Will go before the DH, as it should be. Wasted outs.
I don't think moving it back makes really any difference so I don't care either way on this move. Like someone posted above theres been maybe 2 or 3 fake PAT's I can remember in my lifetime
id like to thank the Commissioner for recognizing this and fixing it. by Commissioner i mean Tagliabue. by him intially putting the 2pt conversion in place was the 1st step in the right direction.
Make 1 pt attempts drop kick only. That's a great way to bring back a lost art, and keep true to the history of the game. Certainly, Drop Kicks (especially in bad weather) are not automatic!
I haven't tried it, but as I understand it the drop kick went out of favor when the shape of the ball was changed. The ball used to be more spherical, and had a somewhat flatter end. When they made it more elongated, that helped the passing game but made it very hard to drop kick.
I think a change is necessary, but only one very simple one makes sense to me: eliminate the 1 point kick option and leave the 2 point conversion from the 2 yard line.
Total scoring will be about the same, but instead of 1200+ nearly automatic (I think 5 extra point kicks failed in 2014 or 2013), you'll now have 1150+ more exciting plays (I think 50 to 70 two point conversions were attempted in 2014 or 2013).
Goodell will ruin this game yet.
I would be on board with a 2 pt conversion from the 2 and an extra point attempt from the 15. I believe there should be an option for a minimum of 3pts if a conversion into the end-zone is successful from the 15. This would add a little more excitement to numerous close games! JMHO.
My god can there ever be an adult discussion on this site
It is a valid point. You say the PAT is "a waste of time". Removing it is only going to get us to the commercial faster.
I guess you haven't ever watched a game televised on the fox network! You know, the network that runs commercials while plays are run, the ones you never see!!!! I have resorted to Fox and more times than I care to remember, the 1st down play ends, commercial and it returned to live action when it was 3rd down.
RE: RE: RE: I think it really changes the game in a bad way.
Yes, the 1-point kick is automatic, but late in the game depending on the score the ability to convert the 2-point play becomes crucial. And now that is going to have to be from the 15 yard line?
No - PATs would be from the 15. 2 point conversations will be from the 2.
So you have to declare and there is no possibility of deception?
Well, I would assume that if you line for 2, you can't simply dropkick it for 1. But if you line up for 1 from the 15, sure, I'd imagine you could pull something and go for 2.
The only rule changes I agree with, is for the safety of the players.....
Now, if we can only get rid of the designated hitter, the world will be a better place....
I'm with you.
I don't think moving it back makes really any difference so I don't care either way on this move. Like someone posted above theres been maybe 2 or 3 fake PAT's I can remember in my lifetime
could be anyone theoretically. The Mets could use it for Newenhuis :-)
this was the 2nd
cant believe people dont want this...
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Does the DH have to hit for the pitcher, or could you allow your pitcher to hit and let the DH hit for the SS?
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could be anyone theoretically. The Mets could use it for Newenhuis :-)
You can only DH for the pitcher, no one else.
Or do I have that wrong?
Total scoring will be about the same, but instead of 1200+ nearly automatic (I think 5 extra point kicks failed in 2014 or 2013), you'll now have 1150+ more exciting plays (I think 50 to 70 two point conversions were attempted in 2014 or 2013).
Goodell will ruin this game yet.
I would be on board with a 2 pt conversion from the 2 and an extra point attempt from the 15. I believe there should be an option for a minimum of 3pts if a conversion into the end-zone is successful from the 15. This would add a little more excitement to numerous close games! JMHO.
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My god can there ever be an adult discussion on this site
It is a valid point. You say the PAT is "a waste of time". Removing it is only going to get us to the commercial faster.
I guess you haven't ever watched a game televised on the fox network! You know, the network that runs commercials while plays are run, the ones you never see!!!! I have resorted to Fox and more times than I care to remember, the 1st down play ends, commercial and it returned to live action when it was 3rd down.
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Yes, the 1-point kick is automatic, but late in the game depending on the score the ability to convert the 2-point play becomes crucial. And now that is going to have to be from the 15 yard line?
No - PATs would be from the 15. 2 point conversations will be from the 2.
So you have to declare and there is no possibility of deception?
Well, I would assume that if you line for 2, you can't simply dropkick it for 1. But if you line up for 1 from the 15, sure, I'd imagine you could pull something and go for 2.
Doug Flutie's dropkick; first in NFL since 1948
And...check this out!
Pat McAfee hits a 55 yard dropkick FG!.