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NFT: Mets Minors 5/19/2015

DanMetroMan : 5/19/2015 9:30 am
@AdamRubinESPN
Brandon Nimmo has been diagnosed with a sprained ACL in his left knee. Can resume baseball activity when pain free. #mets


Non-prospect/minor league depth

NEW YORK -- The New York Mets have signed Cuban catcher Lednier Ricardo, who was an international free agent.

Ricardo, 27, participated on the Cuban national team in 2012 and '13. He had been holding showcases for teams since last summer.

He played in the Cuban National Series with Camaguey and Cienfuegos from 2007 through '12. In 1,190 at-bats, he batted .256 with with 26 homers and 136 RBIs.



AAA-
Ceciliani 1-4, 3b, 2K (called up after the game)
Rivera 1-4, K
Reynolds 0-4, 2 k's (struggling pretty bad right now)
Muno 0-2, BB
Gorski 5 innings 5 hits 5 runs 2 walks 4 k's
Thornton 1 perfect 1 k


A+
Stuart 0-4 1 BB, 2 k's (he's been truly horrendous)
Conforto 1-3, K
Smith 2-4, 2b
Rosario 0-4, K
Urena 2-4
Gsellman 7 innings 6 hits 1 run 2 walks 5 k's (likely headed to AA soon, maybe a swap with struggling Gant?)
Morris 1 innings 0 hits 0 runs 2 walks 2 k's


A
Becerra 1-4, K
Garcia 1-2, 2 bb
Roseboom 1 inning 0 hits 0 runs 1 walk 2 k's

How did Tyler Moore get such a good bonus? Good lord has he been horrible. 4/50 with 18 k's

Lupo 38 k's in 87 ab's lol

perfect for all the complaining  
pjcas18 : 5/19/2015 9:37 am : link
(it was really just one person) about the Red Sox being proactive signing a 28 year old 2b to play in A ball, the mets signed a 27-year old catcher to play in A ball (or wherever).

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arcarsenal : 5/19/2015 9:39 am : link
LOL, I was going to say.. hopefully this placates the outraged party of 1 who just couldn't believe the Mets missed out on a 28 year old project A-ball player.

Now we have our own! AND he's a year younger! Woooooo
Really  
DanMetroMan : 5/19/2015 9:39 am : link
looking forward to reading this. RAVE reviews so far.
Link - ( New Window )
Given  
DanMetroMan : 5/19/2015 9:41 am : link
the level of pitching in Cuba, that is an ATROCIOUS batting line. He's minor league depth at catcher which is fine.
Crosby and company lol  
Giants2012 : 5/19/2015 9:47 am : link
missing more points the Natural does at SS.

Shave
Nats  
DanMetroMan : 5/19/2015 9:52 am : link
call up their Wilmer, Wilmer Difo
RE: Really  
Shecky : 5/19/2015 10:21 am : link
In comment 12292353 DanMetroMan said:
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looking forward to reading this. RAVE reviews so far. Link - ( New Window )


Thanks Dan - didn't k is its available. Should be a good read. Pirates franchise has quietly done things so well and unique over the past several years. Could be the modern day blueprint the way the Indians once were and Rays more recently.
How good is Ceciliani compared to Kirk -  
Ira : 5/19/2015 10:23 am : link
offensively and defensively?
RE: How good is Ceciliani compared to Kirk -  
DanMetroMan : 5/19/2015 10:29 am : link
In comment 12292452 Ira said:
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offensively and defensively?


Worse defensively, offensively remains to be seen (Vegas is basically worthless in judging bats). DC did lead the NYPENN in hitting
I read Wally  
CMicks3110 : 5/19/2015 11:02 am : link
said that Cecliani was in Lagares' league defensively. Kirk is a good defensive outfielder, but nothing really special.
RE: I read Wally  
DanMetroMan : 5/19/2015 11:03 am : link
In comment 12292546 CMicks3110 said:
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said that Cecliani was in Lagares' league defensively. Kirk is a good defensive outfielder, but nothing really special.


That's very silly if Wally said that. Ceciliani is barely a CF
Jeff P  
DanMetroMan : 5/19/2015 11:04 am : link
The long of it: It feels like we have been waiting on a Ceciliani breakout forever, but after sitting on him for 10+ games, I don't see it coming. He plays hard, but the speed isn't there anymore (could be due to injuries or just speed peaking early). I clocked him as a below-average runner, and he combined that with some bad/late reads in the outfield, and could be indecisive on his throws. Played mostly left field in with Alonzo Harris in center. Arm will not play in right. My bigger concerns are on the offensive end. Ceciliani was a non-entity at the plate. He struggles with lefty breaking stuff, can be overly aggressive, and his swing has a lot of moving parts (see Alex's concerns below). He also got tossed in the middle of an at-bat for arguing balls and strikes (granted it was freezing, so I can't really blame him) and generally seemed frustrated during my looks.
Totally  
DanMetroMan : 5/19/2015 11:08 am : link
missed this but Molina shut down with an elbow issue ugh
From Metsblog  
CMicks3110 : 5/19/2015 11:11 am : link
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He is well known around the team for his strong defensive skills, with Triple-A manager Wally Backman recently telling SNY.TVs Robert Brender that Ceciliani has a similar read to Juan Lagares.
Marcos Molina?  
CMicks3110 : 5/19/2015 11:12 am : link
That sucks, I didn't have terribly high hopes for him because of his delivery. I am still very high on Fulmer, i know DMM, you say he's a reliever, but I think he has a fairly high upside. I watched him pitch at binghamton recently on Milb TV, and he's throwing 94-95 with a really nasty slider. His fastball command needs work, but he's got potential. Needs to lose weight though. What ever happened to Luis Mateo?
#1  
DanMetroMan : 5/19/2015 11:13 am : link
"similar reads" doesn't equate to being the same level of defender. You need the athletiscm to get to those balls #2 Lagares arm is a MAJOR part of his defensive value #3 Backman has managed Ceciliani more than once and is known as one of "his guys". #4 Backman is known as an over the top promoter of guys he's managed. His comments in his documentary series are absolutely ridiculous. He compared Mejia to Gooden...
RE: Marcos Molina?  
DanMetroMan : 5/19/2015 11:17 am : link
In comment 12292581 CMicks3110 said:
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That sucks, I didn't have terribly high hopes for him because of his delivery. I am still very high on Fulmer, i know DMM, you say he's a reliever, but I think he has a fairly high upside. I watched him pitch at binghamton recently on Milb TV, and he's throwing 94-95 with a really nasty slider. His fastball command needs work, but he's got potential. Needs to lose weight though. What ever happened to Luis Mateo?


Mateo "disappeared". Rubin said he hasn't heard anything about him which leads me to believe they have given up on him. He reportedly was shut down last year after not taking rehab seriously with sub par velocity. Fulmer has a live arm but yeah, most think he's a reliever. Never can stay healthy and has 2 pitches. Can't say I've seen him pitch this year but he's heavy FB/slider with a changeup that pretty much isn't there. First step will be staying healthy. I like the arm, just not betting on the health to start.
i just looked this up  
sshin05 : 5/19/2015 11:47 am : link
but Aaron harang has the same fwar as Matt Harvey at 1.6. Lol.
RE: i just looked this up  
Giants2012 : 5/19/2015 12:13 pm : link
In comment 12292681 sshin05 said:
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but Aaron harang has the same fwar as Matt Harvey at 1.6. Lol.


I think this is where the saber maniacs use the "sample size" card.

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arcarsenal : 5/19/2015 12:28 pm : link
Harang will level out. 4.21 xFIP, unsustainable walk rate, unsustainable BABIP.. his HR/9 will go up a bit, etc.

nah  
Giants2012 : 5/19/2015 12:45 pm : link
if his numbers rise he's just nervous.
What's the latest  
CMicks3110 : 5/19/2015 1:33 pm : link
with Montero?
RE: nah  
arcarsenal : 5/19/2015 1:39 pm : link
In comment 12292794 Giants2012 said:
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if his numbers rise he's just nervous.


I appreciate the multiple attempts at humor but you're really just so bad at it that I'd give it up. You're like 0 for 1,000 at this point.

Stick to relaying bad info from the Flying Puck. You're good at being wrong about everything. Being clever or witty? Just.. nah.
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DanMetroMan : 5/19/2015 1:49 pm : link
The Mets are debating whether to trade Daniel Murphy, move Wilmer Flores to second base and promote Triple-A infielder Matt Reynolds to play shortstop, after activating David Wright from the disabled list, according to FOXSports.coms Ken Rosenthal (May 16, 4:08 pm).



Would be an extremely strange time to make this move. Reynolds is really struggling and Murphy is hitting well. If this were a throwaway season then sure but "trading Murphy" just to make room for Reynolds seem strange (and I'm a trade Murphy vs. lose Murphy for nothing advocate).

RE: RE: nah  
Giants2012 : 5/19/2015 1:53 pm : link
In comment 12292901 arcarsenal said:
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if his numbers rise he's just nervous.



I appreciate the multiple attempts at humor but you're really just so bad at it that I'd give it up. You're like 0 for 1,000 at this point.

Stick to relaying bad info from the Flying Puck. You're good at being wrong about everything. Being clever or witty? Just.. nah.


So long as I know you can dish it out yet can't take it I'll continue smiling Crosby. Shave today? nah
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arcarsenal : 5/19/2015 1:57 pm : link
Painfully unfunny.
kirk dfa'd  
sshin05 : 5/19/2015 1:59 pm : link
Adam Rubin ‏@AdamRubinESPN 4m4 minutes ago
Source tells http://ESPN.com that Kirk Nieuwenhuis has been designated for assignment by the #Mets.
RE: .  
Metnut : 5/19/2015 2:00 pm : link
In comment 12292923 DanMetroMan said:
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The Mets are debating whether to trade Daniel Murphy, move Wilmer Flores to second base and promote Triple-A infielder Matt Reynolds to play shortstop, after activating David Wright from the disabled list, according to FOXSports.coms Ken Rosenthal (May 16, 4:08 pm).



Would be an extremely strange time to make this move. Reynolds is really struggling and Murphy is hitting well. If this were a throwaway season then sure but "trading Murphy" just to make room for Reynolds seem strange (and I'm a trade Murphy vs. lose Murphy for nothing advocate).


I suspect that information is dated. Like you said, Reynolds is slumping in AAA and Murphy is hitting well lately.
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DanMetroMan : 5/19/2015 2:15 pm : link
With Ryu facing shoulder surgery a potential landing spot for Gee or Niese is possibly on the table #mets
Im betting Sandy is working the phones  
ZGiants98 : 5/19/2015 2:30 pm : link
Syndergaard can't go back down and I don't really want to see Gee in the pen again as the longman. It likely takes the place of one of the youngins Goedell, Robles, or Leathersich which would be counterproductive.
Parnell rocked again today  
DanMetroMan : 5/19/2015 2:34 pm : link
Sandy has acknowledged he isn't progressing as they have liked (said this after his previous outing)


Very curious to see if Harvey's success after long rehab vs. Parnell's lack-of with short has any impact on Wheeler time table #mets
Im obviously in the minority  
ZGiants98 : 5/19/2015 2:35 pm : link
but I hope Kirk clears waivers and re-finds his swing in Vegas. He's been brutal so I agree a move needed to be made, but I still think he offers some nice backup depth with MDD gone that we might be able to use at some point.

Speaking of that, whatever happened to Puello? I heard weeks ago he was healthy and would have to clear waivers again?? Haven't heard a peep since.
Puello  
DanMetroMan : 5/19/2015 2:36 pm : link
is on the 60 day DL.
If I had to guess  
ZGiants98 : 5/19/2015 2:39 pm : link
We aren't ever even going to need Parnell and Black this year. If Robles, Goedell, and Leathersich keep progressing they should eventually fill the back portion of the pen, if they haven't already. Plus I highly doubt we dump Mejia. Plus you have Blevens coming back at some point. Plus you have the deadline. We should have more than enough options.

Parnell and Black aren't even on my radar anymore.
RE: Puello  
ZGiants98 : 5/19/2015 2:40 pm : link
In comment 12293028 DanMetroMan said:
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is on the 60 day DL.


Wasn't there a bunch of news about him having recovered and him having to pass through waivers again? Im confused. Must have missed that one.
RE: Puello  
Shecky : 5/19/2015 2:41 pm : link
In comment 12293028 DanMetroMan said:
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is on the 60 day DL.

I hope he rots, completely fucked the Mets
RE: RE: Puello  
DanMetroMan : 5/19/2015 2:42 pm : link
In comment 12293037 ZGiants98 said:
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is on the 60 day DL.



Wasn't there a bunch of news about him having recovered and him having to pass through waivers again? Im confused. Must have missed that one.



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The Mets moved outfielder Cesar Puello to the 60-day disabled list, per ESPN.

Puello was on the 15-day disabled list with a back injury. He hasn't played yet this season. The move opens up a spot on the 40-man roster for Johnny Monell, called up by the team on Tuesday."
RE: RE: Puello  
ZGiants98 : 5/19/2015 2:43 pm : link
In comment 12293039 Shecky said:
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is on the 60 day DL.


I hope he rots, completely fucked the Mets


I think it had more to do with his agent but I agree, that was a shitty move.
RE: RE: RE: Puello  
ZGiants98 : 5/19/2015 2:44 pm : link
In comment 12293043 DanMetroMan said:
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is on the 60 day DL.



Wasn't there a bunch of news about him having recovered and him having to pass through waivers again? Im confused. Must have missed that one.




"

The Mets moved outfielder Cesar Puello to the 60-day disabled list, per ESPN.

Puello was on the 15-day disabled list with a back injury. He hasn't played yet this season. The move opens up a spot on the 40-man roster for Johnny Monell, called up by the team on Tuesday."


Thanks Dan. I guess that's how they got Monell on the roster. I must have missed that. Kind of strange since weeks ago they said he had recovered but oh well.
Dan - regarding trading Neise or Gee to LA  
debo_GIANTS : 5/19/2015 2:44 pm : link
that actually makes a ton of sense. Do you see them going after Van Slyke or Andre Either?
FYi  
Shecky : 5/19/2015 2:46 pm : link
The Puello injury is typically of an out of shape player who starts doing too much too soon. So this "injury" is on him to begin with...
according to fangraphs  
ZGiants98 : 5/19/2015 2:47 pm : link
Leathersich is "John" Leathersich. lol
RE: Dan - regarding trading Neise or Gee to LA  
DanMetroMan : 5/19/2015 2:48 pm : link
In comment 12293049 debo_GIANTS said:
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that actually makes a ton of sense. Do you see them going after Van Slyke or Andre Either?


Van Slyke would be a nice guy. Even Guerrero but doesn't seem like the money would really work. Ethier would really only make sense if the Dodgers ate a ton because Gee is making roughly 5 while Ethier is due over 40 million. Van Slyke would be a solid get though. I'd take a decent prospect though. Unrealistic but I'm digging this De Leon kid. Video game numbers.
Pulled from NYFS  
DanMetroMan : 5/19/2015 2:49 pm : link
"348 players have 40 plate appearances or more this season. Kirk is dead last in both wOBA and wRC+. Only Drew Stubbs has a higher K%."
Yeah  
ZGiants98 : 5/19/2015 2:51 pm : link
having 3 hits in 30 whatever abates will do that.

The equivalent of a regular going 3 for a whole week.
RE: Yeah  
Metnut : 5/19/2015 2:54 pm : link
In comment 12293066 ZGiants98 said:
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having 3 hits in 30 whatever abates will do that.

The equivalent of a regular going 3 for a whole week.


Except a regular could run into something like Kershaw/Greinke/Scherzer etc. all in the same week. Much less likely to happen for a part time player over the course of 40+ games.
RE: .  
Eric on Li : 5/19/2015 2:55 pm : link
In comment 12292923 DanMetroMan said:
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The Mets are debating whether to trade Daniel Murphy, move Wilmer Flores to second base and promote Triple-A infielder Matt Reynolds to play shortstop, after activating David Wright from the disabled list, according to FOXSports.coms Ken Rosenthal (May 16, 4:08 pm).



Would be an extremely strange time to make this move. Reynolds is really struggling and Murphy is hitting well. If this were a throwaway season then sure but "trading Murphy" just to make room for Reynolds seem strange (and I'm a trade Murphy vs. lose Murphy for nothing advocate).


I think it only makes sense under 1 scenario (which is plausible IMO):

a) They determine Flores has to move off SS
b) They don't want to give up on his bat

If they believe those 2 things, it makes sense to see what they have in Reynolds for a month or 2 before feeling compelled to make an external move. I'd want to see Wright come back strong before dealing Murphy, and in all honesty I'd even consider moving Murphy to the bench as an insurance policy if I wasn't getting a good return.
Eric  
DanMetroMan : 5/19/2015 2:57 pm : link
I don't see the upside of gambling on this right now. Matt Reynolds is currently 46th in both wRC+ and wOBA in his own league. We just saw Plawecki and Herrera come up despite HUGE PCL numbers and struggle. It's a near lock that Reynolds would be a 2015 downgrade from Daniel Murphy even ignoring his terrible May (Reynolds).
RE: RE: Yeah  
ZGiants98 : 5/19/2015 2:58 pm : link
In comment 12293071 Metnut said:
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having 3 hits in 30 whatever abates will do that.

The equivalent of a regular going 3 for a whole week.



Except a regular could run into something like Kershaw/Greinke/Scherzer etc. all in the same week. Much less likely to happen for a part time player over the course of 40+ games.


Kind of a weird point. Nobody's saying Kirk hasn't struggled. I think everyone has had a cold week before is my point, regardless of who they are facing. We've seen just about every player in our lineup have exactly that this year already including Duda.

All good. I concede something should have been done. Everyone needs to produce and he isn't important enough to carry based on merit. Its still an absurdly small sample however.
If  
DanMetroMan : 5/19/2015 2:58 pm : link
the story were that the Mets were getting strong offers on Murphy and this was why they were considering it I would feel otherwise but that's not at all how the story reads.
RE: Eric  
ZGiants98 : 5/19/2015 2:58 pm : link
In comment 12293076 DanMetroMan said:
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I don't see the upside of gambling on this right now. Matt Reynolds is currently 46th in both wRC+ and wOBA in his own league. We just saw Plawecki and Herrera come up despite HUGE PCL numbers and struggle. It's a near lock that Reynolds would be a 2015 downgrade from Daniel Murphy even ignoring his terrible May (Reynolds).


+ 1,000,000.
Im a big fan of Reynolds  
ZGiants98 : 5/19/2015 3:01 pm : link
but he is having a brutal May. Murphy is having a fantastic May. In no way shape or form do we upgrade the team swapping Murphy for Reynolds right now.
RE: Eric  
Eric on Li : 5/19/2015 3:01 pm : link
In comment 12293076 DanMetroMan said:
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I don't see the upside of gambling on this right now. Matt Reynolds is currently 46th in both wRC+ and wOBA in his own league. We just saw Plawecki and Herrera come up despite HUGE PCL numbers and struggle. It's a near lock that Reynolds would be a 2015 downgrade from Daniel Murphy even ignoring his terrible May (Reynolds).


Agreed - but they are both pretty big upgrades defensively (especially Flores at 2B over Murphy). Also it's not just Reynolds vs. Murphy, it's Flores vs. Murphy. If they think they may need to call up Reynolds to be the long term SS over Flores for defensive reasons independent of Murphy, then you are comparing Flores/Murphy. I believe in Flores' bat so I'd rather see Flores start over him if that's what it came down to.
Flores  
DanMetroMan : 5/19/2015 3:04 pm : link
hasn't been great at SS but Reynolds isn't a defensive dynamo himself. The offense is a MAJOR issue, now we are going to dump one of the few "constants"(slow start aside)? The offense could potentially be awful with Murphy replaced by unproven Reynolds. It's not as if they have a bunch of internal offensive options or even places to upgrade offensively.
And totally hear the point about that move hurting the team now  
Eric on Li : 5/19/2015 3:04 pm : link
But if I could get something good for Murphy off this hot streak (SF maybe?) i'd be ok with it. I would certainly not change things up for no reason and all of this would only come into play when Wright is fully ready post-rehab.
You also keep leaving Herrera  
ZGiants98 : 5/19/2015 3:06 pm : link
out of the equation who is arguably our best position prospect in a loaded system. He'll be back soon and back in the mix. Reynolds isn't on Herrera's level, especially with him in the midst of a brutal cold streak right now and it doesn't make sense to move Flores to 2nd with Herrera the air apparent.

Reynolds role in my opinion was to offer nice depth in case Flores failed in 2015 and Flores isn't failing. Where we go now is maybe a nice utility bench player towards the end of 2015 but he needs to be playing every day at this point.
Again  
DanMetroMan : 5/19/2015 3:06 pm : link
while I like Reynolds he's having a terrible month (bad enough where his overall numbers rank him outside the top 45 in both wRC+ and wOBA outside of a hope and a prayer why would we expect him to come up and succeed right now? Murphy .773 OPS last 28 days.
Also Rosenthal had reported that over the weekend  
Eric on Li : 5/19/2015 3:07 pm : link
a day after Flores had made the error in the Cubs game and then posted another in the opening loss to Milwaukee. Obviously things are looking up since then.
RE: And totally hear the point about that move hurting the team now  
DanMetroMan : 5/19/2015 3:08 pm : link
In comment 12293091 Eric on Li said:
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But if I could get something good for Murphy off this hot streak (SF maybe?) i'd be ok with it. I would certainly not change things up for no reason and all of this would only come into play when Wright is fully ready post-rehab.


Well that's a different argument. If the return were good enough to take a very real chance they get WORSE in the immediate future than so be it but this sounds more like they hope Reynolds/Flores are better defensively than Flores/Murphy and to me the upgrade simply isn't enough to dump an offensive constant. There was tepid interest in Murphy all off-season I find it hard to believe suddenly on 5/19 teams have changed their tune due to a .773 OPS month.
RE: You also keep leaving Herrera  
Eric on Li : 5/19/2015 3:09 pm : link
In comment 12293093 ZGiants98 said:
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out of the equation who is arguably our best position prospect in a loaded system. He'll be back soon and back in the mix. Reynolds isn't on Herrera's level, especially with him in the midst of a brutal cold streak right now and it doesn't make sense to move Flores to 2nd with Herrera the air apparent.

Reynolds role in my opinion was to offer nice depth in case Flores failed in 2015 and Flores isn't failing. Where we go now is maybe a nice utility bench player towards the end of 2015 but he needs to be playing every day at this point.


I'm not leaving Herrera out, but unlike Reynolds he has show that he's not ready to make an impact right now (not a huge shock considering his age). Herrera if anything makes it easier to deal Murphy because he's additional depth potentially behind Flores.
RE: RE: And totally hear the point about that move hurting the team now  
Eric on Li : 5/19/2015 3:11 pm : link
In comment 12293098 DanMetroMan said:
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But if I could get something good for Murphy off this hot streak (SF maybe?) i'd be ok with it. I would certainly not change things up for no reason and all of this would only come into play when Wright is fully ready post-rehab.



Well that's a different argument. If the return were good enough to take a very real chance they get WORSE in the immediate future than so be it but this sounds more like they hope Reynolds/Flores are better defensively than Flores/Murphy and to me the upgrade simply isn't enough to dump an offensive constant. There was tepid interest in Murphy all off-season I find it hard to believe suddenly on 5/19 teams have changed their tune due to a .773 OPS month.


I agree with that logic but that was part of Rosenthal's report (Mets dealing Murphy).
I dont know  
ZGiants98 : 5/19/2015 3:13 pm : link
Herrera looked like he was coming around and he looked better than expected defensively. I don't think he's a year away. He has nothing left to prove in AAA anyway. If he comes back healthy in a month and we really want to trade Murphy, it would be to get Herrera back in the lineup. Id prefer him to keep getting atbats and learning at the major league level at this point anyway especially if he is holding his own defensively.

Not every top prospect comes up and busts out offensively in their first week or two. He needs time to adjust.
Neise / Gee + Murphy + Prospect to LA  
debo_GIANTS : 5/19/2015 3:14 pm : link
for Van Slyke + call me JT
If you extrapolate Herrera's first 28 games  
ZGiants98 : 5/19/2015 3:17 pm : link
out in the big leagues he's still on pace for 23.12 homeruns in a season which is amazing considering his age.
Is the spelling of Niese  
Giants2012 : 5/19/2015 3:17 pm : link
incorrectly a theme or something?
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DanMetroMan : 5/19/2015 3:19 pm : link
The Mets hope Travis dArnaud will be able to be activated from the disabled list this weekend against the Pirates, a team source told Daily News reporter Kristie Ackert (May 19, 1:54 am).

DArnaud swung a bat Monday in Port St. Lucie, according to Newsday reporter Marc Carig (May 18, 4:20 pm).
RE: If you extrapolate Herrera's first 28 games  
Giants2012 : 5/19/2015 3:19 pm : link
In comment 12293116 ZGiants98 said:
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out in the big leagues he's still on pace for 23.12 homeruns in a season which is amazing considering his age.


Do it over a career and he's in the HOF too.

GOAT perhaps.
Kristie Ackert  
ZGiants98 : 5/19/2015 3:21 pm : link
reported that an inside source has TDA coming back as soon as this weekend against the Pirates. That would be fucking awesome.
Agreed - Vegas is making it hard to get a read on AAA hitters  
Eric on Li : 5/19/2015 3:21 pm : link
Again my position on this whole scenario is simply this:

1. I believe in Flores bat, but not in his glove at SS long term.
2. The team needs to get better defensively up the middle to compete.
3. They're moving on from Murphy at some point in the near future no matter what, might as well give Flores' bat a chance at a position he has better athleticism to handle (and less spotlight).

Flores leads the team in HRs and has shown some clutch qualities. There's no question the pressure at SS has come to the plate with him at times. Get something decent for Murphy, give Flores a couple months at 2B and lets see if he can settle in as a 20 HR guy there.

Whether they bring up Reynolds or trade for a SS, I think that's a move they will eventually need to make regardless of how they handle Murphy.
My bad Dan.  
ZGiants98 : 5/19/2015 3:22 pm : link
Beat me.
Really pumped to get TdA back  
Eric on Li : 5/19/2015 3:23 pm : link
he has the chance to make a big difference in this lineup.
3 runs on 4 hits  
Metnut : 5/19/2015 3:24 pm : link
in 1.1 IP for Parnell today. 2Ks at least.
RE: Agreed - Vegas is making it hard to get a read on AAA hitters  
Giants2012 : 5/19/2015 3:26 pm : link
In comment 12293128 Eric on Li said:
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Again my position on this whole scenario is simply this:

1. I believe in Flores bat, but not in his glove at SS long term.
2. The team needs to get better defensively up the middle to compete.


Outside of a few, everybody in the fan base agrees with you.
RE: Agreed - Vegas is making it hard to get a read on AAA hitters  
ZGiants98 : 5/19/2015 3:27 pm : link
In comment 12293128 Eric on Li said:
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Again my position on this whole scenario is simply this:

1. I believe in Flores bat, but not in his glove at SS long term.
2. The team needs to get better defensively up the middle to compete.
3. They're moving on from Murphy at some point in the near future no matter what, might as well give Flores' bat a chance at a position he has better athleticism to handle (and less spotlight).

Flores leads the team in HRs and has shown some clutch qualities. There's no question the pressure at SS has come to the plate with him at times. Get something decent for Murphy, give Flores a couple months at 2B and lets see if he can settle in as a 20 HR guy there.

Whether they bring up Reynolds or trade for a SS, I think that's a move they will eventually need to make regardless of how they handle Murphy.


There's nothing wrong with this belief. It is not one many of use here share. Like last year, the defensive metrics are actually proving Flores CAN play SS. The errors have been a big issue and obviously he can't continue on that pace(he won't) but mental issues aside he's actually been pretty good. If he's going to rush throws, he can do just as much damage mentally at 2nd as well IMO. I think as the season continues on he's going to start getting more comfortable and with Wright and TDA back in the lineup I think he'll start getting better pitches to hit as well. I think the worst of the mental gaffes are behind him but we'll see. I'd like to ride this out a little further though.
Sadly  
DanMetroMan : 5/19/2015 3:28 pm : link
I think Parnell is donezo.
RE: Really pumped to get TdA back  
ZGiants98 : 5/19/2015 3:29 pm : link
In comment 12293132 Eric on Li said:
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he has the chance to make a big difference in this lineup.


Sadly its mostly because Plawecki has provided so little. Its likely a MASSIVE upgrade right now. That said Plawecki needs to go back down and work on some things and I think he'll be back at some point, but we need TDA right now in the worst way.
Flores lol  
Giants2012 : 5/19/2015 3:31 pm : link
The mental excuses are just comical. Disregard the obvious when watching the kid, recite saber stats and then throw in something nobody can see and call it mental. lol - good lord.
Current Mets (regulars) leaders  
Metnut : 5/19/2015 3:32 pm : link
in fangraphs WAR:

Harvey 1.6
Duda 1.3
Flores 0.8
Colon 0.8
D'Arnaud 0.6
DeGrom 0.6
Granderson 0.4
Lagares 0.4
I still think its stupid  
ZGiants98 : 5/19/2015 3:43 pm : link
to bat a hitter 9th but if it makes sense for one player on this team its Lagares. Unfortunately, Collins is just playing copy cat and has now idea what he's doing as evidenced by putting your leading homerun hitter who has a low OBP there already this season in Flores.

That said the theory behind having a hitter bat 9th is to have a "leadoff lite" version there. Somebody without the OBP skills but that offers some leadoff qualities so if he gets on base the 1, 2, 3, 4 guys have more chances to drive him in.



Getting excited about what a Wright/TDA  
ZGiants98 : 5/19/2015 3:46 pm : link
lineup looks like currently.

1.) Granderson
2.) TDA
3.) Wright
4.) Duda
5.) Flores
6.) Murphy
7.) Cuddyer

9.) Lagares

?
That lineup  
Metnut : 5/19/2015 3:55 pm : link
is fine but I'd rather flip Murphy and TDA.
d'Arnaud's  
sshin05 : 5/19/2015 4:11 pm : link
fwar is actually 0.5 but that's crazy for someone who only played 11 games! I would bat him 4th or 2nd.

granderson
Tda
duda
Wright
murphy/flores
flores/murphy
cuddy
pitcher
lagares
RE: Sadly  
Shecky : 5/19/2015 4:14 pm : link
In comment 12293141 DanMetroMan said:
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I think Parnell is donezo.


Looks like someone might win their bet...
Im surprised that Hansel Robles throws this hard  
Headhunter : 5/19/2015 4:25 pm : link
I like him a lot, what are his secondary pitches? I don't recall and are they any good?
Looking at the mets roster  
sshin05 : 5/19/2015 4:26 pm : link
they have 7 rookies or first year players on a first place team. Not to mention Muno and Herrera who played a bit. Most of them are pitchers but they do have a pretty young core.
RE: Im surprised that Hansel Robles throws this hard  
DanMetroMan : 5/19/2015 4:29 pm : link
In comment 12293215 Headhunter said:
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I like him a lot, what are his secondary pitches? I don't recall and are they any good?


Once they moved him to the pen last year his FB velocity spiked. He's always been seen as a reliever based on his delivery/build. Throws a CU and a slider, scouts prefer the CU to the "average-ish" slider.
RE: RE: Sadly  
ZGiants98 : 5/19/2015 4:31 pm : link
In comment 12293210 Shecky said:
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In comment 12293141 DanMetroMan said:


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I think Parnell is donezo.



Looks like someone might win their bet...


Lol. There was no bet.
Robles seems  
ZGiants98 : 5/19/2015 4:33 pm : link
Be throwing his slider for strikes and it seems to be getting better.
RE: Robles seems  
DanMetroMan : 5/19/2015 4:35 pm : link
In comment 12293230 ZGiants98 said:
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Be throwing his slider for strikes and it seems to be getting better.


Let's hope that continues. RH relievers generally need a good breaking ball because 94-98 is sexy but every MLB hitter can time that if they know it's coming. Right now it's "who is this guy?". I like Robles arm, I was pro-adding Robles to the 40 man in the off-season.
Akeem Morris  
Headhunter : 5/19/2015 4:40 pm : link
has to be bumped up a level. I saw him this spring and liked what I saw but that was ST. I think he might be for real, seems to have been around forever, but he is only 22
Akeel  
pjcas18 : 5/19/2015 4:48 pm : link
.

DMM and I were discussing him yesterday, it's strange.
RE: Akeel  
DanMetroMan : 5/19/2015 5:06 pm : link
In comment 12293245 pjcas18 said:
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DMM and I were discussing him yesterday, it's strange.


Gotta believe it happens somewhat soon. They are probably going to need pen help at some point. Might as well test him in AA. Maybe he's not the answer but let's see how he does vs. more experienced hitters. Robles arrived pretty quickly himself once moving to the pen.
Ready to see more of Leathersich  
ZGiants98 : 5/19/2015 5:10 pm : link
He was outstanding in the PCL and Viola says he's finally figured it out. I want to see more.
.  
arcarsenal : 5/19/2015 5:14 pm : link
Has Leathersitch been better against LHB recently or does he still have reverse splits? His numbers look great overall so I guess he must be pitching pretty well to both, but..
Sandy  
DanMetroMan : 5/19/2015 5:16 pm : link
apparently says TDA will NOT be back this weekend but hopefully 10-14 days thanks to stamina issues.
RE: .  
DanMetroMan : 5/19/2015 5:19 pm : link
In comment 12293259 arcarsenal said:
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Has Leathersitch been better against LHB recently or does he still have reverse splits? His numbers look great overall so I guess he must be pitching pretty well to both, but..


He's only faced 15 lefties at AAA so far this year. They are 3/15 with 7 k's

On the season AAA/MLB

18 ab's vs. lefties they are hitting .300 1 walk 7 k's.

Sample size is FAR too small to judge either way though.
Sorry  
DanMetroMan : 5/19/2015 5:20 pm : link
not .300, .278
ha  
sshin05 : 5/19/2015 5:26 pm : link
duane below just pitched a CG shut out 4 hitter for the 51's.
.  
DanMetroMan : 5/19/2015 5:27 pm : link
Marc Carig

@MarcCarig

Translation: bank of two weeks, which is pretty obvious given rehab timelines and where TDA is on that spectrum.
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Marc Carig

@MarcCarig

Alderson also mentioned to a few reporters yesterday that Mets have a longer rehab protocol for catchers. Today, said 7-10 days at best.
RE: ha  
DanMetroMan : 5/19/2015 5:28 pm : link
In comment 12293267 sshin05 said:
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duane below just pitched a CG shut out 4 hitter for the 51's.


I saw that. I was tempted to note on tomorrows minor league thread "likely the only time I ever mention Duane BeloW" lol
I don't understand baseball players sometime  
debo_GIANTS : 5/19/2015 5:41 pm : link
TDA needs two weeks to get his stamina up?

He had a broken pinky, why couldn't he run on a treadmill for the past 3 weeks to maintain his conditioning. SMH
RE: RE: .  
ZGiants98 : 5/19/2015 5:54 pm : link
In comment 12293262 DanMetroMan said:
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In comment 12293259 arcarsenal said:


Quote:


Has Leathersitch been better against LHB recently or does he still have reverse splits? His numbers look great overall so I guess he must be pitching pretty well to both, but..



He's only faced 15 lefties at AAA so far this year. They are 3/15 with 7 k's

On the season AAA/MLB

18 ab's vs. lefties they are hitting .300 1 walk 7 k's.

Sample size is FAR too small to judge either way though.


His issue with me has always been his control. He's seems to have gotten a hold of that which will be a quantum leap forward if true.
it seems that  
Bleedin Blue : 5/19/2015 7:34 pm : link
Gorski has reached his peak! He does well, high K ratio up to DBL A then gets smacked around in Vegas. He tends to give up the long ball in triple A. He "may" one day get a call up as a reliever, but I don't think anytime soon. JMHO!
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