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NFT: Game 2: Tampa Bay Lightning @ NY Rangers

yankeeslover : 5/18/2015 10:05 am
lets get over the game 2 hump and put the pressure on the bolts... LGR!!!!!!!!!
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And I'm trying to figure out who is more consistently wrong:  
MetsAreBack : 5/19/2015 11:55 am : link
pjcas or the analyst on cbssportsline who gives his daily playoff predictions.

We all know the only reason we came back on the Caps was because pjcas called handshakes during game 5.
RE: RE: after a game like that the thing you are itching  
pjcas18 : 5/19/2015 12:00 pm : link
In comment 12292667 BrettNYG10 said:
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for the most is just to get back on the ice.

Rangers come out strong and correct this blip. Rangers want a 5v5 game.



Please tell me you pick TB in 5 now?


Rangers in 5. and then they sweep the weak west.
Jesus fucking Christ, pj.  
BrettNYG10 : 5/19/2015 12:01 pm : link
You jinxy cunt!
RE: mab, arc  
BrettNYG10 : 5/19/2015 12:01 pm : link
In comment 12292701 djm said:
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that's fair..


And I'm unfair?

Fuck you, djm.

(If only Nash had this fire...)
RE: And I'm trying to figure out who is more consistently wrong:  
pjcas18 : 5/19/2015 12:02 pm : link
In comment 12292704 MetsAreBack said:
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pjcas or the analyst on cbssportsline who gives his daily playoff predictions.

We all know the only reason we came back on the Caps was because pjcas called handshakes during game 5.


well I did say the three highest ranked teams I had were all East teams the Rangers (1) lightning (2) and Capitals (3), so game to game I might be off, but not that drastically for the whole playoffs.

And I also said the ducks could beat Chicago and it wouldn't shock me when most of this site was bemoaning the cake walk the Blackhawks had to the SCF.
RE: Jesus fucking Christ, pj.  
pjcas18 : 5/19/2015 12:03 pm : link
In comment 12292716 BrettNYG10 said:
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You jinxy cunt!


It's not a jinx if it's not my team. Rangers got the wake up call they needed.

Just need to figure out a way to get Kreider to play every single shift.
RE: RE: Nash is +3 this entire postseason  
BrettNYG10 : 5/19/2015 12:06 pm : link
In comment 12292693 MetsAreBack said:
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Nash is 2nd on the team in points -7





He's 3rd actually. Stepan at 10 and Brassard at 9. And people get on Brassard because he's committing a lot of stupid penalties - so while that doesnt hurt his personal +/-... it hurts the team.

Look we all just want to win a damn cup - right now there's no difference between this franchise and what San Jose and Vancouver accomplished last decade. Just win one - I'm not greedy, i'm not ever mistaking this group for a dynasty. But just get Hank his one.

And that means scoring goals - because guess what, it's a fucking miracle we're still alive having scored just 2 or fewer goals in 11 of 14 games now.


It's even worse than your last line indicates - they've scored one or less goals in regulation in half their fucking games.

Averaging 1.64 goals in regulation.
RE: RE: Jesus fucking Christ, pj.  
BrettNYG10 : 5/19/2015 12:07 pm : link
In comment 12292722 pjcas18 said:
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You jinxy cunt!



It's not a jinx if it's not my team. Rangers got the wake up call they needed.

Just need to figure out a way to get Kreider to play every single shift.


Deep down you're a Rangers fan.
Chicago - cakewalk?  
MetsAreBack : 5/19/2015 12:07 pm : link
this was on BBI?

In what universe is Nashville - Minnesota - Anaheim a cakewalk road to SCF?

And most here said this Chicago - Anaheim series could go either way. Vegas said it was a pick 'em too by the way.

You are awarded zero points - I dont even know what "they could beat Chicago" even means...

You said the other day the Rangers were beating TBL easily... KISS OF DEATH, just as it was in game 5 to the Caps ("I predict hand shakes") - Tony must hate you right now... just go back to Canada and enjoy your escargot with Bordeaux, you whiny cunt diver!
Everyone said Anaheim had the cakewalk to WCF.  
BrettNYG10 : 5/19/2015 12:09 pm : link
Not Chicago.
calm down you ninnies  
Greg from LI : 5/19/2015 12:12 pm : link
Do I have to turn the hose on?
RE: RE: RE: Jesus fucking Christ, pj.  
pjcas18 : 5/19/2015 12:22 pm : link
In comment 12292726 BrettNYG10 said:
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You jinxy cunt!



It's not a jinx if it's not my team. Rangers got the wake up call they needed.

Just need to figure out a way to get Kreider to play every single shift.



Deep down you're a Rangers fan.


I don't hate the Rangers, but definitely not a fan. Truth be told I like when they lose to see the meltdowns on here. but I respect talent when I see it.

I do like seeing the American players do well. So Kreider, Stepan, Hayes, McDonagh I like when they do well (Yandle not so much, I think he's soft) - same with Boyle, Callahan, Bishop, etc. I like seeing them do well when they're not playing the Canadiens.

this time of year I like good hockey, tight checking, low(er) scoring OT games. I have no vested interest in who wins.

I'm amazed by Kane, but also think Kesler gets lost in the shuffle in Anaheim and is probably underrated. I like watching all those guys play.



The hell with the negative stuff  
Ron Johnson : 5/19/2015 12:27 pm : link
who won the President's trophy us or them?

Let's Go Rangers .... kick their asses tomorrow night
RE: RE: RE: RE: Jesus fucking Christ, pj.  
BrettNYG10 : 5/19/2015 12:28 pm : link
In comment 12292742 pjcas18 said:
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In comment 12292722 pjcas18 said:


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You jinxy cunt!



It's not a jinx if it's not my team. Rangers got the wake up call they needed.

Just need to figure out a way to get Kreider to play every single shift.



Deep down you're a Rangers fan.



#lgr


FTFY.

And agree on Kesler. I really like him.
I'm gonna have to go ahead and blow the whistle on that one  
Greg from LI : 5/19/2015 12:31 pm : link
You perpetually mock Callahan for whining and diving....yet you really like Kesler?

I see nothing.  
BrettNYG10 : 5/19/2015 12:32 pm : link
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And I also love Brassard and he's a whining diver.  
BrettNYG10 : 5/19/2015 12:34 pm : link
Consistency is overrated.
diving and hockey  
pjcas18 : 5/19/2015 12:35 pm : link
is so overblown.

and not just saying that as a Habs fan.

the most hypocritical thing is Claude Julien's press conference montage from last year's playoffs.

Put together by a Canuck's fan. It's hilarious.


Embelishment City - ( New Window )
I would be much obliged if they could score at least three goals  
Greg from LI : 5/19/2015 12:36 pm : link
in game 3. I honestly don't think that's too much to ask.
to me there's a difference between selling a call and outright diving  
Greg from LI : 5/19/2015 12:37 pm : link
The former is a part of the game. The latter is garbage.
RE: to me there's a difference between selling a call and outright diving  
pjcas18 : 5/19/2015 12:41 pm : link
In comment 12292777 Greg from LI said:
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The former is a part of the game. The latter is garbage.


I agree, and I think the majority of embelishment is selling a call. some diving, but very little.

anyone who has played hockey knows the stick comes up your natural reaction is snap your head back away from the stick - not to draw a penalty, but to limit the damage. and if the stick makes contact, the first thing you do is check to see if it drew blood or what the damage is. sometimes you react quick enough to avoid damage or the high stick altogether but IMO you're not being a pussy, it's just human nature.

those I have sympathy for (the high sticks).
RE: I would be much obliged if they could score at least three goals  
arcarsenal : 5/19/2015 12:42 pm : link
In comment 12292774 Greg from LI said:
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in game 3. I honestly don't think that's too much to ask.


It might be.

I'd be surprised if we saw this team score more than 3 goals in any game for the remainder of the playoffs. I honestly just think this is how it's going to be for as long as we can stay alive. Every win is going to be 2-1 or 3-2.

I keep going into every game thinking "this HAS to be the one where they have a goal explosion like Game 1 vs. MTL last year.. " and I keep thinking we will have that game where we win by like 3 goals. And I keep thinking we will finally win a Game 2 at home.

Those things just won't happen. The sooner we accept it, the better.
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arcarsenal : 5/19/2015 12:44 pm : link
(I know we won a Game 2 at home vs. WSH.. but that was only because we uncharacteristically lost Game 1)
People are getting on Sather about Straman vs D Boyle  
Sonic Youth : 5/19/2015 12:45 pm : link
Don't get me wrong, I agree with all of you. However, if I recall correctly, the issue with Stralman was that he wanted more years than the Rangers wanted to give.

As for Brian Boyle, we could absolutely use him. He's great on faceoffs, and turns it up in the playoffs (anti-Nash).

Im over last night  
Deej : 5/19/2015 12:46 pm : link
I just cant have another post-Game 2 emotional melt down. Our DNA is to embarrass ourselves in game 2s. Just get one back in TB.

But for god's sake, where is the fucking offense? We were #3 in the NHL in goals scored this season, at 3+ per game.
We stunk yesterday...no excuses  
Torrag : 5/19/2015 12:47 pm : link
Too many turnovers and we didn't support the puck or each other.

That said I'd like for once the referees to call it both ways for the Rangers. I know we took undisciplined penalties but the Lightning could easily have been called for the same type infractions...and weren't.

Hey Rick you're embarrassing yourself at this point wake the fuck up. On to game 3.
RE: People are getting on Sather about Straman vs D Boyle  
Deej : 5/19/2015 12:47 pm : link
In comment 12292792 Sonic Youth said:
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Don't get me wrong, I agree with all of you. However, if I recall correctly, the issue with Stralman was that he wanted more years than the Rangers wanted to give.

As for Brian Boyle, we could absolutely use him. He's great on faceoffs, and turns it up in the playoffs (anti-Nash).


I think the Stralman-years thing is unverified. I really think Sather wanted a PP QB. He's addicted to finding a PP QB.
that might have been the company line on Stralman  
Greg from LI : 5/19/2015 12:47 pm : link
But he never received another offer from the team after declining their first offer. They clearly weren't particularly interested in re-signing him.
Sather blew it on Stralman v D Boyle  
Torrag : 5/19/2015 12:55 pm : link
Plain and simple. They could afford one and he identified and targeted Boyle as a desired free agent acquisition months before. He blew it on this one. Age and Stralman's contribution to our 2014 season and Finals appearance should have made this one a no brainer.

Since the league via the new CBA/salary cap forced Sather to change his modus operandi he has gotten a lot more right than worng imo. Not in this case...
Honesly just completely fucking tired  
Kyle in NY : 5/19/2015 1:23 pm : link
of hearing about the Stralman/Boyle thing. It's done. Boyle is playing fine. Must we continue to beat this dead horse?
Yes.  
BrettNYG10 : 5/19/2015 1:34 pm : link
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I still bitch about trading Zubov  
Greg from LI : 5/19/2015 1:37 pm : link
And that was 20 years ago, so.....yes, absolutely.
RE: I still bitch about trading Zubov  
Giants2012 : 5/19/2015 1:40 pm : link
In comment 12292898 Greg from LI said:
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And that was 20 years ago, so.....yes, absolutely.


Smith botched that b/c of the Devils size and the Legion of Doom.
RE: Honesly just completely fucking tired  
Giants2012 : 5/19/2015 1:42 pm : link
In comment 12292876 Kyle in NY said:
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of hearing about the Stralman/Boyle thing. It's done. Boyle is playing fine. Must we continue to beat this dead horse?


It would help if Sather stopped adding horses with one in the grave. San Jose hated him after years of love b/c his wheels fell off. Like an endless supply of dead horse, Sather just have him. Can he please stop?

. . . and Boyle's the oldest looking 38 yr old I've ever seen  
Giants2012 : 5/19/2015 1:46 pm : link
If this season continues and he doesn't shave some people might ask if Charles Manson was let out of prison.

RE: I still bitch about trading Zubov  
Deej : 5/19/2015 1:56 pm : link
In comment 12292898 Greg from LI said:
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And that was 20 years ago, so.....yes, absolutely.


I hated everything about that trade. I still fucking hate Luc for no reason.

Honorable mention to the Tyutin trade and the Lundmark/Savard trade as ones that broke my heart. And the Kloucek trade too. I loved him before he hurt his knee; never the same afterwards but I didnt totally get that at the time.
.....  
BrettNYG10 : 5/19/2015 2:00 pm : link
I liked the Tyutin trade (and I loved Tyutin) at the time because the team was lacking elite talent while they had a plethora of solid D prospects.

I was wrong.

The team has the opportunity to wipe away all these wrongs... McIlrath over Fowler and Tarasenko. Jessiman over Perry, Kesler, Getzlaf, Parise, etc. (Can you imagine losing to the Ducks when they have three fucking players picked in the first from 03?). Redden, Drury, etc.

Get it done, kids.
RE: I still bitch about trading Zubov  
Victor in CT : 5/19/2015 2:01 pm : link
In comment 12292898 Greg from LI said:
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And that was 20 years ago, so.....yes, absolutely.


Me too. You get Ulf Samuelsson to play WITH Zubov, not in stead of Zubov. Fucking stupid.
Tarasenko would've been a nice addition  
Anakim : 5/19/2015 2:01 pm : link
But whatever, I said I wouldn't speak about it again
I hate guys like Zherdev  
Deej : 5/19/2015 2:09 pm : link
fucking Russian danglers
....  
BrettNYG10 : 5/19/2015 2:09 pm : link
I mean, all teams have these glaring oversights. They're just more pronounced since we're Rangers fans.

I don't recall why Tarasenko slid.

And I've heard great things about McIlrath. I imagine he'd be our 7th defenseman next year - unless he's traded.
RE: ....  
Anakim : 5/19/2015 2:13 pm : link
In comment 12292968 BrettNYG10 said:
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I mean, all teams have these glaring oversights. They're just more pronounced since we're Rangers fans.

I don't recall why Tarasenko slid.

And I've heard great things about McIlrath. I imagine he'd be our 7th defenseman next year - unless he's traded.


It was the Russian transferability issue. Tarasenko was playing for his dad in Russia at the time and there were doubts as to whether or not he'd ever come to North America to play.
eh  
Giants2012 : 5/19/2015 2:13 pm : link
what good things about Dylan?
Wouldn't surprise me if Skjei beat him out in TC  
Anakim : 5/19/2015 2:14 pm : link
I also hope they bring back Hunwick
....  
BrettNYG10 : 5/19/2015 2:15 pm : link
I think McIlrath would make it over him just because we risk losing him if we send him down, IIRC.
RE: eh  
BrettNYG10 : 5/19/2015 2:16 pm : link
In comment 12292974 Giants2012 said:
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what good things about Dylan?


Apparently their best penalty killer, skating has improved, been much more disciplined. Beukeboom referenced his game turning around in December.
RE: ....  
Anakim : 5/19/2015 2:16 pm : link
In comment 12292981 BrettNYG10 said:
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I think McIlrath would make it over him just because we risk losing him if we send him down, IIRC.


Like the Kristo thing?
....  
BrettNYG10 : 5/19/2015 2:18 pm : link
Yeah, both McIlrath and Allen will have to go through waivers next year if sent down.
McIlrath  
Deej : 5/19/2015 2:19 pm : link
would have to pass thru waivers to get down to Hartford. From what I've read, I have to believe that there are teams that would claim him for a 6/7 role at worst. His problem is probably our absurd NHL D depth and the fact we were on a #1 seed run. He probably would have come up when Klein got hurt except we had no cap space for any promotions this year (bizarre).

Conor Allen is in the same boat -- NHL or waivers. And I think Kristo can declare himself a Group 6 UFA this summer (25 years old, >80 NHL games). I thought Sather made a mistake not moving some of these contracts at the deadline.
McIlraith I'm assuming  
MetsAreBack : 5/19/2015 2:19 pm : link
is the reason we went with Boyle over Stralman. Boyle seen as a bridge to get to McI.... but who the fuck knows, its not like we ever stand pat during offseasons for whatever reason.

The reason Stralman/Boyle and Brian Boyle/Glass come up *yet* again... is as it will always be for Rangers fans, an otherwise great season comes down to having to beat these guys and our former Captain to get the ultimate prize.

It would be very Rangers to have Callahan end our season in overtime or something.
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