Supposedly Mets considering moving Flores to 2B and calling up Reynolds when Wright gets healthy (and theoretically trading Murphy). Personally I think that's an excellent idea because it improves the defense around the entire IF and as much as we all put Murphy on a pedestal, Flores has a much higher upside both offensively and defensively. I wanted him to get a fair shot at 2B the entire offseason, at this point I don't if it makes a difference with his throwing issues but I don't want to give up on his bat. Mets weigh Reynolds callup, Murphy trade, Flores move - ( New Window )
But I think it's a long term decision that's best left until the offseason after seeing what Flores does with the bat over a full season. Herrera still seems to need some seasoning before he's ready to have a meaningful role with the big club anyways.
I don't think it is as much as we Murphy on a pedestal but that the guy can flat out hit. Granted he is off to a slower start this season, the whole teams seems to be. But the big question is on a team that has so much trouble hitting if you trade Murphy does Flores or whomever adequately replace him. Trading him before having found out the answer there is a risk. Not saying it shouldn't happen but on a team full of anemic hitters they would be giving up one of their better hitters.
Murphy is one of the few Mets that does well in clutch situations. Here are his clutch stats.
and he's absolutely one of the guys on the roster I'd trust most to put the bat on the ball in a big spot. But at some point they need to start solving long term problems. For a while now we've known that Murphy isn't getting resigned. IMO it's always been debatable as to how much his defense/baserunning balance out anything he does with the bat. Flores at SS will never be an ideal long term solution, even if it's workable.
At this point Flores has shown a knack for getting hits in big spots and I don't think it's far fetched to see him hitting 20 HRs this year. That's the stock I would be looking to invest in over the rest of the season and I think the best investment in him is at the less demanding defensive position (2B) with a stronger defensive player next to him.
Because Flores isn't going to be able to stay at 2B long-term. So even if you put him there and he's more natural there defensively, there's nowhere to put Herrera. Then we'd either have to trade Flores or put him back at SS anyway. And then there's Reynolds as well.
Someone's just going to have to get moved or be the odd man out. Even if Murphy isn't back next year, we are going to have 3 players and only to Middle IF positions to fill. Better to have this problem than the alternative, but...
I wish someone would do so well that it makes the choice obvious
but I don't see any reason Flores can't stick at 2B long term. Certainly far less concerns with that prospect than with his present situation. I like Herrera's athleticism better long term, but who knows how high Flores' upside is with the bat? I'm not ready to say Flores can't play his best position because Herrera is that good. Let's see where Flores' season ends up. We've seen that Herrera isn't quite ready yet, Reynolds deserves the next shot at the ML level.
Those guys are too rare. I could see him packaging Montero with a position player who loses as a spot (like Plawecki or Herrera), but that's about the max I see him dealing. Sidenote - I want to make that trade for Carlos Gomez.
Cuddyer has been a little overaggressive so far at the plate today. I like that he's looking to get a hit but he if he waits for a pitch here, he'll get something good.
have been as good or better than the other recent debuts? JdG might have been slightly more impressive given the situation, but he also benefited from being far more under the radar. Thor's control looks better than Wheeler's did early. Harvey had a different energy from day 1 and knowing what he is makes it hard to compare.
I hope he is OK. It just got away from him. But, for Syndergaard working out of it giving up just a run on not too bad of a pitch to Braun should pay dividends for Thor
I hope he is OK. It just got away from him. But, for Syndergaard working out of it giving up just a run on not too bad of a pitch to Braun should pay dividends for Thor
Only correction he needs to make going forward is continuing to attack the inside part of the plate. Keith said it during the AB with Braun that he was away with everything, and I just saw some post-game comments from Thor that he was initially rattled and hesitant to go back inside. I actually think it's great he freely admitted that, realized it, and can hopefully learn from it in the future.
Learning from experiences like today is the exact thing that his development needs that he just can't get in AAA. Working through the psychological stuff that happens when it's Carlos Gomez and Ryan Braun that are up at bat.
made that the Thor era has begun. His next start is next Friday against the Pirates, Gee is rehabbing so there is no need to do anything for a few days. Encouraging that Wright will begin baseball activities on Monday
in the class of Neil Allen and Rick Ownby for Keith Hernandez, or Hubie Brooks and some decent prospects for Gary Carter. They need to consolidate their talent, flip some surplus good-to-very-good prospects into a couple of elite players while keeping their own top prospects. Hard to pull off nowadays but not impossible.
It'd be even better if they turned up an elite position player or three from their farm system.
in the class of Neil Allen and Rick Ownby for Keith Hernandez, or Hubie Brooks and some decent prospects for Gary Carter. They need to consolidate their talent, flip some surplus good-to-very-good prospects into a couple of elite players while keeping their own top prospects. Hard to pull off nowadays but not impossible.
It'd be even better if they turned up an elite position player or three from their farm system.
I don't disagree with your point, but trouble is what are you comfortable giving up?
If you want a great hitter in this era, (and if anyone has noticed, we're absolutely in a pitching-dominatined era) you have to give up a great pitcher. You're just not getting good hitters for free anymore. And if you want a power hitter? Good luck. Feels like taking roids and other meds out of the game has had a far-reaching effect.
were are 1 great hitter from being a really good team
Learning from experiences like today is the exact thing that his development needs that he just can't get in AAA. Working through the psychological stuff that happens when it's Carlos Gomez and Ryan Braun that are up at bat.
if he pitches like he has the first 2 times out tell gee to get his bp game in gear
It is freaky that they all seem to be working out. Next up Matz. They could plug a Tovar or Gullorme at SS and put Flores at 2nd and I'd take my chances winning 2-1 or 3-2.
and with constant minor injuries and his high contract, I don't see anyone else willing to take him.
Serious question. How come us fans never view our own players as worth anything, but comparable players on other teams we debate how big of a package to offer. Then say the other team would laugh at our offers as being too little?
"He is one of the hardest throwers we've seen this year" considering that Chapman, Wacka, Coles in the Central Division alone, that is saying something
and with constant minor injuries and his high contract, I don't see anyone else willing to take him.
Serious question. How come us fans never view our own players as worth anything, but comparable players on other teams we debate how big of a package to offer. Then say the other team would laugh at our offers as being too little?
Fair point and good question.
Another thing...take Tulo out of Colorado and DW is the better offensive player. And it's probably not close. Can't wait for the captain to come back.
I haven't personally heard anything, but was wondering about who they plan to bring in. It won't be a no name, and it won't be a big money signing - so I am lost as to even make a guess at who it could be. Has anyone heard anything?
scouts becomes GM's if they're good an their careers ascend, and let's face it, baseball manager is not exactly rocket science. there have been some pretty poor managers with managerial experience, I find this approach outside the box and refreshing instead of hiring retread after retread (yes you art howe and terry collins).
honestly I can't say I'd prefer Terry Collins over their manager - and I know zero about him.
EXTREMELY dangerous without a strong leader, especially if he doesn't grab them by the throat and get the respect. Media will have a field day with this regardless of how Loria and Samson try to spin this. The worst thing Marlins need to deal with is their league low payroll and how they cheated out on a manager. This doesn't work and they face the horrible choice of blowing it all up. Again. Goodbye TV contract, hello new owner...
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@Noahsyndergaard Thx for the concern bro, it's part of the game. Thank God I'm ok. Keep up the good work, ur going to be a great pitcher!
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@Noahsyndergaard Put that behind you brother, continue to work hard. Good luck and God bless!!
Fire up the grill
Open the beer
Yell at the TV
:)
Curtis Granderson, RF
Eric Campbell, 3B
Lucas Duda, 1B
Michael Cuddyer, LF
Daniel Murphy, 2B
Wilmer Flores, SS
Johnny Monell, C
Noah Syndergaard, RHP
Juan Lagares, CF
Mets weigh Reynolds callup, Murphy trade, Flores move - ( New Window )
Murphy is one of the few Mets that does well in clutch situations. Here are his clutch stats.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.cgi?id=murphda08&year=Career&t=b#clutc
At this point Flores has shown a knack for getting hits in big spots and I don't think it's far fetched to see him hitting 20 HRs this year. That's the stock I would be looking to invest in over the rest of the season and I think the best investment in him is at the less demanding defensive position (2B) with a stronger defensive player next to him.
Someone's just going to have to get moved or be the odd man out. Even if Murphy isn't back next year, we are going to have 3 players and only to Middle IF positions to fill. Better to have this problem than the alternative, but...
And Curtis is heating up!
Yeah, that's what I was talking about earlier. If we could just have one of the infielders do that.
These guys are going to be fun to watch in the coming years.
Duda doubles
No. Lagares is untouchable
Now the bats need to wake up.
Harvey, DeGrom, Syndergaard, Wheeler/Matz, Niese netx season. Gee is the long man.
IF he stays healthy, Niese gets traded mid season 2016 for Matz' Super TWO arrival
RT @MarlinManiac: Breaking: Mike Redmond out as #Marlins manager
Only correction he needs to make going forward is continuing to attack the inside part of the plate. Keith said it during the AB with Braun that he was away with everything, and I just saw some post-game comments from Thor that he was initially rattled and hesitant to go back inside. I actually think it's great he freely admitted that, realized it, and can hopefully learn from it in the future.
At this point, I guess I'll believe it when I see it because apparently it did not happen last Monday or the one before.
Excellent outing for Thor today and a solid W overall. Hopefully we're getting back on track a bit here.
It'd be even better if they turned up an elite position player or three from their farm system.
At this point, I guess I'll believe it when I see it because apparently it did not happen last Monday or the one before.
Excellent outing for Thor today and a solid W overall. Hopefully we're getting back on track a bit here.
It's time to realize that David Wright is the second coming of Big Pussy.
It'd be even better if they turned up an elite position player or three from their farm system.
I don't disagree with your point, but trouble is what are you comfortable giving up?
If you want a great hitter in this era, (and if anyone has noticed, we're absolutely in a pitching-dominatined era) you have to give up a great pitcher. You're just not getting good hitters for free anymore. And if you want a power hitter? Good luck. Feels like taking roids and other meds out of the game has had a far-reaching effect.
if he pitches like he has the first 2 times out tell gee to get his bp game in gear
All position players are expendable except Lagares. Im open to trading DW
Serious question. How come us fans never view our own players as worth anything, but comparable players on other teams we debate how big of a package to offer. Then say the other team would laugh at our offers as being too little?
All position players are expendable except Lagares. Im open to trading DW
In other words, just another day as a Mets fan. We don't want to even disucss trading anything but lesser talent and get blindsided by losses.
Now that DW's wheels are falling off lol.
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and with constant minor injuries and his high contract, I don't see anyone else willing to take him.
Serious question. How come us fans never view our own players as worth anything, but comparable players on other teams we debate how big of a package to offer. Then say the other team would laugh at our offers as being too little?
Fair point and good question.
Another thing...take Tulo out of Colorado and DW is the better offensive player. And it's probably not close. Can't wait for the captain to come back.
You serious or joking? Sad, with the Marlins you never can tell...
Wow!!! Hiring a scout as your manager?? Even for the Marlins, that's a new low...
honestly I can't say I'd prefer Terry Collins over their manager - and I know zero about him.
@Noahsyndergaard Thx for the concern bro, it's part of the game. Thank God I'm ok. Keep up the good work, ur going to be a great pitcher!
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@Noahsyndergaard Put that behind you brother, continue to work hard. Good luck and God bless!!