Kevin Boothe, name the quality depth O-Linemen we used to have? Guy Whimper? Adam Koets? Jim Cordle?
How did Boothe fill in when called upon and how did the starters play the past few years? This team had so little depth that Diehl was playing two years beyond his retirement date. You can't see the difference? You don't think drafting more OL would have helped? I mean, it's only the QB to protect and culprit one as to why the team has been disaster according to just about everybody.
and, whatever his faults, Whimper filled in nicely in the 2007 playoff
Hmmm
Sarasota-Phil : 4:00 pm : link : reply
Now if JR had only burned a 7th round pick on a certain former LSU OT......
The bottom line is that this stuff happens year in and year out, a simple 7th round pick could have provided amazing insurance. So frustrating.
But where it happens changes. Using the logic above, we probably should have taken a flyer on a DB or WR since we've had those positions in a MASH camp often.
The bottom line is that injuries are a crap shoot - but a crap shoot with tough results because over the past 25 years, the amount of injuries a team has is the top indicator of how they will perform.
No matter what you think of them now, nobody was killing Reese & Co. for drafting James Brewer or Brandon Mosley. They were considered very good value picks and they were both expected to contribute. The fact that they haven't is another story entirely.
You can use a 2nd Round pick on an OT and end up with Charles Brown. You can use a 5th Round pick on an OG and end up with Carl Nicks. It's all a crapshoot.
No matter what you think of them now, nobody was killing Reese & Co. for drafting James Brewer or Brandon Mosley. They were considered very good value picks and they were both expected to contribute.
Speak for yourself. I wanted Marcus Cannon (who did have a cancer bout) rather than a soft Brewer and wanted Osemele rather than David Wilson. Never heard of Mosley.
This is BBI where being evaluated means out 6 months
In comment 12294719 Hades07 said:
[quote] Son, we live in a world that has QBs, and those QBs have to be guarded by men with buns. Who's gonna do it? You? You, Lt. Richburg?
I have a greater responsibility than you could possibly fathom. You weep for Beatty, and you curse the weight room. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know. That Beatty's injury, while tragic, probably saved Eli.
And Jerry's existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, saves Eli. You don't want the truth because deep down in places you don't talk about at parties, you want Jerry on that line, you need Jerry on that line.
We use words like holding, sack, loyalty. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent blocking something. You use them as a punchline.
I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very entertainment that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it.
I would rather you just said thank you, and went on your way, Otherwise, I suggest you pick up a clipboard, and stand on the sideline. Either way, I don't give a damn what you think you are entitled to. [/qu
Verrrry interesting! Why take this criticism so personally?
Are you a member of the NY Giants Strength and Conditioning
group that has been taking so much abuse on
BBI over the last few years?
but thankfully time is somewhat on our side. I'd sign Boothe, maybe even someone like Barksdale or Jake Long. Just bring in bodies. Beatty will almost certainly be a contender for IR-designee to return, but in the interim you need to fill in competent players wherever you can.
Told ya we were one injury away from a weak oline and some said blah blah blah blah. So here we go again. I'm going to pray we can pick up a Tackle worth his weight before the season starts but I'm really not expecting any teams to cut the goods ones.
RE: Told ya we needed more than one upgrade to the OL
Told ya we were one injury away from a weak oline and some said blah blah blah blah. So here we go again. I'm going to pray we can pick up a Tackle worth his weight before the season starts but I'm really not expecting any teams to cut the goods ones.
Any team that loses their starting LT is going to have a problem. You aren't exactly breaking new ground with this prediction. Every team is always one injury to a key player away.
And you don't just take a trip to the Starting Left Tackle store. They simply aren't readily available. Nobody has starting quality left tackles on standby in case of injury, and nor can a draft pick be expected to handle that responsibility either. Better prospects than Ereck Flowers or La'el Collins have been drafted and not started at Left Tackle simply because it's just that difficult to do.
Jake Matthews had to do it last year because of injury and he struggled mightily, and that's just one of many examples.
RE: Told ya we needed more than one upgrade to the OL
Told ya we were one injury away from a weak oline and some said blah blah blah blah. So here we go again.
Some claimed we didn't need any. I've been hoping for two of our top three picks were the OL for two years straight while wanted Osemele, Marcus Cannon and a few others for years.
I just don't understand this front office banking on so few bodies. Look at the Pats. Their OL is pretty solid yet they drafted four offensive linemen over the past two years (Huge Tre Jackson and powerful Shaq Mason this past draft and last year went with Brian Stork (who started) and huge Cameron Flemming).
The Giants just continue leaving themselves with so few options in the event of an injury.
Kevin Boothe, name the quality depth O-Linemen we used to have? Guy Whimper? Adam Koets? Jim Cordle?
How did Boothe fill in when called upon and how did the starters play the past few years? This team had so little depth that Diehl was playing two years beyond his retirement date. You can't see the difference? You don't think drafting more OL would have helped? I mean, it's only the QB to protect and culprit one as to why the team has been disaster according to just about everybody.
I would have preferred another offensive lineman by Round 3 being they didn't get two in the first three rounds last year.
I think the talent is just too thin and the risk for injury is too great.
Sarasota-Phil : 4:00 pm : link : reply
Now if JR had only burned a 7th round pick on a certain former LSU OT......
The bottom line is that this stuff happens year in and year out, a simple 7th round pick could have provided amazing insurance. So frustrating.
But where it happens changes. Using the logic above, we probably should have taken a flyer on a DB or WR since we've had those positions in a MASH camp often.
The bottom line is that injuries are a crap shoot - but a crap shoot with tough results because over the past 25 years, the amount of injuries a team has is the top indicator of how they will perform.
....I don't get invited to funerals since the ventriloquist thing....I thought I'd knock em dead with that
No matter what you think of them now, nobody was killing Reese & Co. for drafting James Brewer or Brandon Mosley. They were considered very good value picks and they were both expected to contribute. The fact that they haven't is another story entirely.
You can use a 2nd Round pick on an OT and end up with Charles Brown. You can use a 5th Round pick on an OG and end up with Carl Nicks. It's all a crapshoot.
Besides Kevin Boothe, name the quality depth O-Linemen we used to have? Guy Whimper? Adam Koets? Jim Cordle?
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No matter what you think of them now, nobody was killing Reese & Co. for drafting James Brewer or Brandon Mosley. They were considered very good value picks and they were both expected to contribute.
Speak for yourself. I wanted Marcus Cannon (who did have a cancer bout) rather than a soft Brewer and wanted Osemele rather than David Wilson. Never heard of Mosley.
Why don't we wait and see before we go completely accusatory...
I always love the critics who act as if there's no such thing as a cap. They want Hall of famers starting and All pros as back-ups.
[quote] Son, we live in a world that has QBs, and those QBs have to be guarded by men with buns. Who's gonna do it? You? You, Lt. Richburg?
I have a greater responsibility than you could possibly fathom. You weep for Beatty, and you curse the weight room. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know. That Beatty's injury, while tragic, probably saved Eli.
And Jerry's existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, saves Eli. You don't want the truth because deep down in places you don't talk about at parties, you want Jerry on that line, you need Jerry on that line.
We use words like holding, sack, loyalty. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent blocking something. You use them as a punchline.
I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very entertainment that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it.
I would rather you just said thank you, and went on your way, Otherwise, I suggest you pick up a clipboard, and stand on the sideline. Either way, I don't give a damn what you think you are entitled to. [/qu
Verrrry interesting! Why take this criticism so personally?
Are you a member of the NY Giants Strength and Conditioning
group that has been taking so much abuse on
BBI over the last few years?
Newhouse remains a backup. You heard it here first.
Wonder how BBI would handle an off season injury to OBJ while snowboarding in Utah?
Told ya we were one injury away from a weak oline and some said blah blah blah blah. So here we go again. I'm going to pray we can pick up a Tackle worth his weight before the season starts but I'm really not expecting any teams to cut the goods ones.
Told ya we were one injury away from a weak oline and some said blah blah blah blah. So here we go again. I'm going to pray we can pick up a Tackle worth his weight before the season starts but I'm really not expecting any teams to cut the goods ones.
Any team that loses their starting LT is going to have a problem. You aren't exactly breaking new ground with this prediction. Every team is always one injury to a key player away.
And you don't just take a trip to the Starting Left Tackle store. They simply aren't readily available. Nobody has starting quality left tackles on standby in case of injury, and nor can a draft pick be expected to handle that responsibility either. Better prospects than Ereck Flowers or La'el Collins have been drafted and not started at Left Tackle simply because it's just that difficult to do.
Jake Matthews had to do it last year because of injury and he struggled mightily, and that's just one of many examples.
Told ya we were one injury away from a weak oline and some said blah blah blah blah. So here we go again.
Some claimed we didn't need any. I've been hoping for two of our top three picks were the OL for two years straight while wanted Osemele, Marcus Cannon and a few others for years.
I just don't understand this front office banking on so few bodies. Look at the Pats. Their OL is pretty solid yet they drafted four offensive linemen over the past two years (Huge Tre Jackson and powerful Shaq Mason this past draft and last year went with Brian Stork (who started) and huge Cameron Flemming).
The Giants just continue leaving themselves with so few options in the event of an injury.
It is pure 20/20. Frankly, as much as the injury sucks, I'd rather have it on the OL than other positions where we are thin.
It is pure 20/20. Frankly, as much as the injury sucks, I'd rather have it on the OL than other positions where we are thin.
No, no, it's Nicky..Micky's the good guy..:)
Really superb, artful comment. Thanks, Hades07!