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How good will Eli be this year?

OBJ4President : 5/18/2015 7:40 pm
Think he has a career year?
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17.4% Better  
Trainmaster : 5/18/2015 7:46 pm : link
than 2014.
Depends on the  
AnishPatel : 5/18/2015 7:46 pm : link
OL and IF Cruz can be productive and stay healthy. RR needs to have a strong contract year and not get fined or benched. If we can protect Eli and those things happen sure. There are a lot of "What Ifs" though. So for me it is a wait and see on the other factors.
Anish  
robbieballs2003 : 5/18/2015 8:04 pm : link
I agree 100% with you but, on the flip side, you have to factor Vereen in as well. He will help Eli get the ball out extremely quick which should help the OL and wear down the DL running sideline to sideline.
I think he's gonna kick ass.  
bceagle05 : 5/18/2015 8:04 pm : link
Year two in a quarterback-friendly system, better OL and Beckham. If Cruz is somewhat close to Cruz, look out.
This team has to be better across the board  
mattlawson : 5/18/2015 8:26 pm : link
On paper this is a very interesting team. Could be an exciting year. Then again could be snake bit
I predict he will be 80 better.  
GiantSteps : 5/18/2015 8:35 pm : link
Give or take 82.


Fitty too's the mike.
Eli should have his best statistical season  
George from PA : 5/18/2015 8:36 pm : link
McAdoo offense, Vereen, Mr. OBJ,RR was kicking it into gear, The TEs.....and hopefully Cruz!

OL will be good enough
Everything points towards a big season......  
Doomster : 5/18/2015 8:36 pm : link
Yes, Eli has a whole season of the new system under his belt....

OBj will be ready from game one...

Donnell should be better.....

Contract year for Randle.....

Cruz does not have to be rushed back......there are other receivers to take his place until he is ready.....

Vereen adds an element missing in this offense....

The OL should be better, not only in the passing game, but in the running game.....

The only thing holding this offense back, will be the time it takes this line to be a cohesive unit, possible key injuries, Eli improving his short passing game to Vereen, and Tom Coughlin....we saw Coughlin's influence on the offense with his so-called "balance" the offense must have last season....he must let McAdoo do his thing....go for the jugular, don't play down to the level of the other team....
He'll have an excellent year if  
CT Charlie : 5/18/2015 8:42 pm : link
OBJ and the O-line stay healthy. He'll have a tremendous year if VC returns to being a threat. As a team, though, we'll do best if we can pound the ball on the ground when we need to.
Eli  
Dragon : 5/18/2015 8:48 pm : link
Should be better as should all the offensive players if they can remain healthy. The real question is are they as a group NFL quality or miles away from being really good players. We have OBJ and some would cry Eli but is that enough to make any team afraid of the Giants.
Career year.  
NYG4246 : 5/18/2015 10:39 pm : link
I'd love to see the run game come back and put up 175 a game on the ground but i expect this offense to be more aerial. I think Eli balls out this year. 35+TDs.under 15 Ints. close to 5000 yds. but most importantly , SB MVP #3
I think some are sleeping on Eli this coming season  
djm : 5/18/2015 11:04 pm : link
Eli to beckham has a chance to be extraordinary. Like insane extraordinary...

If things break right I think Eli shatters every NYG passing record this season. He could dwarf his 2011 campaign. That's saying something because he lit up the NFL that year.

From a FF pov Eli is gonna be a bargain this season. Top QB 5 value and you could probably draft him very late. 5000 yards 35 tds this season. Maybe more.
And I don't think Eli needs a great return from Cruz either  
djm : 5/18/2015 11:09 pm : link
But it wouldn't hurt. I know a lot of fans including Eric are echoing the trendy line that Cruz is the key but I disagree I think the key is beckham. If he's healthy all year the offense will dominate. Cruz as a supporting actor here will be wonderful but he may be 8 games away and he could be a mess all year. Beckham is the key he's the best player on this team and one of the true elite players in the league. With all the other decent options like vereen and Randle and Donnell... Eli will go wild in 2015.

Needs another WR  
averagejoe : 5/18/2015 11:16 pm : link
Can't count on Randle and Cruz is a question mark.Not sure what kind of production we will get from TE and RB. The OL has holes too when Schwartz goes down again.

Eli was very good last year once he had a real weapon on the field. Wish Giants had another burner to draw attention away from OBJ.
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Klaatu : 5/18/2015 11:37 pm : link


Eli will be fine...
That is the big question every year!  
wgenesis123 : 5/19/2015 2:13 am : link
The answer usually comes in September, most likely against Philly. I have high hopes he can build on last year. We shall see.
Well ....  
Beer Man : 5/19/2015 3:59 am : link
A lot will have to do with if we can establish a good  
nicky43 : 5/19/2015 8:21 am : link
running game. Hopefully the OL upgrades will finally give us a running game again and if we are a big run threat then our passing game will greatly improve. Vareem is going to be a great safety valve for Eli so I'm hopeful he will have a great year.

If they can keep him upright  
David B. : 5/19/2015 9:09 am : link
(and the OL should be better) and his main weapons stay healthy, he could put up big numbers have his best season, statistically.

But that's a lot of IFs. And it doesn't automatically translate to wins.
12, 543 yards passing  
Lithium : 5/19/2015 10:29 am : link
97 touchdowns and 1 interception. Just a guess.
another year in the new system  
Gordo : 5/19/2015 10:32 am : link
better line (hopefully) better RBs, healthy cruz, and Mike Sullivan is back at QB Coach. everything is looking up.. he may have a career year!
obviously injuries aside  
Dave M : 5/19/2015 2:28 pm : link
But I think it will be his best statistical year as a pro. I'm feeling really good and the Offense right now.
RE: And I don't think Eli needs a great return from Cruz either  
BlueLou : 5/19/2015 2:56 pm : link
In comment 12292168 djm said:
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But it wouldn't hurt. I know a lot of fans including Eric are echoing the trendy line that Cruz is the key but I disagree I think the key is beckham. If he's healthy all year the offense will dominate. Cruz as a supporting actor here will be wonderful but he may be 8 games away and he could be a mess all year. Beckham is the key he's the best player on this team and one of the true elite players in the league. With all the other decent options like vereen and Randle and Donnell... Eli will go wild in 2015.


djm, lately we're of like mind on some things. Cruz coming back healthy would be huge but more like a bonus than anything else. I look for more of an effect from the drafting of Flowers, the return of a healthy Shwartz (may the shvartz be with us!) and Richburg being a significantly better OC than Walton was. On top of that, Vereen. I'm a Cal fan, and you gotta know Vereen was getting snaps and touches - quite a few really - even when Cal had Best as their main star. Vereen wasn't Best, not close really, but he's a very very good back who put up 3,500 yards from scrimmage and 35 TDs even with 2 years of his career (IIRC) at Cal overlapping Best's. And the vast majority of those yards were running the ball, not receiving which has been his NFL forte.

I won't be the least bit surprised if Vereen runs for over 1,000 yards this year, if Flowers is the real deal right away and Pugh and Richburg live up to their draft status and Shwartz is healthy. We might see a HUGE turnaround in our rushing game, and if opponents load the box - they're fooked by OBJ.
Re: Impact of Cruz return on Eli...  
Dan in the Springs : 5/19/2015 3:53 pm : link
I know there has been a lot of good debate on what to expect out of Cruz when he comes back. While that is certainly unclear, the question of how it will impact Eli comes down to this: Will his return be at the level that Parker played at? Assuming he gets the minutes and looks that Parker got, can he produce at the rate that Parker did?

Anything above that is gravy, since essentially he'll be competing for the minutes and attempts that Parker got last year. If he can improve on that then he will contribute to Eli's offensive improvement this year.
Even if Cruz isn't back all the way  
Dave M : 5/19/2015 4:20 pm : link
Eli will be fine. Vereen brings such a new dimension for the O and Parker/Harris as back up slot wr's are comforting and you'd expect Beckham Jr. To be great And Randle to be better.
If VC doesn't return at a level significantly better than Parker,  
BlueLou : 5/19/2015 4:31 pm : link
why would the team keep him at his current salary? I mean PR value and give him a chance, but at some point 80% VC - which is +/- Parker - isn't what they are paying for.
BlueLou...  
Dan in the Springs : 5/19/2015 7:00 pm : link
a great question, but ultimately a question for another thread.

In terms of Cruz's ability to improve Eli if he's only as good as Parker it's a wash, albeit an expensive one for the Giants.
I will.....  
Doomster : 5/19/2015 9:39 pm : link
I won't be the least bit surprised if Vereen runs for over 1,000 yards this year, if Flowers is the real deal right away and Pugh and Richburg live up to their draft status and Shwartz is healthy.


This line hasn't been together one season and it is going to turn a part time player into a 1000 yard rusher?

This line could possibly have 4 players playing different positions in the line this year.....it will be awhile before it gels......I expect Vereen to be huge in the passing game, not the running game.....
This is a huge year for Cruz......  
Doomster : 5/19/2015 9:57 pm : link
He knows that if that knee does not respond this season, he faces being cut next year, or possible salary reduction....

Cruz should be prudent in his approach to his return....he should not take one step on the practice field until he is absolutely sure of that knee......the smart thing may be to be PUP'd for the start of the season.....
Running game will help  
Pepe LePugh : 5/20/2015 10:30 am : link
open things up for Eli as well. Return of Schwartz and addition of Flowers adds 2 supposed maulers to OL. Defenses will have fewer down/distance opportunities to load up on the pass. Obviously effectiveness of play action will also improve if we can get ypc at least over 4 this year.
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