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NFT: Mets/Brewers rubber game - Thor comes to Queens!

spike : 5/17/2015 9:42 am
Syndergaard is making his Flushing debut at 1 pm!!

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Good time to keep the good vibes going  
Eric on Li : 5/17/2015 2:24 pm : link
Cuddyer has been a little overaggressive so far at the plate today. I like that he's looking to get a hit but he if he waits for a pitch here, he'll get something good.
perfectly executed Cuddyer!  
GMenLTS : 5/17/2015 2:25 pm : link
well done, sir!
nice time  
spike : 5/17/2015 2:26 pm : link
to get the offense back on track because the Cards are coming next
Random thought  
Eric on Li : 5/17/2015 2:28 pm : link
Lagares + Montero + solid 3rd piece (obviously not Thor/Matz) for Gomez - do you do it?
That was big for Cuddyer  
Headhunter : 5/17/2015 2:28 pm : link
if he popped it up, bad things would of been in his head. He hit in a hitters count and produced
That was strike three  
Headhunter : 5/17/2015 2:32 pm : link
he fooled the ump
You want to trade this for a  
Headhunter : 5/17/2015 2:34 pm : link
Jim Fergosi type? I've lived through that once and still am not over it
RE: Random thought  
spike : 5/17/2015 2:35 pm : link
In comment 12290014 Eric on Li said:
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Lagares + Montero + solid 3rd piece (obviously not Thor/Matz) for Gomez - do you do it?


No. Lagares is untouchable
Is it fair to say Thor's first 2 starts  
Eric on Li : 5/17/2015 2:40 pm : link
have been as good or better than the other recent debuts? JdG might have been slightly more impressive given the situation, but he also benefited from being far more under the radar. Thor's control looks better than Wheeler's did early. Harvey had a different energy from day 1 and knowing what he is makes it hard to compare.
Again if Matz is what the scouts say he is  
Headhunter : 5/17/2015 2:41 pm : link
Wheeler comes back and is Wheeler, it is an almost unimaginable rotation that I've never seen in my lifetime as a Met fan
This rotation  
spike : 5/17/2015 2:45 pm : link
has the potential to be better than the Nats.

Now the bats need to wake up.

Harvey, DeGrom, Syndergaard, Wheeler/Matz, Niese netx season. Gee is the long man.

IF he stays healthy, Niese gets traded mid season 2016 for Matz' Super TWO arrival
shite  
spike : 5/17/2015 2:45 pm : link
Syndergaarad just threw the hammer down on Gomez
Glad Gomez appears to be ok  
Eric on Li : 5/17/2015 2:49 pm : link
this is a good test to see how Thor controls the emotions here. Hopefully he can settle down and move past it.
freckin  
spike : 5/17/2015 2:56 pm : link
Ryan juicer Braun
Noah  
spike : 5/17/2015 2:59 pm : link
is hitting a wall here. time to start up the pen
I am sorry that Gomez got hit  
Headhunter : 5/17/2015 3:02 pm : link
I hope he is OK. It just got away from him. But, for Syndergaard working out of it giving up just a run on not too bad of a pitch to Braun should pay dividends for Thor
Thor did his job.  
Ira : 5/17/2015 3:02 pm : link
He had a very good first home outing.
Robles throwing serious  
Headhunter : 5/17/2015 3:48 pm : link
gas
Marlins fired  
CMicks3110 : 5/17/2015 3:50 pm : link
Mike Redmond
.  
CMicks3110 : 5/17/2015 3:50 pm : link
Rising Apple @RisingAppleBlog
RT @MarlinManiac: Breaking: Mike Redmond out as #Marlins manager
RE: I am sorry that Gomez got hit  
Eric on Li : 5/17/2015 4:28 pm : link
In comment 12290046 Headhunter said:
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I hope he is OK. It just got away from him. But, for Syndergaard working out of it giving up just a run on not too bad of a pitch to Braun should pay dividends for Thor


Only correction he needs to make going forward is continuing to attack the inside part of the plate. Keith said it during the AB with Braun that he was away with everything, and I just saw some post-game comments from Thor that he was initially rattled and hesitant to go back inside. I actually think it's great he freely admitted that, realized it, and can hopefully learn from it in the future.
They are going to talk about  
Headhunter : 5/17/2015 4:29 pm : link
the rotation going forward. That has to be a very short conversation I would think
No way can they send Thor down  
Eric on Li : 5/17/2015 4:32 pm : link
Learning from experiences like today is the exact thing that his development needs that he just can't get in AAA. Working through the psychological stuff that happens when it's Carlos Gomez and Ryan Braun that are up at bat.
I would think that the decision has been  
Headhunter : 5/17/2015 4:48 pm : link
made that the Thor era has begun. His next start is next Friday against the Pirates, Gee is rehabbing so there is no need to do anything for a few days. Encouraging that Wright will begin baseball activities on Monday
Is this the 3rd week in a row now...  
arcarsenal : 5/17/2015 5:15 pm : link
...that Wright was supposed to resume baseball activities on Monday?

At this point, I guess I'll believe it when I see it because apparently it did not happen last Monday or the one before.

Excellent outing for Thor today and a solid W overall. Hopefully we're getting back on track a bit here.
What this team needs is a couple of great trades for hitters  
81_Great_Dane : 5/17/2015 6:43 pm : link
in the class of Neil Allen and Rick Ownby for Keith Hernandez, or Hubie Brooks and some decent prospects for Gary Carter. They need to consolidate their talent, flip some surplus good-to-very-good prospects into a couple of elite players while keeping their own top prospects. Hard to pull off nowadays but not impossible.

It'd be even better if they turned up an elite position player or three from their farm system.
RE: Is this the 3rd week in a row now...  
Johnny Boy : 5/17/2015 7:09 pm : link
In comment 12290117 arcarsenal said:
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...that Wright was supposed to resume baseball activities on Monday?

At this point, I guess I'll believe it when I see it because apparently it did not happen last Monday or the one before.

Excellent outing for Thor today and a solid W overall. Hopefully we're getting back on track a bit here.

It's time to realize that David Wright is the second coming of Big Pussy.
I'm paraphrasing cause I can't link from phone  
Headhunter : 5/17/2015 7:15 pm : link
Carlos Gomez asks " how could the Blue Jays trade him to the Mets?" "He is going to be so good I can't wait to face him again"
I like Gomez and was glad to hear  
Ira : 5/17/2015 8:48 pm : link
that the early word is that he didn't have a concussion - just facial bruising.
RE: What this team needs is a couple of great trades for hitters  
Ten Ton Hammer : 5/17/2015 8:59 pm : link
In comment 12290155 81_Great_Dane said:
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in the class of Neil Allen and Rick Ownby for Keith Hernandez, or Hubie Brooks and some decent prospects for Gary Carter. They need to consolidate their talent, flip some surplus good-to-very-good prospects into a couple of elite players while keeping their own top prospects. Hard to pull off nowadays but not impossible.

It'd be even better if they turned up an elite position player or three from their farm system.


I don't disagree with your point, but trouble is what are you comfortable giving up?

If you want a great hitter in this era, (and if anyone has noticed, we're absolutely in a pitching-dominatined era) you have to give up a great pitcher. You're just not getting good hitters for free anymore. And if you want a power hitter? Good luck. Feels like taking roids and other meds out of the game has had a far-reaching effect.
were are 1 great hitter from being a really good team  
CGiants07 : 5/17/2015 9:27 pm : link
...giving up 1 stud pitcher wouldn't kill us if come june to july we want to add something
RE: No way can they send Thor down  
CGiants07 : 5/17/2015 9:31 pm : link
In comment 12290095 Eric on Li said:
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Learning from experiences like today is the exact thing that his development needs that he just can't get in AAA. Working through the psychological stuff that happens when it's Carlos Gomez and Ryan Braun that are up at bat.


if he pitches like he has the first 2 times out tell gee to get his bp game in gear
What would the return on Thor be  
Giants2012 : 5/17/2015 9:39 pm : link
on the market?
The only top prospect  
spike : 5/17/2015 9:50 pm : link
tradeable is Montero. Top five stays.

All position players are expendable except Lagares. Im open to trading DW

I don't see Wilpon trading Wright  
Ira : 5/18/2015 6:13 am : link
and with constant minor injuries and his high contract, I don't see anyone else willing to take him.
I'm not trading our top 5 young arms  
Headhunter : 5/18/2015 6:48 am : link
It is freaky that they all seem to be working out. Next up Matz. They could plug a Tovar or Gullorme at SS and put Flores at 2nd and I'd take my chances winning 2-1 or 3-2.
RE: I don't see Wilpon trading Wright  
Shecky : 5/18/2015 7:12 am : link
In comment 12290453 Ira said:
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and with constant minor injuries and his high contract, I don't see anyone else willing to take him.


Serious question. How come us fans never view our own players as worth anything, but comparable players on other teams we debate how big of a package to offer. Then say the other team would laugh at our offers as being too little?
RE: The only top prospect  
Giants2012 : 5/18/2015 7:22 am : link
In comment 12290306 spike said:
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tradeable is Montero. Top five stays.

All position players are expendable except Lagares. Im open to trading DW


In other words, just another day as a Mets fan. We don't want to even disucss trading anything but lesser talent and get blindsided by losses.

Now that DW's wheels are falling off lol.
Craig Counsell  
Headhunter : 5/18/2015 7:28 am : link
"He is one of the hardest throwers we've seen this year" considering that Chapman, Wacka, Coles in the Central Division alone, that is saying something
RE: RE: I don't see Wilpon trading Wright  
PhiPsi125 : 5/18/2015 7:36 am : link
In comment 12290460 Shecky said:
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In comment 12290453 Ira said:


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and with constant minor injuries and his high contract, I don't see anyone else willing to take him.



Serious question. How come us fans never view our own players as worth anything, but comparable players on other teams we debate how big of a package to offer. Then say the other team would laugh at our offers as being too little?


Fair point and good question.

Another thing...take Tulo out of Colorado and DW is the better offensive player. And it's probably not close. Can't wait for the captain to come back.
Any speculation on the new Marlins manager?  
Shecky : 5/18/2015 7:58 am : link
I haven't personally heard anything, but was wondering about who they plan to bring in. It won't be a no name, and it won't be a big money signing - so I am lost as to even make a guess at who it could be. Has anyone heard anything?
They are naming Dan Jennings their GM with 0  
Headhunter : 5/18/2015 8:02 am : link
Managerial experience as their new Manager. That banging sound you hear is Giancarlo Stanton banging his head against the wall
RE: They are naming Dan Jennings their GM with 0  
Shecky : 5/18/2015 8:09 am : link
In comment 12290479 Headhunter said:
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Managerial experience as their new Manager. That banging sound you hear is Giancarlo Stanton banging his head against the wall


You serious or joking? Sad, with the Marlins you never can tell...
It's all over  
Headhunter : 5/18/2015 8:10 am : link
serious as a heart attack
RE: It's all over  
Shecky : 5/18/2015 8:14 am : link
In comment 12290485 Headhunter said:
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serious as a heart attack


Wow!!! Hiring a scout as your manager?? Even for the Marlins, that's a new low...
The Marlins are terribly run.  
arcarsenal : 5/18/2015 8:31 am : link
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really how low is it?  
pjcas18 : 5/18/2015 8:35 am : link
scouts becomes GM's if they're good an their careers ascend, and let's face it, baseball manager is not exactly rocket science. there have been some pretty poor managers with managerial experience, I find this approach outside the box and refreshing instead of hiring retread after retread (yes you art howe and terry collins).

honestly I can't say I'd prefer Terry Collins over their manager - and I know zero about him.
Marlins are a VERY young locker room  
Shecky : 5/18/2015 9:00 am : link
EXTREMELY dangerous without a strong leader, especially if he doesn't grab them by the throat and get the respect. Media will have a field day with this regardless of how Loria and Samson try to spin this. The worst thing Marlins need to deal with is their league low payroll and how they cheated out on a manager. This doesn't work and they face the horrible choice of blowing it all up. Again. Goodbye TV contract, hello new owner...
Gomez is a class act. Two tweets to Thor -  
Ira : 5/18/2015 9:17 am : link
Carlos Gomez ✔@C_Gomez27
@Noahsyndergaard Thx for the concern bro, it's part of the game. Thank God I'm ok. Keep up the good work, ur going to be a great pitcher!
9:12 PM - 17 May 2015



Carlos GomezVerified account
‏@C_Gomez27
@Noahsyndergaard Put that behind you brother, continue to work hard. Good luck and God bless!!
Gomez  
DanMetroMan : 5/18/2015 9:25 am : link
is considered an A+ teammate as well. He showboats so "he must be a dick".
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