which UDFA has the best shot at cracking the roster

But after doing a little reading on some of these guys and based on what you hear from coaches and mini-camp reports, sounds like Donnelly, Farrand and LaCosse have the best chances.

but if this team is serious Robinson needs to be replaced.

eg Herz or McClain, as I doubt they keep more than six LBs in total.

of the coaches.

I hope he makes it. If he's a true 2-way TE, it would be nice to have a guy on the field who doesn't broadcast to opposing defenses whether we're running or passing.

Cole Farrand I'm also hoping can sneak in there somehow.

Also that other bigass tackle who is taller than Flowers. If they can coach him up and he can produce, it'll be nice to have some big boys who can play on the O-line depth chart.

Seawright

Earlier this year, there were some news articles about the possibility. Was anything decided?

Sorry if this is off thread discussion, but it seems this would be helpful. The UDFA are an interesting group & the lower draft picks are clearly developmental types.

Victor Cruz, Henry Hynoski, Kerry Wynn...

In comment 12281377 Mr. Nickels said:

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laCosse and Curie IMO

agree on those three being most likely IMO.

In comment 12281497 Eric from BBI said:

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Victor Cruz, Henry Hynoski, Kerry Wynn...

James Butler, Chase Blackburn, Derrick Ward...

Farrand because, even with FA signings, Kennard/McClain/Beason have been injury prone and Herzlich is Herzlich

Lacosse I give the edge over Tye because the Giants signed him as a UDFA outright rather than giving him a tryout invite and signing him from there. Also is a bit taller which Tom Coughlin seems to prefer in his TE

but pads of course will tell us more.

In comment 12281519 Klaatu said:

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In comment 12281497 Eric from BBI said: Quote: Victor Cruz, Henry Hynoski, Kerry Wynn... James Butler, Chase Blackburn, Derrick Ward...

Oh, and Rich Seubert, too.

Goodbye JPP of TEs.

A late, low-risk trip through the waiver wire, followed by a year on the practice squad to add muscle and learn the pro game. The big advantage, from the team's point of view, is that you don't waste a year of rookie-contract salary control on a redshirt season.

The downside, of course, it the risk of a waiver claim. But for the Matt LaCosses, Will Tyes and Cole Ferrands of the world, that's not a huge gamble. Once they clear waivers and sign on to the PS, the risk of losing them drops considerably. That's because practice squad members can't be "claimed"; they are free agents, and can negotiate the best deal available. Other teams can offer them contracts, but the Giants can still counter.

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all teams have these guys that hope they can sneak onto their practice squads. It's not like the rest of the NFL is waiting to see who the Giants build their practice squad with

...since there seems to be a surge of support for him here.

I'm surprised that Currie is seen as having a good chance at the 53-man. He's up against five recent draft picks - Taylor, Berhe, Jackson, Collins and Thompson - for probably four spots. I guess Taylor can be counted on to get dinged in camp - if not sooner.

But see some good playing time

...why would he see the field as a rookie in the NFL?

In comment 12281646 Big Blue Blogger said:

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...since there seems to be a surge of support for him here. I'm surprised that Currie is seen as having a good chance at the 53-man. He's up against five recent draft picks - Taylor, Berhe, Jackson, Collins and Thompson - for probably four spots. I guess Taylor can be counted on to get dinged in camp - if not sooner.

5 draft picks, but almost 0 experience between them. I'm not sure any of them except Collins is a lock for the team.

In comment 12281729 giants#1 said:

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In comment 12281646 Big Blue Blogger said: Quote: ...since there seems to be a surge of support for him here. I'm surprised that Currie is seen as having a good chance at the 53-man. He's up against five recent draft picks - Taylor, Berhe, Jackson, Collins and Thompson - for probably four spots. I guess Taylor can be counted on to get dinged in camp - if not sooner. 5 draft picks, but almost 0 experience between them. I'm not sure any of them except Collins is a lock for the team.

So Flowers, & Odi have no experience in a major conference & are in jeopardy of being cut. We need a knucklehead filter on this site

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...why would he see the field as a rookie in the NFL?

That one seems easy to me. Because at FSU, Tye had Nick O'Leary, who was in his same class, and an All-American and John Mackey Award winner, ahead of him:

"After considering entering the 2014 NFL Draft, O'Leary returned to Florida State for his senior season. During his senior season he set Florida State's record for career receptions for a tight end. He again was a finalst for the John Mackey Award, this time winning it. He was also named a consensus All-American."

Be the 1st to filter myself for miss reading.

If so I'd say he has the best shot, and Lacosse and Hunt also have decent shots.

On the other hand, he's not much of a pro prospect, and lasted until the 194th pick. To think Tye will be a significant contributor this year, you have to believe that he's much more NFL-ready than the guy who blocked his path so completely that Tye barely sniffed the field before transferring. Did he even make it to second string?

Don't get me wrong. I'm rooting for the kid just as I root for every player in blue - especially the underdogs. But I doubt even the Giants expect much from him in 2015.

It's weird: logically, you'd think he would be a street free agent, but he's not. I think the CBA is crafted to prevent teams from evading the rookie cap by giving big contracts to imports.

it's hard to evaluate the history when Tye was only as FSU for two years. Yes, there were others ahead of him as well as O'Leary, but my understanding is that they were upperclassmen. You can't really tell what the coaching staff was thinking at the time, or how it would have played out had Tye stayed there. For kids this age, that's history now.

If I had to pick one, it would be Tye. I like the way he moves to get open.

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its going to be one of the TE and after injury shake out of camp that Justin Currie survives he reminds me of Craig dahl a little bit.

seem to share Eric's feeling that this could be a very strong UDFA class. Very encouraging.

In comment 12281721 Big Blue Blogger said:

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...why would he see the field as a rookie in the NFL?

I don't know BBB, he makes a good story and I like his athleticism

you do have cunningham who everyone seems to forget. Fells was very good last year. It comes down to Robinson, fells and cunningham

In comment 12281403 Eric from BBI said:

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looks like a REALLY strong UDFA class.

from your lips to God's ears! I really hope we do get a few gems. They are out there every year. Not necessarily strong front line guys but strong role players. I mean, if we get TE Lacross to become a player down the road well WOOT WOOT!

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you do have cunningham who everyone seems to forget. Fells was very good last year. It comes down to Robinson, fells and cunningham

Not trying to be a smartass, but maybe you should qualify "very good" so far as Fells is concerned?

We won't have a clue about the UDFA class until well into August - maybe later. On paper, this class isn't especially strong, but they do seem to hit some soft spots on the roster.

LaCosse makes the team

Hunt and Currie will at the least, make the practice squad, maybe the team

and the guy is a beast, hope he can bring his game up to the NFL level

In comment 12282556 mavric said:

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LaCosse makes the team Hunt and Currie will at the least, make the practice squad, maybe the team

Unless the injury bug strikes, I'd be floored if Justin Currie made the team. We typically go with 4 safeties...but have gone as many as 5 and as low as 3.

Collins, Berhe, Thompson are LOCKS barring injury. Taylor most likely is a lock barring injury, but as we know with him that's a big concern. Bennett Jackson has a great chance to stick at safety as well. Problem with Currie is he is strictly an in the box strong safety, which puts him behind Collins and Berhe, and maybe Taylor. He doesn't have the versatility that Thompson, Jackson, or even Josh Gordy has.

Practice squad at best unless injuries hit.

Yesterday or so...

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Yesterday or so...

Don't believe so. We cut Ogbonnaya and Terrell Manning. We just signed Gordy about a month ago...doubt we would have cut him already.

In comment 12282880 BlueLou said:

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Yesterday or so...

I realize now you're thinking of Thomas Gordon, who was also cut. He was a UDFA safety out of Michigan who spent a lot of last season on the practice squard. I was talking Josh Gordy, the FA we signed about a month back. Mainly a corner but can play safety as well.

...with local roots. They will be easy to root for. Here are some examples, with their nfldraftscout rankings:

Cole Farrand, Sparta NJ, #446
Sean Donnelly, Pelham NY, #452
Will Tye, Middletown CT, #559
Carlif Taylor, New York NY, No Rank

The rankings don't mean much once you get past the third round or so, but they do give some indication of the underdog status these guys bring to OTAs. I think it's more significant that, according to Spotrac, none of them got any up-front money. That means there wasn't much competition for their services.

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and the guy is a beast, hope he can bring his game up to the NFL level

would have used a draft pick on him. (From the "Who I Would Have Picked" thread).

WHO I WOULD HAVE PICKED

Cole Farrand – LB/Maryland – 6’2/231

#6 LB/#58 overall

Here is proof that I make picks in real time, as Farrand ended up going undrafted and coincidentally picked up by NYG in the free agency period. In all honesty, I would be shocked if he didn’t make this team. He is exactly what this depth chart needs and I think he’ll be a starter down the road.

Farrand is a fiery player that is constantly playing through the whistle and trying to finish off each play with a sense of violence and power. He can read the action before and right after the snap, putting himself in position to make an impact. He is savvy when working his way through traffic towards the ball carrier. Rarely does he get locked on to and his late, explosive gear makes him a tough catch for linemen. Farrand has the sideline to sideline range and he is a guy that makes tackles on the full speed move with finishing power. I wasn’t expecting big time workout numbers but he finished with times that rival some of the best athletes at the position in the entire draft. I think this kid has it all.

Ben Edwards - Don't sleep on this guy. A bigger, faster, stronger version of Wes Welker.

In comment 12281434 Mr. Nickels said:

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but if this team is serious Robinson needs to be replaced.

Robinson is reminding me of Sinorice Moss and others like him who stuck around holding a roster spot that could have been used by someone who can actually contribute..

In comment 12284624 Canam21 said:

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Ben Edwards - Don't sleep on this guy. A bigger, faster, stronger version of Wes Welker.

I watched Edwards' highlights and he does look like Welker 2.0 in them, but at this point he's coming off a torn ACL and I wonder about the level of competition he was playing. Some of the highlights were against New Hampshire, U of Albany, etc. But would be great to see him succeed.

Nobody wants to hear that, but he's carving out a role for himself as a blocker and he certainly has the size to be that.

That doesn't mean he can't be replaced or that the selection wasn't a disappointment, but the idea that he does nothing is inaccurate.