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NFT: Game 3: New York Rangers @ Tampa Bay Lightning Game Thread

BrettNYG10 : 5/20/2015 7:52 am
#lgr
After an embarrassing effort on Monday...  
Neckbone1333 : 5/20/2015 8:32 am : link
I think we come out crisp tonight. I think Henrik is solid tonight .
Well, best cast happened out West last night.  
arcarsenal : 5/20/2015 8:37 am : link
Super long game and Chicago won to tie the series.

As far as the Rangers, absolutely have to win one in Tampa here at minimum. Get it out of the way tonight so that Friday is slightly less tense and hang onto home ice.

I suspect the Rangers will be much more disciplined tonight. Hopefully the refs actually let the teams play a little bit.

#LGR
I think  
bigbluegc : 5/20/2015 8:41 am : link
Nash better start scoring actual points soon
Just win baby. I'm expecting Game 5 at MSG tied 2-2.  
Victor in CT : 5/20/2015 8:43 am : link
Get back to being a disciplined team. And as AV said in Pittsburgh, "the big boys need to show up in their big boy pants"
Best case*  
arcarsenal : 5/20/2015 8:44 am : link
Not cast.
Side Note re Annaheim  
Percy : 5/20/2015 8:45 am : link
Rangers just have to be way better tonight. Just checking: does anyone else think, as I do, that the Ducks' players are simply gigantic compared to the Blackhawks' players? (Sometimes looks flat-out unfair, men against boys, they are so huge. Even so, Chicago showed yesterday, in an extremely long, tough game, that it's grit and talent that can make the difference.)
Brassard needs to keep  
bigbluehoya : 5/20/2015 8:46 am : link
The fucking blade of his stick on the ice at all times
Sorry!  
Percy : 5/20/2015 8:48 am : link
(Meant "Anaheim.")
Yes, Anaheim has a size advantage against Chicago.  
arcarsenal : 5/20/2015 8:51 am : link
They play a heavier, more physical game. Chicago is built more like the Rangers are with their strength being their skill and ability to skate. We're deeper defensively (deeper in general, really) and have a better goaltender but the Hawks have better top end talent.
RE: I think  
schabadoo : 5/20/2015 8:56 am : link
In comment 12293952 bigbluegc said:
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Nash better start scoring actual points soon


MSL seems the bigger concern. Nash has turned into Brian Boyle, but MSL seems like a double-agent sabotaging from the inside.
Tonight the boys get back on track  
NYerInMA : 5/20/2015 9:06 am : link
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RE: RE: I think  
BrettNYG10 : 5/20/2015 9:06 am : link
In comment 12293965 schabadoo said:
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In comment 12293952 bigbluegc said:


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Nash better start scoring actual points soon



MSL seems the bigger concern. Nash has turned into Brian Boyle, but MSL seems like a double-agent sabotaging from the inside.


I agree. I joked that he was re-living his glory days and was once again the best player on the ice for the Lightning the other night.
Clean up all the bullshit  
gmen9892 : 5/20/2015 9:14 am : link
That went out last game and I think we win tonight. Stay out of the box. No more sloppy turnovers. We are still the better team. This team is resilient and I like that McD called the team out after last game. Come back sharp tonight and take back home-ice advantage.
RE: Just win baby. I'm expecting Game 5 at MSG tied 2-2.  
Ron Johnson : 5/20/2015 9:16 am : link
In comment 12293953 Victor in CT said:
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Get back to being a disciplined team. And as AV said in Pittsburgh, "the big boys need to show up in their big boy pants"



does this mean Marty is benched?

#LFGR


I'm with Ron Johnson.  
BrettNYG10 : 5/20/2015 9:17 am : link
Bench the short people.
RE: RE: RE: I think  
MetsAreBack : 5/20/2015 9:54 am : link
In comment 12293971 BrettNYG10 said:
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I joked that he was re-living his glory days and was once again the best player on the ice for the Lightning the other night.



Don't quit your day job. Crickets, bro.


Still feel like the Beard should be getting more burn this postseason, but i'll guess we'll give Brettsky -yet- another shot tonight.
RE: RE: Just win baby. I'm expecting Game 5 at MSG tied 2-2.  
Victor in CT : 5/20/2015 9:54 am : link
In comment 12293976 Ron Johnson said:
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In comment 12293953 Victor in CT said:


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Get back to being a disciplined team. And as AV said in Pittsburgh, "the big boys need to show up in their big boy pants"




does this mean Marty is benched?

#LFGR



One can only hope
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BrettNYG10 : 5/20/2015 9:54 am : link
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GDI Victor, get out the way.  
BrettNYG10 : 5/20/2015 9:54 am : link
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RE: RE: RE: RE: I think  
redbeard : 5/20/2015 10:26 am : link
In comment 12294016 MetsAreBack said:
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In comment 12293971 BrettNYG10 said:


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I joked that he was re-living his glory days and was once again the best player on the ice for the Lightning the other night.




Don't quit your day job. Crickets, bro.


Still feel like the Beard should be getting more burn this postseason, but i'll guess we'll give Brettsky -yet- another shot tonight.



Logged on to BBI at 8 this morning all amped for the morning skate and Brettsky was already out on the ice


Say what you want...but the kid is dedicated
Game threes have been about as kind to us  
Greg from LI : 5/20/2015 10:32 am : link
as game twos have been brutal, so we've got that going for us.
RE: Game threes have been about as kind to us  
Victor in CT : 5/20/2015 10:44 am : link
In comment 12294100 Greg from LI said:
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as game twos have been brutal, so we've got that going for us.


which is nice
Hopefully the awful game 2  
Kyle in NY : 5/20/2015 10:52 am : link
and the recognition of it afterwards leads to a well played game 3.

Time for Nash to score. I don't have a lot of hope for Marty, guy is 40 years old. But it's still there for Nash physically. Now is the time.
when series tied 1-1  
MetsAreBack : 5/20/2015 10:52 am : link
Washington - Loss
Pittsburgh - Win

2014:
Pittsburgh - Loss
Philly - Win

2013: not applicable

2012:
NJ - Win
Washington - 3OT Win (by the way, Duncan Keith played 50 minutes last night ... holy shit)
Ottawa - Win


So 5-2... not too shabby. None of us wants a must win game Friday on the road against a team we have to be struggling for confidence against at this point (1-9 vs Bishop) - tonight is huge.
2-4 in game 3  
MetsAreBack : 5/20/2015 10:55 am : link
when series is 2-0 or 0-2 after two games.

So 7-6 overall since 2011 in game 3.

All of which is obviously irrelevant as far as tonight goes. We need to pot 4 - i dont care who scores, but obviously its tough to improve offense efficiency without your best players contributing.

AV called them out after game 2 - said Johnson & TB's big boys have elevated their games... ours need to now too. And that includes some of our "offensive Defensemen" in that too (looking at you, Yandle).
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arcarsenal : 5/20/2015 11:04 am : link
We can win if we only score 2-3 times. Just stay out of the box.

Tampa really doesn't scare me 5v5.
nope, me either  
Greg from LI : 5/20/2015 11:10 am : link
Don't give them a bunch of power plays and the Rangers should win.
will be interesting to see how venue plays a role in this thing though  
MetsAreBack : 5/20/2015 11:13 am : link
when it comes to the 5x5.. Cooper can get the matchups he wants now and their crowd (helped by all the audio help Tampa likes to pump in) will give them energy.

Maybe we can win 3-2 or something.... but i really, really doubt we can win 2-1 again against a team with this much firepower. When you give the PPs and odd man rushes... they bury them.
Let's Go Rangers!!!  
MadPlaid : 5/20/2015 12:23 pm : link
Clap Clap ClapClapClap!!!
Just bought a pair of tix.  
Miami_JintsFan : 5/20/2015 12:24 pm : link
Heading to Tampa as soon as my son gets off the bus. Cant wait to see his face when I tell him what we're doing tonight!
Good luck my Giants fan brethren who root  
pjcas18 : 5/20/2015 12:35 pm : link
for a different hockey team.

I feel the Rangers come out like a mad hornet tonight and get an early lead. they will steamroll the Lightning.

Hopefully for their sake astronaut man doesn't get close to Henrik, he got in Price's head.

Larry Brooks wrote  
bluesince56 : 5/20/2015 12:50 pm : link
in the NY Post today. If Nash doesn't start scoring Rangers are done. I tend to agree with that.
RE: Good luck my Giants fan brethren who root  
BrettNYG10 : 5/20/2015 12:54 pm : link
In comment 12294312 pjcas18 said:
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for a different hockey team.

I feel the Rangers come out like a mad hornet tonight and get an early lead. they will steamroll the Lightning.

Hopefully for their sake astronaut man doesn't get close to Henrik, he got in Price's head.



Just bet my entire net worth on the Lightning tonight. Thanks for getting me rich, pj, but fuck you for ruining my hockey team!
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arcarsenal : 5/20/2015 12:57 pm : link
The Rangers just aren't going to steamroll anyone ever in these playoffs. If they win, it'll be by 1 goal again.

I'd bet you on the game.  
pjcas18 : 5/20/2015 1:00 pm : link
but gambling is illegal at BBI and I never slice.

Seriously, I'll wager on the game and give you a goal, not being a douche. I think the Rangers win this one (and might not lose again this series).

The only question I have is astronaut man/woman.

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arcarsenal : 5/20/2015 1:02 pm : link
I think the Rangers will win too. I just know it won't be by more than a goal.

3-2.
4-1 Rangers  
Greg from LI : 5/20/2015 1:03 pm : link
Yeah, I said it.
RE: Larry Brooks wrote  
Victor in CT : 5/20/2015 1:07 pm : link
In comment 12294340 bluesince56 said:
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in the NY Post today. If Nash doesn't start scoring Rangers are done. I tend to agree with that.


When I wrote here a month ago that he should have called out Nash instead of Kreider I was crucified by nearly everyone. Even emailed that thought to Larry. It's a little fucking late, the guy is a proven playoff flop. 7 goals in 55 career games. Dave Anderchuck was called Anderchoke for years and he scored at twice the per game rate of Nash, and at 68% of his own regular season pace. Mike Keenan said he couldn't win with Mike Gartner who scored at 72% of his regular season rate. Nash scores at 29% of his regular season pace.
I don't think the Rangers win  
Anakim : 5/20/2015 1:09 pm : link
Oh no, I jinxed the Lightning...
RE: I'd bet you on the game.  
BrettNYG10 : 5/20/2015 1:11 pm : link
In comment 12294363 pjcas18 said:
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but gambling is illegal at BBI and I never slice.

Seriously, I'll wager on the game and give you a goal, not being a douche. I think the Rangers win this one (and might not lose again this series).

The only question I have is astronaut man/woman.


Lol - there were three times in my life I was close to betting on my team but decided against it - 2011 when the Giants lost to the Redskins and were at almost 100-1 odds for the Super Bowl, last year when the Rangers were down 3-1 to the Penguins, and this year when down 3-1 to the Caps. I don't know why I didn't pull the trigger then since I expected losses in those scenarios and I perceived the risk/reward as asymmetrical in my favor, but I certainly don't bet on my team when I actually think they'll win - it only exacerbates the damage.

So no, go fuck yourself, pj.

I also don't really believe in jinxes/superstitions, etc.
The Rangers can..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 5/20/2015 1:13 pm : link
and have won without Nash scoring, but it isn't ideal. What I don't get is that he gets 1-2 breakaways or semi-breakaways every game and just can't finish.

Nash does a lot of the little things to help, though. I'm not seeing any of that out of MSL right now.

If Nash doesn't score, but he's working for the puck, we still have Stepan, Kreider and Brassard who have stepped up.

But a Nash goal would be damn nice!
BTW..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 5/20/2015 1:14 pm : link
if they call penalties everytime a TB player goes to the ice and ignore when Rangers have the puck and get tripped, it will be extremely difficult to win. Their PP is clicking right now.
LOL  
pjcas18 : 5/20/2015 1:15 pm : link
I never bet on my team.

Every year my company has business event in Vegas and I bet every year on the Patriots to win the SB. Finally paid off.

I would never bet on my team unless it was a hedge.

I don't believe in jinxes either, but I do get a little superstitious (or a little stitous as Eli says)
RE: BTW..  
NYerInMA : 5/20/2015 1:18 pm : link
In comment 12294381 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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if they call penalties everytime a TB player goes to the ice and ignore when Rangers have the puck and get tripped, it will be extremely difficult to win. Their PP is clicking right now.


I feel like the refs call tripping every time a player goes down in general, regardless of whether they were actually tripped. I know the plays happen at high speed but it seems like the refs drop the ball on those calls a lot.
RE: The Rangers can..  
arcarsenal : 5/20/2015 1:19 pm : link
In comment 12294380 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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and have won without Nash scoring, but it isn't ideal. What I don't get is that he gets 1-2 breakaways or semi-breakaways every game and just can't finish.

Nash does a lot of the little things to help, though. I'm not seeing any of that out of MSL right now.

If Nash doesn't score, but he's working for the puck, we still have Stepan, Kreider and Brassard who have stepped up.

But a Nash goal would be damn nice!


It's just annoying because they're chances we watched him convert on all year long but as soon as he gets those same ones in the playoffs, he can never bury it.

Rick Nash with a clear path to the goalie was almost an automatic goal throughout most of the regular season. Now? It's a sure bet he will get stopped.
I don't mind..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 5/20/2015 1:20 pm : link
the tripping calls. What I don't like is the lack of consistency. The Rangers have been called for a few penalties when guys have gone down with little or no contact while a Ranger driving to the net was taken down with no call.

Also, the Rangers being tripped on the boards is getting almost comical.
arc..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 5/20/2015 1:21 pm : link
I remember Nash hitting the side of the net last year in an empty net situation. If he can't score that, then breakaways are the equivalent of Lundquist getting a G!
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arcarsenal : 5/20/2015 1:27 pm : link
I don't know the guy personally so I'm not going to pretend I know what's going on in his head but I wish I knew what the problem was. Like.. is the guy just so nervous on the big stage all of a sudden that he has no confidence? It has been too long for it to be just a coincidence. I don't know what explanation there really is.

I guess there are guys who rise to the occasion and are at their best in big spots and then there are guys like Nash.. who don't seem to ever embrace the big moment and deliver. He seems like a guy who would never trust himself to come through with a goal with everything on the line. But what the hell do I know.
I hate to use the "c" word about anyone, but:  
Victor in CT : 5/20/2015 1:30 pm : link
Same types of plays, missing empty nets, the only difference being that the stakes are higher, what else can you call it? It's not like he's St. Louis where he's pushing 40 and is done. He stopped scoring around game 65, just when the money starts to be seen on the table. Again.
Relax...... Nash is going to have a big game tonight  
MetsAreBack : 5/20/2015 1:33 pm : link















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arcarsenal : 5/20/2015 1:38 pm : link
I would have understood it his first year when we were still a Torts team and we went into the playoffs basically expecting him to carry the team offensively. It was a lot to ask of the guy regardless.

But last year and this year when we're a team with more scoring depth and he doesn't have to be THE GUY every night for us to win? It's not even like a monumental amount of pressure is on him to score every night.

Just give us.. something. More than a goal per SERIES isn't asking a whole lot..
Nash will be moved outta here  
Giants2012 : 5/20/2015 1:46 pm : link
if he fails to produce and the Rangers lose.

Sure will be a nice cap savings and at least one good player should come n return.

Hope Nash figures out how to score. No way this organization or fans forgive him if the Rangers lose and he fails to score more.
as frustrating as he can be...  
MetsAreBack : 5/20/2015 1:58 pm : link
not sure who you could possibly move him for? One of the bums on Toronto? Its not like elite scorers are made available.

And only reason we're a #1 seed is because of his regular season efforts.

These are the players Sather bet on -- better or worse -- hopefully he can get it going, and Hank can steal us a few more games in the meanwhile.

Besides, if they dealt him in the offseason we all know he's just going to pull a Gaborik for his new team and pot 15 next postseason elsewhere. Guys like this just need to get going... get their confidence going.... then... you ride guys like this to a Cup.

But man, can we just get this guy the fuck going please.
And how many teams can take on the $7.8 million cap hit?  
Victor in CT : 5/20/2015 2:01 pm : link
Nash will be near impossible to move.
I think a lot of it is  
jv : 5/20/2015 2:14 pm : link
that Nash is admittedly a streaky player. He's always said he's a streaky player. He's unfortunately fallen into a slump starting at the end of the regular season. Hopefully he can get on a scoring streak again because that would go a long way for the Rangers.
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arcarsenal : 5/20/2015 2:18 pm : link
I'd be more than fine with streakiness if we actually got a hot streak in the playoffs, like.. ever.

Seems like the only streaks we've seen from him during Spring time hockey are ice cold.
RE: And how many teams can take on the $7.8 million cap hit?  
Giants2012 : 5/20/2015 2:19 pm : link
In comment 12294455 Victor in CT said:
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Nash will be near impossible to move.


It's never going to be the full $7.8 million b/c something will come back in return.

Edmonton is potentially a good trading partner. Send them Nash and Talbot for Taylor Hall. Hall makes $6 million per year and they're going to draft McDavid. Think the Oilers have better shot at the playoffs with

McDavid & Hall

or

McDavid, Nash & Talbot

It would cost the Oilers approx. $2.9 million for that deal and save the Rangers $2.9 million and they get younger.

Also, Nash's contract expires two years before Hall's which may or may not appeal to Edmonton (or NY).

I'm sure I could find more potential deals. Everybody is tradable in the NHL.

RE: I think a lot of it is  
Victor in CT : 5/20/2015 2:20 pm : link
In comment 12294475 jv said:
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that Nash is admittedly a streaky player. He's always said he's a streaky player. He's unfortunately fallen into a slump starting at the end of the regular season. Hopefully he can get on a scoring streak again because that would go a long way for the Rangers.


A 33 game slump? That's almost half a season. Since March 1, 7 goals 33 games including playoffs. Which is far ahead of his lifetime playoff pace of 7 goals in 55 games.
RE: RE: And how many teams can take on the $7.8 million cap hit?  
Victor in CT : 5/20/2015 2:21 pm : link
In comment 12294484 Giants2012 said:
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In comment 12294455 Victor in CT said:


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Nash will be near impossible to move.



It's never going to be the full $7.8 million b/c something will come back in return.

Edmonton is potentially a good trading partner. Send them Nash and Talbot for Taylor Hall. Hall makes $6 million per year and they're going to draft McDavid. Think the Oilers have better shot at the playoffs with

McDavid & Hall

or

McDavid, Nash & Talbot

It would cost the Oilers approx. $2.9 million for that deal and save the Rangers $2.9 million and they get younger.

Also, Nash's contract expires two years before Hall's which may or may not appeal to Edmonton (or NY).

I'm sure I could find more potential deals. Everybody is tradable in the NHL.


I nominate you as Slats heir apparent! :-)
Look you guys have had a ridiculious number of 2-1 games  
The 12th Man : 5/20/2015 2:23 pm : link
It is not just Nash who is not scoring. Kreider has been very good and so has Brassard and Stepan. To me you need to get Hagelin and Hayes going. The Lightning is going to key on your best players like Nash, so you can live he does put it into the net so long as others pick up the slack. It is easier if Nash can put a few in the back of the net, but some of the pressure comes off him if a couple of your other guys come through. I think if others start scoring Nash's drought will end. Predicting St. Louis gets his 1st 2015 playoff goal tonight.
Babcock leaving the Red Wings  
The 12th Man : 5/20/2015 2:26 pm : link
Heading to the Leafs
RE: Look you guys have had a ridiculious number of 2-1 games  
Victor in CT : 5/20/2015 2:26 pm : link
In comment 12294492 The 12th Man said:
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It is not just Nash who is not scoring. Kreider has been very good and so has Brassard and Stepan. To me you need to get Hagelin and Hayes going. The Lightning is going to key on your best players like Nash, so you can live he does put it into the net so long as others pick up the slack. It is easier if Nash can put a few in the back of the net, but some of the pressure comes off him if a couple of your other guys come through. I think if others start scoring Nash's drought will end. Predicting St. Louis gets his 1st 2015 playoff goal tonight.


We know Hagelin is not a great goal scorer and it's not his role. Hayes is a rookie who they have gotten more out of than any of us could have expected. Don't blame a kid and a guy whose job is to skate, hound and agitate. Blame the veteran guy whose job it is to score.
Well I'd argue  
jv : 5/20/2015 2:29 pm : link
being a "streaky" player would indicate scoring streaks and droughts are more mental than anything. A scoring drought in the playoffs compounds the mental factor. A scoring drought in the playoffs in NY magnifies the effect even more.

Bottom line though, if he can't get anything going in this series then it's not going to happen. The ice is wide open and nobody is going to make him pay the price for going to those tough areas.
RE: Look you guys have had a ridiculious number of 2-1 games  
Giants2012 : 5/20/2015 2:31 pm : link
In comment 12294492 The 12th Man said:
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It is not just Nash who is not scoring. Kreider has been very good and so has Brassard and Stepan. To me you need to get Hagelin and Hayes going.


Hagelin and Haynes have given us more than we expected.

Both have driven to the net (unlike Nash)

Both have played very hard on the boards (shocked Hagelin has but he's been very tough on the board)

Both have back checked well

Hagelin has used his speed and forced himself in position to get a shot and sometimes we get a rebound.

Those two may not be lighting the lamp but they're working their tails off and creating more opportunities than one Rick Nash IMO.
I believe in Brett  
djm : 5/20/2015 2:31 pm : link
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Chiarelli is brand new  
pjcas18 : 5/20/2015 2:31 pm : link
in Edmonton as GM, from Boston, how do you know they're potentially a good trading partner?

Chiarelli fleeced Toronto in the Kessell trade and did well to acquire Seidenberg, but has been awful trading otherwise (IMO).

I like him as a GM, but trading is not his forte.



Not blaming anyone  
The 12th Man : 5/20/2015 2:33 pm : link
saying if you can get those guys going it will help. This is like basketball once the playoffs start the scoring becomes tougher. If you can pick up goals from Hayes, Hagelin, or Miller it takes some of the pressure off. Rangers need a game like Tampa had last game 6-2 and get a lot of these guys on the scoring sheet. This time of year is about confidence, Rangers offense needs a little of it.
Nash's game fell off  
Giants2012 : 5/20/2015 2:37 pm : link
when teams starting pressing for the playoffs and took the middle from him.

Nash likes to float freely into the middle, take his time, use his reach and score.

When teams take away the middle he's lost. He doesn't drive to the net, he can't skate freely, his reach loses the puck in traffic, he can't his time and he doesn't score.

It's not a streak or streaky. The guy doesn't adapt.
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arcarsenal : 5/20/2015 2:38 pm : link
I'd just like to see Nash play with some edge. Mix it up with someone a little bit. Hit someone harder rather than just finishing a check like you're obligated to do it and force your way into the crease and in front of the net. Make Bishop know you're there.

I'm not saying play reckless or take bad penalties but play like you give a damn and are determined to make something happen.
RE: Chiarelli is brand new  
Giants2012 : 5/20/2015 2:40 pm : link
In comment 12294503 pjcas18 said:
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in Edmonton as GM, from Boston, how do you know they're potentially a good trading partner?




Well I didn't have him on the phone nor did the same source that shared the Zucs info at the flying puck contract me but I though we have a debate being the topic came up. Kinda like having a debate about Flores at SS without the emotional tampons chiming in and tripping over their strings.
RE: Not blaming anyone  
BrettNYG10 : 5/20/2015 2:46 pm : link
In comment 12294506 The 12th Man said:
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saying if you can get those guys going it will help. This is like basketball once the playoffs start the scoring becomes tougher. If you can pick up goals from Hayes, Hagelin, or Miller it takes some of the pressure off. Rangers need a game like Tampa had last game 6-2 and get a lot of these guys on the scoring sheet. This time of year is about confidence, Rangers offense needs a little of it.


Miller's had so many chances - it's unbelievable he hasn't netted one.
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Giants2012 : 5/20/2015 2:49 pm : link
Miller certainly has had a lot of chances. He's actually creating chances which is great. He's also made a some Daniel Murphy type mistakes which make you shake your head (one step from an icing, throw the puck in the middle of your own end, etc).

He could be the difference. I like the kid.
2 of the Rangers top three goal scorers this year are Nash and MSL  
Greg from LI : 5/20/2015 2:56 pm : link
And three of the top five in points are those two and Zuccarello. So....yeah, scoring's been difficult. Outside of Stepan, Kreider and Brassard, no one has more than two goals.
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bigbluehoya : 5/20/2015 2:58 pm : link
In comment 12294515 arcarsenal said:
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I'd just like to see Nash play with some edge. Mix it up with someone a little bit. Hit someone harder rather than just finishing a check like you're obligated to do it and force your way into the crease and in front of the net. Make Bishop know you're there.

I'm not saying play reckless or take bad penalties but play like you give a damn and are determined to make something happen.


Not sure if it translated on TV Monday night, but he was flying, hitting, and finishing checks.

I do understand people's pent up frustration with the stats, but it has seems odd to me that the Nash-bashing from many fans peaked after game 2. He was not among our top 5 problems in the game.
28 goals and three players have 16 of them.  
BrettNYG10 : 5/20/2015 3:02 pm : link
The reason why the Nash criticism is peaking is because he missed a prime opportunity that could have tied the game and changed its complexion. It wasn't uncontested, but he had a nice opportunity.
The Nash criticism is peaking..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 5/20/2015 3:10 pm : link
because it is the Conference Finals and he's done squat from a scoring standpoint for three rounds.

His +/-, his checking, his board work and his ability to create chances ahs been impressive, but when you are the leading scorer on the team, it is expected you will score. Look at all the heat Gaborik took here, and then he leaves the Rangers and was very effective in the playoffs last year.

Nash isn't useless like MSL has been, but he is getting heat for not doing putting the puck in the net - at an alarmingly low rate.
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arcarsenal : 5/20/2015 3:13 pm : link
In comment 12294564 bigbluehoya said:
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In comment 12294515 arcarsenal said:


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I'd just like to see Nash play with some edge. Mix it up with someone a little bit. Hit someone harder rather than just finishing a check like you're obligated to do it and force your way into the crease and in front of the net. Make Bishop know you're there.

I'm not saying play reckless or take bad penalties but play like you give a damn and are determined to make something happen.



Not sure if it translated on TV Monday night, but he was flying, hitting, and finishing checks.

I do understand people's pent up frustration with the stats, but it has seems odd to me that the Nash-bashing from many fans peaked after game 2. He was not among our top 5 problems in the game.


But how long do we keep giving him a pass for just doing the other stuff. We can pay a player 2M per year to do what he's doing right now. Love that he's trying and I know he wants to score more than anyone here even realizes but we are firmly in "put up or shut up" territory now and the longer he fails to make an impact on the scoreboard, the louder the criticism is going to get.

It's past the point of excuses. Guy has to get it going already or else we're going to get eliminated. I don't think we can win 7 more playoff games without him having any impact in the way of point production. I just don't.
Rick Nash makes a ton of money because he scores goals  
Greg from LI : 5/20/2015 3:15 pm : link
His nice two-way play isn't what gets him that paycheck. I'm sympathetic to his plight, I know effort isn't the problem, but enough is enough - his team needs some production from him ASAP.
I'm not giving anyone a pass  
bigbluehoya : 5/20/2015 3:17 pm : link
My only point was that I too like bitch about things after a loss, and there were far bigger issues in Game 2 than Nash. That's all.

All of the things people are saying w/r/t Nash are deserved.

My frustration with Brassard's penalties and MSLs utter suckitude were greater in the aftermath of that game.
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arcarsenal : 5/20/2015 3:20 pm : link
There were certainly bigger issues, would just be nice to see him convert on the type of chance he had when it was still a 1 goal game for once in these playoffs. We saw him do it all year long.

Playing with better discipline tonight is obviously priority #1.
RE: Rick Nash makes a ton of money because he scores goals  
Victor in CT : 5/20/2015 3:26 pm : link
In comment 12294638 Greg from LI said:
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His nice two-way play isn't what gets him that paycheck. I'm sympathetic to his plight, I know effort isn't the problem, but enough is enough - his team needs some production from him ASAP.


BINGO!
went ahead of fixed this for you  
MetsAreBack : 5/20/2015 3:27 pm : link
In comment 12294674 arcarsenal said:
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Playing with better discipline and not tripping over our own feet... repeatedly... is obviously priority #1 tonight....
if someone was truly a self-hating Ranger fan  
Greg from LI : 5/20/2015 3:29 pm : link
they could probably put together a rather funny gag reel of MSL falling down in the playoffs and set it to Yakity Sax.
Greg - be sure to put his "effort"  
MetsAreBack : 5/20/2015 3:31 pm : link
on the beautiful feed from Hagelin 90 seconds into the game monday ... only to have it redirected ... back towards Hagelin in the corner... on the low-light reel.

It's sad to see. Richards was never this bad here.
Nope. Richards was just kind of neutral out there  
Greg from LI : 5/20/2015 3:34 pm : link
Didn't do anything particularly badly, didn't really contribute anything positive.

Marty's actively hurting the team with the constant turnovers, the falling down whenever anyone brushes up against him, the missing wide open nets. Has he won a single scrum for the puck on the boards in the postseason? If he has, I must have missed it.
I definitely remember Richards being absolutely terrible.  
BrettNYG10 : 5/20/2015 3:37 pm : link
Could barely handle the puck in the last two rounds.
perhaps  
Greg from LI : 5/20/2015 3:38 pm : link
I don't remember it though. I mostly remember Girardi looking like he was playing with a walker out there.
St. Louis is reminding me of Willie Mays with the Mets in the '73  
Victor in CT : 5/20/2015 3:38 pm : link
World Series. Sad to watch, flopping around. Clearly done.
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arcarsenal : 5/20/2015 3:39 pm : link
Richards was brutal in the 2013 playoffs. Especially against Boston. The guy was absolutely lost. He was missing the net by 5 feet and struggling to make routine passes.

For Torts to bench his buddy, you knew he had to be pitiful.

He wasn't as bad last year, he was pretty good in the first couple rounds but after the goal he scored in Game 1 vs MTL he totally fell off.
at least Torts did bench him  
Greg from LI : 5/20/2015 3:40 pm : link
AV won't do likewise.
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arcarsenal : 5/20/2015 3:42 pm : link
I at least partially get it right now given what the alternatives are but if MSL is still playing this poorly and Zuccarello makes it back, he's really the one who should sit.
....  
BrettNYG10 : 5/20/2015 3:48 pm : link
Yeah, if Zucc comes back, MSL should sit.

I wouldn't be surprised if that happens. I'd imagine AV regrets not going with Miller over Richards last year and doesn't want to repeat the mistake of holding out hope on an old fuck again.
agreed there  
Greg from LI : 5/20/2015 3:57 pm : link
But I really don't see what they possibly lose by replacing him with Lindberg or Bourque. It's not like they'll lose any offensive production. And I'm pretty sure Lindberg would play solid defense and manage to stay on his skates most of the time.
Hartford's competing for the Calder Cup.  
BrettNYG10 : 5/20/2015 3:59 pm : link
Fucking priorities, Greg.
We want the Cup.  
BrettNYG10 : 5/20/2015 4:01 pm : link
Derek Armstrong sighting!  
Greg from LI : 5/20/2015 4:04 pm : link
Awesome. Day = MADE!
I live to serve.  
BrettNYG10 : 5/20/2015 4:25 pm : link
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So if we're still alive  
MetsAreBack : 5/20/2015 4:44 pm : link
are our prospects good in the sense that we still have decent 3rd and 4th line options and good D- in the system.... or is this a product of just having more career "AAAA" types than other teams?
probably more the latter  
Greg from LI : 5/20/2015 4:51 pm : link
Skapski played well for Hartford this season but it's Yann Denis (who is in his 30s) who's played in the playoffs. Their leading scorers are mostly AHL lifers - Chris Bourque, Chris Mueller, Joey Crabb.
RE: I definitely remember Richards being absolutely terrible.  
Giants2012 : 5/20/2015 5:02 pm : link
In comment 12294744 BrettNYG10 said:
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Could barely handle the puck in the last two rounds.


+1

Richards couldn't keep up with anybody and the puck jumped all over his stick. He was a mess. St Louis is demonstrating better wheels than Richards but his decisions with the puck are awful.
Bourque brothers = Ferraro Brothers  
Giants2012 : 5/20/2015 5:04 pm : link
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We're fucked  
MetsAreBack : 5/20/2015 5:30 pm : link

Adam Gretz of cbssports picked us to win 3-2 tonight.

Gretz has been wrong now 6 consecutive games. Almost impossible to do.

Between him and pjcas -- those anti-indicators are just too much to overcome.
RE: We're fucked  
Stufftherun : 5/20/2015 6:33 pm : link
In comment 12295033 MetsAreBack said:
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Adam Gretz of cbssports picked us to win 3-2 tonight.

Gretz has been wrong now 6 consecutive games. Almost impossible to do.

Between him and pjcas -- those anti-indicators are just too much to overcome.


And don't forget a certain unnamed regular poster who said, and I'm paraphrasing, the Lightning should win 1 possibly 2 games this series. I don't understand how anyone who watched these two teams play each other during the regular season can feel that way let alone say it.

Sure, it's the playoffs, circumstances are different and the Lightning may not have been lights out in the Montreal series but that has no bearing on the next round and matchup.

Looking for a vintage Rangers road game tonight where everyone pays attention to the details and takes care of business.

Let's Go Rangers!!!
I said Rangers in 5 and I'm sticking to it.  
arcarsenal : 5/20/2015 6:46 pm : link
Man up, bitches. #LGR
RE: I said Rangers in 5 and I'm sticking to it.  
Stufftherun : 5/20/2015 7:02 pm : link
In comment 12295126 arcarsenal said:
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Man up, bitches. #LGR


Thought that might get your dander up a bit.
Sorry Reggie, we have a new...  
Bubblerjuke : 5/20/2015 7:04 pm : link
Mr. October. Rick Nash.
I've been depressed since Mon ... haven't listened to the radio or  
baadbill : 5/20/2015 7:38 pm : link
read anything since, so I don't know what the "talk" has been about ... but I'm afraid that Tampa broke the mystique and that Tampa scores 2 or more goals every game left in this series ... I sure as hell hope I'm wrong and that I'm wrong starting tonight ... game 3 is such a pivotal game in any 7 game series. I'm praying Mon was an aberration and that tonight's game is Sat all over again.
Ugh, Forslund is back in the booth.  
arcarsenal : 5/20/2015 7:39 pm : link
Worst color guy ever. I can't stand this guy.
RE: RE: We're fucked  
BrettNYG10 : 5/20/2015 7:48 pm : link
In comment 12295108 Stufftherun said:
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In comment 12295033 MetsAreBack said:


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Adam Gretz of cbssports picked us to win 3-2 tonight.

Gretz has been wrong now 6 consecutive games. Almost impossible to do.

Between him and pjcas -- those anti-indicators are just too much to overcome.



And don't forget a certain unnamed regular poster who said, and I'm paraphrasing, the Lightning should win 1 possibly 2 games this series. I don't understand how anyone who watched these two teams play each other during the regular season can feel that way let alone say it.

Sure, it's the playoffs, circumstances are different and the Lightning may not have been lights out in the Montreal series but that has no bearing on the next round and matchup.

Looking for a vintage Rangers road game tonight where everyone pays attention to the details and takes care of business.

Let's Go Rangers!!!


I don't understand why you say unnamed poster like a flaming vagina, but what I said was they could win a game or two based on superior skill - which leaves the possibility open for them winning others due to Bishop, a Ranger fuck up, or the inevitable toss-up game (we saw part of the first two in game two, as well as the high end skill).

Go get a Callahan jersey and root for the Lightning if you're going to be such a fucking pussy.

Still, Rangers in 5.
RE: I said Rangers in 5 and I'm sticking to it.  
BrettNYG10 : 5/20/2015 7:49 pm : link
In comment 12295126 arcarsenal said:
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Man up, bitches. #LGR


#teamarc
can someone please crush  
B in ALB : 5/20/2015 7:55 pm : link
Johnson's head into the fuckin ice tonight?

Probably not, with the Yandle and Boyle ballerinas tip toeing all over the defensive end acting out the Nutcracker on Ice.
this asshole John Forslund again?  
B in ALB : 5/20/2015 8:03 pm : link
Get this fuckin guy off my fuckin screen!

Goddamned amateur hour.
Fucking start the game at 8:07  
BrettNYG10 : 5/20/2015 8:07 pm : link
Fuck this 8:11 fucking bullshit.

God fucking dammit.
....  
MookGiants : 5/20/2015 8:12 pm : link
LGR
NBC's announcer rotation makes no sense.  
RDJR : 5/20/2015 8:12 pm : link
Doc will be on games 3 and 4 on WCF. I think we get Kenny Albert for game 4.
Forslund is not a guy who should be doing Conference Finals games.  
arcarsenal : 5/20/2015 8:15 pm : link
It's borderline criminal that he's even done playoff games at all. He is fucking awful.
Tampa is such a shitty sports town.  
RDJR : 5/20/2015 8:15 pm : link
if we take a two goal lead half the place will be empty.
LOL at the refs  
benwa27 : 5/20/2015 8:17 pm : link
It's gonna be one of those games again. Just skate straight to the bench after every whistle boys.
Brass!!!  
arcarsenal : 5/20/2015 8:18 pm : link
Hell of a fuckin' start boys
Goallllll  
RDJR : 5/20/2015 8:18 pm : link
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nice  
MookGiants : 5/20/2015 8:18 pm : link
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BRASSARD BABY  
LawrenceTaylor56 : 5/20/2015 8:18 pm : link
!!!
BRASSARD!  
dpinzow : 5/20/2015 8:18 pm : link
It's a power play goal!

Taking advantage of their stupidity
Bishop  
MookGiants : 5/20/2015 8:18 pm : link
never even flinched.
Nice 4 on 4 goal.  
BrettNYG10 : 5/20/2015 8:18 pm : link
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NIce goal  
jgambrosio : 5/20/2015 8:19 pm : link
at first i thought st louis was stupid for passing that back out rather than taking the shot but it worked out after all
Tampa got away with a bad hit  
dpinzow : 5/20/2015 8:20 pm : link
that should have been another penalty
not good if hayes is out  
jgambrosio : 5/20/2015 8:20 pm : link
he's been one of the best guys on the ice
That looked like a cross check to the face to me,  
BrettNYG10 : 5/20/2015 8:20 pm : link
But I have to see a replay.
Cmon Dom.  
RDJR : 5/20/2015 8:21 pm : link
Can't do it. Play smart.
stupid penalty  
MookGiants : 5/20/2015 8:21 pm : link
by Moore
Stupid fucking penalty by Moore.  
BrettNYG10 : 5/20/2015 8:21 pm : link
That was a clean hit on Hayes.
Moore retaliates stupidly  
dpinzow : 5/20/2015 8:22 pm : link
and gets a penalty...Pierre is a dumbass, Stamkos should be in the box for that
clean hit  
jgambrosio : 5/20/2015 8:22 pm : link
bad penalty by moore. let's kill this.
Bad penalty, Dom.  
arcarsenal : 5/20/2015 8:22 pm : link
Cant do that.
Wow I kind of miss Mike Emrick calling the game  
DC Gmen Fan : 5/20/2015 8:22 pm : link
he has so much more energy.
I'd like to see the Hayes hit again ... it didn't seem to me that  
baadbill : 5/20/2015 8:23 pm : link
he played the puck - never touched it ... pure interference
This PP is one of the best I've seen in a long time  
dpinzow : 5/20/2015 8:24 pm : link
Moore will feel relieved if they kill it off
Terrific save by Lundqvist  
dpinzow : 5/20/2015 8:24 pm : link
on Killorn. Henrik chants down in Tampa
What a save  
arcarsenal : 5/20/2015 8:25 pm : link
They've been scoring from that exact spot.
our guys  
MookGiants : 5/20/2015 8:25 pm : link
still thought we were 4 on 5, Girardi had no clue
TB controlling play. Need to withstand it  
RDJR : 5/20/2015 8:27 pm : link
and swing momentum. Hank looks sharp early.
Still jumpy on D  
benwa27 : 5/20/2015 8:28 pm : link
need to settle down a bit.
would be nice  
MookGiants : 5/20/2015 8:28 pm : link
if McDonagh would stop turning it over
Stepan is playing great.  
nygmen84 : 5/20/2015 8:31 pm : link
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FAST!!  
jgambrosio : 5/20/2015 8:33 pm : link
he was due!
nice  
MookGiants : 5/20/2015 8:33 pm : link
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Fast!!!!!  
nygmen84 : 5/20/2015 8:33 pm : link
The kid has been killing it.
What a play!!!  
redbeard : 5/20/2015 8:33 pm : link
!!!
FAST!!!  
benwa27 : 5/20/2015 8:33 pm : link
That was a quick one. Bury these fools.
YESPAH!!!  
arcarsenal : 5/20/2015 8:33 pm : link
That was fucking dirty. Amazing that he can do that but Rick Nash can't
Jesper Fast!  
dpinzow : 5/20/2015 8:33 pm : link
Rangers take advantage of Tampa's lack of discipline to get a breakaway. Bishop no chance at all!
Yesss  
RDJR : 5/20/2015 8:33 pm : link
Great feed CK. fast baby.
Jesper motherfuckin' FAST!  
Greg from LI : 5/20/2015 8:33 pm : link
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hope steps isn't hurt  
jgambrosio : 5/20/2015 8:33 pm : link
he was gingerly getting off the ice
RE: YESPAH!!!  
dpinzow : 5/20/2015 8:34 pm : link
In comment 12295279 arcarsenal said:
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That was fucking dirty. Amazing that he can do that but Rick Nash can't


He made up for Game 2 when he put it right into Bishop's pad when 3-3 looked almost certain
Thank God  
nygmen84 : 5/20/2015 8:34 pm : link
Someone can score on a breakway.
This announcer should be announcing baseball.  
BrettNYG10 : 5/20/2015 8:35 pm : link
He's THAT boring.
RE: This announcer should be announcing baseball.  
Joey from GlenCove : 5/20/2015 8:35 pm : link
In comment 12295289 BrettNYG10 said:
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He's THAT boring.


Where is doc?
That was huge  
dpinzow : 5/20/2015 8:35 pm : link
Tampa will let up a lot of chances like that because almost all they think about is offense. Gotta bury those to deflate them and Fast did
RE: This announcer should be announcing baseball.  
arcarsenal : 5/20/2015 8:35 pm : link
In comment 12295289 BrettNYG10 said:
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He's THAT boring.


He's absolutely terrible. Greg will say Laughlin is worse (thankfully I've never been subjected to him) but this guy is as bad as anyone I've ever heard.
gotta get a third goal  
B in ALB : 5/20/2015 8:36 pm : link
TB scores the next one and the momentum is completely flipped.

We've seen this before.
RE: RE: This announcer should be announcing baseball.  
RDJR : 5/20/2015 8:36 pm : link
In comment 12295291 Joey from GlenCove said:
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In comment 12295289 BrettNYG10 said:


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He's THAT boring.



Where is doc?


Doing games 3 and 4 of WCF.
RE: RE: This announcer should be announcing baseball.  
BrettNYG10 : 5/20/2015 8:36 pm : link
In comment 12295293 arcarsenal said:
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In comment 12295289 BrettNYG10 said:


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He's THAT boring.



He's absolutely terrible. Greg will say Laughlin is worse (thankfully I've never been subjected to him) but this guy is as bad as anyone I've ever heard.


It's not even his content. Just the way he speaks.
RE: gotta get a third goal  
nygmen84 : 5/20/2015 8:37 pm : link
In comment 12295294 B in ALB said:
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TB scores the next one and the momentum is completely flipped.

We've seen this before.
Yup, a 3 goal lead is where want to be.
They don't say the third goal is the most important goal  
Essex : 5/20/2015 8:37 pm : link
In a hockey game for no reason
2 goal lead, give it up  
jgambrosio : 5/20/2015 8:37 pm : link
just like clockwork
Put on Rangers Radio 98.7FM  
Run with 81 : 5/20/2015 8:37 pm : link
FUCK YOU STAMKOS!!!!
Ranger Radio ESPN 98.7FM - ( New Window )
mind numbing  
MookGiants : 5/20/2015 8:37 pm : link
play by Boyle. Get rid of it
Boyle sucks. WTF was that.  
RDJR : 5/20/2015 8:37 pm : link
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Oh shit, there's the 2-1 B in ALB was talking about  
dpinzow : 5/20/2015 8:37 pm : link
Stamkos on a breakaway. The arrogance of Tampa's coach in that interview proven correct there
RE: RE: gotta get a third goal  
nygmen84 : 5/20/2015 8:38 pm : link
In comment 12295298 nygmen84 said:
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In comment 12295294 B in ALB said:


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TB scores the next one and the momentum is completely flipped.

We've seen this before.

Yup, a 3 goal lead is where want to be.
And just like that its a 1 goal lead.
Terrible.  
arcarsenal : 5/20/2015 8:38 pm : link
Stop giving them fucking breakaways off shitty turnovers
Henrik  
MookGiants : 5/20/2015 8:38 pm : link
knocks the puck right into Stamkos lap, WTF
Boyle is so fuckin bad  
redbeard : 5/20/2015 8:38 pm : link
Jesus christ
Boil.  
B in ALB : 5/20/2015 8:38 pm : link
Fuckin Boil.
and a shitty effort  
MookGiants : 5/20/2015 8:38 pm : link
by McDonagh. Really shitty in fact.
Just cover the puck Hank  
benwa27 : 5/20/2015 8:38 pm : link
Can't give it right to Stamkos.
Can't get your pocket picked with no support.  
arcarsenal : 5/20/2015 8:38 pm : link
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holy shit  
jgambrosio : 5/20/2015 8:39 pm : link
can anyone handle the puck?
RE: Terrible.  
nygmen84 : 5/20/2015 8:40 pm : link
In comment 12295308 arcarsenal said:
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Stop giving them fucking breakaways off shitty turnovers
Its amazing how many breakaways, odd man rushes, and goals we simply hand them will terrible turnovers at the blue line.
TB quick to loose pucks.  
RDJR : 5/20/2015 8:40 pm : link
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we had 3 guys back  
MookGiants : 5/20/2015 8:40 pm : link
and McDonagh decides he's going to let Stamkos roam free
They sure like making it easy for Tampa huh?  
Greg from LI : 5/20/2015 8:40 pm : link
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Fat, juicy rebound by Bishop  
dpinzow : 5/20/2015 8:42 pm : link
but nobody could get to the end of it
Another juicy rebound by Bishop  
dpinzow : 5/20/2015 8:44 pm : link
just missed again getting to that
Hank made a horrible play on that goal.  
RDJR : 5/20/2015 8:45 pm : link
He put it on a tee for Stamkos. Stamkos can't be left alone either.
Hank did make a bad play  
MookGiants : 5/20/2015 8:46 pm : link
but if our Captain would get his fucking head out of his ass, it would be 2-0.
Glass was an inch away from that.  
BrettNYG10 : 5/20/2015 8:47 pm : link
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Another giveaway  
dpinzow : 5/20/2015 8:47 pm : link
but Tampa gets away with an obvious trip..our old friend Stralman should be in the box. AV is apoplectic
how  
MookGiants : 5/20/2015 8:47 pm : link
was that not a penalty on Stralman? That's a blatant trip
Glass had a wide open net and missed the puck  
Essex : 5/20/2015 8:48 pm : link
... Bum
RE: Glass was an inch away from that.  
MookGiants : 5/20/2015 8:48 pm : link
In comment 12295333 BrettNYG10 said:
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think it took a bounce right at the end, he had wide open net if he gets his stick on it
Nash has to stop with the bad angle shots  
RDJR : 5/20/2015 8:48 pm : link
Left the other side of the ice wide open. Does it all of the time.
Cnat believe this game isnt shown on nbc  
spike : 5/20/2015 8:48 pm : link
Instead they showed frickin mysteries of Laura.

Smh
no hold on kreider's stick there?  
jgambrosio : 5/20/2015 8:49 pm : link
thoguht that was clear
That's where I'll get upset at the ref  
dpinzow : 5/20/2015 8:50 pm : link
when it's an obvious penalty on them and it's not called. Tampa dodged a huge bullet and possibly a 3-1 deficit considering how Bishop's looked this period
interesting  
MookGiants : 5/20/2015 8:53 pm : link
thought from Eddie about taking Nash off of the PK. Problem is he might be our best penalty killer
It's an interesting idea...  
arcarsenal : 5/20/2015 8:56 pm : link
But this isn't the series to take one of your better penalty killers off.
Mook  
Marty866b : 5/20/2015 8:56 pm : link
Nash is our best penalty killer. I don't think that's what is stopping him from scoring. I can't believe his lack of scoring is because he's tired. When was the last goal Marty has scored. It's tough when your goal scorers can't score.
Regroup time  
benwa27 : 5/20/2015 9:01 pm : link
Fortunate to get out 2-1. D-men need to get the puck down on their shots, especially if there is not a screen. Bishop will catch everything if he can see it. Bounce it off his pads and get some rebounds.
Miller sure creates a lot of favorable situations  
RB^2 : 5/20/2015 9:02 pm : link
It looks like Tampa thinks they've found something to Hank's glove side. They keep swinging the puck to the right circle and one-timing it from there. They've already scored a couple of goals that way IIRC and Killorn had a wide open net that he fortunately fired into Hank's pad.
RE: interesting  
BrettNYG10 : 5/20/2015 9:05 pm : link
In comment 12295346 MookGiants said:
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thought from Eddie about taking Nash off of the PK. Problem is he might be our best penalty killer


Nash has gotten a handful of great scoring opportunities off the PK. I don't like that idea. I don't think there's a correlation.
May need a 4 or 5 spot to win tonight  
mfsd : 5/20/2015 9:09 pm : link
another sloppy, wide open game

Pretty savvy move by Hank.  
arcarsenal : 5/20/2015 9:14 pm : link
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PP. we needed it.  
RDJR : 5/20/2015 9:14 pm : link
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Too many men on Tampa  
dpinzow : 5/20/2015 9:14 pm : link
sloppy change...Nesterov didn't get off in time
Can someone please  
Stufftherun : 5/20/2015 9:16 pm : link
catch Stamkos with his head down and fucking light him up?!
Miller  
MookGiants : 5/20/2015 9:16 pm : link
shot that puck 5 feet wide.
Ughhhh  
arcarsenal : 5/20/2015 9:16 pm : link
Miller has had so many prime chances
Two things:  
batman11 : 5/20/2015 9:17 pm : link
1. Someone needs to knock the crap out of Stamcos.

2. They need to wipe that 'I'm smarter than everyone else' smirk off of Cooper's face.
About time they get called for that dirty shit.  
RDJR : 5/20/2015 9:20 pm : link
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Tampa with one head hit too many  
dpinzow : 5/20/2015 9:20 pm : link
Nesterov gets caught. Stamkos got away with a head hit on Hayes earlier but Nesterov goes to the box this time
Miller had to of been getting hassled  
redbeard : 5/20/2015 9:20 pm : link
That was a bad miss
I thought that went in...  
arcarsenal : 5/20/2015 9:20 pm : link
Damn. Please score on this fucking power play.
How did that not go in??  
nygmen84 : 5/20/2015 9:20 pm : link
Wow.

These assholes are getting a ton of cheap shots. Glass needs to bash one of their faces in.
RE: Miller  
BrettNYG10 : 5/20/2015 9:20 pm : link
In comment 12295380 MookGiants said:
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shot that puck 5 feet wide.


It was almost impressive how much he missed the net by.
Stamkos  
Marty866b : 5/20/2015 9:20 pm : link
Will someone please hit that MF!
We need to bury one here.  
RDJR : 5/20/2015 9:21 pm : link
. Enough of this 2-1 bullshit.
another thrilling power play so far  
jgambrosio : 5/20/2015 9:22 pm : link
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Big time ?  
Bubblerjuke : 5/20/2015 9:22 pm : link
Nash & St Louis. zero SOG
This PP was a waste of time  
dpinzow : 5/20/2015 9:23 pm : link
Afraid that Tampa is getting let off the hook for their mistakes
Brutal  
LawrenceTaylor56 : 5/20/2015 9:23 pm : link
back to back PP
Nash is killing us.  
RDJR : 5/20/2015 9:23 pm : link
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Spacing  
benwa27 : 5/20/2015 9:24 pm : link
Our spacing is so f'ing terrible on the PP. Not putting themselves in a position to get passes.
Just such a bad PP  
Greg from LI : 5/20/2015 9:24 pm : link
And you know makeup calls are coming
Fucking Brassard.  
BrettNYG10 : 5/20/2015 9:25 pm : link
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McDonagh  
MookGiants : 5/20/2015 9:26 pm : link
with another absolutely awful play winds up in a penalty on Brassard. Holy shit he's been absolutely atrocious tonight
RE: Just such a bad PP  
dpinzow : 5/20/2015 9:26 pm : link
In comment 12295403 Greg from LI said:
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And you know makeup calls are coming


Speak of the devil, Hedman embellishes a little hold from Brassard and the Rangers are shorthanded
Brass. Penalty magnet.  
RDJR : 5/20/2015 9:26 pm : link
McD with another turnover.
And there it is  
Greg from LI : 5/20/2015 9:26 pm : link
Just an atrocious shift from McDonagh
that one  
MookGiants : 5/20/2015 9:26 pm : link
is on McDonagh not Brassard. A mind numbing giveaway by McDonagh is what set the wheels in motion
He just can't help himself  
Essex : 5/20/2015 9:26 pm : link
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McD  
Marty866b : 5/20/2015 9:26 pm : link
Has been incredibly shit.
Bad turnover by McDonagh again  
arcarsenal : 5/20/2015 9:26 pm : link
And now Brassard is Benoit Pouliot
How about clearing the puck!  
schabadoo : 5/20/2015 9:26 pm : link
It's not that hard.
Brassard  
bigbluehoya : 5/20/2015 9:26 pm : link
Plays like a complete dipshit
McDonough  
batman11 : 5/20/2015 9:26 pm : link
Needs to wake the fuck up!!!!!
Ugh.  
benwa27 : 5/20/2015 9:26 pm : link
McDonagh set up Brassard for that penalty with a horrendous "pass".
McD with a slow and lazy  
Stufftherun : 5/20/2015 9:27 pm : link
backhand pass up the boards.
RE: Brass. Penalty magnet.  
nygmen84 : 5/20/2015 9:27 pm : link
In comment 12295409 RDJR said:
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McD with another turnover.
Yup. These two. Ugh.
Brass loves taking stupid penalties  
redbeard : 5/20/2015 9:27 pm : link
Loves it
RE: that one  
BrettNYG10 : 5/20/2015 9:27 pm : link
In comment 12295411 MookGiants said:
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is on McDonagh not Brassard. A mind numbing giveaway by McDonagh is what set the wheels in motion


McDonagh sucks.
And the predictable goal  
dpinzow : 5/20/2015 9:28 pm : link
from the penalty. 2-2
awful  
MookGiants : 5/20/2015 9:28 pm : link
absolutely awful.

McDonagh responsible for both goals tonight.
Fuck you Brass  
bigbluehoya : 5/20/2015 9:28 pm : link
Fucking idiot
This fucking teams and their stupid  
nygmen84 : 5/20/2015 9:29 pm : link
Fucking penalties.
We have no chance if we keep taking these stupid penalties.  
arcarsenal : 5/20/2015 9:29 pm : link
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You've got to be kidding me  
Greg from LI : 5/20/2015 9:29 pm : link
How the fuck do you let a guy waltz in all alone like that?
Maybe we should stop taking dumb penalties  
redbeard : 5/20/2015 9:29 pm : link
FOR FUCKS SAKE
this team is not the same team it was a month ago  
jgambrosio : 5/20/2015 9:29 pm : link
no zuccs. nash and msl with their heads in their asses. we can't win like this.
That is the best line I have seen all year  
Essex : 5/20/2015 9:29 pm : link
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Nice play Girardi.  
RDJR : 5/20/2015 9:29 pm : link
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that's just pathetic  
MookGiants : 5/20/2015 9:29 pm : link
if our Captain continues to play like this, we're going home this round. He's been the worst player on the ice for the Rangers tonight, by far
They're getting thoroughly outplayed tonight.  
BrettNYG10 : 5/20/2015 9:30 pm : link
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Their style creates penalties.  
RDJR : 5/20/2015 9:30 pm : link
We need to realize that and play smarter. New game.
Sometimes  
MookGiants : 5/20/2015 9:30 pm : link
I wish our guys would just let Henrik stop it. They make a bad play worse
Let's keep taking terrible penalties  
nygmen84 : 5/20/2015 9:30 pm : link
And give the team who has been making you their bitch on the PP more PP opportunities. Sounds like a solid game plan.
Brassard really starting to piss me off  
Kyle in NY : 5/20/2015 9:30 pm : link
Same shit. Keep them off the Powerplay!
they need to call a timeout  
jgambrosio : 5/20/2015 9:31 pm : link
another penalty. this is pathetic.
LOL.. another penalty.  
arcarsenal : 5/20/2015 9:31 pm : link
I give up. They're gonna take the lead here.
Boyle  
MookGiants : 5/20/2015 9:31 pm : link
bails us out.
Out of the 9 goals TB has scored this series  
nyjuggernaut2 : 5/20/2015 9:31 pm : link
Only 3 have come during even strength. Crazy.
Now it looks like Game 2 all over again  
dpinzow : 5/20/2015 9:31 pm : link
It'll actually be 4 on 4 as Tampa took a retaliatory penalty
Bailed out by Morrow.  
arcarsenal : 5/20/2015 9:31 pm : link
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Yandle getting tossed like a rag doll.  
RDJR : 5/20/2015 9:31 pm : link
Good thing. 4 on 4.
The last five periods have been an utter disaster  
Essex : 5/20/2015 9:31 pm : link
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Terrible call on Tampa.  
BlueHurricane : 5/20/2015 9:32 pm : link
Embellishment is an understatement.
Yandle  
pjcas18 : 5/20/2015 9:33 pm : link
was fortunate not to get two penalties on that play
lol  
jgambrosio : 5/20/2015 9:33 pm : link
mcdonagh almost turned that over into an oddman rush opportunity
game over. series over. season over.  
jgambrosio : 5/20/2015 9:33 pm : link
this team is done.
Pathetic.  
arcarsenal : 5/20/2015 9:34 pm : link
All of their goals are happening in non 5v5 situations
What a play.  
RDJR : 5/20/2015 9:34 pm : link
Overmatched. Three unanswered.
I fucking hate this team.  
nygmen84 : 5/20/2015 9:34 pm : link
Unreal. Blow a 2-0 lead.
how  
MookGiants : 5/20/2015 9:34 pm : link
in the world do you leave Johnson wide open right in front of the net?

We're going to lose this game after having a 3-0 lead. Klein and Kreider absolutely lost.
When did Tyler Johnson become Gretzky?  
dpinzow : 5/20/2015 9:34 pm : link
Utterly embarrassing. He's good but we're making him look like #99 circa 1984
Pathetic  
benwa27 : 5/20/2015 9:34 pm : link
Just clueless in the defensive zone.
Our defense fucking sucks right bowbownow  
Greg from LI : 5/20/2015 9:34 pm : link
Leaving guys wide open in front of the net again and again
Inexcusable  
MookGiants : 5/20/2015 9:35 pm : link
play from 3 of our 4 top defensemen tonight. The one fucking guy you can't leave wide open is that midget and they do. If that little fuck wants to hang out by the net make him eat the fucking ice
We're in trouble  
Kyle in NY : 5/20/2015 9:35 pm : link
They've been miles better. And I'm sure we'll stay at our usual 2 goals
how the fuck can you just keep hanging  
YAJ2112 : 5/20/2015 9:35 pm : link
Hank out to fucking dry you fucks???
Wow...we look like a bunch of dipshits for the second  
redbeard : 5/20/2015 9:36 pm : link
Game in a row


Pathetic showing by our D...truly dreadful
the effort  
MookGiants : 5/20/2015 9:36 pm : link
tonight is much, much worse than it was on Monday night. They're destroying us. Mondya night we kept falling over our own 2 feet and couldn't stay out of the box, but 5 on 5 we were fine. Tonight 5 on 5 we're awful.
Just leave the hottest scorer in the playoffs wide open  
nygmen84 : 5/20/2015 9:36 pm : link
5 ft in front of the net. Good idea assholes.
They're going to have to revert to Tortorella hockey  
dpinzow : 5/20/2015 9:36 pm : link
to frustrate this team, at least for a period or so to get their defensive discipline back
WTF is going on?  
NYerInMA : 5/20/2015 9:36 pm : link
Did they think the game was over at 2-0? This is appalling bad hockey in all facets.
what a fucking JOKE!!!  
B in ALB : 5/20/2015 9:36 pm : link
holy shit.


Dan Boil is getting dominated all over the ice. The idiot TB fans should be cheering with joy every time he gets the puck.

They look old and slow.

Didn't think I'd ever say that about these guys.

Terrible.
Play started with Staal  
benwa27 : 5/20/2015 9:36 pm : link
That play started with Staal taking behind the net and just turning it over leading to only 1 d-man back.
This is embarrassing  
Greg from LI : 5/20/2015 9:37 pm : link
They had best get their heads on straight, like now, or this is going to be a quick seies.
Rangers look slow. Not sure if it's all the TB speed  
RDJR : 5/20/2015 9:37 pm : link
or we are tired.
I'm guessing the game plan  
Stufftherun : 5/20/2015 9:38 pm : link
didn't involve leaving their two most dangerous players unattended in front of Hank?
Should be 4-2  
dpinzow : 5/20/2015 9:38 pm : link
Lundqvist stood on his head to stop those two shots
B  
MookGiants : 5/20/2015 9:38 pm : link
Boyle wasn't responsible for that goal, at all
Lundqvist deserves far better than this effort  
B in ALB : 5/20/2015 9:38 pm : link
by his teammates. Pathetic.
Pretty Simple!  
Carl in CT : 5/20/2015 9:39 pm : link
1) the Captain was a dog on the first goal
2) Girardi was a dog on #2.
3) Kline screwed up #3

So much for our Great D men!

King doesn't show up and we can't score total shit effort!

Does that sum it up? I believe so!
Girardi  
MookGiants : 5/20/2015 9:39 pm : link
standing still and not even trying for the icing
Refs might have missed another too many men  
dpinzow : 5/20/2015 9:39 pm : link
on Tampa
RE: B  
B in ALB : 5/20/2015 9:40 pm : link
In comment 12295480 MookGiants said:
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Boyle wasn't responsible for that goal, at all


I was referring to him trying to dangle in the offensive zone and getting worked. Shit was embarrassing.
Miller had a chance to wrap that around  
arcarsenal : 5/20/2015 9:40 pm : link
Couldn't get control
Normally im a very positive person  
yankeeslover : 5/20/2015 9:40 pm : link
But, we are not winning another game this year... I hate to say it...this series is over... Rangers are tired and overmatched... Tampa looks hungrier..
They're looking like  
Stufftherun : 5/20/2015 9:40 pm : link
a team that went through a meat grinding 7 game series against a physical team.
Staal misses a wide open net on one end  
dpinzow : 5/20/2015 9:40 pm : link
Killorn with a ripper on the other end over the glove, 4-2
Staal  
MookGiants : 5/20/2015 9:40 pm : link
with an excellent chance and he misses the net which leads to a goal for Tampa.

They are kicking our ass in every way. This might be a short series the other way. Fuck
Aaaaand that's on henrik  
redbeard : 5/20/2015 9:40 pm : link
What a shitshow
Getting absolutely nothing from our top guys  
nygmen84 : 5/20/2015 9:41 pm : link
Such as McD, Nash, and MSL is killing this team.

While their top guys like Stamkos, Palat, and Johnson absolutely dominate us.
Staal misses. They don't.  
RDJR : 5/20/2015 9:41 pm : link
Bring Talbot in for the third.
#TalbotTime  
BlueHurricane : 5/20/2015 9:41 pm : link
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You just saw the difference  
bluesince56 : 5/20/2015 9:41 pm : link
in the two teams. Rangers miss the net and Tampa puts it in.
10 goals in last 5 periods  
baadbill : 5/20/2015 9:41 pm : link
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if we keep trying  
MookGiants : 5/20/2015 9:41 pm : link
to play an up and down game with them we're going to lose in 5 games
Jesper Fast!! A ripper!  
dpinzow : 5/20/2015 9:41 pm : link
4-3 now
At least  
Mr. Nickels : 5/20/2015 9:41 pm : link
we got that one right back
big answer  
YAJ2112 : 5/20/2015 9:42 pm : link
Jesper is FAST
They're toying with us..  
rebel yell : 5/20/2015 9:42 pm : link
but Fast with a nice finish
Boil and Staal  
B in ALB : 5/20/2015 9:42 pm : link
With the Keystone Cops bit.

Clown show by these guys.



Fast!!!!

Only guy besides Hank playing tonight.
And Fast  
bluesince56 : 5/20/2015 9:42 pm : link
Scores
At least Fast can fucking put the puck in the net  
nygmen84 : 5/20/2015 9:42 pm : link
Thank God.
way to humiliate yourselves, fellas  
Greg from LI : 5/20/2015 9:42 pm : link
Tampa's a good team. They're not the fucking '76 Canadiens
Wow - Fast hit the net  
Giants2012 : 5/20/2015 9:43 pm : link
F'ing Staal and Miller
This game is bananas  
dpinzow : 5/20/2015 9:43 pm : link
nothing would surprise me from this point
Now staal!  
Carl in CT : 5/20/2015 9:43 pm : link
I will say something every pass I mean every pass Yandle makes is right on the tape of fellow Ranger players! He can sure pass! He has been a whipping boy but he is spot on all night!
How is it possible that this team  
nygmen84 : 5/20/2015 9:44 pm : link
Constantly misses the net by 10+ ft on seemingly every fucking shot. Its infuriating.
RE: Lundqvist deserves far better than this effort  
MetsAreBack : 5/20/2015 9:44 pm : link
In comment 12295481 B in ALB said:
Quote:
by his teammates. Pathetic.


Love the King but losing to Washington would have made me feel a lot sorrier for his legacy than this.

He's given up 10 goals in 5 periods. His game sucks right now too.
Staal and McDonagh  
benwa27 : 5/20/2015 9:44 pm : link
Worst players on the ice tonight by far.
I don't even know what to say  
Anakim : 5/20/2015 9:44 pm : link
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we have to get this series  
MookGiants : 5/20/2015 9:45 pm : link
slowed down. We can't skate with them the way our defensemen are playing.
Staal  
MookGiants : 5/20/2015 9:45 pm : link
has been fine, besides missing the net.

Klein, McDonagh, and Girardi have been awful.
One goal deficit.  
arcarsenal : 5/20/2015 9:45 pm : link
Put on the big boy pants and find a way to get the next fucking goal.
yep  
Greg from LI : 5/20/2015 9:45 pm : link
The team isn't helping him much but Lundqvist is not playing particularly well.
RE: RE: Lundqvist deserves far better than this effort  
B in ALB : 5/20/2015 9:46 pm : link
In comment 12295511 MetsAreBack said:
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In comment 12295481 B in ALB said:


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by his teammates. Pathetic.



Love the King but losing to Washington would have made me feel a lot sorrier for his legacy than this.

He's given up 10 goals in 5 periods. His game sucks right now too.



Pffft. The guy has made at least a half dozen unreal saves tonight to keep it this close. It's the defense that sucks cock.
Don't know what the fuck to make of that  
Kyle in NY : 5/20/2015 9:46 pm : link
We've gotta bring it in the third. This isn't nearly good enough.
Henrik has played poorly for the past  
redbeard : 5/20/2015 9:47 pm : link
Two games as well


I'm not shedding a tear for any of these guys right now

We will probably lose this game and be down in the series but
At least go out there and play like a bunch of professionals and not some half drunken beer league idiots
RE: Staal and McDonagh  
nygmen84 : 5/20/2015 9:47 pm : link
In comment 12295512 benwa27 said:
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Worst players on the ice tonight by far.
Staals play is light years better than McD who has been atrocious.

Him the Invisible Man Rick Nash better get their shit together.
For as much shit as Nash gets for not scoring.  
BrettNYG10 : 5/20/2015 9:47 pm : link
McDonagh deserves 1000x more shit. He has been fucking awful.
Henrik should've stopped the 4th goal  
NYerInMA : 5/20/2015 9:47 pm : link
But otherwise it's mostly been the players in front of him being asleep at the switch. They've got to stop the penalties and hit the net on these chances or they've got no shot.
Actually, I do have something to say  
Anakim : 5/20/2015 9:47 pm : link
HIT THE FUCKING NET, YOU DICKHEADS. STAAL, YOU HAD A GREAT CHANCE SET UP BY MARTY, WHO WAS NICE ENOUGH TO SHOW UP FOR 10 SECONDS, AND YOU MISS THE NET BY 10 FEET.


And fucking switch up the goddamn defensive pairings. Put Staal with Girardi, McDonagh with Boyle and Klein with Yandle. The pairings we have now are blowing chunks and are getting exposed by Tyler Johnson and Co.
AV tells Pierre we are trying to play fast. I'm not so sure  
RDJR : 5/20/2015 9:47 pm : link
that's what we need to be doing. Puck possession wouldn't be a bad thing at this point. Hank needs to shit them out in the 3rd for us to have a chance. Slow it down a bit if we can.
RE: Henrik has played poorly for the past  
BrettNYG10 : 5/20/2015 9:47 pm : link
In comment 12295521 redbeard said:
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Two games as well


I'm not shedding a tear for any of these guys right now

We will probably lose this game and be down in the series but
At least go out there and play like a bunch of professionals and not some half drunken beer league idiots


Leave us beer league idiots alone.
How do we pay  
Carl in CT : 5/20/2015 9:48 pm : link
Each on of these defenseman $5m each? Joke!
on their last 2 goals  
MookGiants : 5/20/2015 9:48 pm : link
we've had the numbers back to defend it pretty easily but mental mistakes and just losing guys has cost us 2 goals. How is it possible with 3 guys back and them only having 2 for Johnson to be left wide open right in front of the net?
Hate to admit it  
Marty866b : 5/20/2015 9:48 pm : link
But Tampa looks like the far better hockey team. They look faster,they're winning in the corners,and they can accurately shoot the puck. It's amazing how many shots the Rangers take they are so far off the net.
RE: For as much shit as Nash gets for not scoring.  
nygmen84 : 5/20/2015 9:49 pm : link
In comment 12295523 BrettNYG10 said:
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McDonagh deserves 1000x more shit. He has been fucking awful.
McD has been the worst player on the ice tonight and that's impressive since Boyle has been horrible as well.
RE: Staal  
Essex : 5/20/2015 9:49 pm : link
In comment 12295516 MookGiants said:
Quote:
has been fine, besides missing the net.

Klein, McDonagh, and Girardi have been awful.

Klein has not been awful, he made two great plays last period. They have one freaking line(albeit the best we faced this year) and should be able to stop them.
Correct!  
Carl in CT : 5/20/2015 9:49 pm : link
Someone needs to fucking head hunt Stamkos! Fucking cheap shot artist and never gets called!
RE: Staal  
pjcas18 : 5/20/2015 9:50 pm : link
In comment 12295516 MookGiants said:
Quote:
has been fine, besides missing the net.

Klein, McDonagh, and Girardi have been awful.


have to see the replay again, it looked like Killorn was Staal's man on the 4th goal. It was a good play by Killorn and a sick shot, but can't give the puck carrier that much room.

he's steady otherwise IMO.

game is far from over. ride the Kreider line. shorten the bench, stay out of the box, Rangers win the period
This has the feel of a game that will end 6-3 or 7-4  
dpinzow : 5/20/2015 9:50 pm : link
with the Rangers psychologically out of the series
RE: Staal  
benwa27 : 5/20/2015 9:51 pm : link
In comment 12295516 MookGiants said:
Quote:
has been fine, besides missing the net.

Klein, McDonagh, and Girardi have been awful.


Staal is a -2 and both goals came right off awful plays in the offensive zone by him. And his sliding barrel roll into Boyle was a wonderful play.
the Rangers  
MookGiants : 5/20/2015 9:51 pm : link
will never be psychologically out of any series. That's silly.
RE: the Rangers  
dpinzow : 5/20/2015 9:53 pm : link
In comment 12295541 MookGiants said:
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will never be psychologically out of any series. That's silly.


I don't know...that 2nd period looked like a series of mental errors that we haven't seen often from them. The Rangers don't look like they're making the proper plays at a fast enough tempo; some of it is physical but some of it is mental too. The defense certainly seems overwhelmed
St. Louis needs to at least be yanked off the PP.  
BrettNYG10 : 5/20/2015 9:55 pm : link
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Thank you!  
Anakim : 5/20/2015 9:55 pm : link
GET MARTY ST. LOUIS OFF THE FUCKING POWERPLAY
Thanks for agreeing, JR.  
BrettNYG10 : 5/20/2015 9:55 pm : link
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I still say we should put Marty on the 4th line and move JT Miller up  
Anakim : 5/20/2015 9:56 pm : link
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RE: Thanks for agreeing, JR.  
Anakim : 5/20/2015 9:56 pm : link
In comment 12295551 BrettNYG10 said:
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No problem, King....


I mean, fuck Roenick
I don't think you can hide MSL with Shepp and Glass.  
BrettNYG10 : 5/20/2015 9:56 pm : link
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RE: RE: Thanks for agreeing, JR.  
BrettNYG10 : 5/20/2015 9:57 pm : link
In comment 12295555 Anakim said:
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In comment 12295551 BrettNYG10 said:


Quote:


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No problem, King....


I mean, fuck Roenick


Lol, I typed that before I saw your post. I submitted mine like three seconds befor Jr said it on air.
MSL  
MookGiants : 5/20/2015 9:57 pm : link
can't be put on the 4th line. He needs to be put up in the suite in a suit
Big time ?  
Bubblerjuke : 5/20/2015 9:58 pm : link
Thru 2 periods. Nash & St Louis ZERO shots on goal.
RE: MSL  
Anakim : 5/20/2015 9:59 pm : link
In comment 12295559 MookGiants said:
Quote:
can't be put on the 4th line. He needs to be put up in the suite in a suit


A bit too late to scratch him at this point though. Seriously, don't bury Miller just because we have the great Marty St. Louis. St. Louis, aside from ten seconds, has been absolutely terrible all playoffs.
Tampa  
MookGiants : 5/20/2015 9:59 pm : link
didn't look anywhere near this in the first 2 rounds, outside of maybe game 6 last series.

Frustrating. These mental lapses need to stop.
I get being frustrated..  
arcarsenal : 5/20/2015 10:00 pm : link
But take a deep breath. We're down a goal in a 1-1 series going into the 3rd. There's a reason Tampa Bay is here. They're really good just like the Rangers are. We've got a ways to go here.

It's not always going to be pretty.

20 minutes to go. Tie this fucking thing up and then go from there.
RE: Tampa  
dpinzow : 5/20/2015 10:01 pm : link
In comment 12295563 MookGiants said:
Quote:
didn't look anywhere near this in the first 2 rounds, outside of maybe game 6 last series.

Frustrating. These mental lapses need to stop.


They did look this dominant in a couple of the games in the Detroit series...Mrazek almost pulled off a miracle in net
RE: RE: Tampa  
MookGiants : 5/20/2015 10:02 pm : link
In comment 12295566 dpinzow said:
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In comment 12295563 MookGiants said:


Quote:


didn't look anywhere near this in the first 2 rounds, outside of maybe game 6 last series.

Frustrating. These mental lapses need to stop.



They did look this dominant in a couple of the games in the Detroit series...Mrazek almost pulled off a miracle in net


Game 1, which they lost. And maybe game 6.

They were outplayed in every other game of that series.
well LA Kings didnt look good against Sharks  
MetsAreBack : 5/20/2015 10:04 pm : link
Boston didn't look good against Toronto

Division opponents know you well and tend to play uglier games. And players always say the first round is the toughest to get out of.

Especially with their young group, we were all hoping Detroit would KO them for a reason - even if it meant Carey Price in the ECF. This team is loaded and can beat you in so many ways. And they are all under 30 - they are going to win multiple Cups.

We're not playing particularly well, but when a team offensively pushes your shit in - despite all this investment in G and D - in 5 of 6 games now... reality is hitting hard right now.

We have to steal this game somehow and then Hank is going to have to find his game fast. He needs to steal 2 games for us. I understand these are tough saves - this guy wants to win a Cup, he's going to have to stand on his head this series. IT's that simple.
Miller  
MookGiants : 5/20/2015 10:05 pm : link
on with Nash and Brassard.

Maybe MSL is getting benched.
Have to bury one here  
MookGiants : 5/20/2015 10:05 pm : link
another good play from Fast
Fast playing fantastic  
dpinzow : 5/20/2015 10:06 pm : link
2 goals and a forced turnover which leads to a PP
0 SOG from Nash  
nygmen84 : 5/20/2015 10:06 pm : link
In two periods in the ECF is absolutely unacceptable.
tie game  
MookGiants : 5/20/2015 10:07 pm : link
let's fucking go
McDonagh sucks.  
BrettNYG10 : 5/20/2015 10:07 pm : link
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TIE GAME  
LawrenceTaylor56 : 5/20/2015 10:07 pm : link
!!!
CAPTAIN McD!  
dpinzow : 5/20/2015 10:07 pm : link
It's a power play goal! Hayes with a gorgeous pass
RE: 0 SOG from Nash  
benwa27 : 5/20/2015 10:08 pm : link
In comment 12295577 nygmen84 said:
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In two periods in the ECF is absolutely unacceptable.


And we've scored 4 goals.
McD fucking mans up and burys one!  
nygmen84 : 5/20/2015 10:08 pm : link
Hayes is a freaking stud.
whoa  
B in ALB : 5/20/2015 10:08 pm : link
That was nice. Holy shit.
Here we go...  
MetsAreBack : 5/20/2015 10:08 pm : link
hate to put in on Hank - he's the only reason we're even here ... but sometimes if you want to be a Champ ... you've got to stand on your head.

We gave him 4 goals tonight - he needs to lead us now.
Right back in it.  
arcarsenal : 5/20/2015 10:09 pm : link
.
alright, brand new game now  
Greg from LI : 5/20/2015 10:09 pm : link
Let's get to work
Absolutely beautiful PP  
nygmen84 : 5/20/2015 10:09 pm : link
.
fast  
MookGiants : 5/20/2015 10:09 pm : link
was an inch away from a hat trick, fuck
Gutsy comeback  
DC Gmen Fan : 5/20/2015 10:09 pm : link
Keep it up boys!
So close!!!  
dpinzow : 5/20/2015 10:09 pm : link
Yandle hit the post off a screen...Bishop was totally clueless there!
Off the post  
benwa27 : 5/20/2015 10:10 pm : link
So freaking close.
RE: So close!!!  
nygmen84 : 5/20/2015 10:10 pm : link
In comment 12295595 dpinzow said:
Quote:
Yandle hit the post off a screen...Bishop was totally clueless there!
Damn that was close. I want to see the replay.
Tampa had like ten guys on the ice before  
Essex : 5/20/2015 10:11 pm : link
.
I think  
MookGiants : 5/20/2015 10:11 pm : link
fast deflected that shot by Yandle
Let's steal  
Marty866b : 5/20/2015 10:12 pm : link
One here
Tampa has gotten away with about 3 more uncalled too many men  
arcarsenal : 5/20/2015 10:12 pm : link
.
RE: I think  
BrettNYG10 : 5/20/2015 10:13 pm : link
In comment 12295600 MookGiants said:
Quote:
fast deflected that shot by Yandle


I think you're right.

BTW, do the refs hold off blowing the whistle for Bishop or am I imagining things? It makes sense given his propensity to play the puck (and is more likely to work in our favor than TB's).
Johnson  
Marty866b : 5/20/2015 10:14 pm : link
Someone has got to slow him down.
someone  
MookGiants : 5/20/2015 10:14 pm : link
needs to put Johnson on his ass.
fast and Yandle  
Carl in CT : 5/20/2015 10:15 pm : link
Best players tonight by far!
RE: someone  
nygmen84 : 5/20/2015 10:15 pm : link
In comment 12295608 MookGiants said:
Quote:
needs to put Johnson on his ass.
Paging Tanner Glass.
Nash  
MookGiants : 5/20/2015 10:16 pm : link
has to get more on that. He should have continued and tried to overpower his way to the net. Poor
What a pathetic shot attempt.  
arcarsenal : 5/20/2015 10:16 pm : link
.
Nash with the nice 40 MPh shot to the chest.  
BrettNYG10 : 5/20/2015 10:16 pm : link
Good job warming Bishop up.
RE: Nash  
BrettNYG10 : 5/20/2015 10:17 pm : link
In comment 12295613 MookGiants said:
Quote:
has to get more on that. He should have continued and tried to overpower his way to the net. Poor


I wouldn't criticize him if he tried that and lost the puck.
What a weak ass shot from Nash  
nygmen84 : 5/20/2015 10:18 pm : link
It looked like he exerted 0 effort on that attempt.
TB gets away with a lot of sneaky stick work  
dpinzow : 5/20/2015 10:18 pm : link
when we try to clear our zone...especially the Johnson line. AV needs to alert the refs to this soon and make them call something
I honestly could have stopped that shot without any pads.  
arcarsenal : 5/20/2015 10:18 pm : link
.
We have to figure out a way to slow down their  
RDJR : 5/20/2015 10:21 pm : link
top line.
RE: RE: someone  
dpinzow : 5/20/2015 10:22 pm : link
In comment 12295610 nygmen84 said:
Quote:
In comment 12295608 MookGiants said:


Quote:


needs to put Johnson on his ass.

Paging Tanner Glass.


can't take the 5 minute major for that now...gotta get through this game first before you think about that
Yandle's having a superb hockey game in addition  
BrettNYG10 : 5/20/2015 10:24 pm : link
To winning the gold medal for diving.
RE: Yandle's having a superb hockey game in addition  
RDJR : 5/20/2015 10:24 pm : link
In comment 12295628 BrettNYG10 said:
Quote:
To winning the gold medal for diving.


Best he's looked in the playoffs. Maybe he's getting healthy.
Sure feels like  
Marty866b : 5/20/2015 10:24 pm : link
Except for the early goal the entire period has been in our end.
He's having a decent series  
MetsAreBack : 5/20/2015 10:25 pm : link
this style of play suits him.

Nash has to step it the fuck up here. He just has to. Every other "superstar" on this ice has stepped up their game. It's a game of inches. Our guy has to show up.
RE: Yandle's having a superb hockey game in addition  
nygmen84 : 5/20/2015 10:26 pm : link
In comment 12295628 BrettNYG10 said:
Quote:
To winning the gold medal for diving.
He is a real Greg Louganis out there.
shoot the puck  
MookGiants : 5/20/2015 10:27 pm : link
Staal.
Marty is terrible.  
arcarsenal : 5/20/2015 10:28 pm : link
My god.
Shank by St. Louis  
benwa27 : 5/20/2015 10:28 pm : link
Had a wide open net
MSL cant even handle a pass anymore  
nygmen84 : 5/20/2015 10:28 pm : link
Its so pathetic.
very good shift there by the Moore line  
dpinzow : 5/20/2015 10:28 pm : link
we need at least two lines to grind and cycle hard in their end to frustrate them
Shoot - Bishop gives up rebounds  
Giants2012 : 5/20/2015 10:29 pm : link
.
well  
Nitro : 5/20/2015 10:29 pm : link
damn
that's game  
MookGiants : 5/20/2015 10:29 pm : link
another fuck up defensively. Fuck
And some Keystone Kops stuff  
dpinzow : 5/20/2015 10:29 pm : link
on defense...5-4
terrible  
YAJ2112 : 5/20/2015 10:29 pm : link
.
honestly I'm done with MSL  
MetsAreBack : 5/20/2015 10:30 pm : link
just done. Bring up Lindberg - he plays a responsible two way game at least
McDonagh  
MookGiants : 5/20/2015 10:30 pm : link
once again plays that terribly. Mother fucker. By far our worst player
that's on henrik  
redbeard : 5/20/2015 10:30 pm : link
Awful goal to let in
Brutal.  
arcarsenal : 5/20/2015 10:30 pm : link
.
And there it is.  
nygmen84 : 5/20/2015 10:30 pm : link
What a letdown.
5 goals hank  
Kyle in NY : 5/20/2015 10:30 pm : link
Not acceptable
the only thing McDonagh  
MookGiants : 5/20/2015 10:30 pm : link
did there was screen Henrik.
Henrik's gotta stop that one  
NYerInMA : 5/20/2015 10:30 pm : link
That's bush league shit right there.
How many breakdowns are we gonna have on D?  
RDJR : 5/20/2015 10:30 pm : link
My gosh.
Tampa glides to the net and hits the net  
Giants2012 : 5/20/2015 10:31 pm : link
Rangers don't go to the net enough
every fucking chance they have  
MookGiants : 5/20/2015 10:31 pm : link
they score.
game  
MetsAreBack : 5/20/2015 10:31 pm : link
Hank isn't exactly stepping up this series.

Hard to cry for his Cup -- he's given up 11 goals in 2 games. Yeah, I know not enough help... he has to play well for us to win and he's just not.
Terrible play by McD and Hank.  
nygmen84 : 5/20/2015 10:31 pm : link
He has let in way too many soft ass goals this series.
Our best players  
MookGiants : 5/20/2015 10:31 pm : link
playing like dogshit and theirs are stepping up. This is a nightmare
They score every time they get a chance  
bxgiants4 : 5/20/2015 10:32 pm : link
In close. Any time they're near the net it goes in
Not as talanted as the old Pens  
Giants2012 : 5/20/2015 10:32 pm : link
But the capiatlize on evey chance like the old Pens.
I feel like the Bolts ability to score was somewhat underestimated  
Ben in Tampa : 5/20/2015 10:32 pm : link
here.

This isn't the Rangers fucking up. Tampa is a high octane offense.

That being said, I totally expect New York to tie this up.
Agree on Hank. TB has his number.  
RDJR : 5/20/2015 10:32 pm : link
Quick shots.
Second nightmare game in a row  
redbeard : 5/20/2015 10:33 pm : link
Who knows...maybe our fucking squad will get off the bus next game
I wonder what it feels like getting production from your top players.  
nygmen84 : 5/20/2015 10:33 pm : link
Must be nice.
Henrik  
MookGiants : 5/20/2015 10:33 pm : link
at some point in this series needs to make the key saves.

To this point, he hasn't. They had very few chances in game 1.
Tampa's very skilled  
NYerInMA : 5/20/2015 10:33 pm : link
But every pro team is going to score when you give them wide open shots at the night over and over.
Still in this.  
RDJR : 5/20/2015 10:33 pm : link
Have to steal it.
when  
spike : 5/20/2015 10:33 pm : link
does Talbot come in?
RE: I feel like the Bolts ability to score was somewhat underestimated  
MookGiants : 5/20/2015 10:34 pm : link
In comment 12295668 Ben in Tampa said:
Quote:
here.

This isn't the Rangers fucking up. Tampa is a high octane offense.

That being said, I totally expect New York to tie this up.


Leaving guys wide open in front of the net is not fucking up? Falling over your own 2 feet leading to a breakaway is not fucking up?
RE: when  
nygmen84 : 5/20/2015 10:34 pm : link
In comment 12295675 spike said:
Quote:
does Talbot come in?
For Nash? Hopefully soon.
score... yes  
MetsAreBack : 5/20/2015 10:34 pm : link
11 times in 2 games? no.

I'm done watching MSL sabotage our season. At this point AV has to make a switch. It's over. Move on. Lindberg or Bourque, don't give a shit who - but its time to move on.
Mook, this is the 6th game this post season where Tampa has 4+ points  
Ben in Tampa : 5/20/2015 10:35 pm : link
These aren't fluke scores against an imploding Rangers team
Well, its TBD on the Rangers imploding  
Ben in Tampa : 5/20/2015 10:36 pm : link
but the point is Tampa can score. A lot.
Tampa  
MookGiants : 5/20/2015 10:37 pm : link
wasn't nearly this good against teams with significantly less than the Rangers have.

Tampa is forcing them into mind numbing mistakes. That for whatever reason Tampa couldn't force Montreal or Detroit into
that's a penalty  
MookGiants : 5/20/2015 10:38 pm : link
on Stamkos, jesus fucking christ, what is it going to take to have him in the box?
Stamkos should be in the box  
dpinzow : 5/20/2015 10:38 pm : link
exceptionally dirty player
Nice no call.  
RDJR : 5/20/2015 10:38 pm : link
Cmon.
That's a fucking penalty  
arcarsenal : 5/20/2015 10:38 pm : link
.
How is that not a crosscheck?  
nygmen84 : 5/20/2015 10:38 pm : link
Ugh.
Ben  
MetsAreBack : 5/20/2015 10:38 pm : link
why are you here? No friends?

You seem like a nice guy, I get your a Giants fan... but I cant fathom going by myself to a thread with 100 (pick a team) fans and just talking up my team when they take the lead.

Its obnoxious.
he did take a stick  
pjcas18 : 5/20/2015 10:38 pm : link
in the face from McDonagh that wasn't called.
Hagelin  
MookGiants : 5/20/2015 10:38 pm : link
gets tripped, no call.

Can't shove your whistle up your ass now refs
The Lightning have gotten away with murder  
dpinzow : 5/20/2015 10:38 pm : link
when it comes to the officiating...several dirty hits, a couple of too many men missed
RE: he did take a stick  
MookGiants : 5/20/2015 10:38 pm : link
In comment 12295688 pjcas18 said:
Quote:
in the face from McDonagh that wasn't called.


Yeah, after Stamkos held him the entire way
Why is MSL on the fucking ice?  
nygmen84 : 5/20/2015 10:39 pm : link
AV must be drunk.
I will agree Tampa didn't wake up until the end of the MTL series  
Ben in Tampa : 5/20/2015 10:39 pm : link
but they have been streaky all year. When they're cold they are cold, but when they get hot they seem to score at will
YESS  
Mr. Nickels : 5/20/2015 10:39 pm : link
!!!!

O ye of little faith!!!
yes!  
MookGiants : 5/20/2015 10:39 pm : link
let's fucking go
DAN BOYLE!!! It's 5-5  
dpinzow : 5/20/2015 10:39 pm : link
this game is bananas
BOYLERMAKER  
YAJ2112 : 5/20/2015 10:39 pm : link
!!!!!!!!!!!


MSL will get the GWG
My man Boyle!  
BrettNYG10 : 5/20/2015 10:39 pm : link
.
Yes. Keep shooting.  
RDJR : 5/20/2015 10:39 pm : link
Bishop can't stop shit.
The game isn't fucking over yet boys.  
arcarsenal : 5/20/2015 10:39 pm : link
LETS GO
Boil!  
B in ALB : 5/20/2015 10:40 pm : link
Wow!
LOL Boyle  
benwa27 : 5/20/2015 10:40 pm : link
Nice goal!
Yes!!!  
RodneyHamp : 5/20/2015 10:40 pm : link
Fucking win this!!!!
Danny Boyle!!!  
nygmen84 : 5/20/2015 10:40 pm : link
Yandle with the assist!
Looking forward to Ben's comments  
MetsAreBack : 5/20/2015 10:40 pm : link
but my guess is he comes back 30 seconds after Tampa makes it 6-5
Charles Manson scores  
Giants2012 : 5/20/2015 10:41 pm : link
!!!!!
Please don't let us down now!!!  
nyjuggernaut2 : 5/20/2015 10:41 pm : link
Hank can't possibly let up 6 goals in back to back games.
MetsAreBack  
Ben in Tampa : 5/20/2015 10:41 pm : link
I'm not picking fights or anything. My old man is a mega Rangers fan, so I have a soft spot for them. I have plenty of friends, thanks for the concern though.

And like I said, Rangers score and we're back to even.
RE: Charles Manson scores  
BrettNYG10 : 5/20/2015 10:41 pm : link
In comment 12295707 Giants2012 said:
Quote:
!!!!!


Hah!
Should be 2.5  
RDJR : 5/20/2015 10:43 pm : link
.
Overtime again  
dpinzow : 5/20/2015 10:43 pm : link
Don't know how late I can stay up...have to be awake at 5. This will be rough
RE: game  
LawrenceTaylor56 : 5/20/2015 10:44 pm : link
In comment 12295663 MetsAreBack said:
Quote:
Hank isn't exactly stepping up this series.

Hard to cry for his Cup -- he's given up 11 goals in 2 games. Yeah, I know not enough help... he has to play well for us to win and he's just not.


You were saying?
Is it Nash time?  
Marty866b : 5/20/2015 10:46 pm : link
Finally or Marty? If we can steal one here you have to think that this team is one of destiny.
Ben  
MetsAreBack : 5/20/2015 10:47 pm : link
that's fine... I've just found your timing conveniently odd throughout this postseason series.

We ALL respect Tampa's talent (well... except Arc). And no matter what happens this series, they remind me basically of many young dynasties in that they can beat you in so many ways. Devils, young Avalanche teams, the '08 Penguins, Blackhawks... you name it. Your stars are all under 25.

We're just trying to steal a series before your guys get the postseason experience when they'll be battle tested and even stronger in the future.

We don't need you on after every Tampa goal telling us how this team can score in bunches. Go tell your Tampa Lightning fans that shit. Frankly - no shit.
RE: RE: game  
MetsAreBack : 5/20/2015 10:47 pm : link
In comment 12295716 LawrenceTaylor56 said:
Quote:
In comment 12295663 MetsAreBack said:


Quote:


Hank isn't exactly stepping up this series.

Hard to cry for his Cup -- he's given up 11 goals in 2 games. Yeah, I know not enough help... he has to play well for us to win and he's just not.



You were saying?



I was saying we have 5 goals tonight and didn't win (yet). He like the other "stars" on this team have to elevate their game big time.
If the Rangers lose, Lundqvist definitely deserves some blame.  
BrettNYG10 : 5/20/2015 10:49 pm : link
Not quite McDonagh blame, but blame.
RE: Overtime again  
RDJR : 5/20/2015 10:50 pm : link
In comment 12295715 dpinzow said:
Quote:
Don't know how late I can stay up...have to be awake at 5. This will be rough


Hang in there. We need you.
i have to be in buffalo  
MookGiants : 5/20/2015 10:50 pm : link
and have a booth set up for work by 730am. 4 hour drive as soon as this game ends.
Nasher getting slammed by JR.  
RDJR : 5/20/2015 10:54 pm : link
Deservedly so.
RE: Nasher getting slammed by JR.  
BrettNYG10 : 5/20/2015 10:55 pm : link
In comment 12295723 RDJR said:
Quote:
Deservedly so.


Yet McDonagh goes unscathed...
RE: i have to be in buffalo  
dpinzow : 5/20/2015 10:57 pm : link
In comment 12295722 MookGiants said:
Quote:
and have a booth set up for work by 730am. 4 hour drive as soon as this game ends.


Ouch...
they both deserve it, Brett  
MetsAreBack : 5/20/2015 10:57 pm : link
but keep in mind McD has faced 3 of the 4 best players in the world in all 3 rounds. And he has a Goal tonight. If you don't hear his name or notice him ... that means he played great.

Nash - the opposite.


This has the feel of that crazy February Islanders game by the way... except final score. Who knows. I honestly feel like this OT is our season.
Don't look it up  
Carl in CT : 5/20/2015 10:57 pm : link
We only have one player +2 tonight. Who is it?
Fast for the Hat Trick and GWG  
benwa27 : 5/20/2015 10:59 pm : link
Let's do this.
We NEED Hank to make a few HUGE saves  
Run with 81 : 5/20/2015 10:59 pm : link
Now more than ever!!

LGR!!!
Well it isnt Marc Staal  
MetsAreBack : 5/20/2015 10:59 pm : link
who is -2.

As much as I like Staal and feel like he's played well... he is -8 this postseason. I mean WTF.
RE: Don't look it up  
benwa27 : 5/20/2015 11:00 pm : link
In comment 12295727 Carl in CT said:
Quote:
We only have one player +2 tonight. Who is it?


Mr. Yandle
RE: Don't look it up  
nygmen84 : 5/20/2015 11:00 pm : link
In comment 12295727 Carl in CT said:
Quote:
We only have one player +2 tonight. Who is it?
Fast?
by the way Killorn has 9 shots tonight  
MetsAreBack : 5/20/2015 11:01 pm : link
of all the people you think could really hurt you in a series... this fucking guy is probably tied for #2 with Stamkos behind Tyler Johnson right now. WTF?
Oh man, I thought the Rangers were going to end it  
Ben in Tampa : 5/20/2015 11:01 pm : link
there
Quick ass whistle  
nygmen84 : 5/20/2015 11:01 pm : link
Come on.
OMG Henrik  
benwa27 : 5/20/2015 11:03 pm : link
No more pinching D
There's 1...  
Run with 81 : 5/20/2015 11:03 pm : link
HUGE SAVE from Hank!!
Fuck, that was a soft one  
dpinzow : 5/20/2015 11:04 pm : link
should have had that
and then  
MookGiants : 5/20/2015 11:04 pm : link
there's an awful goal to let in by Henrik.

Simply not good enough.
RE: they both deserve it, Brett  
BrettNYG10 : 5/20/2015 11:04 pm : link
In comment 12295726 MetsAreBack said:
Quote:
but keep in mind McD has faced 3 of the 4 best players in the world in all 3 rounds. And he has a Goal tonight. If you don't hear his name or notice him ... that means he played great.

Nash - the opposite.


This has the feel of that crazy February Islanders game by the way... except final score. Who knows. I honestly feel like this OT is our season.


McDonagh's been very noticeable in a bad way. He has been a much worse hockey player than Nash.
But not a 2nd  
Run with 81 : 5/20/2015 11:04 pm : link
FUCK FUCK!!!!!
If Henrik  
MookGiants : 5/20/2015 11:05 pm : link
wants to win a cup, this shit can't happen. That loss is on him.
Henrik lost us this game  
redbeard : 5/20/2015 11:05 pm : link
...
Hank was brutal tonight.  
RDJR : 5/20/2015 11:05 pm : link
Brutal.
Like game 2  
Ash_3 : 5/20/2015 11:05 pm : link
this loss was a team effort.
that's an easy  
MookGiants : 5/20/2015 11:05 pm : link
fucking save. Absolutely pathetic
That one is on Hank  
nygmen84 : 5/20/2015 11:05 pm : link
Just terrible.
Hank just wasn't acceptable tonight.  
arcarsenal : 5/20/2015 11:05 pm : link
A lot of negatives but you just can't give up 6 goals and have any chance.
That is a bad  
Mr. Nickels : 5/20/2015 11:05 pm : link
bad bad loss
What a kick in the balls.  
Anakim : 5/20/2015 11:06 pm : link
Terrible. It felt like the McDonagh/Girardi pairing gave up every goal tonight. They really need to break them up. Horrible
it's not a team effort  
MookGiants : 5/20/2015 11:06 pm : link
when you give up 6 goals and the overtime one is a fucking joke.

He is playing terribly. If it continues, our season is over on sunday night
6 goals in back to back games  
NYerInMA : 5/20/2015 11:06 pm : link
Unacceptable.
that's a fuckin terrible goal  
B in ALB : 5/20/2015 11:06 pm : link
holy shit.

Absolutely pathetic by Hank. He really shit the bed.

Horrific.
Our 3 top players were our worst players tonight.  
nygmen84 : 5/20/2015 11:06 pm : link
Hank, McD, and Nash.
4 FUCKIN GOALS from the Triplets line  
Run with 81 : 5/20/2015 11:06 pm : link
Hank...
Was that Vanbiesbrouck in net?  
Giants2012 : 5/20/2015 11:07 pm : link
Good Lord
That wasn't a response to  
Ash_3 : 5/20/2015 11:07 pm : link
you Mook, relax.

This game was a comprehensive failure. It wouldn't be fair to McD among others if we pinned it on Hank.
No fucking crying for Hank  
Kyle in NY : 5/20/2015 11:07 pm : link
if we lose this series. That is just awful.

He got 5 goals tonight. I don't care who you wanna single out for most of them. That is terrible by him, and the winner was worst of all.
RE: 4 FUCKIN GOALS from the Triplets line  
nygmen84 : 5/20/2015 11:07 pm : link
In comment 12295756 Run with 81 said:
Quote:
Hank...
Shocking..production from your best players allows you to win.
How many goals was McDonagh on the ice for tonight?  
BrettNYG10 : 5/20/2015 11:07 pm : link
Four?

And does that include the terrible giveaway that led to Brassard's penalty?
Kuchorov surprised it went in.  
RDJR : 5/20/2015 11:07 pm : link
.
What is McD doing there?  
schabadoo : 5/20/2015 11:07 pm : link
It was 1 on 2, why back up?
bad outing for Henrik tonight  
PaulBlakeTSU : 5/20/2015 11:07 pm : link
While Henrik wasn't as good as he usually is, the Lightning have seemingly found breakaways and wide open looks that the Rangers have not over the last two games.

Hard to shit on Henrik when he's been so lights out for us and gotten us this far.
Hey henrik  
redbeard : 5/20/2015 11:07 pm : link
Wake the FUCK UP
Does Cam  
Carl in CT : 5/20/2015 11:08 pm : link
Get his shot?
That was a joke,  
RodneyHamp : 5/20/2015 11:08 pm : link
right?
The last one was on Hank,  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 5/20/2015 11:08 pm : link
but which of the defensemen played well? Not a damn one.
2-0 lead  
MookGiants : 5/20/2015 11:08 pm : link
and Henrik bats a puck right onto Stamkos lap for the goal.

Pathetic game from him. Worst he has had in a long time
You simply can't give up these many goals  
Anakim : 5/20/2015 11:08 pm : link
The last two games have been unacceptable.
RE: Was that Vanbiesbrouck in net?  
B in ALB : 5/20/2015 11:08 pm : link
In comment 12295757 Giants2012 said:
Quote:
Good Lord


Do you ever make any fucking sense?

Please don't post again.
RE: The last one was on Hank,  
CGiants07 : 5/20/2015 11:09 pm : link
In comment 12295768 shockeyisthebest8056 said:
Quote:
but which of the defensemen played well? Not a damn one.


yandle
RE: The last one was on Hank,  
BrettNYG10 : 5/20/2015 11:09 pm : link
In comment 12295768 shockeyisthebest8056 said:
Quote:
but which of the defensemen played well? Not a damn one.


Yandle did.
what can you say  
MetsAreBack : 5/20/2015 11:09 pm : link

your stars have to be stars... their's have elevated their game, ours have sucked. Hard to weep for Hank's Cup when he plays like this. 5+ allowed to Tampa now in 4 of 6 games. It's pathetic. It'd be pathetic for Halak or anyone average.

Jesper Fast and some others kept us in the game tonight, but Hank, Nash, McD and others just aren't getting it done.

I'm sorry you have to drive 4 hours after watching this tonight Mook.
RE: RE: Was that Vanbiesbrouck in net?  
Giants2012 : 5/20/2015 11:10 pm : link
In comment 12295771 B in ALB said:
Quote:
In comment 12295757 Giants2012 said:


Quote:


Good Lord



Do you ever make any fucking sense?

Please don't post again.


Johnny used to give up easy goals after incredible saves so STFU kid
Friday  
yankeeslover : 5/20/2015 11:10 pm : link
Now becomes a must win game. Fuck.can't lose Friday.
RE: bad outing for Henrik tonight  
MookGiants : 5/20/2015 11:11 pm : link
In comment 12295764 PaulBlakeTSU said:
Quote:
While Henrik wasn't as good as he usually is, the Lightning have seemingly found breakaways and wide open looks that the Rangers have not over the last two games.

Hard to shit on Henrik when he's been so lights out for us and gotten us this far.


He's supposed to be the best player on our team. Don't care what he's done to get us here, 12 goals in 2 games is pathetic. We should not lose a game that we score 5 goals in.

Tampa was not playing anywhere near this in the first two series.

They had 13 goals in the first 5 games of last series. 13 in 3 games here.

10 in the first 5 against detroit.
RE: RE: The last one was on Hank,  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 5/20/2015 11:11 pm : link
In comment 12295773 BrettNYG10 said:
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but which of the defensemen played well? Not a damn one.



Yandle did.



Well, forgive me then... 1 out of 6 defensemen didn't completely shit his pants tonights.
We aren't going to win another game unless our 3 stars  
nygmen84 : 5/20/2015 11:11 pm : link
Get their heads out of their asses and start producing. Hank, Nash, and McD were awful and its killing this team.
So much for making adjustments  
NYerInMA : 5/20/2015 11:11 pm : link
They scored more tonight, but otherwise they looked just as bad as they did in Game 2. TB has upped their game, Rangers have not.
An average of 2 goals allowed per period in the last ...  
Crispino : 5/20/2015 11:11 pm : link
2 games. That's not good.
Yeah you cant shit on Hank  
MetsAreBack : 5/20/2015 11:11 pm : link
or pull him. He's the franchise. He's the reason I root so hard for him.

But its really tough to watch the way he's failed this series when the team needs him so badly. tonight is frankly solely on him.

They need to pull MSL from the lineup. That's obvious. But a separate issue.

But they need to get Hank right somehow because he's Tampa's absolute fucking bitch right now. 5+ in 4 of 6 games to them.
Tampa  
PaulBlakeTSU : 5/20/2015 11:12 pm : link
still has to beat us two more times to win the series. It's not over yet. Time to re-group.
Of the 6 goals tonight  
NYerInMA : 5/20/2015 11:12 pm : link
I thought he should've stopped 3 of them. That's not a good percentage.
RE: So much for making adjustments  
Anakim : 5/20/2015 11:12 pm : link
In comment 12295781 NYerInMA said:
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They scored more tonight, but otherwise they looked just as bad as they did in Game 2. TB has upped their game, Rangers have not.


Right? The 3rd period opened with Staal and Girardi and all seemed good and...lo and behold, we're back to the sieve pairing of McDonagh and Girardi.
You have to be honest Hank is playing bad  
Essex : 5/20/2015 11:12 pm : link
If we score 5 goals we should win. Very disappointing, really don't know he we stop this, they have torched is this year 4 times for 5 goals or more. It is not a fluke. We are in serious jeopardy.
Welp.  
arcarsenal : 5/20/2015 11:13 pm : link
At worst, we had to split them in their building and go home 2-2. So.. now Friday night is a must win. We'll see what this team is made of.
Kreider's  
MookGiants : 5/20/2015 11:13 pm : link
worst game of the playoffs tonight, too. Was too worried about hitting people instead of playing a good game
root so hard for this team...  
MetsAreBack : 5/20/2015 11:14 pm : link
I meant.

Hank is a guy that transcends the Rangers jersey. I rare breed. I'll always have his back - but you cant play like he's played the last 2 games and expect to win a Cup or be called a Champion.

As Britt said maybe a week ago, Champions earn that title and Hank fairly or unfairly has yet to earn it. He hasn't stepped up one bit in this series or against this particular team all season.
AV will not play Talbot and he shouldn't,  
RDJR : 5/20/2015 11:14 pm : link
but the numbers are not pretty for Hank against TB. Game one was an outlier. Two and three are, unfortunately, typical. I'm wondering if it's in his head at this point.
......  
BrettNYG10 : 5/20/2015 11:14 pm : link
It's becoming more and more obvious that Stralman's made McDonagh last season. For him to go from playing All-Star level hockey to this is ridiculous.
Ignore the 's.  
BrettNYG10 : 5/20/2015 11:15 pm : link
.
kid?  
B in ALB : 5/20/2015 11:15 pm : link
If you had said Hanlon, Healy, Weekes, Cloutier, or fuckin Vally it would have made more sense. But the Beez?

Terrible. Must be the only guy's name you could remember.
Hank has been bad the last two games  
nygmen84 : 5/20/2015 11:15 pm : link
There is no way to sugar coat or spin that. He deserves as much criticism as Nash, MSL, or McD. All of them having been getting smaller as the stakes have gotten higher.
WTF was that  
Sonic Youth : 5/20/2015 11:16 pm : link
What an awful game from Hank.

This makes game 3 a must win. We cannot expect to come back from 3-1 twice in a row.

What a disaster. Hank lost us this game.

I know I'm exaggerating but:  
Carl in CT : 5/20/2015 11:16 pm : link
We got that sieve for 6 more years at HUGE Money! Give me Cam or the cheap and go get some fire power on O!!!!!
As good as Brian #2 was  
Carl in CT : 5/20/2015 11:18 pm : link
Take Booooooook away and he would have suffered!
Id love to see  
MookGiants : 5/20/2015 11:19 pm : link
the tampa team from the first two rounds show up the rest of the series. That team is nothing like the one from last two games
RE: Kreider's  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 5/20/2015 11:19 pm : link
In comment 12295789 MookGiants said:
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worst game of the playoffs tonight, too. Was too worried about hitting people instead of playing a good game


He immaturely reacted to the big hit he took late. Gotta be smarter than that.
Not shitting on Hank  
Kyle in NY : 5/20/2015 11:20 pm : link
He just can't let in that many goals in two games. Felt like we were coming on in OT and then an awful goal ends it before we really got a chance. Those are the facts of it.

Nearly everybody played poorly tonight, so we probably got what we deserved. But it was still right there to steal and our best player let us down. That goal was brutal. Damn
Henriks best chance  
MookGiants : 5/20/2015 11:20 pm : link
to win a cup and hes been awful. So annoying
RE: kid?  
Giants2012 : 5/20/2015 11:21 pm : link
In comment 12295794 B in ALB said:
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If you had said Hanlon, Healy, Weekes, Cloutier, or fuckin Vally it would have made more sense. But the Beez?

Terrible. Must be the only guy's name you could remember.


Yeah, the Beez you f'ing moron. Your head must have been up your tail in the 80's as Johnny made saves standing on his and the let in goals that made fans shake their heads. Lundy just did the same. Now f-off
Should never lose  
benwa27 : 5/20/2015 11:21 pm : link
a game in which you score 5 goals.

Say what you want about Nash, but his lack of offense didn't lose us the game tonight.

Henrik hasn't been good enough. 12 goals allowed in two games should get you yanked.

McDonagh was an abomination tonight apart from his goal. Seemingly afraid to do anything remotely physical in the defensive end.

Didn't think Staal had a particularly great night either. Only Ranger at -2 on the night. Made two horrible plays in the offensive zone that led to goals. Missed the net all alone out front, puck comes flying out of the zone, Rangers scramble, Tampa Scores. On the 4 on 4 he threw a wild pass coming from behind the net, same result.

RE: I know I'm exaggerating but:  
Sonic Youth : 5/20/2015 11:21 pm : link
In comment 12295797 Carl in CT said:
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We got that sieve for 6 more years at HUGE Money! Give me Cam or the cheap and go get some fire power on O!!!!!


Sieve?? Oh my god shut the fuck up.

Maybe this team has our number, the way the Vikings had Eli's but sieve? Please, go fuck yourself or go root for another team.

Tonight isn't the night to be all butterflies and roses to Hank, but to call him a sieve is just fucking bullshit, regardless of your disclaimer.

My friends give me a lot of shit for being a negative Rangers fan, but calling Hank a sieve and implying we're "stuck" with him is fucking bullshit.
Can we just stop naming Ryan's to the captaincy?  
BrettNYG10 : 5/20/2015 11:25 pm : link
I hate McDonagh.
On a positive note  
redbeard : 5/20/2015 11:26 pm : link
Everyone chill the fuck out...we're going back at 2-2
this loss blows  
Sonic Youth : 5/20/2015 11:26 pm : link
I can't believe Hank played like that.

I am literally sick to my fucking stomach. We should have had this game.

Am I overreacting, or does this seem like a pivotal game that will cost us the series?

Are they in our head? Particularly Hanks? 12 goals in 6 games? I mean WTF.

This really really really sucks.
$8MM is a big cap hit  
MetsAreBack : 5/20/2015 11:28 pm : link
but the cap is supposed to be $70mm next year and go up rapidly from there.

Hank is a guy I gladly will live and die with.

Watching him suck this round is incredibly painful - especially since we know Tampa, NYI and a few other East teams are going to get better and better in coming years and will close the gap or accelerate past us shortly. The window is closing rapidly.

But he's still the guy i'll bet this franchise on the next few years. And in a strange way the way this series has gone is easier closure than last round, where you feel like Hank was personally robbed.

If we lose in the playoffs because of Hank - so be it. We lose because MSL sucks my asshole because shockingly Sather- he's old-- or Nash can't score or assist to save his life even in a 6-5 shootout... that's a lot tougher to stomach than this.
It feels like a gut punch of a loss..  
arcarsenal : 5/20/2015 11:29 pm : link
But this wasn't the pivotal game. Friday is.

Just win, baby.
This may sound crazy  
MookGiants : 5/20/2015 11:29 pm : link
but if Henrik has a rough start to game 4 i would pull him.
Stralman  
Marty866b : 5/20/2015 11:29 pm : link
Terrible decision to not resign him. He was great in the playoffs last season and WAY younger then Boyle.
Fucking split up the D pairing  
Anakim : 5/20/2015 11:30 pm : link
If I see Girardi out there with McDonagh, I'm gonna vomit



What a shitty 28 hours for New York teams. Rangers lose a heartbreaker. Knicks get the 4th pick and the Giants lose their starting Left Tackle.
RE: This may sound crazy  
Anakim : 5/20/2015 11:31 pm : link
In comment 12295816 MookGiants said:
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but if Henrik has a rough start to game 4 i would pull him.


Not crazy at all. I agree
Yay! More Stralman talk!  
Kyle in NY : 5/20/2015 11:32 pm : link
Fuck
Stralman was an awful decision  
MetsAreBack : 5/20/2015 11:34 pm : link
and when 99% of BBI knew it the day the assenine announcements were made... that's a fucking problem.

But to defend McD... its not like last year was his first good pro year. Stralman didn't make him ... cmon now.


For the love of me I cant understand why this team can't slow down TB or NYI. Those styles just drive us nuts and hemorrhage goals - even with Hank in net. Don't forget our wins against NYI came with Talbot in net. Hank just gets exposed big time as do our defenders by this style. So odd.
None of these defensive pairs are playing consistent  
Giants2012 : 5/20/2015 11:36 pm : link
and they all need help from back checking forwards.

RE: RE: kid?  
B in ALB : 5/20/2015 11:37 pm : link
In comment 12295805 Giants2012 said:
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If you had said Hanlon, Healy, Weekes, Cloutier, or fuckin Vally it would have made more sense. But the Beez?

Terrible. Must be the only guy's name you could remember.



Yeah, the Beez you f'ing moron. Your head must have been up your tail in the 80's as Johnny made saves standing on his and the let in goals that made fans shake their heads. Lundy just did the same. Now f-off


Your posts no matter what topic are awful. You're like a standing joke around here. Just disappear. No one will miss you.
And McDonagh was paired with Girardi last year  
Anakim : 5/20/2015 11:37 pm : link
Stralman with Staal
RE: RE: RE: kid?  
Giants2012 : 5/20/2015 11:42 pm : link
In comment 12295824 B in ALB said:
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In comment 12295805 Giants2012 said:


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In comment 12295794 B in ALB said:


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If you had said Hanlon, Healy, Weekes, Cloutier, or fuckin Vally it would have made more sense. But the Beez?

Terrible. Must be the only guy's name you could remember.



Yeah, the Beez you f'ing moron. Your head must have been up your tail in the 80's as Johnny made saves standing on his and the let in goals that made fans shake their heads. Lundy just did the same. Now f-off



Your posts no matter what topic are awful. You're like a standing joke around here. Just disappear. No one will miss you.


You're just a tampon with zero intelligence that need to be handheld, like a few, in any and messages. Hanlon, Weeks, etc, never reached the heights of Johnny or Lundy. Johnny made amazing saves and then coughed up so e laughers

Right to the achieve (not that you're head has any recall)

>>>Vanbiesbrouck was spectacular at times, fortunate at others. He fanned on a slap shot by Valery Zelepukin in the second period that hit the top of the left post and bounced up and away. He was rescued by a nifty defensive play from Mark Hardy, off a semi-breakaway. He made dramatic saves off Tom Chorske, Laurie Boschman, Stephane Richer and Randy McKay.<<<

yeah yeah yeah  
B in ALB : 5/20/2015 11:44 pm : link
Keep comparing Lundqvist to the Beezer after two bad games from both him and his defense.

Next thing we hear is that the Giant FO should have anticipated Beatty's injury. And you're the next Giants GM.

You're a fucking clownshow. Get lost.
RE: that's a fuckin terrible goal  
Giants2012 : 5/20/2015 11:45 pm : link
In comment 12295754 B in ALB said:
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holy shit.

Absolutely pathetic by Hank. He really shit the bed.

Horrific.


Your version of great posting and you call out others lol. F'ing moron
yeah I wasn't wrong  
B in ALB : 5/20/2015 11:47 pm : link
Unlike you. Always. Constantly. On every topic discussed here.

Again. Get lost.
gotta go clownshoes  
B in ALB : 5/20/2015 11:48 pm : link
Lettermans on.
RE: This may sound crazy  
Sonic Youth : 5/20/2015 11:49 pm : link
In comment 12295816 MookGiants said:
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but if Henrik has a rough start to game 4 i would pull him.

100% agree withthis.

Hank is our goalie. He will be our goalie while we have him. But this team his his number, they're in his head, and if we need Cam to come in against them, that's gotta be what we do.
Side step now?  
Giants2012 : 5/20/2015 11:51 pm : link
What's the matter wise ass? Just gave you a quote from the achives regarding Johnny being brilliant and then giving up a laugher just like Lundy has. Couldn't connect the dots Einstein?
Lundquist  
Marty866b : 5/20/2015 11:53 pm : link
Will not be pulled.Not that I agree or disagree with this,the Rangers will live or die with Henrik. Does he deserve this?Yeah.
RE: Lundquist  
Sonic Youth : 5/20/2015 11:54 pm : link
In comment 12295836 Marty866b said:
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Will not be pulled.Not that I agree or disagree with this,the Rangers will live or die with Henrik. Does he deserve this?Yeah.
I understand that it won't happen. I'm just saying that it should.

Then again, it took Cam a while to get rolling...
Hank got pulled against MTL last year in the ECF.  
arcarsenal : 5/20/2015 11:56 pm : link
It's not a foregone conclusion it won't happen again. If he gives up a couple early on Friday night I think it's something you have to seriously consider.

We cannot lose Friday night. This isn't a team we'll win 3 straight against.
Hank lost us the game tonight  
MetsAreBack : 5/20/2015 11:59 pm : link

but it's still his team. If he sucks the next two games and we get bounced in 5 ... then yeah, you have to make a decision about this team's path moving forward - Hank at $8.5mm/year for 6 years into his 40s or Cam at 1 yr and then ??

Personally I don't think this team has the talent up front to compete with NYI, Tampa and Pittsburgh (healthy) near-term, or Florida and some other teams longer-term, with Talbot in net and 1-2 forwards capable of 35-40 goals (one of whom is easily shut down come playoff time) over a full season where all tendencies are exposed - nor do I have the same confidence in a game 7... but with the cap as ridiculously low as it is, I guess it should be explored.

Just absolutely sucks that Hank is playing his worst playoff hockey now in a series when we needed him most (strange to say I know coming off 7 one-goal games in the Washington series). Tampa is our toughest test of the entire postseason, including Finals, and we needed him now more than ever. He's not only been less than elite, he's flat out sucked.
RE: Hank got pulled against MTL last year in the ECF.  
MetsAreBack : 5/21/2015 12:01 am : link
In comment 12295838 arcarsenal said:
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It's not a foregone conclusion it won't happen again. If he gives up a couple early on Friday night I think it's something you have to seriously consider.

We cannot lose Friday night. This isn't a team we'll win 3 straight against.


He got pulled in Philly game 6 last year too. The difference is we led 3-1 and 3-2 in those respective series. Now you pull him trailing 1-2 in a series, that could very well be it.

I personally think tonight's overtime was something we absolutely had to have. Hope i'm wrong, but I don't see this group coming back from this. There's always hope -- but we're playing a more talented team and on top of it our best players are playing awful hockey.
What constitutes getting off to a bad start?  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 5/21/2015 12:01 am : link
Allowing any goal at all? The first goal he's given up in the past 2 games followed massive clusterfucks at the blue line by MSL and Boyle. Would they yank him after something similar to that?


It just seems to me too many people in front of him are playing like dogshit to make it all about the goaltender.
RE: Hank got pulled against MTL last year in the ECF.  
Stufftherun : 5/21/2015 12:04 am : link
In comment 12295838 arcarsenal said:
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It's not a foregone conclusion it won't happen again. If he gives up a couple early on Friday night I think it's something you have to seriously consider.

We cannot lose Friday night. This isn't a team we'll win 3 straight against.


Rangers in 7?
I will tell you who is certainly getting pulled  
MetsAreBack : 5/21/2015 12:05 am : link
Brett.

Nice 1-2 playoff performance this year asshole.
The first goal tonight  
MookGiants : 5/21/2015 12:05 am : link
Was a pathetic effort from McDonagh but he did bat the puck right into Stamkos lap instead of freezing it
dont you have a 4 hour drive?  
MetsAreBack : 5/21/2015 12:08 am : link
drive safe dude. seriously
Hank has to win this game tonight  
Torrag : 5/21/2015 12:09 am : link
He let in a couple he should have and usually does stop. It's that simple. He needs to play better and I'm confident he will. This game is on him tonight. If he wants his Cup and his ring to cement his legacy he has to earn them night in and night out. I watched many goalies from Roy to Brodeur win Cups their teams had no business winning. Our team is good enough but Hank needs to lead the way for it to happen. This is his chance. He is the best goalie left in these playoffs if he doesn't bring home the Cup it's on him.
RE: RE: Hank got pulled against MTL last year in the ECF.  
arcarsenal : 5/21/2015 12:09 am : link
In comment 12295842 Stufftherun said:
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It's not a foregone conclusion it won't happen again. If he gives up a couple early on Friday night I think it's something you have to seriously consider.

We cannot lose Friday night. This isn't a team we'll win 3 straight against.



Rangers in 7?


6
This loss is gonna fucking linger  
Sonic Youth : 5/21/2015 12:10 am : link
We need some fresh blood for the game thread for Game 4. I nominate...myself.

RE: What constitutes getting off to a bad start?  
arcarsenal : 5/21/2015 12:12 am : link
In comment 12295841 shockeyisthebest8056 said:
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Allowing any goal at all? The first goal he's given up in the past 2 games followed massive clusterfucks at the blue line by MSL and Boyle. Would they yank him after something similar to that?


It just seems to me too many people in front of him are playing like dogshit to make it all about the goaltender.


I'm not saying you yank him if he gives up one goal. But if he gives up 2-3 early and they're pucks he should be stopping I think you at least consider making the change.

I wouldn't want to be in AV's shoes in that situation but we can't give another game away now.

Anyway. The Rangers are resilient. A lot of people turned this game off at 4-2 and we wound up in OT. Wish we stole it but we didn't. Now we have to take Game 4.

It's a 2-1 series right now. We're not quite in red alert territory just yet.
I'd feel better about this series  
MetsAreBack : 5/21/2015 12:16 am : link
if we didn't see this happen throughout the regular season against TB and NYI. They may not be in the players heads, but they're in mine (and I think they're in the players heads)

Its unfathomable to me that a team could score 5+ goals against Hank and this insane salary cap D$ 4 times in 6 games. And have a goalie now TEN and fucking ONE against us now too.

And they are only going to get better in coming years too. Our window is closing fast - I really wish our guys would step it the fuck up and starting playing their best fucking hockey of the season instead of this shitshow.

Was so damn optimistic after game 1 too. Damnit.
RE: RE: RE: Hank got pulled against MTL last year in the ECF.  
Stufftherun : 5/21/2015 12:18 am : link
In comment 12295848 arcarsenal said:
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In comment 12295838 arcarsenal said:


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It's not a foregone conclusion it won't happen again. If he gives up a couple early on Friday night I think it's something you have to seriously consider.

We cannot lose Friday night. This isn't a team we'll win 3 straight against.



Rangers in 7?



6


Based on your above assessment that "this isn't a team we'll win 3 straight against", winning the series in 6 appears to be mathematically really, really difficult.
This is probably  
MookGiants : 5/21/2015 12:20 am : link
our best chance to get one. Our team is not going to get better, only worse, while everyone around us gets better
One thing is certain  
Sonic Youth : 5/21/2015 12:26 am : link
All you psychopaths saying Rangers in 5 after game 1 were out of your fucking minds. I have no idea how people jumped to that conclusion.
MSL has to be benched  
MetsAreBack : 5/21/2015 12:29 am : link
has to. AV has to be bold here - either go 7 D with hunwick and hybrid yandle or bring up Lindberg - don't care... but time to take this guy off the ice. seriously.
RE: This is probably  
Sonic Youth : 5/21/2015 12:31 am : link
In comment 12295855 MookGiants said:
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our best chance to get one. Our team is not going to get better, only worse, while everyone around us gets better

I don't think it's a foregone conclusion that we will get worse. Our team is still relatively young. Kreider still has room to develop, as do some other young plays we have (Step, Fast, etc).

Obviously Hank isn't getting younger which could be a problem, but if we hang onto Cam, we could have them split more time between them.

Having said that, everyone in the East is going to improve, and I think they will improve more than us. They will close the gap on us.

Never say never though. Just gotta get hot once.
Agree with MAB on quite a few points ...  
Stufftherun : 5/21/2015 1:01 am : link
we haven't fared well against this team all year and these games are reminiscent of the regular season loses. The Lightning may not be a very structurally disciplined team at this juncture but they've got more than enough fire power to overcome their mistakes. Their head coach, and I agree with Arc, has a smarmy way about him and I often get the feeling he's in over his head, but he's certainly in the right place at the right time. He too can make mistakes on the job and his team will bail him out more often than not.

As far as our Blueshirts go, we've got a nice balance of veteran leadership and youth but our veteran forwards that we count on to produce in the post season (and you know who they are) are either finished or just not suited for playoff style hockey. I hate admitting that but we've all seen the body of work.

Love the nucleus of Kreids, Brass, Zuccie, Step, JT, Hayes, Hags and Fast but outside of them we'll need some more skilled forwards who can create and find the net as well as needing some jam to bull our way through 4 playoff series. Buchnevich's status is a bit unknown. As MAB alluded to, the window is closing and it appears we'll need more to compete with the up and coming conference rivals ...having to scratch out low scoring, one goal games all the way to a cup is asking an awful lot.

The backline is obviously very solid but we all know it's not going to look the same in 2015 - 2016 and 2016 - 2017. Hope Skjei can step in the next year or 2 and be counted on but that too is an unknown. Not sure The Rath is an answer but I sure am rooting for him.

I know the series isn't over but we apoear to have a serious uphill climb even if it is only 2 games to 1.

Let's Go Rangers!
Fuck  
MookGiants : 5/21/2015 4:06 am : link
That drive was awful. So boring and i just kept replaying the game over and over in my head.

I nominate redbeard for game 4 thread
Fuck  
MookGiants : 5/21/2015 4:08 am : link
That drive was awful. So boring and i just kept replaying the game over and over in my head.

I nominate redbeard for game 4 thread
This team was 1:20 from ending their season  
Headhunter : 5/21/2015 6:35 am : link
Down 2-1 is I their comfort zone. They don't have the team DNA to make things easy
C'mon..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 5/21/2015 7:20 am : link
look at the goals from last night against the Rangers. The OT winner should have been stopped, but most every other goal is a function of horrific D and great TB passing.

You can't put that on Hank.

The main issue to me is that Bishop gives up rebounds on nearly every shot and the Rangers aren't capitalizing enough on their chances while TB is.
....  
BrettNYG10 : 5/21/2015 7:22 am : link
If Lundqvist and McDonagh played well, they would have won that game. Fucking infuriating seeing these guys suck last night.

Elliotte Friedman's 30 thoughts comment mentioned that a TB player told him game 6 against MTL was their best game of the season. The team is obviously playing with a lot of confidence and playing much superior hockey relative to the rest of the playoffs. However, last night was just as much on the Rangers' consistent fuck-ups defensively and in net as it was on TB's skill.

TB in 5, MAB will win his millions.
Lundqvist's pass to Stamkos was also on him.  
BrettNYG10 : 5/21/2015 7:23 am : link
And he's played to be elite and make absurdly difficult saves. Six goals is unacceptable.

And Bishop sucked too.
paid.*  
BrettNYG10 : 5/21/2015 7:24 am : link
To early for this shit.
.....  
BrettNYG10 : 5/21/2015 7:28 am : link
I found an article that I think Kyle in NY will like a lot.
TSN - ( New Window )
Wait a second  
Headhunter : 5/21/2015 7:29 am : link
Are you suggesting that the Rangers would have been playing last night if Lundquist wasn't playing at an elite level until game 2? Selective memory at its best. Yeah he was lousy last night, but there is no last night without him
RE: Wait a second  
BrettNYG10 : 5/21/2015 7:31 am : link
In comment 12295927 Headhunter said:
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Are you suggesting that the Rangers would have been playing last night if Lundquist wasn't playing at an elite level until game 2? Selective memory at its best. Yeah he was lousy last night, but there is no last night without him


I'm unclear on what you're asking? I'm saying the Rangers would have won last night if he played well. Completely agreed that we would have been ousted in round two if he didn't play great then.
RE: .....  
Kyle in NY : 5/21/2015 7:36 am : link
In comment 12295926 BrettNYG10 said:
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I found an article that I think Kyle in NY will like a lot. TSN - ( New Window )


haha well played. It's not that I necessarily think we made the right decision on Stralman/Boyle, just that what's done is done. We're still at this point, not going to get him back. So let's accept what we have.

But it is a discussion board, no harm in discussing it. Just wish we had more positives to work with at this point.
What I am trying to say  
Headhunter : 5/21/2015 7:37 am : link
is that Lunquist has bailed them out and saved their bacon that in the rare playoff games when he needs them to bail him out they didn't
....  
BrettNYG10 : 5/21/2015 7:44 am : link
I totally understand your frustration, Kyle, but it's a decision I think could be Cup-costing - and I've probably been Boyle's biggest supporter here.

I think the Rangers start restricting the defensemen's ability to pinch in the offensive zone - McDonagh is brilliant at picking his spots to pinch to generate chances, but guys like Girardi and Staal can't be caught deep.

Also, the Rangers seemed to start playing a bit 'deeper' defensively in the neutral zone in the third to keep shots to the outside which should make a difference over the course of a game.
RE: What I am trying to say  
Essex : 5/21/2015 7:51 am : link
In comment 12295931 Headhunter said:
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is that Lunquist has bailed them out and saved their bacon that in the rare playoff games when he needs them to bail him out they didn't


I love hank and totally agree that he has bailed them out countless times. But that is what makes him a star, the offense gave him 5 goals last night, that should be enough of a bail out.
RE: I will tell you who is certainly getting pulled  
BrettNYG10 : 5/21/2015 7:52 am : link
In comment 12295843 MetsAreBack said:
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Brett.

Nice 1-2 playoff performance this year asshole.


I'm 2-4
Yup  
redbeard : 5/21/2015 8:22 am : link
This one still sucks

Team better wake the fuck up and come out flying Friday. Coming back from 3-1 back to back isn't gonna happen
RE: Yup  
YAJ2112 : 5/21/2015 8:35 am : link
In comment 12295961 redbeard said:
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This one still sucks

Team better wake the fuck up and come out flying Friday. Coming back from 3-1 back to back isn't gonna happen


They came out flying in game 3. What they need to do is get their defensive zone coverage straightened out, right now they are running around instead of manning up.
FatMan  
Matt M. : 5/21/2015 8:36 am : link
A couple of the Rangers goals were off rebounds. Plus, Bishop generally controls the puck with his glove and passes well out of the net. It isn't like he is usually a rebound machine.
They seem to be a step behind against this team. I don't  
Victor in CT : 5/21/2015 8:43 am : link
know if they can keep up. The Bolts are something when they get rolling.
RE: What I am trying to say  
MetsAreBack : 5/21/2015 8:44 am : link
In comment 12295931 Headhunter said:
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is that Lunquist has bailed them out and saved their bacon that in the rare playoff games when he needs them to bail him out they didn't



No question on the first part. And no BBI'er would pretend we'd be here without Hank's performance against the Caps.

But they gave him 5 goals last night - they did bail him out. And he proceeded to give up an incredibly soft OT goal 3 minutes in anyway.

We blame Sather for a lot around here, and I still maintain some of recent moves leave a lot to be desired. But what this team really misses are stars that play like stars when the stakes are highest. And I'm not sure what the guy can do - he tried to bring in Gaborik, the guy tore labrums every postseason and refused to play defense at critical times. He brings in Nash who now has fewer goals than Jesper Fast and Ryan McDonaugh. Hank as much as i love him, he played great last year against MTL and LA... but two years ago against NJ and now this? He's been anything but elite in 2 of the 4 biggest series he's ever played.

It's a cruel joke.

Is what it is - we cannot match their skill. I dont know how we're going to win 3 of 4. Defense needs to tighten up, we have to get MSL out of the lineup, Zuccs needs to be back by game 5 at the very latest, and Hank literally has to stand on his head from here on out.

Still hope, but last night was devastating in a lot of ways.
It wouldn't have been a crime to let Talbot start the 3rd period  
Victor in CT : 5/21/2015 8:46 am : link
Maybe it would have shaken them up a little, given Lundqvist a break.
and for God's sake scratch St. Louis already. He has had it.  
Victor in CT : 5/21/2015 8:47 am : link
He is pathetic out there.
.....  
BrettNYG10 : 5/21/2015 8:48 am : link
You're being way too negative, MAB.

Quit talking your book.
RE: It wouldn't have been a crime to let Talbot start the 3rd period  
YAJ2112 : 5/21/2015 8:49 am : link
In comment 12296006 Victor in CT said:
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Maybe it would have shaken them up a little, given Lundqvist a break.


Yes it would have been a crime. This is just stupid.
The only thing we couldn't do..  
arcarsenal : 5/21/2015 8:51 am : link
.. was go back home down 3-1 in the series.

Unrealistic to think we'd take both in Tampa. Just needed to split.

Yeah, it would have been easier to get the W last night and play with house money somewhat tomorrow but it didn't happen that way. Now we have to get it tomorrow.

Tampa isn't some unbeatable juggernaut. Good team. The Rangers can beat them.
Talbot kind of opens up a can of worms  
MetsAreBack : 5/21/2015 8:51 am : link
you never know with the playoffs especially against a high powered team.

Lets remember his one playoff experience last year in game 5 Montreal - he stunk

He stunk his first week or two taking over for Hank this February before he settled in.

I'm not sure he's a guy you can throw in a fire and expect a good outcome. I'd also rather not potentially taint his trade value this offseason by exposing him to maybe a bad playoff game. (although on that point i'm not sure what exactly a guy with one year left on his deal and one month starting experience will net you in trade.. this is not exactly Cory Schneider or Ryan Miller we are talking about here. Low 1st from St Louis or High 2nd round pick and maybe a solid 3rd line Wing?
RE: .....  
MetsAreBack : 5/21/2015 8:53 am : link
In comment 12296009 BrettNYG10 said:
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You're being way too negative, MAB.

Quit talking your book.


It will fund my vacation to Aruba next spring. Not kidding.


(fuck... I'd rather attend a Rangers parade and be there next October for the banner raising, Goddamnit)
seriously  
Greg from LI : 5/21/2015 8:55 am : link
The outcome sucked, but they fought back from 2-4 and 4-5. Ain't nothing over yet, and you greatly overestimate Tampa as a team.
RE: seriously  
BrettNYG10 : 5/21/2015 8:59 am : link
In comment 12296020 Greg from LI said:
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The outcome sucked, but they fought back from 2-4 and 4-5. Ain't nothing over yet, and you greatly overestimate Tampa as a team.


Yeah, I said the Rangers lost that game just as much as Tampa won it. Credit to them for taking advantage of the Rangers' plethora of fuck-ups, but Tampa is beatable.

Bishop played worse than Lundqvist last night.
I will say..  
arcarsenal : 5/21/2015 9:07 am : link
I get a kick out of the posters who weren't on Ranger threads all year, show up in the playoffs and then at the first sign of adversity go into "GAME OVER. SERIES OVER. SEASON OVER." mode.

Good stuff.
.....  
BrettNYG10 : 5/21/2015 9:08 am : link
BTW, I try hard not to project emotions on players since I don't know shit, but I felt Lundqvist looked really shaky during all three games. He's flopping around and no longer playing his strong technical game.

Also, he's due for a fucking shutout. Averaged one every 9.2 games this regular season and hasn't had one yet these playoffs.
yep.....lot of unfamiliar handles in this thread  
Greg from LI : 5/21/2015 9:09 am : link
The pathetic thing is that most of those clowns don't even show up in the threads for playoff wins, only losses so they can piss and moan.
Since the Playoffs Started has...  
mvftw : 5/21/2015 9:10 am : link
Nash taken a SlapShot...
Staal taken the Body...
RE: seriously  
MetsAreBack : 5/21/2015 9:12 am : link
In comment 12296020 Greg from LI said:
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The outcome sucked, but they fought back from 2-4 and 4-5. Ain't nothing over yet, and you greatly overestimate Tampa as a team.


Their one weakness is their inexperience. Even the coach says "we're only in year 2 of this thing" They arent particularly deep on the blue line, and they arent particularly battle tested.

You beat them with experience and attention to detail. My concerns is we havent done that all year against these mother fuckers... for whatever reason... and for reasons i dont understand, we just havent looked right this entire postseason.

Nice comeback against Washington - but come on, that series never should have been so close. They have 2 maybe 3 guys on their entire roster that can score and they dont have a top pair D-unit.

My only conclusion is that our stars havent played like stars - Nash, MSL, McD. Maybe they can turn it around, but clock is ticking boys - its been 15 games now. Get your heads out of your asses.
Look at the D in front of King...  
FatMan in Charlotte : 5/21/2015 9:13 am : link
he's flopping around because they keep giving up cross passes to wide open guys in a scoring position.

It is a combination of terrible D and crisp passing that is killing the Rangers right now. Bottom line is that TB is converting a lot of open looks while the Rangers aren't. MSL whiffed on an open look and we continue to have those 1-2 breakaways a game that aren't converted.

Lundquist gave up a soft OT goal, but he's not been terrible. The high goal totals are a combination of too many PP chances and a D that is having problems with gap control. In the past two games, he's had a bunch of pucks get behind him that he any goalie would have a difficult time stopping.
Fact of the matter is  
gmen9892 : 5/21/2015 9:14 am : link
We needed to come back to MSG 2-2 to take home-ice advantage back. Hank knows more than anyone how bad he is playing right now and he is the ultimate competitor. I want to believe that he and the defense cant get their shit together and right this ship. The offense is coming around.

This team has had their backs against the wall before, and more often than not, they have responded. I am going to give them the benefit of the doubt here. Just take Game 4 and all will be right again.
If Detroit can take this team to 7 games  
RB^2 : 5/21/2015 9:14 am : link
The Rangers certainly have a shot. Unless Brett fucks everything up as usual.
the Rangers do tend to go through spells like this  
Greg from LI : 5/21/2015 9:16 am : link
Where it looks like none of the defensemen have played together in their lives. It's irritating. Good for Tampa for taking advantage, but the Rangers are making it easy for them.
RE: RE: I will tell you who is certainly getting pulled  
yankeeslover : 5/21/2015 9:19 am : link
In comment 12295943 BrettNYG10 said:
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Brett.

Nice 1-2 playoff performance this year asshole.



I'm 2-4

I thinks it's Arcs turn. He is 3-1. Bring it home tomorrow night Arc.
Arc just gave a guy 4 brain surgeries  
MetsAreBack : 5/21/2015 9:20 am : link
and God willing hopefully he can walk again one day.

No thanks - Fear the Beard.
What FMiC said  
RB^2 : 5/21/2015 9:21 am : link
There have been several occasions where TB swung the puck to a wide open guy on the right circle who unloaded it towards an open net, more in game 2 than game 3 IIRC.
It's like the Rangers are still getting used to TB's speed after those plodding series against Pitt and Washington.
RE: What FMiC said  
Giants2012 : 5/21/2015 9:24 am : link
In comment 12296061 RB^2 said:
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There have been several occasions where TB swung the puck to a wide open guy on the right circle who unloaded it towards an open net, more in game 2 than game 3 IIRC.
It's like the Rangers are still getting used to TB's speed after those plodding series against Pitt and Washington.


They play like the old Penguins. Everybody looks to cut to the net.
I think it's time for me to Haig this bitch  
Greg from LI : 5/21/2015 9:27 am : link
As of now, I'm in control here at the Rangers threads

We probably can't match Tampa up front  
Kyle in NY : 5/21/2015 9:29 am : link
at least with the confidence they're playing with right now compared to how our top forwards are playing.

But we are capable of defending at a much higher level than them. Their Stralman/Hedman pair is excellent. It's pedestrian beyond that on D. We should be the better defensive team. We saw it in game 1 (which feels like a lifetime ago now). It is possible against this group. But that one fucking line is just killing us.

My point is, we know our group is capable of preventing goals at a higher level than this. We just saw it as recently as two games ago. This is still a competitive and very winnable series if we can get back to that.

Don't forget, we still put up 5 on them last night. Bishop can be beaten and when we get the forecheck working on their D, we generate a ton of chances. Powerplay has been very successful too in this series.
RE: We probably can't match Tampa up front  
MetsAreBack : 5/21/2015 9:33 am : link
In comment 12296077 Kyle in NY said:
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Don't forget, we still put up 5 on them last night. Bishop can be beaten and when we get the forecheck working on their D, we generate a ton of chances. Powerplay has been very successful too in this series.



That forecheck is both helping and hurting though right? When it doesnt generate the turnover or disrupt, they are generating odd man rushes and converting at an unbelievably high clip.

Honestly, when your goalie is playing poorly, AV's system - which i otherwise like - can look ugly at times. We rely so much on Hank back there and he usually delivers. ughh.

And man we need Zuccs to come in and replace MSL. I need some good news today - he travelled with the team, maybe he'll skate with the team today or something.
But..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 5/21/2015 9:35 am : link
Hank isn't playing poorly. He just hasn't been super-human the past two games. You can't go by goal totals alone to evaluate goalie play.

Other than the OT goal, it is hard to find "soft" goals he's allowed.
Hank definitely played poorly last night.  
BrettNYG10 : 5/21/2015 9:42 am : link
The Stamkos goal, OT goal, and one other (I want to say the third goal) were stoppable.
He didnt play well monday either  
MetsAreBack : 5/21/2015 9:49 am : link
elite goalies that "deserve" Cups play their best in these moments. To date, he has not. There is still time.


Not that monday mattered anyway - he could have held them to 4 and we still would have been beaten easily.
Basically, he's no Eli.... yet  
MetsAreBack : 5/21/2015 9:52 am : link
we really need him to get going and steal us some games
Hank looked a bit shaken during  
B in ALB : 5/21/2015 9:53 am : link
the post game interview. Almost as if he couldn't believe what just happened. And his track record of giving up 5+ goals against TB is not good.

All that said, he'll be fine and I fully expect this team to come out flying and take Game 4.
For Christ's sake..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 5/21/2015 9:54 am : link
over his career, Henrik has "stolen" plenty of games. Expecting him to be perfect just reeks of ignoring that the D is the larger issue here.
LoLHank  
Fish : 5/21/2015 9:54 am : link
Recognize my handle bitch
RE: Arc just gave a guy 4 brain surgeries  
arcarsenal : 5/21/2015 9:56 am : link
In comment 12296060 MetsAreBack said:
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and God willing hopefully he can walk again one day.

No thanks - Fear the Beard.


Blame Ryan McDonagh.

You know, the guy who lifted Hank's mask just enough to let the puck almost kill him, the guy who sniped Zuccarello in the back of the head, fell asleep at the wheel in the closing seconds of Game 1 vs WSH and the guy who has fucking sucked for the majority of the playoffs.

Someone needs to take fuckin' control here. I got this shit.
RE: RE: We probably can't match Tampa up front  
Kyle in NY : 5/21/2015 9:57 am : link
In comment 12296081 MetsAreBack said:
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Don't forget, we still put up 5 on them last night. Bishop can be beaten and when we get the forecheck working on their D, we generate a ton of chances. Powerplay has been very successful too in this series.




That forecheck is both helping and hurting though right? When it doesnt generate the turnover or disrupt, they are generating odd man rushes and converting at an unbelievably high clip.

Honestly, when your goalie is playing poorly, AV's system - which i otherwise like - can look ugly at times. We rely so much on Hank back there and he usually delivers. ughh.

And man we need Zuccs to come in and replace MSL. I need some good news today - he travelled with the team, maybe he'll skate with the team today or something.


Yeah I don't wanna say we should start playing Trotz or Torts style hockey and just clog it up. Because that's not this team's style and it's not what got us here. But maybe the pinching should be limited to guys like McD, who has the skating ability to do it. Or guys like Boyle, who has shown pretty good instincts for it and has actually scored some net front goals, like last night.

We're just giving up way too many breaks or odd man rushes the other way and it feels like they're literally scoring on every one of them.

That top line is just way too comfortable right now. I would say to get physical with them, but that's not really how our D plays. And we saw what happened when Kreider when out of his way to hit one of them on the 5th goal.
I can't come out and blast Hank  
Matt M. : 5/21/2015 9:58 am : link
He had some games that were the primary reason we are even still playing. That said, he does deserve some blame. There is no question the D played terrbily in Games 2 and 3. However, a few of those goals were ones Hank should have stopped and normally would have stopped, regardless of the play in front of him. But, there is no way in Hell I have anyone but him in net for any remaining games. And, as long as the Rangers keep a game close, I am not pulling him either.
RE: For Christ's sake..  
BrettNYG10 : 5/21/2015 9:58 am : link
In comment 12296142 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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over his career, Henrik has "stolen" plenty of games. Expecting him to be perfect just reeks of ignoring that the D is the larger issue here.


No one's expecting him to be perfect. But he sucked last night. Both him and the D were huge issues last night.
I think Hank has had plenty of "Eli moments"  
Kyle in NY : 5/21/2015 10:00 am : link
His game 7 record is practically superhuman. It just hasn't all come together for his teams at the same time to result in the ultimate goal, for whatever reason.

His playoff numbers are excellent across a large sample size. He just had a bad game last night. It doesn't have to be more than that. Unfortunately it came at a terrible time.
RE: RE: Arc just gave a guy 4 brain surgeries  
BrettNYG10 : 5/21/2015 10:00 am : link
In comment 12296146 arcarsenal said:
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In comment 12296060 MetsAreBack said:


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and God willing hopefully he can walk again one day.

No thanks - Fear the Beard.



Blame Ryan McDonagh.

You know, the guy who lifted Hank's mask just enough to let the puck almost kill him, the guy who sniped Zuccarello in the back of the head, fell asleep at the wheel in the closing seconds of Game 1 vs WSH and the guy who has fucking sucked for the majority of the playoffs.

Someone needs to take fuckin' control here. I got this shit.


Fell asleep in game 1, made a shit effort on Ovechkin's goal in game 2, had a terrible turnover that led to the GWG in game 4, made numerous terrible plays (and terrible turnovers that eventually led to a PP TB scored on) last night...
I disagree..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 5/21/2015 10:00 am : link
that he sucked. The OT goal was a killer and shouldn't have gotten past him, but he stopped a breakaway moments before. TB is literally shooting on him at point blank range for most of the game and is getting wide open looks. Very few goalies can stop those shots.

If a guy has time to pinpoint his location and shoot it with speed, there is little Hank can do. That's on the D.
Some of you guys need to step back from the ledge  
mfsd : 5/21/2015 10:01 am : link
yes, last night was a gut shot, and seeing Hank turn in back to back clunkers is weird to all of us

But this series is far from over. We tighten things up a bit, win game 4, then face a 3 game series with 2 games at home

Yes, it sucks that the 2 big guns we brought in who were supposed to deliver this time of year (Nash and MSL) are MIA...but it's also been fun to see guys like Stepan, Brassard, Moore, and Fast grow up during these playoffs
It's not one or the other  
Kyle in NY : 5/21/2015 10:02 am : link
the D was sloppy and poor and Hank played bad too. He did have some nice saves when Tampa was really pressing. But 6 goals is what it is. Too many.
FMiC  
MetsAreBack : 5/21/2015 10:02 am : link
my man-crush on Lundqvist is thoroughly unhealthy. There hasnt been an athlete i wanted to see win a trophy more than this in maybe my lifetime (Eli was still pretty young when he won his).

He's awesome - he's the only reason we're here - he's stolen us lots of games in the past. No one is disputing any of this.

But they scored him 5 goals last night - legends and champions dont blow that. He did. He's still got a chance to get us back in this thing, and hopefully he will.

win or lose, I still love the guy and want him to retire a Ranger. That's not the point.
RE: I think it's time for me to Haig this bitch  
Deej : 5/21/2015 10:03 am : link
In comment 12296073 Greg from LI said:
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As of now, I'm in control here at the Rangers threads


Alex?

You're like the talking mailbox.
The first goal was really bad too, not just the OT goal  
MetsAreBack : 5/21/2015 10:06 am : link

He gave up 6 goals, at least two of them were directly his fault and the other 4 - well there is a very fine line between Champions and really, really good players.

Yes, the D can be better in front of him too.


I dont doubt a lot of this is bad luck - i just think Champions rise to the occassion and play their best when the stakes are highest. Eli has. Jeter & Rivera have. I'd love Hank to join that company.
RE: The first goal was really bad too, not just the OT goal  
LawrenceTaylor56 : 5/21/2015 10:27 am : link
In comment 12296174 MetsAreBack said:
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I dont doubt a lot of this is bad luck - i just think Champions rise to the occassion and play their best when the stakes are highest. Eli has. Jeter & Rivera have. I'd love Hank to join that company.


Pretty must spot on and I agree with your passion for seeing Henrik win one. It's a 7 game series. He'll bounce back. Don't forget Rivera also blown a couple saves that would have gotten the Yanks another shot at adding another ring. He bounced back. So will Henrik.

Rangers in 7.
RE: RE: It wouldn't have been a crime to let Talbot start the 3rd period  
Victor in CT : 5/21/2015 11:21 am : link
In comment 12296010 YAJ2112 said:
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Maybe it would have shaken them up a little, given Lundqvist a break.



Yes it would have been a crime. This is just stupid.


Really, you've never seen a team do that? Give their # 1 a break when losing late in the hope it creates a spark? And give their #1 a breather?

And could the outcome have been worse?
RE: RE: RE: It wouldn't have been a crime to let Talbot start the 3rd period  
YAJ2112 : 5/21/2015 12:01 pm : link
In comment 12296339 Victor in CT said:
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Maybe it would have shaken them up a little, given Lundqvist a break.



Yes it would have been a crime. This is just stupid.



Really, you've never seen a team do that? Give their # 1 a break when losing late in the hope it creates a spark? And give their #1 a breather?

And could the outcome have been worse?


You've seen this in a one goal game where it's a HOF level goalie getting pulled?
Can pj please pick TB to win now?  
BrettNYG10 : 5/21/2015 12:04 pm : link
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Zuccs is skating with the team's extras at practice this afternoon  
Mad Mike : 5/21/2015 2:02 pm : link
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Lundqvist and the D  
Percy : 5/21/2015 2:17 pm : link
Lightening power play has been superb, not just against the Rangers, but everybody. I've never seen Lundqvist let in so many goals in back to back games -- but, even if he put together two games where he was less than great, I do not think it's all on him. The D just has to be better. Those passes in the Rangers' end have to be interrupted, challenged more. Game four is pretty much a must win.
LOLHank  
Fish : 5/21/2015 2:18 pm : link
#pekkarinneownsyou
Listening to Francessa  
batman11 : 5/21/2015 3:01 pm : link
try to talk about hockey is high comedy. They should tape him to the cage, like in the Mighty Ducks movie, nobody would ever score on him.
How to slow down Tampa  
Giants2012 : 5/21/2015 3:11 pm : link
Maybe we missed the obvious people?

Steve Yzerman is from Detroit.

More importantly than the offense he's implemented is how Detroit would counter teams doing the same thing.

Anybody remember Scotty Bowman's famous Left Wing Lock he introduced to Steve Yzerman's Red Wings?
LWL Solution - ( New Window )
Henrik  
KWhite2250 : 5/21/2015 3:35 pm : link
Will go down as the greatest Rangers player whether he gets a cup or not. He's done everything he can possibly do to win a cup. He had 2 bad games back to back, shit happens. Dont quite get the if he deserves a cup he needs to step up.

FMIC is right with the defense being bad. Your team wanted to play this style of hockey but maybe they should try to change it to the grinding playoff hockey that they have dominated the past few years in the playoffs. If they can get into that style vs tampa they could probably be winning 3-1 games. Bishop can be beat.
Then again  
Giants2012 : 5/21/2015 5:18 pm : link
quite a few might not understand or know what the LWL is.
kwhite  
MetsAreBack : 5/21/2015 5:28 pm : link
he's up there and i know the Rangers have a pretty sad history so bar fairly low..... but "Greatest Ranger ever"?

I do think you've still got to win one to claim that. Whether its his fault or whatever, that's just the way it is. Many people i know still consider Richter to be the best Rangers goalie ever, let alone player.

Ridiculous, I know - Richter for his career was 90% save pct and 2.9 GAA... but this business is about championships, fair or unfair. Is what it is.

Same thing with Ewing.
You can blame both the D and G.  
BrettNYG10 : 5/21/2015 6:47 pm : link
I've ripped on both. Both were terrible last night.

Also, I'd put Moore on the power play instead of St. Louis and have him take faceoffs. It seems like the team seldom wins facoffs on the power play.
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