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My Exciting Baker's Dozen Of Hope For This Season

gidiefor : Mod : 5/19/2015 10:48 am
I can't understand all the doom and gloom I am still hearing about the NYGiants - and the accusations that this is a talentless team. I did an exercise to name 12 players on the Giants that excite me -- the rest of you -- name your own - here goes mine:

Eli Manning

Eli Manning is still the most exciting player on the NY Giants to me. Ever since he’s stepped on the field I have gotten the sense that the Giants are for real and they always have a chance to win. Eli is a playmaker and the consummate professional – He always seems prepared to play when he’s out there – no matter what the circumstances. He has not only taken the Giants on two magical runs – but he has managed to have a string of exciting games in every season he has played. I believe that his best is still yet to come and that we has a couple more playoff runs in him, and I thank god every day that he is a NY Giant.

Odel Beckham Jr

What can I say other than OBJ is a sensation – a wide receiver on a level that we have never seen on the NY Giants before. He has mad game changing ability and talent and is a touchdown or first down waiting to happen on every play he’s out in the field. He’s go the sizzle and desire and the skill set to match - and with Eli Manning to throw to him – he’s got everything going for him.

Shane Vereen

Shane Vereen is a missing piece that the Giants added this year – he can catch, he can block and he can carry the rock and make tough yards. He’s a missing piece because the Giants Offensive Playbook under Coach MacAdoo requires use of the screen pass – and Shane Vereen is going to give the Giants a strong Screen pass option and game – a new dimension that it hasn’t had in the past. He’s proven under fire that he can produce when the game is on the line.

Larry Donnell

Larry Donnell is hard working big pass catching option that lumbers up the seam. He typifies the blue lunch pail player that has been part and parcel of the NY Giants success in their long and storied tradition. This year he shows up to work after having a full season under his belt and a hunger to prove that he can be the #1 NY Giants Tight End Option. This is a guy that makes the tough catches and last year – just needed to learn how to land and you can be sure that he’s spent the entire off season perfecting that skill. Never mind Ruben Randle and Victor Cruz – this pass catcher is even more important – there’s 7 potent potential passing options on third downs for the Giants: Beckham, Randle, Cruz, Vereen, Jennings, Harris and Donnell – that is an awesome set of player options – and you can’t even have all of them on the field at the same time. He is why Cruz is not a critical part of the puzzle, but a luxury we hope will eventually return.

Ereck Flowers

Ereck Flowers is a Giant. Plain and simple. A big powerful man with a nasty streak in him that is going to fire up the Offensive line. The NY Giants offensive line is set up this year to dominate. They have added pieces over the past three years that have turned this line from a weakness to an asset – They already had Beatty – who is a better player than most fans give him credit for – enter Pugh, then Schwartz and Richburg, and now Flowers – Flowers is the crown jewel to this group – he already turning heads on the blue lunch bucket crew. This addition will not only assist Eli Manning in pass protection – but more importantly will assist the NY Giants in establishing a power run game, and a screen game – both of which they must establish to be a dominant Offense.

Andre Williams

Andre Williams is muscle ripped true power runner. What has he been missing? He’s been missing a cohesive Offensive line to run behind - Guess what – This year he’s got it – and he’s going to be a battering ram runner for us. He has demonstrated production – he has been patiently developing – this year with an intact Offensive line – he is going to burst into the scene and become a 1000 yd running back for us. He’s going to win the hard yards and the goal line – bursting through with the needed yard.

Dwayne Harris

Dwayne Harris is a proven multipronged threat for the NY Giants – He’s a power hitter – a decisive runner and he’s got great hands. He’s not just a returner – he’s a third down threat – both in the screen game and the passing game. Put this guy on the field and he’s a T-Bone Playa – he’s under rated by most around here – but I’ve got a news flash for you – this guy is gonna make things happen. He’s an X-Factor that is going to send ripples through the Giants Offense

Jonathan Hankins

When you pair a 6’4” 346 lb Kendrick Ellis with a 6’ 2’ 320 lb player like Jonathan Hankins – you have clogged the middle of the field – and with his demonstrated toughness and athleticism – he becomes a new facet to the pass rushing threat of the Giants Defensive line. Never mind the rest of the line – Ellis is going to free Hankins up and make him a disruption on the Defensive front line. Spags is going to utilize these two – into a weapon we’ve never seen before coming out of the center – he is going to plunder the opposition all season long

JPP

JPP is in the best shape he’s ever been since joining the Giants. The Giants made the right choice this year – they asked JPP to prove it – and he is going to prove it. He is the most athletic, most dynamic player on the Defensive line – he is part of the forest that mystified Tom Brady in the 2012 Superbowl and he is out to prove that he is a force deserving the $100 million contract. With the aggression of the Defense ratcheted up this year – and with his Giant size, invigorated explosive strength and extra long reach - look to JPP to be a stand out disruptive force this year that sees action all along the line this year.

Landon Collins

Landon Collins is probably the most under-rated player ever coming out of a draft. He was a top 10 football player in this years draft in my book. This guy is a footballer. He’s fierce, he’s disruptive, he’s versatile, and he lays the wood. Forget about the box player everyone has been labeling him as, this guy is the missing link in stopping the run that the Giants haven’t had in the past two years, and mark my words, he’s going to become the leader of the defense.

Owa O-diggy-zu-wa

I don’t expect Owa to be a starter this year – but he’s an amazing physical specimen that is going to make a number of explosive appearances this year and show us flashes of his amazing potential sizzle. He’s going to impact Special teams and he’s going to play a bit role on the line that disrupts the game. This is not a Damontre Moore – this is a much more intelligent and gifted athlete with a will to be on the field and to be effective. This kid is going to fire the Special Teams up, and fire the Defensive line up when he’s on the field. He will add another dimension to the forest that mystifies Tom Brady on the D-Line.

DRC/Prince Amukamara

I have these two listed as one exciting guy – Why? Because not withstanding anything to the contrary – these two Cornerbacks are both great players and excel in pass coverage – the issue in the backfield has boils down to two things – can Truman McBride play at a high level all season and man the slot – and can these two be healthy – if they can – in concert with the invigorated Dline – and the new Defensive management the Giants will have not just a good defense – but a great defense.

Let me add Two Bonus Names into the mix here to make this a Bakers Dozen:

MacAdoo and Spagnuola the Offensive and Defensive Coordinators

In a league with parity - great coaching makes a difference. This is the first year that, going into a season, where I feel a charge – a power surge – calling the shots on both sides of the ball. I am going to say it right here and right now: these are the two best Coordinators Tom Coughlin ever hired! He pulled both of them from obscurity to the forefront of football, and together they are going to form one of the great coaching trios in football. I believe this, and I think the Giants personnel as currently made up will give them both some fuel to fire on all cylinders.

The key is – stay healthy boys – I’m begging you !

That’s my story and I’m Sticking to it – Go GiantS!!!
Sounds good to me.  
Big Blue '56 : 5/19/2015 10:54 am : link
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Excited about Randle..  
Big Blue '56 : 5/19/2015 10:55 am : link
I think he finally got it! Fingers crossed of course
fiddy  
gidiefor : Mod : 5/19/2015 11:01 am : link
In my mind the Ruben Randle of last year is good enough to play an important role on the team this year - he doesn't have to be exciting. All he has to do is put up the same numbers he did last year.
RE: fiddy  
Big Blue '56 : 5/19/2015 11:03 am : link
In comment 12292543 gidiefor said:
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In my mind the Ruben Randle of last year is good enough to play an important role on the team this year - he doesn't have to be exciting. All he has to do is put up the same numbers he did last year.


True dat and THAT is what excites me, the thought of consistency..
RE: Sounds good to me.  
Montreal Man : 5/19/2015 11:04 am : link
In comment 12292532 Big Blue '56 said:
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My sentiments 'zactly."
RE: fiddy  
Montreal Man : 5/19/2015 11:05 am : link
In comment 12292543 gidiefor said:
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In my mind the Ruben Randle of last year is good enough to play an important role on the team this year - he doesn't have to be exciting. All he has to do is put up the same numbers he did last year.


That's right and I still don't see why he gets so much s**t on this board.
It's all.....  
Strip-Sack : 5/19/2015 11:07 am : link
on the Defense this year IMO. I fully expect the Offense to make a quantum leap in year 2 of this system but the Defense will have growing pains similar to what the Offense experienced last year....the hope is that health improves (obviously) and Spags can create more pressure....then there's the dreaded "black hole" in the middle which has plagued this team for years. We shall see if they have enough athleticism with the new LB's and LC, etc to finally make it difficult for TE's and slot WR's.
Good job Gidie...  
Joe in CT : 5/19/2015 11:07 am : link
love your list, only player I would like to add to it is Kennard, think we are going to start seeing the return of some much better LB play. Also looking forward to what Thomas brings to the table.
RE: Good job Gidie...  
Big Blue '56 : 5/19/2015 11:10 am : link
In comment 12292563 Joe in CT said:
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love your list, only player I would like to add to it is Kennard, think we are going to start seeing the return of some much better LB play. Also looking forward to what Thomas brings to the table.


Joe, great call on Kennard..I'm excited(and hopeful) to watch his improvement under Spags
injuries are the deciding factor  
micky : 5/19/2015 11:10 am : link
With their history, and the game itself, its inevitable or bound to happen. That's where depth is key (cb position is nightmare on that front) also OL and how quickly they gel. Spags different scheme will also take time..remember no one on roster (unless with him in st Louis or NO played under him) since his last stint here as DC. I agree with all the players mentioned as to watch.

Injuries and how well they can get around it..still a off season or two to get it up to par imho
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I Love Clams Casino : 5/19/2015 11:14 am : link
as the NFL team with the highest number of injuries the past 2 years - THIS \/ is a big part.

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The key is – stay healthy boys – I’m begging you !


Every year the same thing happens.....Giants fill holes at key positions and on paper, it all looks so promising, until you end the year with 22....yes...TWENTY-TWO player on IR....smh
RE: Good job Gidie...  
gidiefor : Mod : 5/19/2015 11:14 am : link
In comment 12292563 Joe in CT said:
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love your list, only player I would like to add to it is Kennard, think we are going to start seeing the return of some much better LB play. Also looking forward to what Thomas brings to the table.


Good job yourself Joe -- I forgot Kennard. In my mind the LBs do not need to be spectacular -- they just need to be adequate -- but Kennard has shown flashes that he may be real special and therefore another exciting player - you are adding fuel to my fire - Yeah BabY!!
My Shorter Hand Full  
Trainmaster : 5/19/2015 11:22 am : link
Eli - He should really flourish if: 1) the OL is even average, 2) either Randle or Cruz are decent and 3) the running game is at least average.

OBJ - Even with a sophomore slump, I'm looking to be amazed again.

Collins - I agree he may be the best pick for the Giants. I like a smart, physical safety with a chip on his shoulder.

McAdoo - I like his rapport with Eli and I think he'll do well with his new toys (Cruz back, Vereen).

Spags - With our DL, I really think he can make the Giants pass rush feared again. I'd love for the Giants to smack Romo around like a rag doll on opening night.
isn't a bakers dozen 13?  
giants#1 : 5/19/2015 11:25 am : link
Not 12?

With that said, I'm excited to see Moore with Spags as his DC. I think an overlooked aspect of the improved pass rush the last couple months of 2014 was the increased playing time for Moore. With a competent DC, I think we're looking at 8+ sacks from Moore in 2015.
My Short List  
ZogZerg : 5/19/2015 11:27 am : link
1. OL - Adding Flowers & getting Schwartz back should really boost this line. This will help the entire team.

2. Spags - Folks will be surprised how much "talent" is on the defense now that he is back.

3. Collins - He should really help the Run D. Looking forward to seeing him roam the field.
LOL  
pjcas18 : 5/19/2015 11:29 am : link
I'm not saying it's not true, but La'el Collins was a UDFA, but Landon Collins is underrated?

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Landon Collins is probably the most under-rated player ever coming out of a draft.


he was the first pick of the second round. he was the 33rd player selected. not too much room for being the most underrated.
RE: isn't a bakers dozen 13?  
gidiefor : Mod : 5/19/2015 11:32 am : link
In comment 12292618 giants#1 said:
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Not 12?

With that said, I'm excited to see Moore with Spags as his DC. I think an overlooked aspect of the improved pass rush the last couple months of 2014 was the increased playing time for Moore. With a competent DC, I think we're looking at 8+ sacks from Moore in 2015.


giants in all fairness -- there are really 15 names up there including the two coaches and thirteen players i named -- but in theory I named the huber twelve player as two players - then # thirteen is both coaches
Here are some other key players I'm hopeful for  
BillT : 5/19/2015 11:33 am : link
Kendrick Ellis. He needs to become the run stopping "2-down" DT that gives the Giants the opportunity to put their numerous pass rushers on the field. It's something he's shown he can do and he needs to do it for the Giants.

Thomas, Beason, Kennard. They have more promise than any group of LB we've had for a while. They could make life tough on opposing offenses.

Selvie, Ayers. Kiwi is gone and these are the leading candidates to replace him. Selvie was better than Kiwi last year and Ayers as well in limited reps. The LDE must at least be solid.

Cooper Taylor. He was doing as well if not better than any safety in camp last year. With Collins they could make the Giants safeties a very strong unit.
Nice to see some optimism around here  
gmen9892 : 5/19/2015 11:33 am : link
Every once in awhile amongst all the doom and gloom. Agree with most of what you said, and what others have said as well. If we can stay fairly healthy, for once, I think this team can do some serious damage.

Health is even more important on the defensive side with Beason, Prince, DRC and JPP. If those guys can stay healthy for the most part (meaning not missing extended, long periods of time), I think this defense has the talent to AT LEAST be average. Couple that with what this offense can be, and you have the makings for a very solid team.
RE: RE: isn't a bakers dozen 13?  
giants#1 : 5/19/2015 11:34 am : link
In comment 12292635 gidiefor said:
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Not 12?

With that said, I'm excited to see Moore with Spags as his DC. I think an overlooked aspect of the improved pass rush the last couple months of 2014 was the increased playing time for Moore. With a competent DC, I think we're looking at 8+ sacks from Moore in 2015.



giants in all fairness -- there are really 15 names up there including the two coaches and thirteen players i named -- but in theory I named the huber twelve player as two players - then # thirteen is both coaches


Actually, if you just split DRC/Prince you would've had your Bakers Dozen (excluding the coaches). :)
RE: LOL  
gidiefor : Mod : 5/19/2015 11:35 am : link
In comment 12292627 pjcas18 said:
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I'm not saying it's not true, but La'el Collins was a UDFA, but Landon Collins is underrated?

Landon Collins is probably the most under-rated player ever coming out of a draft.

he was the first pick of the second round. he was the 33rd player selected. not too much room for being the most underrated.


pj - La'el Collins was not under-rated - he was red flagged due to other that football influence

Landon Collins should have been a top ten pick and was not red-flagged -- he was miscast as an only in the box safety with limited skills -- which is bullspit
I will be watching our LBs all season  
George : 5/19/2015 11:37 am : link
I suspect that's where we will win or lose many of our games. If Kennard and Beason are healthy all season and play with the ability they've shown in the past, I'm actually optimistic about making the playoffs in 2015. But if not, I can't see us being anything more than a 7-win team, at best.
RE: RE: LOL  
pjcas18 : 5/19/2015 11:40 am : link
In comment 12292643 gidiefor said:
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In comment 12292627 pjcas18 said:


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I'm not saying it's not true, but La'el Collins was a UDFA, but Landon Collins is underrated?

Landon Collins is probably the most under-rated player ever coming out of a draft.

he was the first pick of the second round. he was the 33rd player selected. not too much room for being the most underrated.



pj - La'el Collins was not under-rated - he was red flagged due to other that football influence

Landon Collins should have been a top ten pick and was not red-flagged -- he was miscast as an only in the box safety with limited skills -- which is bullspit


fair enough, but you're still allotting 23 or so spots as the most underrated player. I think that's too little.

he went 33 and you're saying he should have been top 10.

I'm pretty sure there's some hyperbole there and there will be a player drafted in the 4th or 5th round that has 1st round talent like a Richard Sherman that better meets the superlative.
pj  
gidiefor : Mod : 5/19/2015 11:42 am : link
time will tell in that regard -- but I see Collins at a pro bowl type player and a team captain -- and I see it happening fairly quickly
Great write-up on Eli  
Southern Man : 5/19/2015 11:44 am : link
I could not have put it better.
tx for the list  
hitdog42 : 5/19/2015 11:50 am : link
tough for me to get excited about andre Williams. unless we find our 2008 OL
RE: tx for the list  
gidiefor : Mod : 5/19/2015 11:57 am : link
In comment 12292690 hitdog42 said:
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tough for me to get excited about andre Williams. unless we find our 2008 OL


Fair enough hitdog -- but I maintain this line has taken on the piece/spark it needed to become special -- and I believes this will happen -- but as a premise I believe you are correct -- Williams needs a line to run behind to become exciting
You're underrating Odi  
KWALL2 : 5/19/2015 12:14 pm : link
His impact will be HUGE. With our current depth at DE, he'll see the field early and often.
RE: You're underrating Odi  
gidiefor : Mod : 5/19/2015 12:16 pm : link
In comment 12292736 KWALL2 said:
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His impact will be HUGE. With our current depth at DE, he'll see the field early and often.


KWALL - I have no problem with that - I sure hope that's the case
Thank you for that list  
Still a Sam Huff fan : 5/19/2015 12:19 pm : link
I agree with so much of it. I'd add another factor - a big one IMO. It isn't Spags as much as the loss of Fewell.
We were terrible against the run. True. But we we're most terrible against the run with the lack of contain. I can still see Wilson of Seattle, needing three yards for a first down and going around end with absolutely nobody to stop him for twenty or thirty yards. He did it again and again. It was sickening. Then other QB's did it again and again. THAT WILL END WITH SPAGS.
I will list 12 guys  
djm : 5/19/2015 12:23 pm : link
that aren't necessarily house hold names but guys I can't wait to see when the summer rolls around:

Devon Kennard
Kerry Wynn
Landon Collins
Ereck Flowers
Double O
Larry Donnell
Shane Vereen (he's known but now he's in a new system)
Ruben Randle ( very curious about this kid)
Jon Hankins (good player may be great player still young)
Damontre Moore
Andre Williams
Richburg
Pugh


There's a lot of young talent on this team. Think about this roster...find one position that is littered or even sprinkled with aging talent. You can't outside of maybe MLB and Kennard may be the future Mike anyway...

The Giants are clearly on the way up unless you're convinced that this regime can't identify, nurture and coach up young talent. I for think they still can and will.
I talked myself into Odi  
KWALL2 : 5/19/2015 12:24 pm : link
dominating the NFL early! At this point I have no doubt he will take over the NFC east.

Like the stuff on Harris. Agree about him making an impact with the short passing game. He is a very strong runner. They need to get him the ball on screens. I think they will use him like the OC used WR Cobb a few years back in GB. Cobb had a ton of behind the LOS stuff. They should do the same with Harris.
left out a lot of additional players  
djm : 5/19/2015 12:24 pm : link
i'm very pumped about this team and I love where they are headed.
and being as objective as I can possibly be  
djm : 5/19/2015 12:30 pm : link
from a pure FF standpoint, and this is FF we're talking about....I rarely if ever let NYG loyalties blind my FF analysis..I rarely even draft NYG players even if I want to.

Eli to Beckham has a chance to be Brady - Moss or Steve Young to Rice. It could be THAT good in 2015. It was nearly that good last year in 12 games and that offense was a work in progress to say the least.

If I am trying to land a steal at QB I am going with Eli. He might have a special season with Beckham. The signs are there. 2nd year in this offense one that saw Eli play well in year one despite some growing pains. Mega star at WR. Decent options at TE and 2WR. Improved OL but the running game probably won't vulture much of the offense so the Giants will have to throw to compete. And throw they will.

Eli to Beckham could be historically good this season. That's not a stretch if you watched this team last year.
You freakin' doom and gloomers  
Doomster : 5/19/2015 12:46 pm : link
better knock....I'm sick of hearing that crap!
They're building the talent foundation  
JonC : 5/19/2015 12:57 pm : link
and slowly ascending. If the defense gels, if the OL gels, and they stay healthy as a team for a change, they could make a push for 10 wins and a playoff spot this season.

But, they're another offseason of infusion from contender imv. Need more talent at FS, nickel CB, need youngsters like Odi, Flowers, and Collins to quickly develop and make an impact.

It's the lack of impact at DE, WR (other than OB), and losing the battles on both sides of the LOS that must turned around in order for the team to ascend more quickly.
Good post Gidie  
nicky43 : 5/19/2015 1:20 pm : link
I agree with almost all of what your said about these exciting players, however, you may be a bit to 'gidie' for the o-line. Yes, we have made some improvements there but we are still one injury away from it being in bad shape. And that is assuming that Richburgh turns out to be a good center (still unproven) and Flowers can come in a be a great starting RT at this level. We need Beatty and Schwartz to stay healthy too.

You left out the one thing that excites me the most about this team and that is our HC Tom. I don't believe there is a coach in the league as dedicated to his craft and improving it as TC is. With him leading this team I will always feel like we have a shot to win.
RE: Good post Gidie  
gidiefor : Mod : 5/19/2015 1:37 pm : link
In comment 12292871 nicky43 said:
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I agree with almost all of what your said about these exciting players, however, you may be a bit to 'gidie' for the o-line. Yes, we have made some improvements there but we are still one injury away from it being in bad shape. And that is assuming that Richburgh turns out to be a good center (still unproven) and Flowers can come in a be a great starting RT at this level. We need Beatty and Schwartz to stay healthy too.

You left out the one thing that excites me the most about this team and that is our HC Tom. I don't believe there is a coach in the league as dedicated to his craft and improving it as TC is. With him leading this team I will always feel like we have a shot to win.


nicky -- Good point about Tom Coughlin - and I concur with you -- I agree with you about the injury thing -- however -- we've had league leading injury lists for two years running and hopefully that turns around this year -- Richburg will be fine : )
RE: RE: Good post Gidie  
nicky43 : 5/19/2015 1:48 pm : link
In comment 12292897 gidiefor said:
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I agree with almost all of what your said about these exciting players, however, you may be a bit to 'gidie' for the o-line. Yes, we have made some improvements there but we are still one injury away from it being in bad shape. And that is assuming that Richburgh turns out to be a good center (still unproven) and Flowers can come in a be a great starting RT at this level. We need Beatty and Schwartz to stay healthy too.

You left out the one thing that excites me the most about this team and that is our HC Tom. I don't believe there is a coach in the league as dedicated to his craft and improving it as TC is. With him leading this team I will always feel like we have a shot to win.



nicky -- Good point about Tom Coughlin - and I concur with you -- I agree with you about the injury thing -- however -- we've had league leading injury lists for two years running and hopefully that turns around this year -- Richburg will be fine : )


I too like to think the odds are in favor of us having a healthy year because I don't believe something the Giants are doing wrong is causing all these injuries. I also agree that Richbugh should be ok. You are so right about how bad we have been missing the short game Vereen can bring us too. It will be exciting to see the many ways they can use him.



Nice job Gidie...  
Mike in Philly : 5/19/2015 2:13 pm : link
I feel your optimism! First game I want smack Dallas to last year and make a statement. I am so sick and tired of this being referred to as an Eagles/Cowboys division.
The OL is the key for me  
Rudy5757 : 5/19/2015 2:36 pm : link
Is Richburg going to be an upgrade over Walton? Pugh should be better than Richburg was at LG but thats still a question. Flowers should be better than the 2014 Pugh at RT as Pugh was not that good. Schwartz should be improved over jerry as well. On paper we should see a huge jump in the quality of the OL but injuries will be the deciding factor.
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Klaatu : 5/19/2015 3:11 pm : link


Well done, my son.
Great List!  
KeoweeFan : 5/19/2015 3:13 pm : link
I probably would have created a "top 10" and left out Donnell and Williams. I am a fan of both but I don't see them in the (very subjective) class as the others. To me, both are on a cusp; they need a season (or preseason) to see which way they will fall.
RE: Randle  
JonC : 5/19/2015 3:16 pm : link
If we get the version that played highly motivated and with strong results versus the Rams, that's living up to billing.

However, much of the rest of the time he's making basic fundamental errors game in and out, frustrating the coaches, and getting himself benched. If he indeed turned the light bulb on versus the Rams, now he must keep it on. THEN, you've got yourself an above average NFL WR (who will probably price himself off the team).
RE: The OL is the key for me  
gmen9892 : 5/19/2015 3:20 pm : link
In comment 12293030 Rudy5757 said:
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Is Richburg going to be an upgrade over Walton? Pugh should be better than Richburg was at LG but thats still a question. Flowers should be better than the 2014 Pugh at RT as Pugh was not that good. Schwartz should be improved over jerry as well. On paper we should see a huge jump in the quality of the OL but injuries will be the deciding factor.


If Richburg isnt an upgrade over Walton, then Richburg would be a huge bust of a draft-pick. He was a 2nd round draft-pick and was touted as one of the best C's (if not the best) in last years draft. Walton was one of the worst C's in the league last year. Would be VERY disappointing if Richburg wasnt a big improvement over Walton right away.
RE: RE: Good job Gidie...  
Joe in CT : 5/19/2015 4:46 pm : link
In comment 12292572 Big Blue '56 said:
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love your list, only player I would like to add to it is Kennard, think we are going to start seeing the return of some much better LB play. Also looking forward to what Thomas brings to the table.



Joe, great call on Kennard..I'm excited(and hopeful) to watch his improvement under Spags


Thanks Doc, missing our Albany get-togethers. Hope you are well. No doubt I am looking forward to much improved LB play. Think between Kennard the FAs we brought in lot's to be excited about.
RE: RE: Good job Gidie...  
Joe in CT : 5/19/2015 4:48 pm : link
In comment 12292589 gidiefor said:
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love your list, only player I would like to add to it is Kennard, think we are going to start seeing the return of some much better LB play. Also looking forward to what Thomas brings to the table.



Good job yourself Joe -- I forgot Kennard. In my mind the LBs do not need to be spectacular -- they just need to be adequate -- but Kennard has shown flashes that he may be real special and therefore another exciting player - you are adding fuel to my fire - Yeah BabY!!


Thanks Gidie! It's been a while since our time in Albany. I agree LBs don't have to be spectacular, just solid mediocre would help make the DEF unit much improved. I think this group can do that providing most of them stay healthy.
If there's an undervalued guy to this board, or much of it,  
BlueLou : 5/19/2015 5:01 pm : link
it's what Richburg might do at OC in year 2 to solidify the OL. I didn't think the guy was strong enough to start year 1 in this league, and he was passable at NOT his 1st position. So I am looking forward to year 2 of WR.

Although I see he's mentioned in at least one response to the OP, good.
nice gidie.  
Zig in CT : 5/19/2015 5:37 pm : link
and to think you were able to bring some positivity without mentioning Cruz or Beason or Kennard or Randle or one of the new linebackers I(never heard of either one of them but never heard of Boley either) or whover wins the deep safety spot. As others have mentioned, there are lots of others that might surprise and make the 53 and practice squad. We have lots to look forward to and see how it shakes out. Thanks for the good karma gidie. Our injury situation the last two years can use it. Go giants!

Not to miller, but did you ever go to Sardinia or Corsica? I missed it if you did.
RE: nice gidie.  
gidiefor : Mod : 5/19/2015 5:49 pm : link
In comment 12293276 Zig in CT said:
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and to think you were able to bring some positivity without mentioning Cruz or Beason or Kennard or Randle or one of the new linebackers I(never heard of either one of them but never heard of Boley either) or whover wins the deep safety spot. As others have mentioned, there are lots of others that might surprise and make the 53 and practice squad. We have lots to look forward to and see how it shakes out. Thanks for the good karma gidie. Our injury situation the last two years can use it. Go giants!

Not to miller, but did you ever go to Sardinia or Corsica? I missed it if you did.


Thanks Zig,

I LoLed because I actually rewrote this piece for Eric and added Kennard and Coughlin more prominently because I thought they were good points of hope.

I purposely did not put in players that had serious injury issues or intelligence or work ethic issues.

We had to cancel our plans to go to Sardinia -- it was a bummer but other things came up with the family.

We are actually planning a trip to Tuscany this September which I hope to finalize this week.

I think that the DT and MLB positions are key for us.  
yatqb : 5/19/2015 6:09 pm : link
If Ellis, Bromley and perhaps Hamilton can support Hankins in clogging the middle and Beason stays healthy, JPP and our other DEs won't have to bust inside and leave the outside so exposed for pistol plays. Players have to have faith in their teammates and take care of their own assignments in order for a defense to be effective, and that didn't occur last year.
Tuscany sounds awesome.  
Zig in CT : 5/19/2015 7:09 pm : link
As much as we've been thinking about the amalfi coast, I want to go to too many places. I was meant to win the lottery. Enjoy gidie!
Zig  
gidiefor : Mod : 5/19/2015 7:12 pm : link
the thing that tipped the balance this year was the Terme's -- My wife is burnt this year and wants some spa time -- Tuscany has a few spa areas - and it mixes our love of art, history, food and quaint rural scenery very well
Nice read !  
Bluesbreaker : 5/19/2015 7:22 pm : link
I agree that Randle has turned the page I think due in
part to OBJ .
The run game will emerge with Flowers and hopefully
a healthy Swartz .
Will Bromely be the 3rd rounder that will improve the
rotation while adding youth .
Eli poised for a Big Year with Vereen as a perfect check
down back .
Donnell continues to improve a solves his ball security
issues . With to stud Corners and a Stud young saety
and two promising young Players with Taylor and Behre .
McBride looked to be a decent slot CB .
Harries is a stud special all around special teamer
weatherford needs to bounce back and Brown be solid .
We have Great coaches who know what it takes to get
there . I am amped up for this season .!!!
RE: Zig  
yatqb : 5/19/2015 7:36 pm : link
In comment 12293341 gidiefor said:
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the thing that tipped the balance this year was the Terme's -- My wife is burnt this year and wants some spa time -- Tuscany has a few spa areas - and it mixes our love of art, history, food and quaint rural scenery very well


The wife and I loved Tuscany. Enjoy, gidiefor!
RE: You freakin' doom and gloomers  
Boy Cord : 5/19/2015 10:12 pm : link
In comment 12292795 Doomster said:
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better knock....I'm sick of hearing that crap!


Doomster. I'm waiting for your rebuttal!
References to Albany  
Montreal Man : 5/20/2015 10:16 am : link
I've never met so many people I would love to have as real friends as I've met in Albany and I hope they feel somewhat the same about me. The only hindrance is geography.

I miss you all and wish there was a way we could gather somewhere, somehow at training camps, sit, bullshit, watch the team, have a few beers and go home happy.
Whoa  
OC2.0 : 5/20/2015 1:12 pm : link
Lol, somebody had sunshine & eggs this morning.

I'm with you though. Injuries are the wildcard. Maybe we'll catch a break for once.
Amen!  
ZGiants98 : 5/20/2015 1:37 pm : link
I'm very excited for this upcoming season.
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