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NFT: Mets Minors 5/19/2015

DanMetroMan : 5/19/2015 9:30 am
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Brandon Nimmo has been diagnosed with a sprained ACL in his left knee. Can resume baseball activity when pain free. #mets


Non-prospect/minor league depth

NEW YORK -- The New York Mets have signed Cuban catcher Lednier Ricardo, who was an international free agent.

Ricardo, 27, participated on the Cuban national team in 2012 and '13. He had been holding showcases for teams since last summer.

He played in the Cuban National Series with Camaguey and Cienfuegos from 2007 through '12. In 1,190 at-bats, he batted .256 with with 26 homers and 136 RBIs.



AAA-
Ceciliani 1-4, 3b, 2K (called up after the game)
Rivera 1-4, K
Reynolds 0-4, 2 k's (struggling pretty bad right now)
Muno 0-2, BB
Gorski 5 innings 5 hits 5 runs 2 walks 4 k's
Thornton 1 perfect 1 k


A+
Stuart 0-4 1 BB, 2 k's (he's been truly horrendous)
Conforto 1-3, K
Smith 2-4, 2b
Rosario 0-4, K
Urena 2-4
Gsellman 7 innings 6 hits 1 run 2 walks 5 k's (likely headed to AA soon, maybe a swap with struggling Gant?)
Morris 1 innings 0 hits 0 runs 2 walks 2 k's


A
Becerra 1-4, K
Garcia 1-2, 2 bb
Roseboom 1 inning 0 hits 0 runs 1 walk 2 k's

How did Tyler Moore get such a good bonus? Good lord has he been horrible. 4/50 with 18 k's

Lupo 38 k's in 87 ab's lol

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Flores  
DanMetroMan : 5/19/2015 3:04 pm : link
hasn't been great at SS but Reynolds isn't a defensive dynamo himself. The offense is a MAJOR issue, now we are going to dump one of the few "constants"(slow start aside)? The offense could potentially be awful with Murphy replaced by unproven Reynolds. It's not as if they have a bunch of internal offensive options or even places to upgrade offensively.
And totally hear the point about that move hurting the team now  
Eric on Li : 5/19/2015 3:04 pm : link
But if I could get something good for Murphy off this hot streak (SF maybe?) i'd be ok with it. I would certainly not change things up for no reason and all of this would only come into play when Wright is fully ready post-rehab.
You also keep leaving Herrera  
ZGiants98 : 5/19/2015 3:06 pm : link
out of the equation who is arguably our best position prospect in a loaded system. He'll be back soon and back in the mix. Reynolds isn't on Herrera's level, especially with him in the midst of a brutal cold streak right now and it doesn't make sense to move Flores to 2nd with Herrera the air apparent.

Reynolds role in my opinion was to offer nice depth in case Flores failed in 2015 and Flores isn't failing. Where we go now is maybe a nice utility bench player towards the end of 2015 but he needs to be playing every day at this point.
Again  
DanMetroMan : 5/19/2015 3:06 pm : link
while I like Reynolds he's having a terrible month (bad enough where his overall numbers rank him outside the top 45 in both wRC+ and wOBA outside of a hope and a prayer why would we expect him to come up and succeed right now? Murphy .773 OPS last 28 days.
Also Rosenthal had reported that over the weekend  
Eric on Li : 5/19/2015 3:07 pm : link
a day after Flores had made the error in the Cubs game and then posted another in the opening loss to Milwaukee. Obviously things are looking up since then.
RE: And totally hear the point about that move hurting the team now  
DanMetroMan : 5/19/2015 3:08 pm : link
In comment 12293091 Eric on Li said:
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But if I could get something good for Murphy off this hot streak (SF maybe?) i'd be ok with it. I would certainly not change things up for no reason and all of this would only come into play when Wright is fully ready post-rehab.


Well that's a different argument. If the return were good enough to take a very real chance they get WORSE in the immediate future than so be it but this sounds more like they hope Reynolds/Flores are better defensively than Flores/Murphy and to me the upgrade simply isn't enough to dump an offensive constant. There was tepid interest in Murphy all off-season I find it hard to believe suddenly on 5/19 teams have changed their tune due to a .773 OPS month.
RE: You also keep leaving Herrera  
Eric on Li : 5/19/2015 3:09 pm : link
In comment 12293093 ZGiants98 said:
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out of the equation who is arguably our best position prospect in a loaded system. He'll be back soon and back in the mix. Reynolds isn't on Herrera's level, especially with him in the midst of a brutal cold streak right now and it doesn't make sense to move Flores to 2nd with Herrera the air apparent.

Reynolds role in my opinion was to offer nice depth in case Flores failed in 2015 and Flores isn't failing. Where we go now is maybe a nice utility bench player towards the end of 2015 but he needs to be playing every day at this point.


I'm not leaving Herrera out, but unlike Reynolds he has show that he's not ready to make an impact right now (not a huge shock considering his age). Herrera if anything makes it easier to deal Murphy because he's additional depth potentially behind Flores.
RE: RE: And totally hear the point about that move hurting the team now  
Eric on Li : 5/19/2015 3:11 pm : link
In comment 12293098 DanMetroMan said:
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In comment 12293091 Eric on Li said:


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But if I could get something good for Murphy off this hot streak (SF maybe?) i'd be ok with it. I would certainly not change things up for no reason and all of this would only come into play when Wright is fully ready post-rehab.



Well that's a different argument. If the return were good enough to take a very real chance they get WORSE in the immediate future than so be it but this sounds more like they hope Reynolds/Flores are better defensively than Flores/Murphy and to me the upgrade simply isn't enough to dump an offensive constant. There was tepid interest in Murphy all off-season I find it hard to believe suddenly on 5/19 teams have changed their tune due to a .773 OPS month.


I agree with that logic but that was part of Rosenthal's report (Mets dealing Murphy).
I dont know  
ZGiants98 : 5/19/2015 3:13 pm : link
Herrera looked like he was coming around and he looked better than expected defensively. I don't think he's a year away. He has nothing left to prove in AAA anyway. If he comes back healthy in a month and we really want to trade Murphy, it would be to get Herrera back in the lineup. Id prefer him to keep getting atbats and learning at the major league level at this point anyway especially if he is holding his own defensively.

Not every top prospect comes up and busts out offensively in their first week or two. He needs time to adjust.
Neise / Gee + Murphy + Prospect to LA  
debo_GIANTS : 5/19/2015 3:14 pm : link
for Van Slyke + call me JT
If you extrapolate Herrera's first 28 games  
ZGiants98 : 5/19/2015 3:17 pm : link
out in the big leagues he's still on pace for 23.12 homeruns in a season which is amazing considering his age.
Is the spelling of Niese  
Giants2012 : 5/19/2015 3:17 pm : link
incorrectly a theme or something?
.  
DanMetroMan : 5/19/2015 3:19 pm : link
The Mets hope Travis d’Arnaud will be able to be activated from the disabled list this weekend against the Pirates, a team source told Daily News reporter Kristie Ackert (May 19, 1:54 am).

D’Arnaud swung a bat Monday in Port St. Lucie, according to Newsday reporter Marc Carig (May 18, 4:20 pm).
RE: If you extrapolate Herrera's first 28 games  
Giants2012 : 5/19/2015 3:19 pm : link
In comment 12293116 ZGiants98 said:
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out in the big leagues he's still on pace for 23.12 homeruns in a season which is amazing considering his age.


Do it over a career and he's in the HOF too.

GOAT perhaps.
Kristie Ackert  
ZGiants98 : 5/19/2015 3:21 pm : link
reported that an inside source has TDA coming back as soon as this weekend against the Pirates. That would be fucking awesome.
Agreed - Vegas is making it hard to get a read on AAA hitters  
Eric on Li : 5/19/2015 3:21 pm : link
Again my position on this whole scenario is simply this:

1. I believe in Flores bat, but not in his glove at SS long term.
2. The team needs to get better defensively up the middle to compete.
3. They're moving on from Murphy at some point in the near future no matter what, might as well give Flores' bat a chance at a position he has better athleticism to handle (and less spotlight).

Flores leads the team in HRs and has shown some clutch qualities. There's no question the pressure at SS has come to the plate with him at times. Get something decent for Murphy, give Flores a couple months at 2B and lets see if he can settle in as a 20 HR guy there.

Whether they bring up Reynolds or trade for a SS, I think that's a move they will eventually need to make regardless of how they handle Murphy.
My bad Dan.  
ZGiants98 : 5/19/2015 3:22 pm : link
Beat me.
Really pumped to get TdA back  
Eric on Li : 5/19/2015 3:23 pm : link
he has the chance to make a big difference in this lineup.
3 runs on 4 hits  
Metnut : 5/19/2015 3:24 pm : link
in 1.1 IP for Parnell today. 2Ks at least.
RE: Agreed - Vegas is making it hard to get a read on AAA hitters  
Giants2012 : 5/19/2015 3:26 pm : link
In comment 12293128 Eric on Li said:
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Again my position on this whole scenario is simply this:

1. I believe in Flores bat, but not in his glove at SS long term.
2. The team needs to get better defensively up the middle to compete.


Outside of a few, everybody in the fan base agrees with you.
RE: Agreed - Vegas is making it hard to get a read on AAA hitters  
ZGiants98 : 5/19/2015 3:27 pm : link
In comment 12293128 Eric on Li said:
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Again my position on this whole scenario is simply this:

1. I believe in Flores bat, but not in his glove at SS long term.
2. The team needs to get better defensively up the middle to compete.
3. They're moving on from Murphy at some point in the near future no matter what, might as well give Flores' bat a chance at a position he has better athleticism to handle (and less spotlight).

Flores leads the team in HRs and has shown some clutch qualities. There's no question the pressure at SS has come to the plate with him at times. Get something decent for Murphy, give Flores a couple months at 2B and lets see if he can settle in as a 20 HR guy there.

Whether they bring up Reynolds or trade for a SS, I think that's a move they will eventually need to make regardless of how they handle Murphy.


There's nothing wrong with this belief. It is not one many of use here share. Like last year, the defensive metrics are actually proving Flores CAN play SS. The errors have been a big issue and obviously he can't continue on that pace(he won't) but mental issues aside he's actually been pretty good. If he's going to rush throws, he can do just as much damage mentally at 2nd as well IMO. I think as the season continues on he's going to start getting more comfortable and with Wright and TDA back in the lineup I think he'll start getting better pitches to hit as well. I think the worst of the mental gaffes are behind him but we'll see. I'd like to ride this out a little further though.
Sadly  
DanMetroMan : 5/19/2015 3:28 pm : link
I think Parnell is donezo.
RE: Really pumped to get TdA back  
ZGiants98 : 5/19/2015 3:29 pm : link
In comment 12293132 Eric on Li said:
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he has the chance to make a big difference in this lineup.


Sadly its mostly because Plawecki has provided so little. Its likely a MASSIVE upgrade right now. That said Plawecki needs to go back down and work on some things and I think he'll be back at some point, but we need TDA right now in the worst way.
Flores lol  
Giants2012 : 5/19/2015 3:31 pm : link
The mental excuses are just comical. Disregard the obvious when watching the kid, recite saber stats and then throw in something nobody can see and call it mental. lol - good lord.
Current Mets (regulars) leaders  
Metnut : 5/19/2015 3:32 pm : link
in fangraphs WAR:

Harvey 1.6
Duda 1.3
Flores 0.8
Colon 0.8
D'Arnaud 0.6
DeGrom 0.6
Granderson 0.4
Lagares 0.4
I still think its stupid  
ZGiants98 : 5/19/2015 3:43 pm : link
to bat a hitter 9th but if it makes sense for one player on this team its Lagares. Unfortunately, Collins is just playing copy cat and has now idea what he's doing as evidenced by putting your leading homerun hitter who has a low OBP there already this season in Flores.

That said the theory behind having a hitter bat 9th is to have a "leadoff lite" version there. Somebody without the OBP skills but that offers some leadoff qualities so if he gets on base the 1, 2, 3, 4 guys have more chances to drive him in.



Getting excited about what a Wright/TDA  
ZGiants98 : 5/19/2015 3:46 pm : link
lineup looks like currently.

1.) Granderson
2.) TDA
3.) Wright
4.) Duda
5.) Flores
6.) Murphy
7.) Cuddyer

9.) Lagares

?
That lineup  
Metnut : 5/19/2015 3:55 pm : link
is fine but I'd rather flip Murphy and TDA.
d'Arnaud's  
sshin05 : 5/19/2015 4:11 pm : link
fwar is actually 0.5 but that's crazy for someone who only played 11 games! I would bat him 4th or 2nd.

granderson
Tda
duda
Wright
murphy/flores
flores/murphy
cuddy
pitcher
lagares
RE: Sadly  
Shecky : 5/19/2015 4:14 pm : link
In comment 12293141 DanMetroMan said:
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I think Parnell is donezo.


Looks like someone might win their bet...
Im surprised that Hansel Robles throws this hard  
Headhunter : 5/19/2015 4:25 pm : link
I like him a lot, what are his secondary pitches? I don't recall and are they any good?
Looking at the mets roster  
sshin05 : 5/19/2015 4:26 pm : link
they have 7 rookies or first year players on a first place team. Not to mention Muno and Herrera who played a bit. Most of them are pitchers but they do have a pretty young core.
RE: Im surprised that Hansel Robles throws this hard  
DanMetroMan : 5/19/2015 4:29 pm : link
In comment 12293215 Headhunter said:
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I like him a lot, what are his secondary pitches? I don't recall and are they any good?


Once they moved him to the pen last year his FB velocity spiked. He's always been seen as a reliever based on his delivery/build. Throws a CU and a slider, scouts prefer the CU to the "average-ish" slider.
RE: RE: Sadly  
ZGiants98 : 5/19/2015 4:31 pm : link
In comment 12293210 Shecky said:
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In comment 12293141 DanMetroMan said:


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I think Parnell is donezo.



Looks like someone might win their bet...


Lol. There was no bet.
Robles seems  
ZGiants98 : 5/19/2015 4:33 pm : link
Be throwing his slider for strikes and it seems to be getting better.
RE: Robles seems  
DanMetroMan : 5/19/2015 4:35 pm : link
In comment 12293230 ZGiants98 said:
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Be throwing his slider for strikes and it seems to be getting better.


Let's hope that continues. RH relievers generally need a good breaking ball because 94-98 is sexy but every MLB hitter can time that if they know it's coming. Right now it's "who is this guy?". I like Robles arm, I was pro-adding Robles to the 40 man in the off-season.
Akeem Morris  
Headhunter : 5/19/2015 4:40 pm : link
has to be bumped up a level. I saw him this spring and liked what I saw but that was ST. I think he might be for real, seems to have been around forever, but he is only 22
Akeel  
pjcas18 : 5/19/2015 4:48 pm : link
.

DMM and I were discussing him yesterday, it's strange.
RE: Akeel  
DanMetroMan : 5/19/2015 5:06 pm : link
In comment 12293245 pjcas18 said:
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DMM and I were discussing him yesterday, it's strange.


Gotta believe it happens somewhat soon. They are probably going to need pen help at some point. Might as well test him in AA. Maybe he's not the answer but let's see how he does vs. more experienced hitters. Robles arrived pretty quickly himself once moving to the pen.
Ready to see more of Leathersich  
ZGiants98 : 5/19/2015 5:10 pm : link
He was outstanding in the PCL and Viola says he's finally figured it out. I want to see more.
.  
arcarsenal : 5/19/2015 5:14 pm : link
Has Leathersitch been better against LHB recently or does he still have reverse splits? His numbers look great overall so I guess he must be pitching pretty well to both, but..
Sandy  
DanMetroMan : 5/19/2015 5:16 pm : link
apparently says TDA will NOT be back this weekend but hopefully 10-14 days thanks to stamina issues.
RE: .  
DanMetroMan : 5/19/2015 5:19 pm : link
In comment 12293259 arcarsenal said:
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Has Leathersitch been better against LHB recently or does he still have reverse splits? His numbers look great overall so I guess he must be pitching pretty well to both, but..


He's only faced 15 lefties at AAA so far this year. They are 3/15 with 7 k's

On the season AAA/MLB

18 ab's vs. lefties they are hitting .300 1 walk 7 k's.

Sample size is FAR too small to judge either way though.
Sorry  
DanMetroMan : 5/19/2015 5:20 pm : link
not .300, .278
ha  
sshin05 : 5/19/2015 5:26 pm : link
duane below just pitched a CG shut out 4 hitter for the 51's.
.  
DanMetroMan : 5/19/2015 5:27 pm : link
Marc Carig
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@MarcCarig

Translation: bank of two weeks, which is pretty obvious given rehab timelines and where TDA is on that spectrum.
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Marc Carig
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@MarcCarig

Alderson also mentioned to a few reporters yesterday that Mets have a longer rehab protocol for catchers. Today, said 7-10 days at best.
RE: ha  
DanMetroMan : 5/19/2015 5:28 pm : link
In comment 12293267 sshin05 said:
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duane below just pitched a CG shut out 4 hitter for the 51's.


I saw that. I was tempted to note on tomorrows minor league thread "likely the only time I ever mention Duane BeloW" lol
I don't understand baseball players sometime  
debo_GIANTS : 5/19/2015 5:41 pm : link
TDA needs two weeks to get his stamina up?

He had a broken pinky, why couldn't he run on a treadmill for the past 3 weeks to maintain his conditioning. SMH
RE: RE: .  
ZGiants98 : 5/19/2015 5:54 pm : link
In comment 12293262 DanMetroMan said:
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In comment 12293259 arcarsenal said:


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Has Leathersitch been better against LHB recently or does he still have reverse splits? His numbers look great overall so I guess he must be pitching pretty well to both, but..



He's only faced 15 lefties at AAA so far this year. They are 3/15 with 7 k's

On the season AAA/MLB

18 ab's vs. lefties they are hitting .300 1 walk 7 k's.

Sample size is FAR too small to judge either way though.


His issue with me has always been his control. He's seems to have gotten a hold of that which will be a quantum leap forward if true.
it seems that  
Bleedin Blue : 5/19/2015 7:34 pm : link
Gorski has reached his peak! He does well, high K ratio up to DBL A then gets smacked around in Vegas. He tends to give up the long ball in triple A. He "may" one day get a call up as a reliever, but I don't think anytime soon. JMHO!
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