Why $55 million in cap space in 2016 can disappear in a hurry depending on Eli, JPP, and Prince...
"The New York Giants have a large investment in just a handful of players, ranking No. 4 overall in salary cap space devoted to the top-five players on the team..."
"In general, the team has been committed to filling out the roster with veteran players on affordable deals rather than taking chances on younger players. In the offseason, they reworked the contracts of Jon Beason and Geoff Schwartz, who were both injured in 2014, rather than releasing them. The team overpaid for players such as Dwayne Harris and Shane Vereen to ensure they will have more veteran bodies on the field in 2015. This strategy usually keeps the Giants close to the cap limit most seasons, and with just $7 million in offseason cap space, they will likely be near the limit this year as well..."
"Unlike some other teams in the NFL, the Giants have not invested in creating “super units” of players, where the salary at one position dominates their salary cap. Outside of the quarterback position, there is not one group of players that ranks overall in the top-seven across the NFL..."
"The Giants currently project to have more than $55 million in cap space in 2016, but with those players seeking new contracts [Eli, JPP, Prince], that money can vanish in a hurry if the team is not careful. If the team does decide to go in a different, long-term direction with either Manning or Pierre-Paul, then this is likely the last time they will approach a season with numerous veteran players and instead begin rebuilding with youth."
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Eli.
JPP.
Prince.
Randle.
Ellis.
Eli.
JPP.
Prince.
Randle.
Ellis.
Don't see how we can sign them all.
He meant in terms of cap space
OBJ and RR on rookie contracts and all
It takes a special brand of incompetance for a team to get into true cap hell or even just be significantly impaired these days. The Giants may have other problems, but they don't have that, thankfully.
It takes a special brand of incompetance for a team to get into true cap hell or even just be significantly impaired these days. The Giants may have other problems, but they don't have that, thankfully.
I would agree and have maintained that for years.."Yeah, but what about their depth, they can't sign anyone." Yeah, Dallas, the "pay the piper down the road cap hellers" were one call away from the NFC championship game..
As you said, unless there's uner incompetence going on, cap hell, imo, is a virtual myth..
As a result the Giants are forced to fill these holes in free agency. This is very expensive as the Giants are overpaying for marginal players.
This plan cannot sustain itself and eventually the Giants will be forced into letting star players go.
I was a Reese supporter but I fear that the Giants have become a perennial 6-10 team. The Giants have squandered some Eli's best years and will now be in CAP purgatory.
Note those who think it dropped without touching a player or still don't look at the cap as a budget past 1.5 years.
but we're not rolling in the dough, either.
ABC JonC - if you having trouble with basic math just ask away. Prove you understand a budget b/c you haven't demonstrated you can think past a year. Are you perplexed at how Dallas does it? How the Giants can do it? Prove you're more than a knee jerk to any article written by a fella who doesn't understand the cap either.
I've posted my breakdown on the cap previously, you must have missed it. fkap agreed with my framework, that's good enough for me on matters related to mapping out the cap with reasonable amateur accuracy.
Again, talking about salary, not talent.
Tuck was on his rookie deal. Alford was a rookie. Osi hadn't been paid till after 07.
Good Lord.
I don't do mock drafts, either. Carry on.
I've never ..at least to what I've seen..JonC ever do a mock draft on here.lol
Eli is the big money investment, who is he really and age questions. If the team fails to improve this year do you invest in a 35 year old QB who will cost over 20 mil on a rebuilding team? He is the guy you dealt for and has taken you to the top of the mountain twice however can he really do it again. It's a game of poker this is Eli season and chance to take it all or allow the team to move in a different direction or make him an offer he can refuse.
JPP is all about him he is the guy with all the cards in his hands will he go all in or continue to tease us? Today he is worth somewhere between 9-14 mil depending on who you ask and what he has done, which is very far from what he can or should have done. JPP will be the guy who writes his own ticket in or out of NY by his production or lack of production. The real strange thing is that he does not seem to taking this chance or lack of commitment by the team seriously. Is he just doing the I will let my play on the field do the talking or is he really just happy with 13+ mil and knows he will get a big payday somewhere next year.
25-30 AFTER core is retained? a darn good situation. It's reasonably attainable, but honestly, I think once the core is set, you're talking a little lower.
What scares me is that it now appears we'll have Prince, Eli, JPP all hitting the second/third year in 2017, 2018, plus probably some more FA from next year. first year is almost always doable. second year is when the cap hit kicks in. (I know you know this, saying it for the sake of those that look at yearly averages). I was hoping, and still am, that if we're looking retain all three, we could have gotten at least one done this year, preferably Prince or JPP (don't think it makes any sense to redo Eli this year).
We should be looking to spend our money on resigning our good picks, but we're spending too much of our cap hit signing Vereen's to do part time RB duties because our drafting approach hasn't gotten it done.