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If Brett Jones is legitimate at center..

Tony-in-Wichita : 5/21/2015 5:58 pm
Paired with Beatty being hurt..

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Flowers - Richburg - Jones - Schwartz - Pugh


Thoughts?
No.  
drkenneth : 5/21/2015 5:59 pm : link
Richburg is the C.
If anything I'd hope Jones  
bradshaw44 : 5/21/2015 6:01 pm : link
Could work at guard. We drafted Richburg to be center.
And frankly  
giantgiantfan : 5/21/2015 6:01 pm : link
I believe Pugh might be the better LT today.
no  
mirwin : 5/21/2015 6:07 pm : link
he's not going to be ready by September and i don't want either of them at G
he isn't going to be the next coming of Mel Hein. He needs time to adjust to the american game plus he's ultimately a project he could just end up like majority of UDFA's and get cut. Probably wont though.Hope he does well.
Love the pronouncements around here  
K-Gun? Pop-Gun : 5/21/2015 6:10 pm : link
without seeing one snap of live play.

Let's see it play out. There will be more injuries -some on the OL, even.
Richburg is the Center  
Steve in South Jersey : 5/21/2015 6:30 pm : link
can't keep him off of that position for another year. It would set him back.
RE: And frankly  
mrvax : 5/21/2015 6:33 pm : link
In comment 12297060 giantgiantfan said:
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I believe Pugh might be the better LT today.


I agree. Before this incident, I did not believe Flowers would play tackle this year period. He needs some work. I figured he'd start out at guard.

Some folks don't know it but Schwartz can play ROT. I'd expect him and Flowers to battle for it with Schwartz winning and Flowers to tackle.

I'm thinking Pugh-Flowers-Richburg-Jones/Jerry-Schwartz right now.

In fact, if Pugh plays well enough, it may be stupid to replace him with Beatty late in the season and f-up the line's cohesion.
No  
BillT : 5/21/2015 7:04 pm : link
Ricburgh at center . That's what he was drafted to be and as a 2nd rounder that's where he'll play. Some UDFA isn't going to take his spot. Jones and Jerry is the competition at G.

And Flowers isn't starting at LT as a rookie!! Come on! Pugh is a vet and was a LT in college. It's not rocket science.
RE: No  
Tony-in-Wichita : 5/21/2015 7:36 pm : link
In comment 12297114 BillT said:
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Ricburgh at center . That's what he was drafted to be and as a 2nd rounder that's where he'll play. Some UDFA isn't going to take his spot. Jones and Jerry is the competition at G.

And Flowers isn't starting at LT as a rookie!! Come on! Pugh is a vet and was a LT in college. It's not rocket science.


No.. It is obviously a science which you have down perfectly. Any other speculation that does not coincide with your conclusion is worthy of your patronizing comments.

Thank you sir
No...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/21/2015 7:39 pm : link
Brett Jones is not even a lock to make the team, let alone be a back-up yet.
RE: RE: No  
BillT : 5/21/2015 7:49 pm : link
In comment 12297135 Tony-in-Wichita said:
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In comment 12297114 BillT said:


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Ricburgh at center . That's what he was drafted to be and as a 2nd rounder that's where he'll play. Some UDFA isn't going to take his spot. Jones and Jerry is the competition at G.

And Flowers isn't starting at LT as a rookie!! Come on! Pugh is a vet and was a LT in college. It's not rocket science.



No.. It is obviously a science which you have down perfectly. Any other speculation that does not coincide with your conclusion is worthy of your patronizing comments.

Thank you sir


So sorry. Might I recommend a nice knitting website for you to visit. I heard they're very sensitive over there.
It will happen.  
Tony-in-Wichita : 5/21/2015 7:57 pm : link
It worked for me on a Madden season I created..

Sorry for the snappy remark.. I'll visit a few knitting sights and see if I fit in better..
RE: It will happen.  
BillT : 5/21/2015 8:01 pm : link
In comment 12297155 Tony-in-Wichita said:
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It worked for me on a Madden season I created..

Sorry for the snappy remark.. I'll visit a few knitting sights and see if I fit in better..


I was a bit snappy myself.
This line will morph  
Doomster : 5/21/2015 8:08 pm : link
many times between OTA's and the opening game....no sense arguing over who will start where.....just hope we have a line that can grow into something.....
My predict  
Jim Burt64 : 5/21/2015 8:38 pm : link
Flowers - TBD - Richburg - Schwartz - Pugh
TBD =  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 5/21/2015 8:45 pm : link
Bobby Hart
TBD  
Gmen703 : 5/21/2015 8:52 pm : link
John Jerry
Brett Jones is battling Dallas Reynolds for backup Center  
DavidinBMNY : 5/21/2015 8:53 pm : link
And swing guard. Reynolds missed block related to Eli getting hurt end of 2 seasons ago. And he's a full year older. I want Jones to win this battle.

Dammit, I messed that up  
Gmen703 : 5/21/2015 8:53 pm : link
TBD < > John Jerry
is John Jerry the best guard that will be available?  
Tony-in-Wichita : 5/21/2015 10:11 pm : link
Or do decent guards often become available after training camp?
RE: Brett Jones is battling Dallas Reynolds for backup Center  
Tony-in-Wichita : 5/21/2015 10:12 pm : link
In comment 12297190 DavidinBMNY said:
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And swing guard. Reynolds missed block related to Eli getting hurt end of 2 seasons ago. And he's a full year older. I want Jones to win this battle.


Good point. Quality depth is more realistic for Jones, I was a bit ahead of myself
RE: My predict  
Tony-in-Wichita : 5/21/2015 10:14 pm : link
In comment 12297179 Jim Burt64 said:
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Flowers - TBD - Richburg - Schwartz - Pugh


I too like Flowers at LT.

I understand how Pugh makes sense.. but I have extremely high hopes for Flowers. His attitude and power is left tackle material
Flowers lacks proper technique..  
Tony-in-Wichita : 5/21/2015 10:16 pm : link
Blind side of Eli...

I get it now.

It is not rocket science ...
Richburg will start at OC  
Torrag : 5/21/2015 10:39 pm : link
Jones has enough to worry about just acclimating to the league without worrying about making the calls. I just hope he or someone else can beat out Jerry because if they can't this line is going to have issues yet again.
This only came to mind after Beatty tore his pec.  
Tony-in-Wichita : 5/21/2015 10:47 pm : link
A pre mature scramble to fix a problem that I have no control over..

Richburg is the future Center for sure
Tony-in-Wichita  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/21/2015 10:56 pm : link
I'm not discounting Jones, but we really don't know much about him at all. He's even admitted he will have a big adjustment to the NFL game.

I just think it's better long-term for the Giants to put Richburg at his natural position - a position in McAdoo's system that makes the OL line calls too (Eli did this under Gilbride).
Pugh at LT  
SHO'NUFF : 5/21/2015 11:49 pm : link
scares me.
I don't want Richburg playing anywhere other than OC  
Matt M. : 5/22/2015 1:11 am : link
That is what he was drafted to play and did nothing special as a LG last year. If you are going to shift guys around, then let Jones see if he can play OG, or simply backup at OC. But, Richburg should be in the middle.
Wk 1 starters  
sameolgee-MEN : 5/22/2015 1:16 am : link
Pugh Jerry Richburg Schwartz Flowers
Center is Richburg's job to lose  
Beer Man : 5/22/2015 6:16 am : link
He was drafted to be the long term solution at C. He needs to play C and stay there unless his play says otherwise. There is nothing gained by delaying his development further.
The one position,  
Fred-in-Florida : 5/22/2015 7:56 am : link
on the already questionable line, that was set now makes it (the O-Line) even weaker than before.


Too many question marks.
Can Richburg be a starting center. Basically only one year experience and at a different position. He's plugged in there so let's hope he can do the job.
Schwartz coming off basically a season long injury. I did like they way he played (on the right side) in that brief appearance than he did in the exhibition games at Left Guard.Leave him at right guard he's better than Jerry.

Do you leave Pugh at RT or move him to LT. He played LT in college and may be better suited for the LT position or leave him at RT and put Flowers at LT. The one positive to leaving him at RT is he's experience there so no learning curve. Wherever Flowers goes its going to a learning experience. The one thing these are your starting tackles.
I like moving Pugh and having Flowers on the Right. Pugh has a couple of years experience and can and will work hard at adapting. If you put Flowers at LT not only will he be raw but who's at LG? That's two positions on the same (blind) side that's new. If it turns out to be Hart then that's two rookies on the same side. I've liked the speculation of having Flowers and Schwartz as maulers on the Right.

That leaves the LG position open. Then we have Hart, Jones, Jerry, Mosley. Somebody step up!
I'm very interested in reading all the proclamations with  
Ira : 5/22/2015 8:09 am : link
absolute certainty that Jones can or cannot compete for a starting job. The truth is we just don't know. On the one hand it's true that the CFL where he played isn't close to level of competition that he'll face in the NFL. But it''s also true that he flat out dominated at that level.

So we'll see. He'll find his level at training camp and during pre-season. And when he does, there will be a few people here who will by saying 'I told you so.' It just remains to be seen, which ones.
No. Richburg is a C and was drafted high to play there. And he  
Victor in CT : 5/22/2015 8:29 am : link
is not a very good guard.
RE: I'm very interested in reading all the proclamations with  
Tony-in-Wichita : 5/22/2015 9:08 am : link
In comment 12297329 Ira said:
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absolute certainty that Jones can or cannot compete for a starting job. The truth is we just don't know. On the one hand it's true that the CFL where he played isn't close to level of competition that he'll face in the NFL. But it''s also true that he flat out dominated at that level.

So we'll see. He'll find his level at training camp and during pre-season. And when he does, there will be a few people here who will by saying 'I told you so.' It just remains to be seen, which ones.


Good points.

I guess I hope he's legitimate so they avoid putting John Jerry on the field. I understand how the unity of Richburg at center is important, but they just lost they're starting Left Tackle.

Things are not ideal anymore
Jones,  
oldog : 5/22/2015 10:19 am : link
is a lock.
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