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NFT: Cardinals at Mets Game 1

ZGiants98 : 5/18/2015 6:04 pm
Curtis Granderson, RF

Eric Campbell, 3B

Lucas Duda, 1B

Michael Cuddyer, LF

Daniel Murphy, 2B

Wilmer Flores, SS

Kevin Plawecki, C

Matt Harvey, RHP

Juan Lagares, CF

And here is the Cardinals' lineup:

Kolten Wong, 2B

Matt Carpenter, 3B

Matt Holliday, LF

Jhonny Peralta, SS

Matt Adams, 1B

Yadier Molina, C

Jason Heyward, RF

Randal Grichuk, CF

John Lackey, RHP

Got to say, Im hoping for a split. The Cardinals might be the best team in baseball. They have fantastic pitching and let's face it, until TDA and Wright come back we won't have a legit lineup or a particularly deep one.

Things have been looking up though. Certain players are heating up and TDA and Wright performed baseball activities today! We are still in first! LGM!
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Can't really expect Familia  
steve in ky : 5/18/2015 9:28 pm : link
to go all season with never blowing a save but this one sure comes at a bad time. But he can't be perfect it happens.

That pick off play sure didn't help either.
fuck  
spike : 5/18/2015 9:28 pm : link
3-1 Tampa Bay Lightning. argh
Motherfucker....  
MyNameIsMyName : 5/18/2015 9:28 pm : link
Never realized Grandy's arm is that weak either
RE: Harvey  
PhiPsi125 : 5/18/2015 9:29 pm : link
In comment 12291842 spike said:
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probably wishes he finished this game himself.


Harvey probably wishes he was on another team.
Well lets see what they are made of now  
steve in ky : 5/18/2015 9:29 pm : link
Can they come right back the bottom of the inning and win it.
I'm shocked  
feelflows : 5/18/2015 9:29 pm : link
Collins didn't put defensive subs in.
RE: Can't really expect Familia  
PhiPsi125 : 5/18/2015 9:31 pm : link
In comment 12291846 steve in ky said:
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to go all season with never blowing a save but this one sure comes at a bad time. But he can't be perfect it happens.

That pick off play sure didn't help either.


I missed a couple of innings. Let me guess, the pick off play was a Flores error?
RE: I'm shocked  
spike : 5/18/2015 9:32 pm : link
In comment 12291857 feelflows said:
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Collins didn't put defensive subs in.


Collins never thinks of things like that
at this rate  
spike : 5/18/2015 9:32 pm : link
the Mets ain't scoring another run until tomorrow.

Allright Grandy  
ZGiants98 : 5/18/2015 9:33 pm : link
Come on. Win this fucker
Yep flores picked off 1st  
Giants4246 : 5/18/2015 9:33 pm : link
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RE: RE: Can't really expect Familia  
steve in ky : 5/18/2015 9:34 pm : link
In comment 12291865 PhiPsi125 said:
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In comment 12291846 steve in ky said:


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to go all season with never blowing a save but this one sure comes at a bad time. But he can't be perfect it happens.

That pick off play sure didn't help either.



I missed a couple of innings. Let me guess, the pick off play was a Flores error?


Give me a break.
People can't comment now on a player getting picked off at 1st base in a one run game if it happens to be Flroes? It is a game thread quit getting so upset if Flores is mentioned
Cant blame familia but you can blame the mets offense  
Giants4246 : 5/18/2015 9:34 pm : link
Scoring a run or two every night will not win games.
RE: Motherfucker....  
Giants2012 : 5/18/2015 9:36 pm : link
In comment 12291849 MyNameIsMyName said:
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Never realized Grandy's arm is that weak either


You didn't?
RE: Yep flores picked off 1st  
PhiPsi125 : 5/18/2015 9:36 pm : link
In comment 12291873 Giants4246 said:
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Yeah I figured it had to be Flores because God forbid we blame any of the other players that haven't done shit this game.
Come on duda  
Giants4246 : 5/18/2015 9:37 pm : link
End it here
RE: RE: Yep flores picked off 1st  
spike : 5/18/2015 9:38 pm : link
In comment 12291882 PhiPsi125 said:
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Yeah I figured it had to be Flores because God forbid we blame any of the other players that haven't done shit this game.


anohter player would just strike out and sit on the bench like Campbell just did
Duda  
spike : 5/18/2015 9:38 pm : link
is getting pitched around.
come on cuddy  
GMenLTS : 5/18/2015 9:39 pm : link
you can fucking do it
RE: RE: RE: Can't really expect Familia  
PhiPsi125 : 5/18/2015 9:39 pm : link
In comment 12291879 steve in ky said:
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In comment 12291846 steve in ky said:


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to go all season with never blowing a save but this one sure comes at a bad time. But he can't be perfect it happens.

That pick off play sure didn't help either.



I missed a couple of innings. Let me guess, the pick off play was a Flores error?



Give me a break.
People can't comment now on a player getting picked off at 1st base in a one run game if it happens to be Flroes? It is a game thread quit getting so upset if Flores is mentioned


Lol not upset. But it's exhausting watching the usual suspects beat on Flores game in and game out as if he's the only one out there. It's funny that I knew who you were talking about. I noticed you didn't say anything about his great defensive play earlier that probably saved runs.
RE: RE: Yep flores picked off 1st  
Giants4246 : 5/18/2015 9:41 pm : link
In comment 12291882 PhiPsi125 said:
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Yeah I figured it had to be Flores because God forbid we blame any of the other players that haven't done shit this game.


When i said our offense sucks i was blaming everybody.
Fuck you cuddyer  
Giants4246 : 5/18/2015 9:42 pm : link
You fucking suck
fuck.  
ZGiants98 : 5/18/2015 9:42 pm : link
This wasn't isn't going to end pretty Im afraid.
Cuddyer strikes out  
Mike in NY : 5/18/2015 9:42 pm : link
Because a DP was impossible
Cuddyer  
spike : 5/18/2015 9:43 pm : link
never fails to disappoint
Take out the saber stats for Cuddyer  
Giants2012 : 5/18/2015 9:44 pm : link
B/c he's really good

dWAR for Grandy allowing a ball to fall in front of him and use his noodle arm.

Awesome
It is a game thread  
steve in ky : 5/18/2015 9:44 pm : link
The guy got picked off of 1st base the bottom of the 8th in a game where they blow a save. I would have commented whomever did it. Your oversensitivity to any comment of something Flores does wrong it silly. I get it you love the kid and it bothers you to have to read something his did wrong.
So inconsistent, it's maddening  
PhiPsi125 : 5/18/2015 9:45 pm : link
I really really wish we had a competent manager that ran his team to be aggressive and manufacture runs. It's a difference maker in games like these. Collins is soooooooo boring and safe. That equals losses.

Sort of like how it's the difference in this game for the cardinals.
Im sorry  
ZGiants98 : 5/18/2015 9:47 pm : link
but two of our best offensive weapons are out, we all know some of our bats have been struggling, and we are playing the fucking Cardinals who might be the best team in baseball riddled with good pitching. No shit offense was going to be hard to come by.

Games over if Collins in his infinite wisdom has Cuddyer in RF and Granderson in LF like everyone on planet earth other than Collins thought we would see this year.

There's wins and losses effected by the "Terry factor" in action.
RE: It is a game thread  
PhiPsi125 : 5/18/2015 9:47 pm : link
In comment 12291907 steve in ky said:
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The guy got picked off of 1st base the bottom of the 8th in a game where they blow a save. I would have commented whomever did it. Your oversensitivity to any comment of something Flores does wrong it silly. I get it you love the kid and it bothers you to have to read something his did wrong.


Relax steve, it's really not a big deal. Sorry for being snarky. And I may be oversensitive but you, and others, are over the top with the Flores negativity. I almost feel obligated to protect the kid for some odd, irrational reason. I know he's not the greatest, but he gets way too much hate. Just my feeling.
Cheerleader  
Giants2012 : 5/18/2015 9:48 pm : link
Excuses all the time. Give it a rest
RE: Cheerleader  
Mike in NY : 5/18/2015 9:49 pm : link
In comment 12291923 Giants2012 said:
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Excuses all the time. Give it a rest


I didn't see Seth post :)
Collins needs to drop Cuddyer  
steve in ky : 5/18/2015 9:49 pm : link
out of the clean up spot.
Excuses about what asshole?  
ZGiants98 : 5/18/2015 9:49 pm : link
I said our manager sucks and directly contributes to losses?. What's the excuse?
RE: Im sorry  
PhiPsi125 : 5/18/2015 9:50 pm : link
In comment 12291912 ZGiants98 said:
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but two of our best offensive weapons are out, we all know some of our bats have been struggling, and we are playing the fucking Cardinals who might be the best team in baseball riddled with good pitching. No shit offense was going to be hard to come by.

Games over if Collins in his infinite wisdom has Cuddyer in RF and Granderson in LF like everyone on planet earth other than Collins thought we would see this year.

There's wins and losses effected by the "Terry factor" in action.


I don't disagree. But in all honesty, we should have been able to hit Lackey. He hasn't been that great and we were swinging good bats.

But, do you disagree that Collins lack of aggressiveness contributes to losses? I mean, it's more than just the hit and run. It's also a mentality. I've said this for years. I just like a more aggressive approach. Create your own luck.
Robles is getting better and better  
ZGiants98 : 5/18/2015 9:51 pm : link
I swear if I see the Torres clowns in the 7th and 8th again with Leathersich, Robles, and Goedell rotting in the pen Im going to scream.
RE: RE: Cheerleader  
PhiPsi125 : 5/18/2015 9:52 pm : link
In comment 12291927 Mike in NY said:
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Excuses all the time. Give it a rest



I didn't see Seth post :)


Hey, here's another one that surprisingly silent every time Flores makes a good play or good hit. Shocking.

You really really really like using the word cheerleader.

How did Thor's knee look yesterday?
RE: RE: Im sorry  
ZGiants98 : 5/18/2015 9:53 pm : link
In comment 12291940 PhiPsi125 said:
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but two of our best offensive weapons are out, we all know some of our bats have been struggling, and we are playing the fucking Cardinals who might be the best team in baseball riddled with good pitching. No shit offense was going to be hard to come by.

Games over if Collins in his infinite wisdom has Cuddyer in RF and Granderson in LF like everyone on planet earth other than Collins thought we would see this year.

There's wins and losses effected by the "Terry factor" in action.



I don't disagree. But in all honesty, we should have been able to hit Lackey. He hasn't been that great and we were swinging good bats.

But, do you disagree that Collins lack of aggressiveness contributes to losses? I mean, it's more than just the hit and run. It's also a mentality. I've said this for years. I just like a more aggressive approach. Create your own luck.


Yes I agree but you know I am a pretty big Sandy fan, and I believe that that's more of a front office call. Moneyball isn't fond of hit and run, ect. I don't know the real answer there but my gut tells me that one isn't JUST on Collins.
RE: RE: RE: Cheerleader  
ZGiants98 : 5/18/2015 9:54 pm : link
In comment 12291948 PhiPsi125 said:
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Excuses all the time. Give it a rest



I didn't see Seth post :)



Hey, here's another one that surprisingly silent every time Flores makes a good play or good hit. Shocking.

You really really really like using the word cheerleader.

How did Thor's knee look yesterday?


lmao.
RE: RE: It is a game thread  
steve in ky : 5/18/2015 9:54 pm : link
In comment 12291916 PhiPsi125 said:
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The guy got picked off of 1st base the bottom of the 8th in a game where they blow a save. I would have commented whomever did it. Your oversensitivity to any comment of something Flores does wrong it silly. I get it you love the kid and it bothers you to have to read something his did wrong.



Relax steve, it's really not a big deal. Sorry for being snarky. And I may be oversensitive but you, and others, are over the top with the Flores negativity. I almost feel obligated to protect the kid for some odd, irrational reason. I know he's not the greatest, but he gets way too much hate. Just my feeling.


Phil, it isn't a big deal but I do think you are over sensitive to anything Flores.

I hardly bashed him. I didn't even mention him by name. I only commented about the game in the moment. And as I explained before I don't hate him at all, I root for him as much as any other Met wearing the uniform.

{quote]Can't really expect Familia
steve in ky : 9:28 pm : link : reply

to go all season with never blowing a save but this one sure comes at a bad time. But he can't be perfect it happens.

That pick off play sure didn't help either.[/quote]
Rangers are on asshole  
Giants2012 : 5/18/2015 9:54 pm : link
Tell me how thors knee was with a runner on first. Do you even know to look? Of course not
RE: Rangers are on asshole  
PhiPsi125 : 5/18/2015 9:57 pm : link
In comment 12291960 Giants2012 said:
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Tell me how thors knee was with a runner on first. Do you even know to look? Of course not


lolwut??? okay chooch
Sooo tired of Collins and  
Chris L. : 5/18/2015 9:57 pm : link
his stupid bunts...constantly managing us out of innings!
Only Collins would have his  
ZGiants98 : 5/18/2015 9:58 pm : link
leading HR hitter bunt btw.
RE: RE: Rangers are on asshole  
Giants2012 : 5/18/2015 9:59 pm : link
In comment 12291974 PhiPsi125 said:
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Tell me how thors knee was with a runner on first. Do you even know to look? Of course not



lolwut??? okay chooch


Lol - yeah, you didn't look or understand what to look for skippy.
Never likely to happen but still would love to see Backman get a shot  
steve in ky : 5/18/2015 10:00 pm : link
managing this team.
RE: RE: RE: It is a game thread  
PhiPsi125 : 5/18/2015 10:00 pm : link
In comment 12291959 steve in ky said:
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The guy got picked off of 1st base the bottom of the 8th in a game where they blow a save. I would have commented whomever did it. Your oversensitivity to any comment of something Flores does wrong it silly. I get it you love the kid and it bothers you to have to read something his did wrong.



Relax steve, it's really not a big deal. Sorry for being snarky. And I may be oversensitive but you, and others, are over the top with the Flores negativity. I almost feel obligated to protect the kid for some odd, irrational reason. I know he's not the greatest, but he gets way too much hate. Just my feeling.



Phil, it isn't a big deal but I do think you are over sensitive to anything Flores.

I hardly bashed him. I didn't even mention him by name. I only commented about the game in the moment. And as I explained before I don't hate him at all, I root for him as much as any other Met wearing the uniform.

{quote]Can't really expect Familia
steve in ky : 9:28 pm : link : reply

to go all season with never blowing a save but this one sure comes at a bad time. But he can't be perfect it happens.

That pick off play sure didn't help either.
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That's fine steve. To each his own. I really don't think I'm oversensitive but I get it if that's your impression. The funny thing is that I would talk about him a lot less if people didn't irrationally kill Flores day in day out. I find that just as annoying as my "over sensitivity" probably seems to you. But that's fine. We know were each other stand.
kirk needs to be off this team  
PhiPsi125 : 5/18/2015 10:03 pm : link
like, now.
Oh yeah  
Giants2012 : 5/18/2015 10:04 pm : link
No sensitivity among a few Mets fans here.
do you honetly feel what I posted was  
steve in ky : 5/18/2015 10:04 pm : link
irrationally kill Flores though? Really?

How about all the times in Mets threads where if people said that they should move him from ss I have said that they shouldn't and since this was the plan entering the season they needed to give it much more time? Was that irrationally kill Flores as well?
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