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NFT: Mets Game 3

CMicks3110 : 5/20/2015 5:08 pm
Cardinals
1. Kolten Wong (L) 2B
2. Matt Carpenter (L) 3B
3. Matt Holliday (R) LF
4. Matt Adams (L) 1B
5.Jhonny Peralta (R) SS
6.Yadier Molina (R) C
7. Jason Heyward (L) RF
8. Randal Grichuk (R) CF
9. Carlos Martinez (R) P

Mets
1. Curtis Granderson (L) RF
2. Eric Campbell (R) 3B
3. Lucas Duda (L) 1B
4. Michael Cuddyer (R) LF
5. Daniel Murphy (L) 2B
6. Wilmer Flores (R) SS
7. Juan Lagares (R) CF
8. Kevin Plawecki (R) C
9. Bartolo Colon (R) P
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Teams out of contention and players i'd target/available  
CMicks3110 : 5/20/2015 5:35 pm : link
Milwaukee
OF-Ryan Braun
OF-Carlos Gomez
OF-Gerardo Parra
SS-Jean Segura
RP-Jeremy Jeffress
RP-Michael Blazek
RP-Will Smith
SP-Tyler Thornberg
RP-Francisco Rodriguez

Colorado
SS-Troy Tulowitski
OF-Charlie Blackman
OF-Corey Dickerson
RP-John Axford
RP-Adam Ottavino

Cincinnati
SS-Zack Cozart
OF-Marlon Byrd
RP-Aroldis Chapman
RP-Tony Cingrani

Arizona
OF-David Peralta
OF-Ender Inciarte

Dodgers
IF-Alex Guerruo
IF-Justin Turner
OF-Scott Van Slyke

Oakland
SP-Scott Kazmir
IF-Ben Zobrist
OF-Josh Reddick
RP-Tyler Clippard

Texas
OF-Shin Soo-Choo (with Texas eating cash)
RP-Shawn Tolleson
OF-Leonys MartIN

Cleveland
2B-Jason Kipnis
OF-Michael Brantley
RP-Nick Hardigone

Tornoto
SS-Jose Reyes
RP-Roberto Osuna
OF-Jose Bautista

Baltimore
UT-Travis Snider
Justin Turner???  
spike : 5/20/2015 5:59 pm : link
Dodgers are never out of it
....  
MyNameIsMyName : 5/20/2015 7:20 pm : link
Mets are 1-11 in the past 12 games when an underdog. Doesn't bode well for today
We are  
spike : 5/20/2015 7:22 pm : link
just hoping for a split for this series.

The Nats are red hot, however.
Just turned the game on and it looks like one of those nights Colon  
Eric on Li : 5/20/2015 7:49 pm : link
will be lucky to survive. Line drives getting smoked left and right.
It will take a long single to get Colon in  
NewBlue : 5/20/2015 7:59 pm : link
...
That was a bad one  
Eric on Li : 5/20/2015 8:03 pm : link
No reason to not be tagging there and Cuddyer gets robbed. Need Murphy to pick it up.
Really hard to watch these guys  
NewBlue : 5/20/2015 8:06 pm : link
Mental mistakes, fielding errors, lack of clutch hitting, it really is getting to be ugly
RE: Really hard to watch these guys  
spike : 5/20/2015 8:09 pm : link
In comment 12295211 NewBlue said:
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Mental mistakes, fielding errors, lack of clutch hitting, it really is getting to be ugly


sign of poor coaching?
I have a hard time watching  
NewBlue : 5/20/2015 8:13 pm : link
Knowing that a 1 or 2 run deficit means it's over.
Watching Harvey pitch and sensing he can't give up a run...geez
Colon is lucky he has only allowed 2 runs tonight but frankly it's over
I miss Lageres' amazing arm  
PhiPsi125 : 5/20/2015 8:23 pm : link
Not quite a deadly weapon anymore. And it's very noticeable.
Yeah they just don't give themselves a lot of room for error  
Eric on Li : 5/20/2015 8:24 pm : link
Colon is going to have games like this where he just gets hit hard. I could tell from the first 2 batters even though he ended up not letting either one score. And the offense is still stuck in the same quicksand it's been in for the past few years where they get opportunities, they blow them with mistakes or bad ABs, and you just know the story is going to end. If the offense could even get Colon 1 or 2 runs you'd at least feel like there's a chance.
When Colon doesn't have it, it's like batting practice  
Eric on Li : 5/20/2015 8:26 pm : link
Maybe that should be Gee's role? On days when Colon doesn't have it, pull him after the first inning and put in Gee.
Two games in a row  
Metnut : 5/20/2015 8:26 pm : link
where colon doesn't even give us a chance to win. At his age, not sure he'll gain strength as the season goes on. I hope niese/colon don't keep matz out of the rotation too much longer.
Well, I guess we get to continue to watch opposing  
PhiPsi125 : 5/20/2015 8:27 pm : link
Teams have absolutely no trouble hitting HRs at CitiField. Time to bring the fences in...again?
Colon's era  
Metnut : 5/20/2015 8:30 pm : link
at 4.55 for the season now.
We have been losers for so long  
NewBlue : 5/20/2015 8:33 pm : link
There is still a cloud over this team...it seems like Harvey is the only thing to watch, with due respect to deGrom.....just don't want to go and pay money to watch these clowns....Does anyone really think that when Wright and TDA come back anything changes
RE: Colon's era  
Rflairr : 5/20/2015 8:34 pm : link
In comment 12295270 Metnut said:
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at 4.55 for the season now.


He's getting pounded every time out there now
I am so fucking tired of watching these players watch  
PhiPsi125 : 5/20/2015 8:35 pm : link
good pitches go by only to swing at garbage. Every Fucking Game. They are always behind in the count and they are the least aggressive team I have ever seen.

Maybe this long shitty streak will finally get rid of terry but probably not. They will just give him the excuse of injuries, as usual.
Imagine you went to Citifield  
NewBlue : 5/20/2015 8:41 pm : link
Last night or tonight?
We can turn the channel but for me I would be extremely pissed
Shouldve traded Colon  
spike : 5/20/2015 8:43 pm : link
When he was 6-0
I doubt  
spike : 5/20/2015 8:45 pm : link
This team has the offense to be contending in September
RE: I doubt  
PhiPsi125 : 5/20/2015 8:48 pm : link
In comment 12295329 spike said:
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This team has the offense to be contending in September


Doubt? Lol, not even close. I'm sure they won't even be in second place at the Allstar break.
Matz pitching tonight  
Tanker20 : 5/20/2015 8:51 pm : link
10pm. Hopefully his last or second to last start in the minors. Las Vegas has been consistently more enjoyable to watch than the Mets. If only we still had Ceciliani, Hererra, Cambell, and Monell still in the lineup!
By aug  
spike : 5/20/2015 8:52 pm : link
They should just start montero and matz for those last two rotation spots
Wonderful  
NewBlue : 5/20/2015 8:56 pm : link
We will get an exciting young promising pitcher every night before the end of the year, and we still can't win because we don't hit, and frankly if you look at the bats in Vegas and Bingo, I don't know who will solve this issue.
It's pointless to look at the offense in Vegas anyway  
PhiPsi125 : 5/20/2015 8:58 pm : link
What a waste to have a minor league club there.
Point being  
NewBlue : 5/20/2015 9:04 pm : link
Where is our next bat coming from?
Who will replace these 2 old men with zero power playing our outfield corners?

Anyone on the horizon?????
RE: Point being  
spike : 5/20/2015 9:05 pm : link
In comment 12295364 NewBlue said:
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Where is our next bat coming from?
Who will replace these 2 old men with zero power playing our outfield corners?

Anyone on the horizon?????


Gotta go to Binghamton. Conforto is the savior
spike  
NewBlue : 5/20/2015 9:09 pm : link
That's 2 years from now right?
these games against  
Rflairr : 5/20/2015 9:18 pm : link
teams like the Cubs and the Cards. The Mets look almost overmatched.
RE: these games against  
steve in ky : 5/20/2015 9:21 pm : link
In comment 12295383 Rflairr said:
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teams like the Cubs and the Cards. The Mets look almost overmatched.


When they don't get the pitching the Mets aren't very good. They live and die with their starting pitching, if they get a good outing they are in almost every game if they don't they are hard pressed to win the game.
wow  
feelflows : 5/20/2015 9:24 pm : link
I turned it off when Murphy lunged at a pitch with the bases loaded.. very glad I did.
We are a bad team  
NewBlue : 5/20/2015 9:25 pm : link
We will have a stretch where we beat the Dodgers or Cards 5 out of 6, and than lose to the D-Backs 4 in a row......there is something missing there, coach? Talent? Karma? Ownership?

I don't know but whatever it is I have seen this movie far to often.

A team with character chips away, goes down, but with a fight,
it's 9 freakin 0 in the eighth inning...it's getting laughable again
Steve  
NewBlue : 5/20/2015 9:27 pm : link
If Colon pitched a no hitter tonight, he still would not be winning.......it is not just some crap outings by Colon & Niese..........a team that can't hit is very hard to watch
is this lineup worse then our Summer'09 one?  
Tanker20 : 5/20/2015 9:32 pm : link
I vaguely remember that lineup being beyond terrible so I went and checked one box score from then..this was actually our lineup..

Pagain
Castillo
Wright
Francoeur
Tatis
Murphy
Santos
A. Hernandez (Short stop that I dont remember?)
Pelfrey

and I think David Wright got hurt shortly after this game.
Damn Nats  
Rflairr : 5/20/2015 9:57 pm : link
all the way up to first. Unreal.
RE: is this lineup worse then our Summer'09 one?  
spike : 5/20/2015 10:13 pm : link
In comment 12295451 Tanker20 said:
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I vaguely remember that lineup being beyond terrible so I went and checked one box score from then..this was actually our lineup..

Pagain
Castillo
Wright
Francoeur
Tatis
Murphy
Santos
A. Hernandez (Short stop that I dont remember?)
Pelfrey

and I think David Wright got hurt shortly after this game.


Anderson Hernandez IF
not always a SS - ( New Window )
Offense  
Giants2012 : 5/20/2015 10:18 pm : link
23rd in runs scored (and that's with 15 the other day, without which they would be 29th)
28th in OPS
26th in OBP
22nd in HRs
26th in BA

RE: Offense  
spike : 5/20/2015 10:19 pm : link
In comment 12295623 Giants2012 said:
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23rd in runs scored (and that's with 15 the other day, without which they would be 29th)
28th in OPS
26th in OBP
22nd in HRs
26th in BA

So how long of a leash does hitting coach Kevin Long have?
RE: RE: Offense  
Giants2012 : 5/20/2015 10:22 pm : link
In comment 12295624 spike said:
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In comment 12295623 Giants2012 said:


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23rd in runs scored (and that's with 15 the other day, without which they would be 29th)
28th in OPS
26th in OBP
22nd in HRs
26th in BA



So how long of a leash does hitting coach Kevin Long have?


The stats don't tell the whole story but they say a lot. I certainly wouldn't blame the hitting coach as SA basically added Cuddyer to an otherwise inept offense from last season. Some just bought into hype and Spring Training scrimmages.
I still believe in this team  
Headhunter : 5/21/2015 6:30 am : link
I believe they will be better when 2 of their better hitters come back.if you don't believe in them go fuck yourselves you cunts and go root for the Yankees
RE: Offense  
Shecky : 5/21/2015 7:13 am : link
In comment 12295623 Giants2012 said:
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23rd in runs scored (and that's with 15 the other day, without which they would be 29th)
28th in OPS
26th in OBP
22nd in HRs
26th in BA


I hope Z meant bottom five O, not top five, when he touted the great offense this spring.
I love criticism  
Headhunter : 5/21/2015 7:25 am : link
When it's constructive. You learn from it. The problem I have with what passes as criticism by some here is "I told you so" "I am right, you are wrong" you know the generic crap you get on Mets.com. I think we should have multiple threads, certainly there is enough bandwidth to support 2 gameday threads. I bet that if we had separate threads everyone would be happy. The cheerleaders can interact with other cheerleaders and the others can interact with themselves. Fair enough?
So when some questioned the offense  
Giants2012 : 5/21/2015 7:46 am : link
and were told they were wrong, clueless, morons, not Mets fans, trolls, etc that was constructive and now you don't want to hear they were correct?
RE: I love criticism  
PhiPsi125 : 5/21/2015 8:10 am : link
In comment 12295924 Headhunter said:
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When it's constructive. You learn from it.

Sounds fair

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if you don't believe in them go fuck yourselves you cunts and go root for the Yankees

Sounds like you are a hypocrite. You seriously have mental issues.
Did I hit too close to home  
Headhunter : 5/21/2015 8:16 am : link
Frat boy? If I did and you have an issue with me stay off my threads and I'll stay off of yours. But you won't be able to do that and you know it
Hit too close to home? Nah, you are not nearly that important  
PhiPsi125 : 5/21/2015 8:23 am : link
where I would give a shit what you say. I just wanted to point out to everyone...again...how full of shit you are. You literally hand over your shittiness on a silver platter.

Frat boy, good one. Original too.
So when I start threads  
Headhunter : 5/21/2015 8:26 am : link
you are not going to show up? I promise not to show up on threads with you Giants2012 NewBlue. Deal?
RE: So when I start threads  
PhiPsi125 : 5/21/2015 8:28 am : link
In comment 12295969 Headhunter said:
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you are not going to show up? I promise not to show up on threads with you Giants2012 NewBlue. Deal?


I'll show up where ever I want. Lol, who you do you think you are. I swear, you claim to be an elder adult yet you have the mental maturity of an 8 year old girl.

Why don't you just take your ball and go home.
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