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NFT: Red Sox at it again: Set to sign another Cuban infielder

superspynyg : 5/16/2015 8:53 am
Cerse is a 28 year old 2b. He is exempt from international rules. Not like the Yanks need infield help anyway.
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Maybe  
BigBlueShock : 5/16/2015 8:59 am : link
they should just think about relocating to Havana?
Do you know anything about Cerse other than  
Rob in CT/NYC : 5/16/2015 9:12 am : link
The fact that the Sox signed him?
Shock  
aquidneck : 5/16/2015 9:29 am : link
MLB should put a franchise in Havana now that the trade embargo has been lifted.
I could see the Sox moving Pedroia  
Giants2012 : 5/16/2015 9:33 am : link
out prior to his wheels falling off.
RE: Do you know anything about Cerse other than  
Semipro Lineman : 5/16/2015 10:06 am : link
In comment 12288820 Rob in CT/NYC said:
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The fact that the Sox signed him?


No but on BBI that's enough to make people
Isn't there a Cuban starting pitcher about to be cleared to sign?  
yatqb : 5/16/2015 11:57 am : link
That's who I'd like to go for.
RE: Isn't there a Cuban starting pitcher about to be cleared to sign?  
RasputinPrime : 5/16/2015 1:07 pm : link
In comment 12288939 yatqb said:
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That's who I'd like to go for.


He is subject to the signing rules and teams like the Rox and Yankees won't be able to field a competitive offer.
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yatqb : 5/16/2015 1:11 pm : link
In comment 12288990 RasputinPrime said:
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In comment 12288939 yatqb said:


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That's who I'd like to go for.



He is subject to the signing rules and teams like the Rox and Yankees won't be able to field a competitive offer.


I thought if he was cleared before June 15th (?) he could still be signed by either of us, as it wouldn't count toward next year's $.
They  
Doomster : 5/16/2015 3:24 pm : link
are going to have the highest payroll at their AAA club.....
this guy won't be at AAA  
WeatherMan : 5/16/2015 4:01 pm : link
he projects as a utility man and will be starting in single A ball. Not exactly an expensive signing here folks.
RE: this guy won't be at AAA  
Giants2012 : 5/16/2015 4:04 pm : link
In comment 12289269 WeatherMan said:
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he projects as a utility man and will be starting in single A ball. Not exactly an expensive signing here folks.


It is a proactive signing though. Meanwhile in Flushing . . . .
Yeah, I wish the Mets  
pjcas18 : 5/16/2015 4:36 pm : link
had a 28 year old cuban second baseman in A ball.

If that's proactive I'd rather not be it.
RE: Yeah, I wish the Mets  
Giants2012 : 5/16/2015 4:47 pm : link
In comment 12289306 pjcas18 said:
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had a 28 year old cuban second baseman in A ball.

If that's proactive I'd rather not be it.


Well good news, being the Mets aren't proactive they literally don't have a 2nd baseman or SS in the entire system worth mentioning with Hererra going down.
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pjcas18 : 5/16/2015 4:52 pm : link
In comment 12289311 Giants2012 said:
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In comment 12289306 pjcas18 said:


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had a 28 year old cuban second baseman in A ball.

If that's proactive I'd rather not be it.



Well good news, being the Mets aren't proactive they literally don't have a 2nd baseman or SS in the entire system worth mentioning with Hererra going down.


I'm not exactly super positive about the Mets right now either, but Ahmed Rosario is unanimously recognized as a top 100 prospect at SS, in A+ already at 19 years old.

Same pretty much with Herrera at 2B (and a little older) - who has already hit the majors.

I'd love a young power hitting OFer and maybe one of the Cuban prospects would have been perfect, but I'm not the least bit upset the Mets didn't sign a 28 year old Cuban SS who will be in A ball to start.
I know  
Giants2012 : 5/16/2015 4:57 pm : link
I'm just saying the Sox are proactive. Good or bad, they're in the market. They keep trying. They win World Series Championships, the signed Gonzo, Crawford, etc and then parted ways when it didn't work and keep trying. They have Boggy and still land Moncanda (spell?)

The Mets wouldn't even part ways with Castillo.


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pjcas18 : 5/16/2015 5:02 pm : link
In comment 12289316 Giants2012 said:
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I'm just saying the Sox are proactive. Good or bad, they're in the market. They keep trying. They win World Series Championships, the signed Gonzo, Crawford, etc and then parted ways when it didn't work and keep trying. They have Boggy and still land Moncanda (spell?)

The Mets wouldn't even part ways with Castillo.



that I agree with, even love what the Yankees did, they signed like 8 of the top 10 IFA's knowing they'd blow their IFA budget, but so what, pick a year and be aggressive.

this year though the Red Sox neglected pitching - at least initially - they had 5 #2 starters if you consider Miley, Porcello, Kelly, Buchholz and masterson as #3's so with their investment of Panda, Hanley, and others they're an incomplete team unless those #3's pitch like #1's (and some of them can).

So that's why I pick them as a trade partner. an ace/#1 can give the Red Sox a legit playoff chance, Wheeler would have been the ideal trade candidate, but of course TJ, so I think you consider Thor or Matz and given that Matz is a lefty and Thor more valuable probably given his pedigree, he's the one I'd move.
this  
pjcas18 : 5/16/2015 5:03 pm : link
they had 5 #2 starters

should say:

they had 5 #3 starters
Wheeler would have made sense but  
Giants2012 : 5/16/2015 5:12 pm : link
would SA part him or anybody? Niese is a GP SP who may have been an option too.

The guy doesn't make a trade unless somebody else wants to take a big risk. The Giants took a risk on Beltran for the World Series. They missed on Beltran yet still managed to rebound and win again.

Good organizations make moves. Sandy Fold just fold his cards and teases everybody with his mouth. I think he's full of shit.
I can't explain it  
pjcas18 : 5/16/2015 5:18 pm : link
I just hope he's waiting until he feel like the team is "ready to contend" before striking with the big move.

And I don't think you need to make a big move for the sake of making a big move, but there are limited ways to add talent.

and the frustrating thing for fans is (individually at least) I had this year pegged as contention. This was before Harvey TJ and then Wheeler TJ and then Mejia suspended, Wright injured, TDA injured, and the hits keep coming.

In fairness Sandy turned Beltran and Dickey into Thor, TDA, and Herrera he's done well.

I just think he's running out of time or more accurately, I'm running out of patience, LOL.
this  
pjcas18 : 5/16/2015 5:19 pm : link
In fairness Sandy turned Beltran and Dickey into Thor, TDA, and Herrera he's done well.

should say

In fairness Sandy turned Beltran and Dickey into Wheeler, Thor, TDA, and Herrera he's done well.
But he found two teams willing to take a risk  
Giants2012 : 5/16/2015 5:26 pm : link
The Giants took a risk foe the World Series

The Blue Jays took a risk on a Cy Young Award winner and added multiple bats it hopes of winning that divison and a World Series

If Sandy Fold doesn't find a team "going for it" he folds and doesn't do anything. He couldn't even move Reyes and still can't figure out the SS position. Nothing creative.
my gosh  
Giants2012 : 5/16/2015 5:29 pm : link
His idea of creativity was signing old Cuddyer and losing a #1 pick in the process. Maverick? That's just dumb
The Mets  
pjcas18 : 5/16/2015 5:35 pm : link
need to trade a stud pitcher for a Joc Pederson or Mookie Betts

I mentioned Altuve on the other thread, he's a guy I'd look at too.

a middle of the order (in some cases) reliable bat who has a position (good or bad). It would change the whole complexion of the team.

Either work  
Giants2012 : 5/16/2015 5:42 pm : link
Not sure if Houston would part with him but he's the perfect leadoff hitter and a good defender.

The Dodgers do have a log jam in the outfield.

Sandy Fold excuses: we have Hererra and no OF spot. He folds.

such a lovable scrappy bunch of underdogs!  
Jints in Carolina : 5/16/2015 7:20 pm : link
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28, raw speed in need of serious work, no signing bonus  
WeatherMan : 5/16/2015 8:27 pm : link
and going to single A. This is picking off the bottom of the barrel folks.
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For a team  
PaulN : 5/16/2015 10:13 pm : link
That makes all great signings, has the farm system that is the envy of the league, and has made more fabulous trades than any team in baseball, they almost suck. Maybe its just that BSPN promotes them like the world depends on them. Where are they located again. Enough of their overblown promotion and exaggerated farm system.
Didn't the Mets sign Vlad's nephew?  
arcarsenal : 5/17/2015 10:49 am : link
Not sure how some 28 year old project is some great example of being active. I'm all for the Mets improving their pipe in any way possible but this hardly seems like a move they missed out on.
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