NFT: Mets Minors 5/15/2015

might not hit the ball hard or far, butting he is more than I was led to believe he would be offensively. Will he hit as he moves up? I certainly can't say, but if he can hit .275, we are in for a treat defensively.

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In comment 12287958 speedywheels said:

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Hasn't looked very good but yeah I suspect we see him in 2 weeks or so. I'm not expecting much. Velocity has fluctuated 90-95 and control hasn't been very good but who knows?

In comment 12287962 DanMetroMan said:

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In comment 12287958 speedywheels said: Quote: . Hasn't looked very good but yeah I suspect we see him in 2 weeks or so. I'm not expecting much. Velocity has fluctuated 90-95 and control hasn't been very good but who knows?

Been mostly low 90's, though has touched mid occasionally. Hate to say it, but a waste of a couple million dollars for less than a full season of an ehhh reliever at this point.

his velocity was not great at the beginning of 14' either if I recall. I wonder if the drop is related to the neck as much as it is the arm injury. I would hope that both he and black can return to form, but I don't think we can count on it, and with Mejia out until July, and not eligible for the post-season anyway. We desperately need a strong right handed set up man. I think the FO will wait till June-July to see how Parnell/Black/Goeddel/Robles hold up. Robles and Goeddel have loooked decent in small samples, but I would expect a trade at some point. We also need bench help. I have to hope that someone like niese or gee + some mid-level prospect can help us acquire a good RH reliever and a bench piece. SF has a few options that fit both of those categories. Maybe Niese+ for Romo and Aoki?

the fact that he came out and said that he won't request a trade, in my view, is a signal that the rockies intend to try to trade him, and that Tulo is trying to give the Rox as much leverage as possible - as he has a strong relationship with the owner. I wouldn't give up syndergaard or matz for him. But I might give up wheeler, so maybe a trade of plawecki, reynolds/flores and a PTBNL (Wheeler) could get it done. I like Wheeler, but he is way too much like a.j. burnett for my liking, and when he gets healthy, he'll probably always be a good, not great pitcher, he just lacks the command and probably will always lack the command to be anything more than a #3.

was that part of the suspension deal?

the suspension also stipulates that mejia will not be eligible for post-season play.

In comment 12288089 CMicks3110 said:

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the fact that he came out and said that he won't request a trade, in my view, is a signal that the rockies intend to try to trade him, and that Tulo is trying to give the Rox as much leverage as possible - as he has a strong relationship with the owner. I wouldn't give up syndergaard or matz for him. But I might give up wheeler, so maybe a trade of plawecki, reynolds/flores and a PTBNL (Wheeler) could get it done. I like Wheeler, but he is way too much like a.j. burnett for my liking, and when he gets healthy, he'll probably always be a good, not great pitcher, he just lacks the command and probably will always lack the command to be anything more than a #3.

Sandy has stated he is not interested. And rightly so.

I surely don't. He has no reason to say he's not interested. Hurt hurts any leverage he may have.

In comment 12288203 CMicks3110 said:

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I surely don't. He has no reason to say he's not interested. Hurt hurts any leverage he may have.

Well, here's hoping he's telling the truth.

Tulo. I'd love to add Chapman (fully knowing the price will be high). Chapman+ Familia would be awesome.

for a long time on this board. What do you think it would cost? He has 2 years to FA, Cinci is going nowhere. Can't imagine it would be over the top. What did Baltimore give Boston for Miller last year? Whatever that was, I think we'd have to give one more B to B+ level prospect for Chapman.

Also, DMM, given what Wilmer is, a player playing SS, who is more of a 3B, and given that he is on pace to hit around 25 HRs, shouldn't he have decent trade value? How many 3B hit 25 HRs and are 5-6 years away from Free Agency? Plus any team that moves him to 3B, will likely allow him to bulk up. He has the frame to add a lot of weight.

In comment 12288249 CMicks3110 said:

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for a long time on this board. What do you think it would cost? He has 2 years to FA, Cinci is going nowhere. Can't imagine it would be over the top. What did Baltimore give Boston for Miller last year? Whatever that was, I think we'd have to give one more B to B+ level prospect for Chapman. Also, DMM, given what Wilmer is, a player playing SS, who is more of a 3B, and given that he is on pace to hit around 25 HRs, shouldn't he have decent trade value? How many 3B hit 25 HRs and are 5-6 years away from Free Agency? Plus any team that moves him to 3B, will likely allow him to bulk up. He has the frame to add a lot of weight.

I don't think teams are yet sold on Wilmer Flores even offensively. The 5 homers are nice but he's been a league averageish offensive player and while he has a good arm it's erratic. I don't think he'd have a ton of trade value as of today. if he heats up that's a different story. On pace for only 23 walks in 139 games, only 19 doubles.

I'll admit, I saw him as nothing more than an Ollie Perez. But would love to see him added to the pen now.

We are a fifth into the season, those at that pace are a hot or cold streak from changing dramatically. Flores will have at least 30 doubles by year end, as an example of.

In comment 12288315 Shecky said:

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I'll admit, I saw him as nothing more than an Ollie Perez. But would love to see him added to the pen now. We are a fifth into the season, those at that pace are a hot or cold streak from changing dramatically. Flores will have at least 30 doubles by year end, as an example of.

Just to be clear I wasn't knocking Flores, just just track record/lack thereof.

from Dave Camerona regarding Tulo's trade value. Pasted below is the Mets exerpt. The price is likely higher than we'd want to pay.

"New York Mets

As I said on Tuesday, the Mets are the best fit. They have the pitching depth that the Rockies want and the motivation to make a deal that makes them a legitimate Wild Card contender, rather than just hoping their hot start doesn’t get wiped out too quickly. If the Mets packaged Noah Syndergaard (#19), Amed Rosario (#60), and Steven Matz (#65) together, they’d very likely have their shortstop of the present and the future. Maybe the Rockies even settle for Thor and one of those two, plus some additional stuff. Or maybe they even package up enough of their lower-tier talents with Matz and Rosario to keep Syndergaard out of the deal, arguing that his early 2015 performance puts him in that top tier of guys that aren’t worth giving up. There are plenty of options here, and the Mets have enough depth of young talent to get Tulowitzki if they want him.

Right now, everyone is playing coy and downplaying their interest, but at some point in the next month or so, the best shortstop in baseball is going to become available. These are the kinds of offers I’d expect Colorado to receive when they finally do put him on the market."
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career 1.93 FIP wowzas

Tulo is a great player, no doubt, but he's owed a ton of money, often injured and on the wrong side of 30.

Thor, Matz and Rosario for Tulo is insanity unless the Rockies were eating MASSIVE money. Makes no sense #mets

he does back down from the initial offer. I think something like Matz + Rosario + (one of) Flores/Reynolds would be the most I'd be willing to do unless the Rockies ate major money.

In comment 12288422 Metnut said:

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he does back down from the initial offer. I think something like Matz + Rosario + (one of) Flores/Reynolds would be the most I'd be willing to do unless the Rockies ate major money.

I'd do Matz, Rosario and Flores for Tulo.

rather trade for Bogaerts at this point than Tulo.

Or even Castro than Tulo.


you have a young core of starting pitchers, and an ancient OF (except Lagares) and aging "star" with Wright.

Why add a broken down Tulo to that for some of your prime youth?

No way, and I think Sandy is smarter than that too.

Build for the long term.

guy I would LOVE (even at a big price) would be Gomez. I wonder what Gomez + K-Rod would cost?

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In comment 12288382 Gary from The East End said:

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Tulo is a great player, no doubt, but he's owed a ton of money, often injured and on the wrong side of 30.

I think there's a lot of doubt. Coors Field inflates his numbers significantly.

In comment 12288434 DanMetroMan said:

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Dilson Herrera tore a fingernail, nicked by a hit ball pregame. Tejada back in there at 2B #Mets

Seriously? How many more freak injuries can this team have? Yikes...

In comment 12288457 speedywheels said:

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In comment 12288434 DanMetroMan said: Quote: Dilson Herrera tore a fingernail, nicked by a hit ball pregame. Tejada back in there at 2B #Mets Seriously? How many more freak injuries can this team have? Yikes...

Also, Torres was hit by a meteorite. Both of them.

In comment 12288431 DanMetroMan said:

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guy I would LOVE (even at a big price) would be Gomez. I wonder what Gomez + K-Rod would cost?

Gomez would be the perfect player for this team to take the next step. Guessing it would cost Matz or Thor unfortunately.

or matz I'd want bogaerts or mookie betts or someone of that ilk.

I'd have either of them lead off for the Mets.

Mets offense is sadly station to station lacking both power and speed. They really could use an athletic upgrade

so Gomez is a non-starter. Maybe you can get him for a package of slightly lesser top 100 types like Herrera, Montero, Nimmo? Or something like that. I think I'd do that but that's probably not enough. And you have to dump one of the veterans somewhere.

In comment 12288501 DanMetroMan said:

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Mets offense is sadly station to station lacking both power and speed. They really could use an athletic upgrade

Completely agree. Even if it's a 4th OF'er, they need a spark plug. As much as we used to shit on EYJ (rightfully so) it was undeniable how directly he could get the offense going without ever even seeming to get a hit.

I don't even know how Duda misplayed that throw.

man, this team just sucks major balls right now.

effort by the Mets so far. Embarrassing in fact

Nobody is hitting, and now two games in a row where starting pitching is awful...

out there holy fuck

things are turning very very south, very very quickly.

Flores shitty play AGAIN. Pitchers can't trust the defense.

the way this offense is playing. heck it was out of reach down 3 - 0.

down 5 - 0 the Brewers can rest their starters.

Back to being a joke as usual.

where other teams seem to have no problem hitting HRs at Citi

I was going to go to a game this weekend but with what they are putting on display has changed my mind.
The meager display of offense and garbage defense cant offset the pitching gems we had been getting.

the ball doesn't move how he needs it to. I don't blame Flores for the throw tonight, that one is on Duda I think. The problem is with having shitty defense everywhere you look if you're a team built on pitching. Duda, Flores, Murphy, Granderson, Cuddyer are inarguably below average defensive players. With less offense in the game defense is not underrated at all, it's more important than ever. As good as Lagares is he can't hide everyone.

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Back to being a joke as usual.

Look at the lineup tonight. Its basically the same team

broken finger

In comment 12288554 arcarsenal said:

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Back to being a joke as usual.

Way to do 180 in less than 2 months.

In comment 12288585 DanMetroMan said:

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broken finger

LOL. Of COURSE he breaks his finger.

One injury after another....