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NFT: Mets Minors 5/15/2015

DanMetroMan : 5/15/2015 9:50 am
AAA-
Reynolds 1-5
Ceciliani 1-4, K
Campbell 1-4, 2b, K
Tovar 1-4
Taijeron 0-4 2 k's
Bradford 1 inning 1 hit 0 runs 0 walks 1 k


AA
King 1-5
Nimmo 1-5
Rivera 1-5, K
Boyd 2-5, 2b, K
Cecchini 1-5 (error #6)
Cessa 6.1 innings 4 hits 4 runs 3 earned 4 walks 4 k's

A+

Stuart 0-5, 2 k's
McNeil 3-5
Conforto 1-4, 2b
Smith 0-4
Rosario 1-4, K
Urena 1-4
Parnell 1 inning 2 hits 1 run 0 walks 1 k
L. Taylor 5.2 innings 6 hits 3 runs 3 walks 5 k's
Secrest 1.2 perfect 2 k's (Mets like him)


A
Wieck 6 innings 5 hits 4 runs 3 walks 11 k's
Gulliorme 2-3, BB
Garcia 0-4, K
Becerra 0-3
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RE: RE: LOLMets..  
arcarsenal : 5/15/2015 8:57 pm : link
In comment 12288586 Giants2012 said:
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In comment 12288554 arcarsenal said:


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Back to being a joke as usual.



Way to do 180 in less than 2 months.


Way to miss the sarcasm.

Any news from the Flying Puck?
And TC remains a moron as usual  
speedywheels : 5/15/2015 8:58 pm : link
A blowout game, and he has Alex Torres pitch not one but TWO innings...
How'd a torn fingernail turn into a broken finger?  
arcarsenal : 5/15/2015 8:59 pm : link
Oy vey.

Hasn't Reynolds been struggling recently in LV? I'd say call him up to take Herrera's spot.

I really can't stomach more Ruben Tejada.
RE: RE: RE: LOLMets..  
Giants2012 : 5/15/2015 9:05 pm : link
In comment 12288591 arcarsenal said:
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In comment 12288586 Giants2012 said:


Quote:


In comment 12288554 arcarsenal said:


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Back to being a joke as usual.



Way to do 180 in less than 2 months.



Way to miss the sarcasm.

Any news from the Flying Puck?


Yeah, they claim you're a hypocrite in addition to being a whiny Crosby lol

No worries, you're a natural like Flores
Maverick???  
Giants2012 : 5/15/2015 9:09 pm : link
Where is the talkative Sandy Alderson?????? 90 win frame of mind, playoffs, etc. etc. during the offseason and spring training.

Maybe the "Maverick" could open his mouth now, demonstrate some leadership and come out from hiding.



So TC pitches both Torres'  
speedywheels : 5/15/2015 9:15 pm : link
Will be complete the trifecta of stupid and pitch Familia, too?
Bring up Reynolds  
Rflairr : 5/15/2015 9:18 pm : link
. Of course they'll probably just bring up Campbell.
campbell  
pjcas18 : 5/15/2015 9:20 pm : link
is coming up
Shut down by Kyle Lohse  
Rflairr : 5/15/2015 9:20 pm : link
and his 7 ERA. unreal. 8ip and 8ks.
Cuddy has  
Rflairr : 5/15/2015 9:31 pm : link
been a great hitter his whole career. Comes here and hes swinging at pitches that are thrown off the plate in the other batters box.
RE: Cuddy has  
pjcas18 : 5/15/2015 9:34 pm : link
In comment 12288627 Rflairr said:
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been a great hitter his whole career. Comes here and hes swinging at pitches that are thrown off the plate in the other batters box.


so was Jason Bay, it's weird, they (Cuddyer, Bay, and others) cannot be counted on to be "the guy". Mets need a "the guy" on offense. Maybe it's Wright, but he's so fragile at this point I doubt it.

Beltran and Delgado - that's the kind of bold move Sandy needs to make only it would need to be via trade. those were two FA signings that mostly worked out.
The Mets  
spike : 5/15/2015 9:34 pm : link
are skyrocketing back to 500 ball.

Unbelievable.
I'd love to find  
pjcas18 : 5/15/2015 9:40 pm : link
a way to get Altuve from Houston.

he's good.
Tulowitzki would be exactly the same thing.  
arcarsenal : 5/15/2015 9:41 pm : link
I guarantee that guy would come here and a) not be able to stay healthy and b) turn into an average at best hitter that we owe big money to. I would be a disaster.

I know that conversation is picking back up because the Rockies have been so bad and the Mets are bottoming out here and it just seems like it makes sense but I think it would be a huge mistake. Can anyone see that working out for us? You just know it would turn bad.

Gomez would be a much more attractive guy to go after because he's so good defensively that even if his power dipped a little, he'd still have value (and he can steal bases)

Hard to believe he's already 29 but that's definitely a guy I'd go after.

Problem is.. then what the hell do you do with Granderson or Cuddyer? No one is going to take Granderson off our hands.
forget gomez  
pjcas18 : 5/15/2015 9:50 pm : link
forget tulo, I wouldn't get either.

if you're giving up Thor or Matz (plus Flores or Murphy) you get someone young and good.


I'd offer Thor, Ynoa, Flores, and d'Arnaud to the Red Sox for Bogaerts, swihart and Rusney Castillo.

Dumping Cuddyer might be doable since it's only 1 more year  
Eric on Li : 5/15/2015 9:50 pm : link
but Granderson may be impossible unless it's taking on a worse contract. This every day lineup is getting close to unwatchable but I agree that Tulo is not the answer right now.
You don't compound a mistake  
Shecky : 5/15/2015 10:04 pm : link
If cuddly and Grandy aren't giving you enough production - the biggest mistake the front office can make again would be inaction because of their contracts. Making baseball decisions purely based on contracts is foolish. You can work around and move around money. You cannot work around a lack of talent.
I know the guy is terrible defensively..  
arcarsenal : 5/15/2015 10:06 pm : link
But Nelson Cruz has been ridiculous this year and he was last year too. I never understood why people were so against signing him. The guy is hitting .361 and has 15 HR's already.. and SAFECO is NOT a small park.
RE: forget gomez  
Giants2012 : 5/15/2015 10:07 pm : link
In comment 12288663 pjcas18 said:
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forget tulo, I wouldn't get either.

if you're giving up Thor or Matz (plus Flores or Murphy) you get someone young and good.


I'd offer Thor, Ynoa, Flores, and d'Arnaud to the Red Sox for Bogaerts, swihart and Rusney Castillo.


The Sox really like their kids. Castillo was given over $70 million and we know he was sent to the minors b/c they had no spot for him.

Bogaerts is likely staying until Moncada arrvies and the love Betts.

A one for one maybe but doubt they're moving several pieces foe several pieces. I thought GBSP Niese was perfect yet an 88 MPH #1 is pretty worthless.

I think we're screwed for this year.
RE: I know the guy is terrible defensively..  
feelflows : 5/15/2015 10:16 pm : link
In comment 12288679 arcarsenal said:
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But Nelson Cruz has been ridiculous this year and he was last year too. I never understood why people were so against signing him. The guy is hitting .361 and has 15 HR's already.. and SAFECO is NOT a small park.


No shit. And it was very adamant, like it was a horrible idea.
Think out of the box  
Giants2012 : 5/15/2015 10:26 pm : link
Cuddyer has played 1st base in the past

Maybe an American League team gets an injury or really needs a DH and Duda brings back a ransom later this season.

Few choices so maybe a few out of the box ideas is worth discussing.
Matz pitching now  
Tanker20 : 5/15/2015 10:29 pm : link
looking good. 3 k's through 2 but did let up one hit which was a solo homerun (first homer he's given up this year)
The wheels have come off  
Giants4246 : 5/15/2015 10:33 pm : link
This team is fucked
Trade Duda?  
steve in ky : 5/15/2015 10:34 pm : link
They are a young team still filling in the pieces. They are not going to trade their young 1st baseman and create yet another.
is there anyone in our lineup  
Tanker20 : 5/15/2015 10:35 pm : link
not in a huge cold streak right now?

And for that matter is there anyone having even an average season with the bat?

RE: is there anyone in our lineup  
Giants4246 : 5/15/2015 10:36 pm : link
In comment 12288712 Tanker20 said:
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not in a huge cold streak right now?

And for that matter is there anyone having even an average season with the bat?


No and no.
At some point  
steve in ky : 5/15/2015 10:38 pm : link
They will have DW and TDA back, Cuddyer will have broken out of his slump and things won't look near as bleak as they do today.

Baseball season is a marathon not a sprint and there are ups and downs. Just like they weren't going to stay at the same pace when they stared out with the best record in the game they won't remain losing like they are now.

RE: Trade Duda?  
Giants2012 : 5/15/2015 10:50 pm : link
In comment 12288711 steve in ky said:
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They are a young team still filling in the pieces. They are not going to trade their young 1st baseman and create yet another.


Well, of Cuddyer is the stop gap in LF maybe he can be the stop gap at 1st. Could Duda and maybe a pitcher return a solid SS and future 1st base prospect?

Gotta think a little different than the current b/c nothing is happening nor will it happen in 2016 with these two corner outfielders
They aren't trading Duda any time soon  
steve in ky : 5/15/2015 10:53 pm : link
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Duda isn't that young  
moespree : 5/15/2015 11:01 pm : link
He'll be 30 next season.

I wouldn't trade him, but I wouldn't make him some untouchable piece of the team either.
Matz  
Tanker20 : 5/15/2015 11:04 pm : link
through 4 innings now with 6k's. Still just that one hit. He's been sitting around 93-94mph, filthy curve and a changeup he's been able to locate.

I know there's not much room on our ML rotation, but it really seems like we're just wasting innings from him in AAA
RE: Duda isn't that young  
Giants2012 : 5/15/2015 11:06 pm : link
In comment 12288729 moespree said:
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He'll be 30 next season.

I wouldn't trade him, but I wouldn't make him some untouchable piece of the team either.


+1

The problem with the Mets and many of their fan is they only want to trade off what others don't want and always over hype what they want to trade. If Duda brought back a kid who can start at SS next year and a LF or 1st baseman it's not crazy. Hoping Niese and spare parts brings back a Cubs SS is crazy.
Of course he isn't untouchable  
steve in ky : 5/15/2015 11:09 pm : link
probably nobody truly is other than Harvey. However I can't believe anyone really thinks that moving Cuddyer to first base and trading Duda is the best plan at this point. He is young in baseball terms. He has no wear and tear, his game does not rely on his speed. He is young in the sense he is one piece that can hopefully an important part of the team moving forward so not any real benefit trading him and simply create another need.
Oh christ  
Giants2012 : 5/15/2015 11:12 pm : link
Typical Mets fans emotion


NOBODY said it was thr best idea. I said maybe we can think out of the box. If the return for Duda is (forget it, not typing it again).

Well  
steve in ky : 5/15/2015 11:17 pm : link
The whole point of thinking out of the box is usually to come up with a great idea that wouldn't be automatically considered otherwise. I don't follow your logic at all if you agree is probably isn't the best way to move forward.
Oh and as far as fans emotions  
steve in ky : 5/15/2015 11:21 pm : link
I am the one who is staying level headed about the current losing streak and not being emotional and getting too caught up in the feast and famine aspects of a 162 game season.
Well  
Giants2012 : 5/15/2015 11:23 pm : link
Status quo wins then. Here is your team. Enjoy staying in the box. Thank goodness the Mets kept David Wright for years b/c losing him would have created just another hole. Let's keep them all, keep losing and hoping.

Here is your team.
Oh well  
Rflairr : 5/15/2015 11:24 pm : link
Looks like the Nats are basically all the way back to first in no time. Unreal
As Bryce hits  
Rflairr : 5/15/2015 11:25 pm : link
Another
Matz now  
Tanker20 : 5/15/2015 11:33 pm : link
6 innings 8 k's 1 hit 1 walk
Tulo left tonights game with an apparent injury  
Giants2012 : 5/16/2015 12:01 am : link
When running down first base line
Tulo  
Giants2012 : 5/16/2015 12:03 am : link
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Yikes  
Tanker20 : 5/16/2015 12:17 am : link
Just stay away from Tulo unless its a salary dump
Trade Neise and eat some money  
ZGiants98 : 5/16/2015 8:47 am : link
Bring back a nice reliever. I'm ready for the Matz/Thor show. The bats will come around eventually! I'm in the city boys. Rangers game today! Mets tomorrow! LGR/LGM!
Cuddyer is a great hitter?  
sb from NYT Forum : 5/16/2015 8:50 am : link
He's hit more than 30 HRs once. He's hit more than 100 RBIs once. He's is a career .278 hitter. He strikes out and doesn't get walks. He's been significantly injured two of the past 3 years.

Apart from one outlier year (2013), he is playing to his career average. The guy is Kevin freakin McReynolds, except old and broken down.
Nimmo injured too  
ZGiants98 : 5/16/2015 8:54 am : link
Not sure if you guys mentioned it.(knee). The injuries have really been unbelievable this year. It's sad.
Tulo is just a complete disaster  
ZGiants98 : 5/16/2015 8:57 am : link
I'd rather have Ruben Tejada at this point.
Matz is ready  
Headhunter : 5/16/2015 9:10 am : link
7 2/3 2 runs 3 hits 2BB 9 k 100 pitches

Wasting time in AAA
Its time to  
spike : 5/16/2015 9:18 am : link
call up Reynolds.. DL Herrera
they DL'd Herrera  
pjcas18 : 5/16/2015 9:32 am : link
and called up Campbell
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