NFT: NBA Draft Lottery Tuesday, May 19, 2015 7:30pm

He's not a franchise player, but he'd be a really nice complementary piece if we were to sign some nice FAs. Perhaps not as 5th pick, but a trade where we take one of the Europeans and a team a few spots down takes him and the trade is announced after the round.

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In comment 12292931 BrettNYG10 said: Quote: . Can you give us the actual scenario how the Knicks got the 5th pick and i bet you, you cant I predict 2nd pick and still get Towns, how? Philly gets 1 and selects Russell...

If neither Philly, the Knicks, or the Wolves get a top 3 pick the Knicks pick fifth, IIRC.

Can the Knicks actually trade their pick on or before draft night if they are getting another pick in the same draft or do they have to actually draft a player in their draft slot and then trade him?

In comment 12292966 BrettNYG10 said:

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In comment 12292937 nygiants16 said: Quote: In comment 12292931 BrettNYG10 said: Quote: . Can you give us the actual scenario how the Knicks got the 5th pick and i bet you, you cant I predict 2nd pick and still get Towns, how? Philly gets 1 and selects Russell... If neither Philly, the Knicks, or the Wolves get a top 3 pick the Knicks pick fifth, IIRC.

That is incorrect...

Only way for the Knicks to get the 5th pick is if 2 teams outside of the top 3 jump into the top 3 AND Minnesota has to be the team bounced out of the top 3 along with the Knicks for the Knicks to get 5...

If 2 teams jump into the top 3 and Minnesota is still in the top 3 Knicks get 4...

Chad Ford ‏@chadfordinsider 3m3 minutes ago
Every year I play our Lottery Mock Draft one time for a lottery night prediction. Here was the result:

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That is incorrect... Only way for the Knicks to get the 5th pick is if 2 teams outside of the top 3 jump into the top 3 AND Minnesota has to be the team bounced out of the top 3 along with the Knicks for the Knicks to get 5...

So you are saying if neither Philly, the Knicks, or the Wolves get a top 3 pick the Knicks pick fifth?

In comment 12292993 GiantFilthy said:

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Quote: That is incorrect... Only way for the Knicks to get the 5th pick is if 2 teams outside of the top 3 jump into the top 3 AND Minnesota has to be the team bounced out of the top 3 along with the Knicks for the Knicks to get 5... So you are saying if neither Philly, the Knicks, or the Wolves get a top 3 pick the Knicks pick fifth?

No because if Philly is the team that drops out of the top 3 with the Knicks, the Knicks get 4

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If the Knicks do win the #1 pick mfsd : 1:02 pm : link : reply Can't wait to hear the media and non-Knick fans claim shenanigans by the NBA Just like they did in the Ewing draft:)

It's been 30 years and Knicks have been on the bottom for those 30. Everyone should hope the Knicks get it.

I am so confused as to how they perform this shit. It literally is more complicated than a NASA mission. Was so much easier 30 years ago when They just rolled a bunch of envelopes around in a bin and Stern picked them out...Of course knowing the the frozen one with the Knicks logo inside was to be given the #1 pick :-)

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In comment 12293046 Stu11 said:

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I am so confused as to how they perform this shit. It literally is more complicated than a NASA mission. Was so much easier 30 years ago when They just rolled a bunch of envelopes around in a bin and Stern picked them out...Of course knowing the the frozen one with the Knicks logo inside was to be given the #1 pick :-)

Its pretty simple...

The top 3 are done by a lottery drawing and each team has a specific number of ping pong balls, so basically each team has a percentage for them getting 1 2 or 3 and then 4 through 14 are done by record...

So basically the top 3 is drawn if its Minnesota new York and Philly in the top 3 in any order...4-14 is going to stay the same nothing will change...

Say Lakers jump into the top 3 and kick Philly out...

Philly would go to 4 then 5-14 would be the same...

Say Orlando jumps in and Knicks are kicked out

Knicks go to 4 Lakers go to 5 and 6-14 stays the same...

say Sacramento and Orlando jump in and Knicks and philly are kicked out

Knicks go to 4 Philly to 5 Lakers to 6 and 7-14 stays the same...

So when they are announcing the Picks and say it goes like this

14 OKC
13 Phoenix
12 Miami

That means 2 teams jumped into the top 3 because Miami drop 2 spots...

just realized it's possible Jamal Crawford could end up having a 20 year NBA career and at minimum should be good for 16 or so. WOW.

So as a Knick Fan we want all the picks to go as chalk all the way up. That means we are at 2 or 1 correct?

In comment 12293017 #10* said:

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Quote: If the Knicks do win the #1 pick mfsd : 1:02 pm : link : reply Can't wait to hear the media and non-Knick fans claim shenanigans by the NBA Just like they did in the Ewing draft:) It's been 30 years and Knicks have been on the bottom for those 30. Everyone should hope the Knicks get it.

It has been 30 years, but the Knicks have NOT been on the bottom for all 30.

In comment 12293075 Carl in CT said:

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So as a Knick Fan we want all the picks to go as chalk all the way up. That means we are at 2 or 1 correct?

If 4-14 stays the same...that means Knicks are at least picking 3....

The #1 pick

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be rooting for the Lakers to fall to 6 and lose their pick...IF that is the case 2 teams jumped into the lottery...

In comment 12293086 GiantFilthy said:

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Bwahaha. The filthy household will definitely be a happy one

Vin won't make it home safely tonight...

In comment 12293102 EricNY33 said:

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Vin won't make it home safely tonight...

That's not nice :(

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Thanks for clarifying Carl in CT : 2:57 pm : link : reply So as a Knick Fan we want all the picks to go as chalk all the way up. That means we are at 2 or 1 correct?

Correct. And whichever of those top two picks the Knicks don't get the NBA just gives to Cleveland.

The Knicks abilities to trade the pick. Can they do it in draft night? Do they have to pick a player before trading?

In comment 12293124 GMEN46 said:

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The Knicks abilities to trade the pick. Can they do it in draft night? Do they have to pick a player before trading?

They would have to pick a player.

I can't believe some miracle will eclipse James Dolan and this black cloud.

I hope I'm wrong.

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cool tool to play around with and see what the different odds are for different scenarios, including compound events (involving multiple teams).

Here is the Reddit post that describes what it can do with a link to probability charts.
http://www.lotterybucket.com/ - ( New Window )

The NBA just seems more fun when they're both in contention

And choose Russell

In comment 12293164 Vin R said:

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The NBA just seems more fun when they're both in contention

I think that is almost a sure thing. The fix is in.

Why haven't they won or even moved up in the last 30 years?

That is why a small market team like the cavs has randomly won it many times

He Spurs won the Duncan lottery

The nets got shat on missing John wall- and so on and so on

The most interesting thing will be if the sixers win given towns is the top guy on most boards- there could be some interesting moves

8:30.

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is that 7:30

The lottery is at 8:30

4 teams have already called the knicks asking if they would be interested in a trade....teams outside the lottery

Was just going to ask when this actually starts.

Are they just giving the lottery slots for the bottom teams tonight and the rest of league another night? Does the draft actually happen tonight for all teams?

Damn, the f'n Knicks still have the power to pull me in after year's of Dolan's shit. I hate the bastard but would love to have a team worth rooting for again.

Pick in Chad Fords simulator. I did it over 100 times & they never picked higher then 4th.

In comment 12293426 Big Rick in FL said:

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Pick in Chad Fords simulator. I did it over 100 times & they never picked higher then 4th.

Did you really do it 100 times?

Seeing as they have about a 20% chance, that's damn near impossible that they didnt get once in 100 times.

Hope for the best.

If anyone here really believes we are gonna get the #1 pick after all our years of misery, then i have a bridge to sell you tomorrow... i would be shocked if we dont end up with #5.. Just saying.. you know how unlucky the Knicks have been.. just par for the course!!!!!!

end up 3rd just so we can stress over it for the next few weeks.

It's like a Rube Goldberg machine.

Knicks slipped past #5 and get the 14th.

Ugh

like it was yesterday when they got their last big pick in Ewing. The Knicks really deserve a break and I just hope they don't sink below #2. That would be just hard to have to swallow.

shows of any kind are completely worthless. Just do the fucking lottery