I know he was respected in Kansas City, and has a rep for being a mauling run blocker, but am a little wary from the limited sample size I have seen. Is he a shoo-in to be a dependable, stabilizing presence inside? What happens if he isn't what we thought he was, or if he gets the injury bug again?
"7th round draft pick. Panthers let him walk. Played for Vikings
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for one year in 2012 and they didn't resign him. Played for Chiefs for one year in 2013 and they didn't resign him.
First big contract was the Giants 4 year deal in 2014"
Thats a lot closer to what I think of him, that and the fact PFF had him graded as one of the worst guards in the NFL when he played in Kansas city.Public opinion and spin not withstanding.
One guys Kvelling is another guys fischemelled mess.
That brings up the question as to why the Giants didn't move him over to RG after Snee retired and continued to use him on the left side.
If Schwartz is healthy, I think he'll be a very good player on the O-Line. Its just that bit of staying healthy. I think having Schwartz between Richburg at Center and Flowers at RT would make a huge difference for both youngsters.
Hopefully he'll stay healthy, but he's what 30 this year?
And, I don't remember him playing great for them last year before he got hurt.
Be surprised to see a lot posts re: being very confident about him.
Schwartz-Richburg-Pugh will be an upgrade over what we had last year inside.
Geoff Schwartz will return our O-Line to its former glory!
They didn't pay him a lot of money out of desperation. This is a guy who started out at OT which was a position that he struggled at. He was shifted to RG and played at a pro bowl level for Kansas City. This guy Antonio Pierce was an undrafted player who only had one good season in his contract year and the Giants gave him big money out of desperation.
Geoff Schwartz got 4 yr/16.8m with 5.7 guaranteed.
Not really close at all in terms of real money getting paid. Plus his money was reduced an awful lot this past March. He gets paid fairly well if he performs up to specific tasks. If he under-performs this season or gets another injury plagued year, he's toast. Baas was more difficult to dice because he had more money to deal with. Not so with Geoff.
First big contract was the Giants 4 year deal in 2014.
I think he's way too much of an unknown to know one way or the other. But I don't think its ever a good sign when other teams choose not to keep a player - no less to be with his 4th team in 4 years. To me, free agents are generally players that haven't played well enough to become essential to their teams. His record is pretty clear that he has never been essential to any team he's played for thus far in his career.
The Chiefs tried to re-sign him but they were in a tough situation with the cap being that they also had Branden Albert and Jon Asamoah hitting free agency. Kansas City also had Rodney Hudson entering the final year of his contract so the team had to make tough decisions and felt that Jeff Allen could step in and contribute along with draft picks Eric Fisher and Donald Stephenson.
Irregardless is not a standard word. It is a double negative, hence the nonstandard label.
It is either 'with irregards to' or 'regardless'. But since we lazy ass Americans butcher English on a regular basis, it is now a word.
I hope this was helpful, regardless.
I hope I'm wrong.
When he misses practically the entire season. :)
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Changed irreguardless to irregardless - how pathetic is that?
Irregardless is not a standard word. It is a double negative, hence the nonstandard label.
It is either 'with irregards to' or 'regardless'. But since we lazy ass Americans butcher English on a regular basis, it is now a word.
I hope this was helpful, regardless.
Yes I know that and never use the word. My whole point was the interesting coinage of the new word "irreguardless" in this context.
in him to spend the money that said as pathetic
as our run game was a healthy Schwartz is
a big plus . Just give us a solid run game
this season .
Its a crapshoot every year.
Think beason starts all 16 ? LOL
I am sure Schwartz misses games too.
Canty and Boley never missed a game...until they signed with the Giants. Are you going to blame Reese for that? Rolle never missed a game, period. No credit to Reese for that?
Of course it is, but you still blame Reese for some unfathomable reason.
I am sure Schwartz misses games too.
I'm glad that Giants' starters missing games makes you happy. I suggest you chew on tinfoil for a while, then comb your hair with a cheese grater. That would make me happy.
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for one year in 2012 and they didn't resign him. Played for Chiefs for one year in 2013 and they didn't resign him.
First big contract was the Giants 4 year deal in 2014.
I think he's way too much of an unknown to know one way or the other. But I don't think its ever a good sign when other teams choose not to keep a player - no less to be with his 4th team in 4 years. To me, free agents are generally players that haven't played well enough to become essential to their teams. His record is pretty clear that he has never been essential to any team he's played for thus far in his career.
The Chiefs tried to re-sign him but they were in a tough situation with the cap being that they also had Branden Albert and Jon Asamoah hitting free agency. Kansas City also had Rodney Hudson entering the final year of his contract so the team had to make tough decisions and felt that Jeff Allen could step in and contribute along with draft picks Eric Fisher and Donald Stephenson.
In other words, KC felt other players were essential and Schwartz was not. Just like I said.
This is another case where Reese backed himself into a corner, like Beatty and Baas.....he was desperate to get a lineman, and because there weren't many out there had to outbid/overpay.....
Irreguardless, I hope Schwartz has his second full season as a starter....we don't have much wiggle room....
Oh and TMS, that takes a lot of proof to call out someone for that. Schwartz is not working the system. Come on. Why would any team pay him if he can't stay on the field this year?
What I am worried about, is what is Plan B?
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for one year in 2012 and they didn't resign him. Played for Chiefs for one year in 2013 and they didn't resign him.
First big contract was the Giants 4 year deal in 2014.
I think he's way too much of an unknown to know one way or the other. But I don't think its ever a good sign when other teams choose not to keep a player - no less to be with his 4th team in 4 years. To me, free agents are generally players that haven't played well enough to become essential to their teams. His record is pretty clear that he has never been essential to any team he's played for thus far in his career.
The Chiefs tried to re-sign him but they were in a tough situation with the cap being that they also had Branden Albert and Jon Asamoah hitting free agency. Kansas City also had Rodney Hudson entering the final year of his contract so the team had to make tough decisions and felt that Jeff Allen could step in and contribute along with draft picks Eric Fisher and Donald Stephenson.
In other words, KC felt other players were essential and Schwartz was not. Just like I said.
Yep. and for all the talk of his "big year" at KC, he only started 7 games.
I'm hoping for the best!