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Odell Beckham: NFL players should get paid more

Danny Kanell : 5/18/2015 1:28 pm
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Odell Beckham: NFL players should get paid more

Giants receiver Odell Beckham thinks the $10.4 million he’s guaranteed over the first four years of his rookie contract is not enough.

“I think that we should make more money, personally,” Beckham told The Huffington Post when asked what he’d change about the NFL.

Beckham says NFL players should get paid more than baseball or basketball players because football is a more dangerous game.

“I understand that basketball plays 80-something games, baseball plays this many games, soccer plays that many games, but this is a sport where there’s more injuries. There’s more collisions. It’s not even a full-contact sport, I would call it a full-collision sport. You have people running who can run 20 miles per hour and they’re running downhill to hit you, and you’re running 18 miles per hour. That’s a car wreck. It’s just the career is shorter. There’s injuries that you have after you leave the game, brain injuries, whatever it is, nerve injuries.”


I don't see this was posted yet but if it was, i'll gladly delete.


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So does he hold out before year 3 or year 4?  
ZogZerg : 5/18/2015 3:10 pm : link
You know that it's going to happen.

pretty arrogant  
mdc1 : 5/18/2015 3:15 pm : link
for someone that has only played one season.
RE: pretty arrogant  
ron mexico : 5/18/2015 3:37 pm : link
In comment 12291197 mdc1 said:
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for someone that has only played one season.


How many seasons have you played?

The NFLPA is weak  
Bluenatic : 5/18/2015 3:44 pm : link
OBJ isn't wrong in principle. I therefore encourage him to become a player rep and become more active in the negotiations of the union representing his and all NFL players' interests. The NFLPA is a joke. The last CBA they signed was the worst in the history of pro sports.
I agree with OBJ and that Police, fire and teachers are underpaid.  
3putt : 5/18/2015 3:58 pm : link
Let's raise taxes and ticket prices.
RE: So should teachers, police officers and countless other professions  
MetsAreBack : 5/18/2015 4:08 pm : link
In comment 12290957 J Dot1 said:
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Love OBJ but I don't agree. Athletes and entertainers are obnoxiously overpaid.



No, they're not (teachers & police officers). When you account for the benefits and early retirement ages and all that... they are certainly not underpaid (by and large, course... there are probably exceptions and inner cities may be different).

And football players are not underpaid - thats ridiculous. It's just that baseball and basketball players are grossly overpaid. To this day i cannot understand why baseball players get paid so much - why are networks paying this sport so much money when very few actually watch on TV and why are people paying so much money for mediocre seats and lousy hot dogs?
No he's not right  
Joey in VA : 5/18/2015 4:10 pm : link
What you "deserve" is what you are worth. No one is forcing him to play for such a paltry sum, he can always walk away and go get a regular job and see how underpaid he is.
They  
Blueblooded808 : 5/18/2015 4:35 pm : link
Chose to play football.if they knew these things and didn't change to basketball or baseball because of what they knew about the nfl then that's they're own stupid choice live with it.i would say if they want increased salaries then make rookie contracts a minimum of 8 years.i hate players who bounce from team to team looking for the biggest contract they can get like Revis.more money for more fucking loyalty to the franchise that changed your whole life for the better...forever!love Odell but millionaires bitching about money falls on deaf ears when they're fans are sacrificing more important shit in life to show love and support for they're favorite team or player.just my opinion.
I know each player makes less  
chuckydee9 : 5/18/2015 4:49 pm : link
than their counterparts in other sports but think about this.. Overall the NFL players make a bigger portion of a bigger pie than any other major sport in US and they only really play for 16 weeks... You can't compare that to people that play 9 months out of the year. They give up right to have overall contract security by getting a bigger piece of the pie.
RE: No he's not right  
Greg from LI : 5/18/2015 4:50 pm : link
In comment 12291287 Joey in VA said:
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What you "deserve" is what you are worth.


But under a salary cap, that's distorted.
His reasoning sucks  
KWALL2 : 5/18/2015 4:53 pm : link
Doesn't matter if career is shorter or more violent then other sports. That's a ridiculous reason to be paid more than other sports.
People need to see the full picture w  
Tuckrule : 5/18/2015 4:59 pm : link
You play only 16 games. Your home and not on the road like other sports. Your time off is great. It's a health risk like any other job in the world. There's positives as well as negatives. Paid more? I don't think so, guaranteed pay is a different story.
I've decided  
Joey in VA : 5/18/2015 5:00 pm : link
That i don't like OBJ the person, another player I'll root for on the field but ignore off of it.
RE: They should not get more!!!!  
River Mike : 5/18/2015 5:04 pm : link
In comment 12291078 est1986 said:
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Baseball and basketball players should just get less, it's blows my mind how much baseball players make.


This^^
Dumb comment to make  
steve in ky : 5/18/2015 5:05 pm : link
when the average fan of his sport can't even relate to the league minimum on a personal level.

Negotiate hard for however much he can get but have enough sense to not publicly complain about it.
The players are right  
River Mike : 5/18/2015 5:06 pm : link
they should get more. Tell the NFL to shove it and go find another job!
OBJ  
Grey Pilgrim : 5/18/2015 5:16 pm : link
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RE: RE: They should not get more!!!!  
Wellington : 5/18/2015 5:22 pm : link
In comment 12291399 River Mike said:
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In comment 12291078 est1986 said:


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Baseball and basketball players should just get less, it's blows my mind how much baseball players make.



This^^


I think what you guys mean is that their contracts should not be guaranteed. Otherwise that's just weird comment.
ODB  
jawebb20 : 5/18/2015 5:22 pm : link
Been in the league for about 12 games and already showing his true colors.

When his rookie contract is up, will the Giants pony up the 15-20m/year to keep him?

He's a diva, and once again Bob Mcginn's draft preview was 1000% spot on about the guy.
Little early for  
TMS : 5/18/2015 5:46 pm : link
these kinds of comments, true or false. Honest but not too smart. Well he was not hired for his brains.
NFL NEWS FLASH!!!  
TC : 5/18/2015 5:57 pm : link
NFL player says, "Money and sex are good!"

YAWN!!!

(And completely ignore whatever question was asked to bait the player into such a response.)

Agree with his premise  
mrvax : 5/18/2015 6:00 pm : link
but I'd suggest avoiding any controversy while he gains popularity. There will (hopefully) come a time when his views on the NFL and it's pay will be heard and actually matter.

The average NFL career is short indeed. They are not underpaid by any means until you look at what people make in other sports or you examine what the filthy rich owners make.

As it is, very few people in their life will ever come near making what ODB was guaranteed for a few years work.
OBJ  
Dragon : 5/18/2015 8:09 pm : link
Forget the NFL salary focus on becoming the next MJ/OBJ of the sporting world. Become the second coming of the man and the myth the world is talking abut and wearing his clothing. Leave the amount of money players are making or not making to those with unfulfilled dreams.
ODB  
allstarjim : 5/19/2015 12:32 am : link
Has some weight with the season he had last year. On the other hand, you've played 12 games.

You talk about baseball, they have 25 guys on the active roster... Basketball, what... 12-14?

Football you pay 53 guys. And we all know (to ODB's point), the number of injuries means that there will be many more players than that pulling a check. The player payroll is enormous, and yes, so is the revenue.

But I have a little bit of a problem with a guy who is a rookie, making more money than most people will see in their lifetime, kind of coming off like he's complaining. By all means... if the 10.4 million is worth it, join the real world and sell insurance or something. No? I didn't think so... must be a pretty good deal.
Dragon  
allstarjim : 5/19/2015 12:42 am : link
I think you are on point here. Here's a guy who has captured the imagination of the country with his freakish numbers and "the catch". Just made the Madden cover and is arguably one of the most marketable athletes in professional sports outside of maybe Lebron and Peyton Manning right now.

He stands to make far, far more money in endorsements than he does in football. As long as you don't ruin your self-image by complaining about being a multi-millionaire for playing a sport.

Nothing turns the regular working people off faster than their superstar not being humble for their God-given talents, winning the genetic lottery, and complaining at all about not being filthy rich enough.

Shut your mouth and drink some Gatorade on TV and shit, and you will never want for anything.
I actually agree with Odell Beckham Jr  
David in LA : 5/19/2015 1:08 am : link
he might not be talking about the highest paid guys, but talking about the league minimum types.
RE: i know there's no cap in baseball  
David in LA : 5/19/2015 1:11 am : link
In comment 12291014 UConn4523 said:
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but I can't get over how much those guys make, and often for 10-20 year careers. You have journeyman now making $5 million a season which is what above average guys get at certain positions in the NFL (which may not even be full guaranteed).


The landscape of the economics of the NFL has changed since the new CBA. Guys aren't hanging around for a decade plus, and those second contracts are a lot harder to come by for the players.
RE: I've decided  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 5/19/2015 1:27 am : link
In comment 12291388 Joey in VA said:
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That i don't like OBJ the person, another player I'll root for on the field but ignore off of it.


LOL
On the endorsement note, I'm really surprised I'm not seeing him  
ron mexico : 5/19/2015 7:25 am : link
All Over my tv

I guess the blitz will start in the fall?
If this  
Jon in NYC : 5/19/2015 7:39 am : link
is his big issue he should have played soccer instead.
RE: It's all about available money  
Loluchka80 : 5/19/2015 8:39 am : link
In comment 12290975 Gman11 said:
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Baseball has 25 man rosters and they play 162 freakin' games.

Basketball has 15 man rosters and they play 82 games.

Football has 53 man rosters plus a practice squad plus all the guys on IR and only 16 games.

If baseball only had 16 games they wouldn't make much all.


this. so many more players to pay.
I don't think NFL players need to be paid more  
Bramton1 : 5/19/2015 9:42 am : link
What they need are guaranteed contracts. Still allow teams to drop players like they do now, and keep the cap the same way, but unless the player signs with another team, the original team still has to pay the player. Of course set out certain exemptions, such an non-football injuries (no need to continue paying a player who ended his career in a motorcycle crash).

While some players might be content to sit out and collect, I imagine most of them would prefer to be playing vs. not playing. Have the contract define playing in other professional football leagues as well for the NFL. No need to have a player jump to the CFL so they can can play, yet continue collecting a check from the NFL.

This way, if you can physically still play, you're probably not mooching on an old contract. But if you can't play because you sacrified your body on the football field, you're not left to dry.
His comment was too general  
njm : 5/19/2015 9:55 am : link
If he had pinpointed the length and compensation in rookie contracts he's have a more valid point.
I agree with him.....  
Doomster : 5/19/2015 10:32 am : link
Giants receiver Odell Beckham thinks the $10.4 million he’s guaranteed over the first four years of his rookie contract is not enough.

signed,
JaMarcus Russell
PFT's Mike Florio agrees  
Big Blue '56 : 5/19/2015 11:01 am : link
with OBJ and adds some readonable thoughts, imo
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Also  
Big Blue '56 : 5/19/2015 11:02 am : link
reasonable
for a guy who was supposedly  
PaulBlakeTSU : 5/19/2015 11:18 am : link
an all-world soccer player, I'm surprised he didn't decide to go that route. The best ones get paid more money and it is less dangerous than football.
There's more to being a great soccer player than being a great athlete  
Go Terps : 5/19/2015 11:22 am : link
I doubt very much that Beckham would make similar money paying soccer.
Go Terps  
PaulBlakeTSU : 5/19/2015 11:27 am : link
who knows. The odds of him becoming a world class soccer players are low, but that's also because we haven't seen his fully-developed soccer skills. If we saw him at 11 playing football, the odds of him being a world-class NFL player would be low also.

My point is that if he thinks football players are underpaid and face too high of a risk of injury, then perhaps he should have chosen a different athletic career path, especially when options were seemingly available.
RE: Go Terps  
ron mexico : 5/19/2015 11:32 am : link
In comment 12292623 PaulBlakeTSU said:
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who knows. The odds of him becoming a world class soccer players are low, but that's also because we haven't seen his fully-developed soccer skills. If we saw him at 11 playing football, the odds of him being a world-class NFL player would be low also.

My point is that if he thinks football players are underpaid and face too high of a risk of injury, then perhaps he should have chosen a different athletic career path, especially when options were seemingly available.


My take is that we wasn't really speaking for himself, but for the majority of the league playing for minimum un-guaranteed salary levels.

But maybe I'm giving him too much of the benefit of the doubt

Cry me a river with your fucking 10 million dollar salary  
Giants4246 : 5/19/2015 11:35 am : link
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RE: PFT's Mike Florio agrees  
Giants2012 : 5/19/2015 11:35 am : link
In comment 12292544 Big Blue '56 said:
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with OBJ and adds some readonable thoughts, imo Link - ( New Window )


Florio should stick to simple exercises like inaccurate mock drafts
Who deserves all the benjamins?  
George : 5/19/2015 11:51 am : link
The owners? Or the players?

The NFL rakes in, what, over $10 gajillion annually? Who should get all that dough? Robert Kraft? Jerry Jones? Robert Tisch?

It's not about the salaries the players get, because they could make a whole lot more and not make that much of a dent in the owners' take. The value of the players to the game is much, much more than the NFL permits, and thanks to the salary cap they are limited in the total amount of profit the league and the owners haul in. Perhaps it's due to the 53-man roster; but I wouldn't be upset to see the cap raised substantially to give the players a larger share of the NFL's profits.

And let's remember that only a few players ever get truly monster contracts, and then only after their 5-year rookie contracts end. The big bucks are reserved for the stars who avoid injury, and those guys are rare. It's not like every player retires a multi-millionaire. Few do.

Finally, the career of the average NFL player is something like 3 years. Let's say he makes $2 million over that period, but isn't necessarily prepared for a life of work outside of football; like some NFL former players, he might not make very much money once he's out of football.

Now think of a lawyer who makes, oh I dunno, $150,000 annually, but whose career spans 40 years. She'll make $6 million for that career. Why shouldn't the NFL provide for its players enough money to support them for a good long while after they've left the game?




I'll take $2 million  
PaulBlakeTSU : 5/19/2015 11:53 am : link
over the next three years than $6 million over the next 40.
Yeah. Not seeing all the outrage. Since when should  
kicker : 5/19/2015 12:00 pm : link
workers be content with what they are paid? I can guarantee 90% of people here would use the media if they thought it could help.

It seems like the dominant strategy here...
Imagine the NFL had  
mrvax : 5/19/2015 12:09 pm : link
an account where players and owners contributed to. Negotiate the rules. But----

Once a player retires from the NFL, they continue to receive $100,000 annually for life.

That's more than enough to keep a person from crime, IMO.
Beckham lol  
Giants2012 : 5/19/2015 12:18 pm : link
1. The players of today get more money than yesteryear b/c of the owners and the marketing. The game didn't become better and outside of heavier offensive linemen, the players certainly aren't bigger, better or faster, they're just marketed better.

2. The players negotiated this. The veteran players didn't want draftees making more money. The players complained that Sam Bradford received $50 million guaranteed before taking a snap and wanted the rules changed.
In addition to shattering all recieving records  
ron mexico : 5/19/2015 12:23 pm : link
OBJ is going to fix the mess that De Smith left behind

After that, who knows? World hunger?

Is there anything he can't do?

What a brat.  
Curtis in VA : 5/19/2015 2:03 pm : link
You're a millionaire. Even the lowest paid players are easily making 6 figures. Save your money instead of splurging on "bling." Most of the country can somehow manage to lead a decent life barely hitting the 100,000 mark. No reason he cant making ten million. Just shut up.

Most of these players are just mad at themselves for spending all the money they made and having nothing left when their career is over.

yea, whatever you say kid  
NYG4246 : 5/19/2015 2:35 pm : link
i wish these athletes understood that most people in this country will never sniff the money they make in a single season. I'd love to see them try to make a living as a sanitation worker, salesman, or waiter. Then complain about only making a few hundred grand per season ( Sept-Dec, January & February if theyre lucky). Real good to see theyre in touch with reality.

I know theyll be those of you who say "these guys put in hard work all year round and we could never do what they do" , very few of them could handle a 40 hour work week. Playing a game is not work. Ohh they have to work out, millions of people would love to be able to spend hours of their day in the gym, but they cant they have jobs, and families to support.
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