NFT: MetS Minors 5/20/2015

Altuve is hitting .317 Marisnick .292

Just a fucking total lack of knowledge about any sport, it's blinding to be so stupid

Springer .183
Gattis .191
Valbuena .207
Rasmus .242
Castro .223
Carter .162
Gonzalws.228

would you agree that they could have spent the aggregate 82M they spent on CG and MC the past 2 years better (25M/year)?

We never know their full payroll flexibility/budget, we never know the alternatives that were on the table for them so unfortunately the only way WE can judge some of the moves the team makes is in hindsight after seeing things play out publicly. Knowing how much they committed to (and still are committed to) I think they could have made some smarter acquisitions with the resources they used.

The key to this entire year would be Duda. He's been good but he isn't hitting for power. We are in deep shit if he isn't the slugger we thought he was and I have to say I'm pretty disappointed so far. Too many players are underperforming with two of our big bats out and yes Cuddyer is as well.

In comment 12294531 ZGiants98 said:

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but what were we supposed to do? Not re-sign Wright? The backlash from that would have been something the organization would have never been able to recover from.

oh the drama!!!!! Yeah, the organization never survived losing Seaver, Ryan, Strawberry, Reyes, etc, etc, etc. Just couldn't lose Wright my @ss. Now he's old and 3rd is a mess.

In comment 12294548 Headhunter said:

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Altuve is hitting .317 Marisnick .292 Just a fucking total lack of knowledge about any sport, it's blinding to be so stupid Springer .183 Gattis .191 Valbuena .207 Rasmus .242 Castro .223 Carter .162 Gonzalws.228

Might want to check that head for a brain with Correa and others on the way while your just removed from predicting Granderson would bat .285 Like others have said, you're the dumbest on the site.

In comment 12294549 Eric on Li said:

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would you agree that they could have spent the aggregate 82M they spent on CG and MC the past 2 years better (25M/year)? We never know their full payroll flexibility/budget, we never know the alternatives that were on the table for them so unfortunately the only way WE can judge some of the moves the team makes is in hindsight after seeing things play out publicly. Knowing how much they committed to (and still are committed to) I think they could have made some smarter acquisitions with the resources they used.

Right. And I honestly can't answer that right now. Granderson has been pretty good and I still think he's going to have a very solid 2015 when its all said and done. Cuddyer needs to pick it up and if he does then he'll look good too. Colon has obviously paid off. We'll see. I think they were all three of the best options available at the time and we desperately needed them to plug obvious holes so I can't fault the signings yet. They are all band aids and supposed to bridge a gap so some might work out, some might not. We'll see.

dumb as rocks

He could've been helping his club but instead he is rotting away his baseball career.

The Mets have zero outfield prospects since Lastings Milledge

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Finish with one of the worst record in baseball for 5 years and pick 1 or 2 for 5 years and you wait 5 years and hope your picks pan out.Brilliant!

after wright and d'Arnaud are back as he was doing ok when they were in there.

In comment 12294753 CGiants07 said:

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after wright and d'Arnaud are back as he was doing ok when they were in there.

Not looking to pile on Cuddyer but he really wasn't "doing okay", his BABIP was over .400, he was getting extremely lucky on balls in play.

In comment 12294753 CGiants07 said:

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after wright and d'Arnaud are back as he was doing ok when they were in there.

That's what I'm thinking too. Classic first year in NY, other players are out, so try to do too much and overcompensate. Granderson for the first 6 weeks last year as well. I think he'll benefit a ton with Wright and TDA back. These injuries have been very unfortunate.

only 3/4 of the season left for some guys to turn it around, I don't know if they have enough time to get on track

In comment 12294622 Headhunter said:

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Finish with one of the worst record in baseball for 5 years and pick 1 or 2 for 5 years and you wait 5 years and hope your picks pan out.Brilliant!

Exactly, that's the Mets plan. In fact, the Mets plan is worse. They kept a few vets around so they could finish with a miserable record but miss out on the top 5. Now they have two old corner outfielders and despite a few morons thinking that Grandy will bat .285 are in worse shape. Brilliant.

In comment 12294759 DanMetroMan said:

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In comment 12294753 CGiants07 said: Quote: after wright and d'Arnaud are back as he was doing ok when they were in there. Not looking to pile on Cuddyer but he really wasn't "doing okay", his BABIP was over .400, he was getting extremely lucky on balls in play.

Eh. 9 days ago his wRC+ was still at 100. He absolutely needs to play better but he had a couple spurts early on where it seemed like he was about to come alive. It just hasn't happened.

rate stats look in line with what you would expect. BABIP, BB %, his k-rate is up but that's not uncommon at all for a 36 year old. He hasn't been unlucky or anything, he just hasn't been very good. Why he hasn't been very good is another story.

with the one of the worst records in baseball and draft high for years. Yes or No?

BABIP in minnesota 08-2011 was sub-.300 so it's important to remember his average (and BABIP) in Colorado should not have been expected. Slow players almost never maintain a high BABIP, Colorado has a HUGE OF which inflates BABIP's, if his average is going to climb it will be from striking out less. Would be great to see him being "unlucky" but that's just not the case with him.

In comment 12294776 Headhunter said:

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only 3/4 of the season left for some guys to turn it around, I don't know if they have enough time to get on track

Well I'm still taking solace in the fact that we've been playing with a roster ravaged with injuries and are tied for first place with the team everyone picked to win the WS. We still have things to look forward to on top of getting healthy, such as Matz. I still think we'll be in the mix at the end.

and even the timelines for those that do make it to the majors can vary so much that it is one sport where purposely finishing poorly with the idea of building a contender IMO is not the best plan.

It's one thing if you adjust expectations and think Duda hits twenty something home runs but he's on pace for 12! He has to do better than that. In fact he was the one true difference maker in this lineup prior to 2015 IMO.

I don't look at trends or try to project what will happen, I looked at the standings today and am happy where the season has gone to date. Will I be happy a month from now? Time will tell

In comment 12294797 Headhunter said:

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with the one of the worst records in baseball and draft high for years. Yes or No?

How many times do I have to post it? Been saying it for years. My plan was to break it down and part way with Wright b/c he would be old by the time the kids, if any, developed. They were going to finish the season with awful records regardless if he was here or not. Like the Knicks, who cares about a few meaningless wins? It could cost you ton down the road and it has.

In comment 12294835 Headhunter said:

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I don't look at trends or try to project what will happen, I looked at the standings today and am happy where the season has gone to date. Will I be happy a month from now? Time will tell

At the beginning of the season if I was told we would lose DW and TDA to injures plus lose our closer and Wheeler and yet be tied for 1st at this point I would have been very happy.

I am more than content to allow Sandy time to best build around this young pitching staff. You only get the one chance to do it right so they are better of having the patience to do so. I don't expect them to win it all this season and I hope they don't make any trades based on that line of thinking. They had better not run out of patience when then end goal is finally getting within their grasp.

Thor looks legit, Harvey is Harvey, deGrom needs to build on his last outing, Wheeler can go either way after rehab and Matz is at his level dominating, but it is not the Major's. Familia is money and Robles looks to be coming on. I like what Blevins showed as a Loogy. Fix the middle infield defense without giving up anyone I listed and I'll take my chances

defensive OF, Cuddyer is gonig to need to hit a bit better than average to not only justify his contract and the 1st round pick that we gave up, but to justify his starting lineup spot.

It might be hard to upgrade at SS without giving up one of our young studs, but if Cuddyer looks cooked 4-6 weeks from now, I think upgrading at corner OF is something we will/should look into.

clarify, Cuddyer may in fact heat up. Odds are he will just based on his track record, I'm merely stating based on his numbers, numbers wise there isn't much to point to and say "well he's been unlucky" or "this will certainly even out".

there is not 1 contract that is putting a stranglehold on their payroll. They are committed to no one other than Wright after 2017. If they had to eat either Grandson or Cuddyer next year, they could

has a comparable impact the next season or two for a baseball team as it is with an NBA team.

The Knicks situation is an awful analogy.

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think the Mets are both in excellent shape AND made a dumb move signing Cuddyer (and I've been consistent with that). Even if Cuddyer were hitting "better" I think he was the wrong player to cough up a reasonably high 1st round pick for. But too late to worry about that now. I really hope they are proactive in looking to improve the team.

hopefully they get somewhat od a ROI on them, but I don't believe if they feel that an opportunity to get better exists without breaking up their strength which is young controllable pitching that they wouldn't pull the trigger

I am hopeful they will be more aggressive looking to improve than they've been at any previous time during this regime. They have something to play for and they have a lot $ that can come off the books pretty easily in the near future (Niese, Gee, Murphy, Parnell).

I get that this team will not be passive about living with non producers like Grandson, Cuddyer, Murphy, Flores. Anderson is a Marine & Ivy Leaguer who has discipline & brains and will not sit idlly while his plan dies on the vine due to a few bad signings

just hate this fan excuse of "I'm not trying Thor or Matz!". Who says the only way to improve the team is deal one of them?

Cuddyer doesn't heat up they really need to move him to a platoon with Granderson and add another OF.

doable and not unreasonable and it won't cause an arm and a leg to do

that can be had for Plawecki & Montero or Fulmer. Not looking for a superstar, a Pence type would do

give them a chance to compete should injuries happen. They 100% have been snake bit BUT let's be fair... Wright and TDA have been fragile in recent years, Cuddyer and Granderson are old and Lagares is fragile, the bench is not strong. please give them some help before the deadline. I'm not asking for Stanton.

In comment 12294889 steve in ky said:

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has a comparable impact the next season or two for a baseball team as it is with an NBA team. The Knicks situation is an awful analogy.

Being he shot down the Astros which is a perfect comparison I tried the Knicks. Keeping David Wright and not breaking the whole thing down cost the Mets valuable talent for meaningless wins. That's a fact.

will never know the truth but the story is that Sandy was prepared to move on from Wright but Jeff Wilpon stepped in.

In comment 12294929 Headhunter said:

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I get that this team will not be passive about living with non producers like Grandson, Cuddyer, Murphy, Flores. Anderson is a Marine & Ivy Leaguer who has discipline & brains and will not sit idlly while his plan dies on the vine due to a few bad signings

lol - you actually read his book? He won't be passive? He just gave up a #1 pick for old Cuddyer and has noodle arm Granderson in RF. Murphy still doesn't understand 2nd base better than a little leaguer and it was demonstrated again last night while Flores kicks the ball around the infield.

He's not going to sit huh? Cuddyer and Grandy aren't moving anywhere, who has any idea what he's doing with Murphy while Flores can't move to 3rd b/c of Wright might return someday. Passive is all SA is and you don't need an IVY League education to realize that or read that comical book about a guy who didn't build anything yet is entitled "Maverick".

I like the idea of a platoon between Cudyyer and Granderson. You have a better option off the bench than the Kirk's Ceciliani's MDD's give us and they won't have to give up a ton.

Get Gomez for Montero/Herrera and this is a contending lineup.

Gomez
Murphy
Wright
Duda
TdA
Grandy/Cuddy
Flores
Lagares

Nobody is going to trade for him.

sense

I'm sure they'll part ways with a 29 yr old All-star for a pitcher under shoulder observation and 2nd base prospect with a broken finger.

Makes sense to some.

Nelson Cruz in Left Field , oh well

In comment 12294974 DanMetroMan said:

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will never know the truth but the story is that Sandy was prepared to move on from Wright but Jeff Wilpon stepped in.

Well, he signed a fairly team friendly deal. That's not very Jeff like, is it?