@BobGlauber: NFL owners have approved competition committee's proposal to change extra points. PAT kick at 15, 2-pt conversion at 2, defense can score.
to have a major impact on the game. I would rather see my team tie and go to OT rather than lose on a missed XP. If they wanted the 2 point play to be more involved they should have just eliminated the kick to make everyone go for 2.
This is not fixing the game in any way so why bother? they need to worry about fixing other issues in the game rather than the extra point. The league was also looking to protect players more, imo this will cause more injuries with more teams going to 2 point plays. TC always says how violent the goalline plays are and I agree.
Pointless rule that will probably be changed back once a few teams lose because of a missed XP. this does not make the game better or more exciting. A kick is not exciting.
The extra point WAS supposed to be a reward for scoring a TD.
If kicks are snapped from the 15 so in essence a 32 yd. PAT for 1 point why didnt they make the 2 = or> challenging by moving the 2 pointer to the 15, or even 10?
So now whether you have an 80 or a 20 yd. drive your reward for 6 can more easily be 2 instead of 1.
High powered balanced offenses could easily put up an extra 4-6 points a game.
NFL is leading to Arena Football II, the outdoor division.
but can't the D only score if they return the 2-point attempt?
just googled that question and the first thing that came up is the Eagles' website, which says, no, the D can score on either:
"On Tuesday, NFL owners voted to accept the league’s competition committee recommendation plan for renewed PAT rules. There will be two changes to the preexisting rules.
1. Extra points will be moved from the 2-yard line to the 15-yard line.
2. The defense can now return a turnover on a PAT or two-point conversion attempt.
A “touchdown” scored by the defense in either scenario will result in two points."
This rule change is no big deal either way for me.
I would rather that they get rid of the ability to spike the ball. That always bothered me...Make a team throw the ball. That would help the D and make the game more exciting, knowing that the offense can't just spike it for a clock stoppage.
Once you get past the traditionalist stuff and memories of the good ole days.
Many more goalline plays (which are the most exciting) and field goals with some sense of excitement.
We'll look back at the traditional extra point in a few years and wonder why we went so long with such a boring play built into the flow of an otherwise exciting game.
Does this mean that until this year if the offense ran a pass on a 2 point play and the defender intercepted, it couldn't be returned for 6? If so, I had no idea and it doesn't make sense.
Does this mean that until this year if the offense ran a pass on a 2 point play and the defender intercepted, it couldn't be returned for 6? If so, I had no idea and it doesn't make sense.
No it couldn't. And it still can't: it can be returned for 2. It would be dumb if the defense could score more points than the offense.
no upside to this rule of any kind. There are other rule changes over the past years that I hate more, but at least I can see the reason for it (mostly player saftey rule changes). At least there I can say, OK, even though I don't agree with it there is at least a reason.
I see no way that this improves the game, other than trying to create more "exciting" situations. Teams losing a game because of a missed kick hardly fits that fucking bill. Goodell has to go.
And yes, I understand the relationship of Commissioner VS ownership, so spare me that tired ridiculous fucking lecture.
This is not fixing the game in any way so why bother? they need to worry about fixing other issues in the game rather than the extra point. The league was also looking to protect players more, imo this will cause more injuries with more teams going to 2 point plays. TC always says how violent the goalline plays are and I agree.
Pointless rule that will probably be changed back once a few teams lose because of a missed XP. this does not make the game better or more exciting. A kick is not exciting.
If kicks are snapped from the 15 so in essence a 32 yd. PAT for 1 point why didnt they make the 2 = or> challenging by moving the 2 pointer to the 15, or even 10?
So now whether you have an 80 or a 20 yd. drive your reward for 6 can more easily be 2 instead of 1.
High powered balanced offenses could easily put up an extra 4-6 points a game.
NFL is leading to Arena Football II, the outdoor division.
just googled that question and the first thing that came up is the Eagles' website, which says, no, the D can score on either:
"On Tuesday, NFL owners voted to accept the league’s competition committee recommendation plan for renewed PAT rules. There will be two changes to the preexisting rules.
1. Extra points will be moved from the 2-yard line to the 15-yard line.
2. The defense can now return a turnover on a PAT or two-point conversion attempt.
A “touchdown” scored by the defense in either scenario will result in two points."
FMIC - look at Defenderdawg's 6:12 post. Not sure if that guy from CSN has it right...
I would rather that they get rid of the ability to spike the ball. That always bothered me...Make a team throw the ball. That would help the D and make the game more exciting, knowing that the offense can't just spike it for a clock stoppage.
Many more goalline plays (which are the most exciting) and field goals with some sense of excitement.
We'll look back at the traditional extra point in a few years and wonder why we went so long with such a boring play built into the flow of an otherwise exciting game.
Great decision. Very happy about this.
No it couldn't. And it still can't: it can be returned for 2. It would be dumb if the defense could score more points than the offense.
I see no way that this improves the game, other than trying to create more "exciting" situations. Teams losing a game because of a missed kick hardly fits that fucking bill. Goodell has to go.
And yes, I understand the relationship of Commissioner VS ownership, so spare me that tired ridiculous fucking lecture.