stupid ass now but this Apperson character definitely seems like a shit-stirrer.
Wow.  
x meadowlander : 5/12/2015 2:09 pm : link
I never saw that awful GWG post.

He has no place on this board.

Ban.
When did Great White Ghost say that?  
Mike in Long Beach : 5/12/2015 3:16 pm : link
wow
Great White Ghost  
eli10 : 5/12/2015 5:40 pm : link
The name fits. A racist you can't see.
RE: Great White Ghost  
BMac : 5/12/2015 6:49 pm : link
In comment 12283714 eli10 said:
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The name fits. A racist you can't see.


He's all too visible, and for those who haven't seen it, shame on you.
Apperson charged  
njm : 5/19/2015 4:37 pm : link
Police have charged Apperson with aggravated assault among other things over the incident, and he's out on $35,000 bail. And if the police report is to be believed he has some mental issues.
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