Giants To Keep 4 TE's

could keep vs. to keep. it's far too early to suggest they are definitely keeping.

Jermaine Gresham.

True, but I like the idea of 4 TE's if the Giants could get younger, faster at the position.

wouldn't be surprised if Fells and Robinson are cut in favor of LaCosse and Tye. Fells is an aging veteran, and Robinson has done nothing. Both could be part of a large veteran purge at many positions. Reynolds, Mosley, Herman, Jenkins, and Kuhn are others I expect may also be cut.

If not, at what position do they think we would lose a player? I don't think we are keeping 4 TEs on the roster. With the 2 UDFA, we could keep both and place one on the Practice Squad, which makes more sense.

and one on the practice squad, so the title is a little confusing in that regard.

keeping 4 as 3 on the roster and 1 on the Practice Squad.

I didn't read the article, but the title was misleading. Keeping 4, with 1 on the PS makes perfect sense and is hardly newsworthy, especially at this date.

make the Final 53.
One may make and the other may sit on the practice squad.

and 11 on 11 drills. This time last year, I was told that Donnell's blocking had improved. That was indeed not the case when they broke from camp. LaCosse has the best shot of unseating Robinson since he was rumored as a guy they looking to draft late and has some real upside.

Is Tye really a TE? He is a hybrid player. Very intriguing.

I think it is a good shot that both those guys make the roster at the expense of Robinson and a defensive spot.

unless you believe everything you read on the Internet.

there is a lot of competition for the bottom of this roster. but with donnell and fells both free agents after this year I can definitely seeing them wanting to start grooming someone in case they can't afford donnell.

also do you start to work tye some at h-back too and possibly bump hynoski off the roster?

But what I like from the article is the Giants might become younger and faster at the position.

It is early but Tom Coughlin at least knows their names going into camp.

and never see the field after game 2 of the preseason and get put on IR in the hopes that they develop for next year.

Four long months filled with fascinating content like this article.

One of the 4 TEs will be on the Practice Squad which is pretty much what they've done most years. By the way, before we draw conclusions on these 2 new guys, can we see how they play in pads when someone is trying to knock them down?

Four long months filled with fascinating content like this article.

In comment 12290773 robbieballs2003 said:

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Jermaine Gresham.

I agree. If he's healthy, he's a great talent

And none of the investments they have made have panned out. Free agents Martellus Bennett and Brandon Myers are no longer with the team as are draft picks Kevin Boss (5th) and Travis Beckum (3rd). Adrian Robinson (4th) is proving to closer to the Ramses Barden of TEs than the JPP's. Fells is a journeyman.

This is a luxury position in the sense that unless some special can't pass up player comes along, we should not expect any significant investment in the position while issues exist in more critical areas. The same can be said for LB.

This means the bar is very low. The field is open and an undrafted guy who can do some things in terms of blocking and catching passes has as good a chance to not only make the 53, but to earn playing time on game day, as anyone else.

In comment 12290783 AcidTest said:

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wouldn't be surprised if Fells and Robinson are cut in favor of LaCosse and Tye. Fells is an aging veteran, and Robinson has done nothing. Both could be part of a large veteran purge at many positions. Reynolds, Mosley, Herman, Jenkins, and Kuhn are others I expect may also be cut.

Agreed with above, doubt very much the Giants keep 4, possibly 3. The question is can both Tye and LaCosse beat out Fells and Robinson which from what TC has been alluding to there is a remote possibility.

It would make sense to have four TE's on the roster if they used Hynoski as a Kuhn type role. Receiving and catching. But I don't see both guys making it on the main roster - more likely with one making it and the other on the PS. They also have to show ST help.

Will Tye can also play FB to spell or possibly replace Hynoski as a fullback who can run, block, and catch the ball with consistency.

LaCosse looked really good catching balls including that diving catch that was out of reach that he still brought in.

Tye definitely does not fit the mold of a traditional TE since he is only 6-2 but weighs around 260, and holy crap, he ran a 4.47 in the 40 at that weight and has fly paper hands and can block.

I think he makes the team...perhaps as a fullback giving the "Hynoceros" a challenge for his starting position.

Either way, I hope they finally cut Robinson. 5 receptions in 3 years just doesn't cut it for a TE who doesn't block. He's made about 800k per catch. He should consider himself fortunate to make that kind of coin at his age.

Don't see this being the case. They keep 3 TEs and maybe try to stash one on the practice squad. But I don't see them keeping 4 on the 53-man roster.

I'll even go out on a limb here and wonder if maybe they try to work out a trade with Denver, who lost their rookie TE to an ACL injury. Maybe the Giants ship one of their extra TEs to the Broncos for another 7th round draft pick.

In comment 12291060 Pat from Inside Football said:

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Don't see this being the case. They keep 3 TEs and maybe try to stash one on the practice squad. But I don't see them keeping 4 on the 53-man roster. I'll even go out on a limb here and wonder if maybe they try to work out a trade with Denver, who lost their rookie TE to an ACL injury. Maybe the Giants ship one of their extra TEs to the Broncos for another 7th round draft pick.

That's what the article implied. 3 on the 53 and one on PS

He got a one-year qualifying deal, with no guarantees beyond his $80K bonus. In terms of job security, he's a step down from guys like Herzlich, Jerry and Newhouse, who aren't exactly secure, and way below Cullen Jenkins, who has a $250K guarantee.

From a contractual standpoint, Fells is closer to Kevin Ogletree and Chris Ogbonnaya, who were already cut, or Dallas Reynolds. For $80K, Fells puts a floor under one of the backup TE positions. That's good value for insurance, but that's all.

If Adrien Robinson shows up in shape, stays healthy, and continues to improve his blocking, he'll be on the team. I know his stats are abysmal. So were Visanthe Shiancoe's.

Barring injury, it will be Henry Hynoski. You don't give a $500K guarantee to a fullback who's on the bubble.

The only way Will Tye - or any other TE - winds up at fullback is a Hedgecock/Pascoe scenario, where the starter gets hurt and a TE fills in.

wasn't invited to the Combine, but I guess it was during his pro day, he would have ranked 2nd among the TE's in measurables (I heard this on the Giants pod cast).

He has good size..hopefully this is a kid that fell between the cracks and we've found a prize.

A year on the practice squad, with his first real shot at playing time coming in 2016. If he makes the 53 this year, it will probably be because one of the three veteran TEs dropped off or got hurt. Unless there's a serious risk of a waiver claim, I'd rather not waste a year of rookie-contract cap control on what's likely to be a redshirt season for the UDFA TEs anyway.

"accounted for 106 yards on punt returns" in 2014. Would be pretty funny if he got a shot at that this summer.

Cunningham ever mentioned when we discuss TE. same thing when Donnell was an after thought spending time on the practice squad. Cunningham could have the same effect

In comment 12290955 mavric said:

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Will Tye can also play FB to spell or possibly replace Hynoski as a fullback who can run, block, and catch the ball with consistency.

I think you're really undervaluing Hynoski. Although his role has been trimmed in the new offense he's still one of the best at the spot in the league, dying position or not. I think it's foolish to expect an undrafted rookie TE to fill his shoes. He's a helluva blocker and has better hands than most people realize. He had 23 receptions his first two years in a limited role and IIRC didn't drop a pass. He's a natural with the ball in his hands, perhaps more so than any FB in the league. He didn't convert to FB until college and before then he was a prolific HB who ran for over 2,000 yards and 50 TDs as a HS senior (my wife did her student teaching at his school, Southern Columbia, a perennial PA powerhouse, and I got to see him play). Now I'm obviously not saying he can do that at this level, but that kind of natural talent doesn't just disappear.

In comment 12291060 Pat from Inside Football said:

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Don't see this being the case. They keep 3 TEs and maybe try to stash one on the practice squad. But I don't see them keeping 4 on the 53-man roster.

Damn. I was hoping for the occasional four tight end set.

active on game day (and support that with roster) and fewer linebackers.

I would not scrimp on defensive linesmen for tight ends either.

it has to be one of the hardest most brutal things in sports, makes sense to have extra DEs AND DTS active! and adds variety in featuring schemes.

We need him to. Period.

Cruz busted out in 2011 - out of nowhere really.

A. Robinson missed rookie OTA's due to college and was so raw his rookie year. We knew that when we drafted him but took a chance on his physical skills.

Year #2 he got hurt.
Year #3 he was healthy and flashed in camp, learning a new offense and learning the position.

In year #4, I predict he'll "bust out" and surprise. I would not doubt we go Donnell, Robinson and LaCosse with Tye on the practice squad.